Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:42:17 -0400 Loui Chang wrote: > On Sat 22 Sep 2012 15:06 +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote: > > Am 22.09.2012 10:07, schrieb Heiko Baums: > > > Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:09:02 +0900 > > > schrieb Zhengyu Xu : > > > > > >> After updating systemd to 191-1 in testing repo, I had follo

Re: [arch-general] Fonts larger after suspend

2012-09-22 Thread Ashim Acharya
Try this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Setting_DPI_manually

[arch-general] Fonts larger after suspend

2012-09-22 Thread Michael Nawrocki
I'm using the font: Droid Sans size 10 for my default font, set in ~/.gtkrc-2.0. I'm using DWM as my window manager, so nothing fancy there. Sometimes, after I wake my computer from suspend, the font size in use by my windows gets larger, I'd say by a point or two. This started happening around whe

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Loui Chang
On Sat 22 Sep 2012 15:06 +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 22.09.2012 10:07, schrieb Heiko Baums: > > Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:09:02 +0900 > > schrieb Zhengyu Xu : > > > >> After updating systemd to 191-1 in testing repo, I had following > >> messages during booting and the process was stuck (crashe

Re: [arch-general] Switching back from nouveau doesn't work - Was: Proprietary nvidia driver for different kernels

2012-09-22 Thread Joakim Hernberg
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:41:32 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I set up CPU frequency scaling as needed and run the Jack MIDI latency > tests again. I suspect the nouveau driver still is broken [1]. There > are still Xruns and there's an absurd high peak. At this moment in time I'll skip the rest of y

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > On 22 September 2012 16:20, Heiko Baums wrote: > > > And, btw., instead of threatening and banning people with different > > > opinions you rather should take their criticisms serious and take > > > them as an incentive to improve Arch Linux and to make it better > > > instead of worse. > >

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Bjoern Franke
Am Samstag, den 22.09.2012, 15:41 +0100 schrieb P .NIKOLIC: > > Please explain just who has trolled .. i saw an opinion about systemd > thats about all .. > > Pete Don't troll with such a question ;) -- xmpp: b...@schafweide.org bjo.nord-west.org | nord-west.org | freifunk-ol.de

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:22:06 +0200 Alexandre Ferrando wrote: > On 22 September 2012 16:20, Heiko Baums wrote: > > And, btw., instead of threatening and banning people with different > > opinions you rather should take their criticisms serious and take > > them as an incentive to improve Arch Lin

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Alexandre Ferrando
On 22 September 2012 16:20, Heiko Baums wrote: > And, btw., instead of threatening and banning people with different > opinions you rather should take their criticisms serious and take them > as an incentive to improve Arch Linux and to make it better instead of > worse. > > Heiko They're not goi

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:06:28 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > After the recent outbreaks, we have been discussing banning people > from arch-general. At the time, the people we talked about had calmed > down and everything went back to normal, so there was no point in > going forward with it. Howe

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:06:28 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > After the recent outbreaks, we have been discussing banning people > from arch-general. At the time, the people we talked about had calmed > down and everything went back to normal, so there was no point in > going forward with it. Howe

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 22.09.2012 10:07, schrieb Heiko Baums: > Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:09:02 +0900 > schrieb Zhengyu Xu : > >> After updating systemd to 191-1 in testing repo, I had following >> messages during booting and the process was stuck (crashed). >> >> [ 10.539416] systemd[1]: segfault at 7d ip b75a97b7 sp

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> And now you have them. Did you have even one totally unbootable system > with sysvinit and initscripts? I doubt that. That's true, you could almost always use init=/bin/ksh|/bin/zsh etc. and have a largely usable system, more so than the in-built busybox but as the reason is unclear at the momen

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Zhengyu Xu
Hi Allan, Thank you very much for the link as well as the removal of systemd i686 from testing repo. Sorry for generating some unnecessary noise in this list. Best regards, Z. On Sat, 2012-09-22 at 21:40 +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > On 22/09/12 21:39, Øyvind Heggstad wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Sep 20

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Allan McRae
On 22/09/12 21:39, Øyvind Heggstad wrote: > On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:37:26 +0900 > Zhengyu Xu wrote: > >> On Sat, 2012-09-22 at 12:00 +0530, Aurko Roy wrote: >>> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Zhengyu Xu >>> wrote: >>> Dear all, After updating systemd to 191-1 in testing repo, I

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Øyvind Heggstad
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:37:26 +0900 Zhengyu Xu wrote: > On Sat, 2012-09-22 at 12:00 +0530, Aurko Roy wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Zhengyu Xu > > wrote: > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > After updating systemd to 191-1 in testing repo, I had following > > > messages during booting a

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 06:26:36 -0300 Martín Cigorraga wrote: > READ THIS: > > please stop trolling on this list. > > this is very disturbing and already resultet in devs unsubscribing > > from this list. > > > > > READ IT AGAIN: > > > > please stop trolling on this list. > > this is very dist

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:18:49 +1000 Allan McRae wrote: > On 22/09/12 18:07, Heiko Baums wrote: > > Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:09:02 +0900 > > schrieb Zhengyu Xu : > > > >> After updating systemd to 191-1 in testing repo, I had following > >> messages during booting and the process was stuck (crashed)

Re: [arch-general] trolling and leaving

2012-09-22 Thread Joakim Hernberg
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:21:44 +0530 phani wrote: > one troll can't do serious harm. it's when a bunch of others decide > to take him on again & again that things get out of hand. just keep > quiet! I totally agree, the successful troll turns others into worst trolls than themselves. The only cur

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread phani
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:52:53 +0530, Joakim Hernberg wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:17:31 +0200 fredbezies wrote: Let's dump every single technology younger the original unix one. This is better. You're a troll, nothing less. /me unsuscribe. Fed up with your crap and your lies. Please do, b

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:28:58 +0200 schrieb "G. Schlisio" : > its ok to tell your opinion, thats not what i mean with trolling. > impertinent exclamations and unconstructive i-always-told-you > allegations do not help anyone to solve the problem. Oh, this can indeed help. And why shouldn't I tell

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:24:09 +0200 schrieb Sven-Hendrik Haase : > Doesn't seem to be possible with Heiko around. Since nobody seems > happy with banning him, I'm also unsubscribing. So you want to have me banned because you don't like my opinions and experiences, and you don't like that I'm sayin

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Martín Cigorraga
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 6:24 AM, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: > > Doesn't seem to be possible with Heiko around. Since nobody seems happy > with banning him, I'm also unsubscribing. > Hey come on, cool down, what would be of us, mere n00bs? Come on O_O

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread G. Schlisio
Am 22.09.2012 11:14, schrieb Heiko Baums: Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:00:59 +0200 schrieb "G. Schlisio" : please stop trolling on this list. this is very disturbing and already resultet in devs unsubscribing from this list. Sorry, but this is not trolling. This is just telling that I told it before

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Martín Cigorraga
READ THIS: please stop trolling on this list. > this is very disturbing and already resultet in devs unsubscribing from > this list. > READ IT AGAIN: > please stop trolling on this list. > this is very disturbing and already resultet in devs unsubscribing from > this list. > GOTCHA? If you'

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
On 22.09.2012 11:22, Joakim Hernberg wrote: > On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:17:31 +0200 > fredbezies wrote: > >> Let's dump every single technology younger the original unix one. This >> is better. You're a troll, nothing less. >> >> /me unsuscribe. Fed up with your crap and your lies. > Please do, becau

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Joakim Hernberg
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:17:31 +0200 fredbezies wrote: > Let's dump every single technology younger the original unix one. This > is better. You're a troll, nothing less. > > /me unsuscribe. Fed up with your crap and your lies. Please do, because just in a few minutes of posting scatological and

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:11:12 +0200 schrieb fredbezies : > I was fed up by the crap of the original poster. So I said what need > to be written, even if it was a little hard. > > I will remove myself from this list, because it is no more than crap > because of systemd haters. Oh, other people's o

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread fredbezies
2012/9/22 Heiko Baums : > Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:00:59 +0200 > schrieb "G. Schlisio" : > >> please stop trolling on this list. >> this is very disturbing and already resultet in devs unsubscribing >> from this list. > > Sorry, but this is not trolling. This is just telling that I told it > before,

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread fredbezies
2012/9/22 Heiko Baums : > Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:52:10 +0200 > schrieb fredbezies : > >> Just use another distribution. > > Do you think before you write? What exactly does this have to do with > the distribution? And you too ? Every single distribution will face this problem soon. A lot of them w

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:00:59 +0200 schrieb "G. Schlisio" : > please stop trolling on this list. > this is very disturbing and already resultet in devs unsubscribing > from this list. Sorry, but this is not trolling. This is just telling that I told it before, when almost everybody laughed at me a

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread fredbezies
2012/9/22 Jorge Almeida : > On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 9:52 AM, fredbezies wrote: >> 2012/9/22 Heiko Baums : >> >>> You don't consider that I'm not against new software and new versions, >>> but I'm against crap. >>> >> >> So you should do a brain surgery quickly. > > Is this kind of behavior accepta

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:52:01 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae : > Yes. A bash update in [testing] resulted in unbootable systems. I > thought you were around then... maybe it just feels that long. I never used [testing] except for once when I started with Arch. Yes, I once had a serious issue why I s

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:52:10 +0200 schrieb fredbezies : > Just use another distribution. Do you think before you write? What exactly does this have to do with the distribution? Maybe I even would use another distribution if you tell me one Arch like binary distribution which doesn't and never wi

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 9:52 AM, fredbezies wrote: > 2012/9/22 Heiko Baums : > >> You don't consider that I'm not against new software and new versions, >> but I'm against crap. >> > > So you should do a brain surgery quickly. Is this kind of behavior acceptable in a half-civilized environment? T

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread G. Schlisio
Am 22.09.2012 10:07, schrieb Heiko Baums: Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:09:02 +0900 schrieb Zhengyu Xu : After updating systemd to 191-1 in testing repo, I had following messages during booting and the process was stuck (crashed). [ 10.539416] systemd[1]: segfault at 7d ip b75a97b7 sp bfb0ece8 erro

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread fredbezies
2012/9/22 Heiko Baums : > Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:15:16 +0200 > schrieb fredbezies : > >> Don't you read the *important* word : testing ! Are you blind ? > > I read that. And what goes into [testing]? Yes! Bingo! Software version > which are released by upstream as *stable*. So yes, upstream was > s

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Allan McRae
On 22/09/12 18:42, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:18:49 +1000 > schrieb Allan McRae : > >> Medical condition? > > I'm very fine. Thanks. > > Do I really need to say PulseAudio and Lennart Poettering? And do I > really need to say "made my own experiences" (with PA and systemd, > btw

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:15:16 +0200 schrieb fredbezies : > Don't you read the *important* word : testing ! Are you blind ? I read that. And what goes into [testing]? Yes! Bingo! Software version which are released by upstream as *stable*. So yes, upstream was supposed to have this tested before it

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:18:49 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae : > Medical condition? I'm very fine. Thanks. Do I really need to say PulseAudio and Lennart Poettering? And do I really need to say "made my own experiences" (with PA and systemd, btw.). > Because we have never had unbootable systems due t

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Allan McRae
On 22/09/12 18:07, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:09:02 +0900 > schrieb Zhengyu Xu : > >> After updating systemd to 191-1 in testing repo, I had following >> messages during booting and the process was stuck (crashed). >> >> [ 10.539416] systemd[1]: segfault at 7d ip b75a97b7 sp bfb

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread fredbezies
2012/9/22 Heiko Baums : > Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:09:02 +0900 > schrieb Zhengyu Xu : > >> After updating systemd to 191-1 in testing repo, I had following >> messages during booting and the process was stuck (crashed). >> >> [ 10.539416] systemd[1]: segfault at 7d ip b75a97b7 sp bfb0ece8 >> error

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-22 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:09:02 +0900 schrieb Zhengyu Xu : > After updating systemd to 191-1 in testing repo, I had following > messages during booting and the process was stuck (crashed). > > [ 10.539416] systemd[1]: segfault at 7d ip b75a97b7 sp bfb0ece8 > error 4 in libc-2.16.so[b752a000+1a4000