Re: [arch-general] New install media 2012.08.04 uses ZSH, if I may ask, why?

2012-08-06 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 1:21 AM, David Benfell wrote: > I was only being a little bit snarky yesterday. But in truth, it isn't > just zsh features I prefer. For me, the ways in which zsh is > preferably incompatible with bash aren't just in zsh features (which > are indeed very cool) but in the way

Re: [arch-general] WTF? several anon_inode and /dev/null listings with lsof search

2012-08-06 Thread Jeremiah Dodds
rabidblog...@safe-mail.net writes: > $ lsof | grep anon_inode > anon_inode > > $ lsof | grep dev/null > /dev/null > > I find several anon_inodes and over a dozen /dev/null listings, in some > listings > for each there are several processes which are repeated. I'm expecting this to > be a rootkit,

Re: [arch-general] New dual install iso -- Where the heck is arch-setup??

2012-08-06 Thread Jeremiah Dodds
Guus Snijders writes: > 2012/8/6 Paul Gideon Dann : > > [...] > >> As I recall, one of the main issues was that the AIF maintainer has stepped >> down. I don't think the devs actively chose to ditch AIF, it just kind of >> happened, and they've done the best they can in the situation. I'm trust

Re: [arch-general] Is there any project or interest for an new installer?

2012-08-06 Thread Jeremiah Dodds
"David C. Rankin" writes: > On 08/05/2012 03:56 PM, Jeremiah Dodds wrote: >> I've been working on fixing up AIF. I currently have basic support for >> syslinux and grub-bios working, part of my aim is getting enough of an >> understanding of AIF's current codebase to either clean it up well, or >

Re: [arch-general] pacman from behind a proxy (not under my control)

2012-08-06 Thread Eliseo Ocampos
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > So I just tried a new install, it works and even got updated the first > time. Left it over the weekend, now that I'm back on it (still quite > bare, nothing much set up yet) I can't seem to get pacman connected to > the mirrors. > > This machine

[arch-general] pacman from behind a proxy (not under my control)

2012-08-06 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
So I just tried a new install, it works and even got updated the first time. Left it over the weekend, now that I'm back on it (still quite bare, nothing much set up yet) I can't seem to get pacman connected to the mirrors. This machine is a university machine and needs to connect via proxy.name_o

Re: [arch-general] Is there any project or interest for an new installer?

2012-08-06 Thread David C. Rankin
On 08/06/2012 06:04 PM, Daniel Wallace wrote: >> Searching, the only versions I can find are the last version from >> > /var/abs/extra. Is there a newer code repository somewhere? GIT/SVN? >> > > http://projects.archlinux.org > Thank you! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

[arch-general] Trouble with "system" bell

2012-08-06 Thread Scott Lawrence
I'm on a macbook, so there's no true system bell - I've installed xbelld to replace it. Unfortunately, I still get no bell in terminal (rxvt or xterm or st, using "echo -e \\a" or ^G or ^H^H^H), although running 'xkbbell' does give me the bell. Searching online, I find this: https://bbs.archl

Re: [arch-general] New install media 2012.08.04 uses ZSH, if I may ask, why?

2012-08-06 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:21 AM, David Benfell wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 08/06/2012 09:28 AM, Martin Cigorraga wrote: >> On 6 August 2012 08:26, Kevin Chadwick >> wrote: >> >> OT: Talking with an archer on irc about this thread and differences >> between bash

[arch-general] [solved] K3b upgarde is missing libkcddb

2012-08-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 02:15 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi, > I didn't find any information about this issue: > > warning: cannot resolve "libkcddb", a dependency of "k3b" > :: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable > dependencies: > k3b > > Do you want to skip the ab

[arch-general] K3b upgarde is missing libkcddb

2012-08-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi, I didn't find any information about this issue: warning: cannot resolve "libkcddb", a dependency of "k3b" :: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies: k3b Do you want to skip the above package for this upgrade? [y/N] n error: failed to prepare transactio

Re: [arch-general] New install media 2012.08.04 uses ZSH, if I may ask, why?

2012-08-06 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2012 09:28 AM, Martin Cigorraga wrote: > On 6 August 2012 08:26, Kevin Chadwick > wrote: > > OT: Talking with an archer on irc about this thread and differences > between bash and zsh yesterday, he told me he uses zsh for a long > time now a

Re: [arch-general] Is there any project or interest for an new installer?

2012-08-06 Thread Daniel Wallace
On Aug 6, 2012 6:43 PM, "David C. Rankin" wrote: > > On 08/06/2012 05:29 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > > On 08/05/2012 03:56 PM, Jeremiah Dodds wrote: > >> I've been working on fixing up AIF. I currently have basic support for > >> syslinux and grub-bios working, part of my aim is getting enough of

Re: [arch-general] Is there any project or interest for an new installer?

2012-08-06 Thread David C. Rankin
On 08/06/2012 05:29 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 08/05/2012 03:56 PM, Jeremiah Dodds wrote: >> I've been working on fixing up AIF. I currently have basic support for >> syslinux and grub-bios working, part of my aim is getting enough of an >> understanding of AIF's current codebase to either cle

Re: [arch-general] Is there any project or interest for an new installer?

2012-08-06 Thread David C. Rankin
On 08/05/2012 03:56 PM, Jeremiah Dodds wrote: > I've been working on fixing up AIF. I currently have basic support for > syslinux and grub-bios working, part of my aim is getting enough of an > understanding of AIF's current codebase to either clean it up well, or > pull out the good parts into a m

Re: [arch-general] Installation_Guide - fix concerning bootloader config reference

2012-08-06 Thread David C. Rankin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/05/2012 08:41 PM, Daniel Wallace wrote: > In my opinion the beginners guide is a mess, and should be cleaned up by > pointing to the actual pages about the stuff that it is refering to and > only include a few things about outliars. If you want

Re: [arch-general] ip addr show doesn't show my ipv4 address after update, is this expected behaviour?

2012-08-06 Thread Myra Nelson
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > On 6 Aug 2012 18:51, "Karol Blazewicz" wrote: >> >> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Lukas Jirkovsky > wrote: >> > I have the same problem, but it doesn't even show the IPv6 address. >> > Only the link address is shown, which is of no use. >> >

[arch-general] WTF? several anon_inode and /dev/null listings with lsof search

2012-08-06 Thread rabidblogger
$ lsof | grep anon_inode anon_inode $ lsof | grep dev/null /dev/null I find several anon_inodes and over a dozen /dev/null listings, in some listings for each there are several processes which are repeated. I'm expecting this to be a rootkit, but none of the rootkit scanners find anything. Why

[arch-general] kernel: NVRM: GPU at 0000:01:00.0 has fallen off the bus. ??

2012-08-06 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys, On my i686 box with nvida 8600GT, nvidia driver, I have experienced 2 desktop lockups in the past couple of days. When this occurs, the desktop is locked hard, but the mouse still moves. Nothing else is responsive. This has occurred when the desktop is in active use and when the displa

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-06 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Aug 6, 2012 7:48 PM, "Martin Zecher" wrote: > > I also need a newer version of polkit, since the current one (105) broke > compatibility with kdeplasma-applets-networkmanagement > > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Ray Kohler wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Jan Steffens > > wro

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-06 Thread Martin Zecher
I also need a newer version of polkit, since the current one (105) broke compatibility with kdeplasma-applets-networkmanagement On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Ray Kohler wrote: > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Jan Steffens > wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Ray Kohler > wrote: >

Re: [arch-general] Pacman/pactree

2012-08-06 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Arno Gaboury wrote: > Dear list, > > I did some spring home cleaning today among my installed packages. > I wanted to remove one package, but be sure first to know which packages > were depending on the one I wanted to remove. > I then went to the pacman wiki, and r

[arch-general] Pacman/pactree

2012-08-06 Thread Arno Gaboury
Dear list, I did some spring home cleaning today among my installed packages. I wanted to remove one package, but be sure first to know which packages were depending on the one I wanted to remove. I then went to the pacman wiki, and read the following command would do the job : $whoneeds packagena

Re: [arch-general] New install media 2012.08.04 uses ZSH, if I may ask, why?

2012-08-06 Thread Martin Cigorraga
On 6 August 2012 08:26, Kevin Chadwick wrote: OT: Talking with an archer on irc about this thread and differences between bash and zsh yesterday, he told me he uses zsh for a long time now and it has quality improvements over bash like better code organization (he told me zsh is modular), light o

Re: [arch-general] New dual install iso -- Where the heck is arch-setup??

2012-08-06 Thread Guus Snijders
2012/8/6 Paul Gideon Dann : [...] > As I recall, one of the main issues was that the AIF maintainer has stepped > down. I don't think the devs actively chose to ditch AIF, it just kind of > happened, and they've done the best they can in the situation. I'm trusting > it'll be fixed or replaced

Re: [arch-general] ip addr show doesn't show my ipv4 address after update, is this expected behaviour?

2012-08-06 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On 6 Aug 2012 18:51, "Karol Blazewicz" wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: > > I have the same problem, but it doesn't even show the IPv6 address. > > Only the link address is shown, which is of no use. > > > > iproute2 3.4.0-2: > > - > > 1: lo:

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: Softlink /media

2012-08-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 12:48 +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > Ok, thank you. Unfortunately it doesn't work without running > > "sudo mount -a" after each reboot ... > > I have some simple udev rules and scripts that I have not had time to > make Generic and so will need a little customising, if you

Re: [arch-general] Softlink /media

2012-08-06 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> Well... First, automounting is a serious security hole. Serious? In what way? There are far more serious security holes enabled by default that if your concerned have to be disabled or be prevented by disabling the usb port in the bios. Also if a user has physical access on 99.9% of desktops he

Re: [arch-general] New install media 2012.08.04 uses ZSH, if I may ask, why?

2012-08-06 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > > > I really don't care about zsh shipped as default shell as long as > > zsh is full bash-compliance - but AFAIK zsh have some minor > > incompatibilities with bash that may prevent it from being the > > shell standard because the vast majority of scripts are crafted > > using Bash, a widespr

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: Softlink /media

2012-08-06 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> Ok, thank you. Unfortunately it doesn't work without running > "sudo mount -a" after each reboot ... I have some simple udev rules and scripts that I have not had time to make Generic and so will need a little customising, if your interested? They enable gui-less automounting, easily customised

Re: [arch-general] ip addr show doesn't show my ipv4 address after update, is this expected behaviour?

2012-08-06 Thread Lukas Jirkovsky
On 6 August 2012 12:50, Karol Blazewicz wrote: > > $ ip -4 addr > 1: lo: mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN > inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo > 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast > state UP qlen 1000 > inet 192.168.1.2/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0 > > Read the man page for ot

Re: [arch-general] ip addr show doesn't show my ipv4 address after update, is this expected behaviour?

2012-08-06 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: > I have the same problem, but it doesn't even show the IPv6 address. > Only the link address is shown, which is of no use. > > iproute2 3.4.0-2: > - > 1: lo: mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN > link/loopback 00:0

Re: [arch-general] ip addr show doesn't show my ipv4 address after update, is this expected behaviour?

2012-08-06 Thread Lukas Jirkovsky
On 6 August 2012 09:44, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > Hi, iproute2 just got updated to 3.5.0-1 (previously was 3.4.0-2), > because I use [testing]. > > ip addr show seems to work differently now, showing me my ipv6 > assigned address by default rather than my ipv4 address (which was > what I previously got w

Re: [arch-general] New dual install iso -- Where the heck is arch-setup??

2012-08-06 Thread Paul Gideon Dann
On Sunday 05 Aug 2012 09:50:55 Leonid Isaev wrote: > On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 20:43:13 -0500 > > The install guide that is currently in the wiki, does a good job, but it > > is > > extremely terse. The install can be done with the install wiki, but it > > takes an additional level of effort and Linux un

Re: [arch-general] ip addr show doesn't show my ipv4 address after update, is this expected behaviour?

2012-08-06 Thread Myra Nelson
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > Hi, iproute2 just got updated to 3.5.0-1 (previously was 3.4.0-2), > because I use [testing]. > > ip addr show seems to work differently now, showing me my ipv6 > assigned address by default rather than my ipv4 address (which was > what I previous

[arch-general] ip addr show doesn't show my ipv4 address after update, is this expected behaviour?

2012-08-06 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
Hi, iproute2 just got updated to 3.5.0-1 (previously was 3.4.0-2), because I use [testing]. ip addr show seems to work differently now, showing me my ipv6 assigned address by default rather than my ipv4 address (which was what I previously got when running ip addr show. The man page for ip-addres