On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:03:54 -0500, Matthias Traunsberger
wrote:
I have succesfully migrated to systemd on my desktop-pc and laptop. I'm
using German locale, and it's working quite well everywhere in X and in
those virtual terminals (Alt+F*), but there is an issue with my laptop
that really b
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> Would we have DNSCurve without DNSSEC, will DNSSEC actually ever get
> fixed having got it out sooner to do so or would it have died and not
> been replaced. Would we have DNSSEC with ECC already, solving a large
> chunk of the issues. Perha
I have succesfully migrated to systemd on my desktop-pc and laptop. I'm
using German locale, and it's working quite well everywhere in X and in
those virtual terminals (Alt+F*), but there is an issue with my laptop
that really bugs me. I can't see underscores "_" in gvim. vim isn't
affected. My .vi
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:30 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Joakim Hernberg wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:57:05 +0100
>> Kevin Chadwick wrote:
>>
>>> p.s. I wasn't being sarcastic about the JS package, polkit now has
>>> javascript based config files!
>>
>>
On Aug 29, 2012 7:33 PM, "Arno Gaboury" wrote:
>
> On 29/08/12||13:20, Sébastien Leblanc wrote:
> > > My issue comes from permission. On console mod, $ aplay -l returns
> > > correctly the devices. When I am on X, it doesn't.
> >
> > Might be a PolicyKit issue. How do you start your X server / des
> You don't need sudo or su to sign a package with your own key, just
> import your own (public) key into the pacman keyring as normal and
> trust it.
I know
The makepkg -i uses sudo or su if missing
You'll need root to import the key once.
Sudo can enforce signed packages are required.
--
__
On 29/08/12||19:32, Tom Gundersen wrote:
>On Aug 29, 2012 6:47 PM, "Arno Gaboury" <[1]arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>
>> On 29/08/12||18:18, Thomas Bächler wrote:
>> > Am 29.08.2012 18:05, schrieb Arno Gaboury:
>> > > GGrrhhh
>> > > $ alsactl store
>> > > alsac
Am Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:32:54 +0200
schrieb Arno Gaboury :
> On 29/08/12||13:20, Sébastien Leblanc wrote:
> > > My issue comes from permission. On console mod, $ aplay -l returns
> > > correctly the devices. When I am on X, it doesn't.
> >
> > Might be a PolicyKit issue. How do you start your X se
On 29/08/12||14:14, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Arno Gaboury
> wrote:
> > On 29/08/12||18:18, Thomas Bächler wrote:
> >> Am 29.08.2012 18:05, schrieb Arno Gaboury:
> >> > GGrrhhh
> >> > $ alsactl store
> >> > alsactl: save_state:1580: No soundcards found...
>
On Aug 29, 2012 6:47 PM, "Arno Gaboury" wrote:
>
> On 29/08/12||18:18, Thomas Bächler wrote:
> > Am 29.08.2012 18:05, schrieb Arno Gaboury:
> > > GGrrhhh
> > > $ alsactl store
> > > alsactl: save_state:1580: No soundcards found...
> >
> > Alsa problem? Permission problem? Have a look at /dev/snd/.
On 29/08/12||13:20, Sébastien Leblanc wrote:
> > My issue comes from permission. On console mod, $ aplay -l returns
> > correctly the devices. When I am on X, it doesn't.
>
> Might be a PolicyKit issue. How do you start your X server / desktop manager?
>
> -- Sébastien Leblanc
Maybe. I startx wi
Disregard that, I did not know enough of systemd to know that it uses
a mechanism named 'loginctl' instead of ConsoleKit...
--
Sébastien Leblanc
On 29 August 2012 13:20, Sébastien Leblanc wrote:
>> My issue comes from permission. On console mod, $ aplay -l returns
>> correctly the devices. When I am on X, it doesn't.
>
> Might be a PolicyKit issue. How do you start your X server / desktop manager?
Guuhhh, ConsoleKit...
--
Sébastien Leb
> My issue comes from permission. On console mod, $ aplay -l returns
> correctly the devices. When I am on X, it doesn't.
Might be a PolicyKit issue. How do you start your X server / desktop manager?
--
Sébastien Leblanc
On 29/08/12||18:53, Kwpolska wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Arno Gaboury
> wrote:
> > On 29/08/12||16:16, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 16:04 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> >> > this is the only issue when booting with systemd.
> >>
> >> There is a certain irony in the f
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> On 29/08/12||18:18, Thomas Bächler wrote:
>> Am 29.08.2012 18:05, schrieb Arno Gaboury:
>> > GGrrhhh
>> > $ alsactl store
>> > alsactl: save_state:1580: No soundcards found...
>>
>> Alsa problem? Permission problem? Have a look at /dev/snd/. A
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> On 29/08/12||16:16, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 16:04 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote:
>> > this is the only issue when booting with systemd.
>>
>> There is a certain irony in the fact that the "only" issue is regarding
>> to system
On 29/08/12||18:18, Thomas Bächler wrote:
> Am 29.08.2012 18:05, schrieb Arno Gaboury:
> > GGrrhhh
> > $ alsactl store
> > alsactl: save_state:1580: No soundcards found...
>
> Alsa problem? Permission problem? Have a look at /dev/snd/. Also note
> that permissions change when you change the sessio
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:57:05 +0100
> Kevin Chadwick wrote:
>
>> p.s. I wasn't being sarcastic about the JS package, polkit now has
>> javascript based config files!
>
> WTF...
>
> I want some of that stuff they smoke at Red Hat :)
... i'
> > > > Don't you need to sign it too? I would
> > >
> > > ?
> >
> > Signing a package you build for yourself, knowing that it's a dummy,
> > without a source and even if there should be a source, why signing this
> > package. Is this an UEFI thingy?
> >
> > Sarcasm lost in translation ;).
> >
Am 29.08.2012 18:05, schrieb Arno Gaboury:
> GGrrhhh
> $ alsactl store
> alsactl: save_state:1580: No soundcards found...
Alsa problem? Permission problem? Have a look at /dev/snd/. Also note
that permissions change when you change the session (for example, switch
from X to a terminal).
signat
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:57:05 +0100
Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> p.s. I wasn't being sarcastic about the JS package, polkit now has
> javascript based config files!
WTF...
I want some of that stuff they smoke at Red Hat :)
---
Joakim
On 29/08/12||12:07, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Arno Gaboury
> wrote:
> > On 29/08/12||11:20, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote:
> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Arno Gaboury
> >> wrote:
> >> > YES, this is a bug. I already commented the module in my def
> The 2:nd will prompt for your password when it installs the package.
Aah, uses sudo and then su. I was wondering how pacman would gain the
permissions.
# check for sudo if we will need it during makepkg execution
if (( ! ( ASROOT || INFAKEROOT ) && ( DEP_BIN || RMDEPS ||
> On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 15:02 +0200, Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:52:22 +0100
> > Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> > > Don't you need to sign it too? I would
> >
> > ?
>
> Signing a package you build for yourself, knowing that it's a dummy,
> without a source and even if there shou
On 29/08/2012 11:04 AM, Arno Gaboury wrote:
On 29/08/12||11:20, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote:
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Arno Gaboury wrote:
YES, this is a bug. I already commented the module in my default.pa, and
now the message has gone.
But pulse audio is still not able to play soun
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> On 29/08/12||11:20, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Arno Gaboury
>> wrote:
>> > YES, this is a bug. I already commented the module in my default.pa, and
>> > now the message has gone.
>> > But pulse audio
On 29/08/12||11:20, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Arno Gaboury
> wrote:
> > YES, this is a bug. I already commented the module in my default.pa, and
> > now the message has gone.
> > But pulse audio is still not able to play sound.
>
> Have you installed puls
On 29/08/12||16:16, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 16:04 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> > this is the only issue when booting with systemd.
>
> There is a certain irony in the fact that the "only" issue is regarding
> to systemd + pulseaudio and not when booting with sysvinit ;D.
>
> R
On 29/08/12||11:20, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Arno Gaboury
> wrote:
> > YES, this is a bug. I already commented the module in my default.pa, and
> > now the message has gone.
> > But pulse audio is still not able to play sound.
>
> Have you installed puls
The emacs update seems to have broken something in the way emacs
displays colors. The portion of the window where there is "nothing" is
always displayed with a light grey tint.
Screenshots:
- starting with -q (i.e. no config): http://i.imgur.com/8ailM.png
- with a theme: http://i.imgur.com/rJjB
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> YES, this is a bug. I already commented the module in my default.pa, and
> now the message has gone.
> But pulse audio is still not able to play sound.
Have you installed pulseaudio-alsa? It provides a default asound.conf
that sets Pulseaudi
On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 16:04 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> this is the only issue when booting with systemd.
There is a certain irony in the fact that the "only" issue is regarding
to systemd + pulseaudio and not when booting with sysvinit ;D.
Rollin', rollin', rollin' ...
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 10:39 +0100, Peter Cannon wrote:
>> Oh and as a side note a rolling release means it rolls,
>> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/roll if it stops because of a
>> breakage or a change in file structure or manipulation that
Dear list,
I have spent now many hours trying to understand why pulseaudio is not
working when I boot with systemd, but works when booting with sysvinit.
I found the culprit could be this:
[gabx@magnolia:~]$ aplay -l
aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...
What is strange is that all my de
On 29/08/12||15:44, Thomas Bächler wrote:
> Am 29.08.2012 10:07, schrieb Arno Gaboury:
> > Sorry for this second post, but I forgot [arch-general] in subject
> >
> > Dear list,
> >
Am 29.08.2012 10:07, schrieb Arno Gaboury:
> Sorry for this second post, but I forgot [arch-general] in subject
>
> Dear list,
>
>
On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 07:18 -0600, Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 06:36:22PM +0200, Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> > A distro fork would be the absolute worst outcome imaginable (imo) of
> > the initscripts vs systemd schism...
>
> Assuming you mean a fork of Arch, I agr
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 06:36:22PM +0200, Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> A distro fork would be the absolute worst outcome imaginable (imo) of
> the initscripts vs systemd schism...
Assuming you mean a fork of Arch, I agree.
But consider ArchHURD downstream. They'll have no choice but to do
something
On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 15:02 +0200, Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:52:22 +0100
> Kevin Chadwick wrote:
>
> > > On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:39:49 +0200
> > > Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> > >
> > > > Or just sudo makepkg -cfi
> > >
> > > Oh dear, where is my brain today...
> > >
> > > $
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:52:22 +0100
Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:39:49 +0200
> > Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> >
> > > Or just sudo makepkg -cfi
> >
> > Oh dear, where is my brain today...
> >
> > $ makepkg -cfi
> >
> > is the correct way of doing it...
> >
> > ---
> >
> >
On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 12:52 +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> > I send the PKGBUILD and the package with a second mail. For good reasons
> > only the PKGBUILD came through the list. I could send the package
> > off-line, but it's more secure to build it yourself using the PKGBUILD.
> > Inside of the d
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:39:49 +0200
> Joakim Hernberg wrote:
>
> > Or just sudo makepkg -cfi
>
> Oh dear, where is my brain today...
>
> $ makepkg -cfi
>
> is the correct way of doing it...
>
> ---
>
>Joakim
Why's that correct?
Don't you need to sign it too? I would
--
_
> I send the PKGBUILD and the package with a second mail. For good reasons
> only the PKGBUILD came through the list. I could send the package
> off-line, but it's more secure to build it yourself using the PKGBUILD.
> Inside of the directory where the PKGBUILD is run
> makepkg
> then as root run
>
> My friends at Red Hat inform me there is little marked improvement with
> SystemD however "It would be jolly nice if we was all the same." so I'm
> slightly mystified at the vehement determination to adopt it?
It would be very nice but in fact whilst unifying some it's current over
spec'd desi
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:39:49 +0200
Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> Or just sudo makepkg -cfi
Oh dear, where is my brain today...
$ makepkg -cfi
is the correct way of doing it...
---
Joakim
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:30:00 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> makepkg
> then as root run
> pacman -U pulseaudio-dummy-1.0-1-any.pkg.tar.xz
Or just sudo makepkg -cfi
---
Joakim
> > lscpi
lspci
> I could send the package off-line
off-list
:D
On 29/08/12||05:59, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Can you do lspci -v? That may at least tell you what pulseaudio fails to
> recognize. On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Arno Gaboury wrote:
>
$ lspci
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset
Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 0
On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 12:15 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> On 29/08/12||12:00, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 11:54 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> > > I am totally lost on this issue, especially the fact that my sound
> card
> > > is not recognized with $aplay -l
> >
> > I bet your soun
On 29/08/12||11:16, John K Pate wrote:
>
> > > >
> > $ lscpi
> > bash: lscpi: command not found !!!
> >
> > I guess something must be wrong in my systemd settings.
>
> The "p" comes before the "c": lspci
>
> lspci is unrelated to systemd.
>
Oh la la, again a typo issue.
I know this has nothi
I have 2 usb disks that are part of a raid 1 array and after checking
the array for consistency the mismatch count is not zero.
>From all I could find by searching the internet this could be due to
disk failure (not the case), or because of user mistake (most probable).
In this case one can eithe
On 29/08/12||12:00, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 11:54 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> > I am totally lost on this issue, especially the fact that my sound card
> > is not recognized with $aplay -l
>
> I bet your soundcard is able to record ;), but only playing doesn't
> work. Get rid
> > >
> $ lscpi
> bash: lscpi: command not found !!!
>
> I guess something must be wrong in my systemd settings.
The "p" comes before the "c": lspci
lspci is unrelated to systemd.
--
John K Pate http://jkpate.net/
The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
Scotland, wi
On 29/08/12||05:59, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Can you do lspci -v? That may at least tell you what pulseaudio fails to
> recognize. On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Arno Gaboury wrote:
>
> > On 29/08/12||05:37, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > > Please run pulseaudio --cleanup-shm then run pulseaudio --start then run
PS
pkgname=pulseaudio-dummy
pkgver=1.0
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc="A dummy package that pretends to provide pulseaudio."
arch=('any')
url=""
license=('BSD')
provides=('pulseaudio')
conflicts=('pulseaudio')
source=()
On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 11:54 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> I am totally lost on this issue, especially the fact that my sound card
> is not recognized with $aplay -l
I bet your soundcard is able to record ;), but only playing doesn't
work. Get rid of PA, if you don't need it for something special.
Can you do lspci -v? That may at least tell you what pulseaudio fails to
recognize. On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> On 29/08/12||05:37, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > Please run pulseaudio --cleanup-shm then run pulseaudio --start then run
> > echo $? and see if you get a zero back. I'm o
On 29/08/12||05:37, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Please run pulseaudio --cleanup-shm then run pulseaudio --start then run
> echo $? and see if you get a zero back. I'm on debian now and dumped
> pulseaudio completely since it got in the way of too many things and
> made an attempt to install a deskto
Hi All
What an interesting diatribe of views and opinions it's been with clearly many
individuals letting their guard down ever so slightly. initially I was of the
opinion that the original subject line of this thread was incorrect and should
have been "Petition to not implement SystemD." altho
Please run pulseaudio --cleanup-shm then run pulseaudio --start then run
echo $? and see if you get a zero back. I'm on debian now and dumped
pulseaudio completely since it got in the way of too many things and
made an attempt to install a desktop environment unmanageable. But this
should get
On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 09:59 +0100, Paul Gideon Dann wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 Aug 2012 14:18:48 gt wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:10:22AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 10:07 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> > > > Sorry for this second post, but I forgot [arch-general] in
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:48 AM, gt wrote:
> And, I don't see any extra [arch-general] in the subject. so you forgot
> to add it again :D
No, the mailing list just doesn't add it again if it's already there.
If it didn't you'd see steadily growing strings of "[arch-general]
[arch-general]" in the
On Wednesday 29 Aug 2012 14:18:48 gt wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:10:22AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 10:07 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> > > Sorry for this second post, but I forgot [arch-general] in subject
> >
> > You don't need to add [arch-general] to the subjec
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:10:22AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 10:07 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> > Sorry for this second post, but I forgot [arch-general] in subject
>
> You don't need to add [arch-general] to the subject, it automatically is
> add to the mails coming throu
Hi,
I have been getting the following error whenever I try to run journalctl:
Assertion 'size > 0' failed at src/journal/mmap-cache.c:615, function
mmap_cache_get(). Aborting.
zsh: abort journalctl
Initially I thought it had something to do with the new sealing key
functionality of system
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> I am able to boot with systemd. For now, I am still using the mixed
> systemd installation, until everything is clear.
> The only issue is with pulseaudio.
> $ journalctl returns
> [pulseaudio] module-equalizer-sink.c: resume s
On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 10:07 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> Sorry for this second post, but I forgot [arch-general] in subject
You don't need to add [arch-general] to the subject, it automatically is
add to the mails coming through the list.
Regards,
Ralf
Sorry for this second post, but I forgot [arch-general] in subject
Dear list,
Dear list,
I am able to boot with systemd. For now, I am still using the mixed
systemd installation, until everything is clear.
The only issue is with pulseaudio.
$ journalctl returns
[pulseaudio] module-equalizer-sink.c: resume state exists but is wrong
size!
I am on XFCE4, and when I start mixe
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