Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-21 Thread Myra Nelson
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:26 AM, wrote: > >> Hello. >> >> I've read all the arguments of Tom and Ionut. Here is my own $0.02 on >> it. When I started using archlinux back in end of 2008, the winning >> point was this file. A centralized one where you can set up a lot of >> single options. >> >>

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-21 Thread kingfisher
> Hello. > > I've read all the arguments of Tom and Ionut. Here is my own $0.02 on > it. When I started using archlinux back in end of 2008, the winning > point was this file. A centralized one where you can set up a lot of > single options. > > It is *far* simpler to edit /etc/rc.conf to load dae

[arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-21 Thread fredbezies
Hello. I've read all the arguments of Tom and Ionut. Here is my own $0.02 on it. When I started using archlinux back in end of 2008, the winning point was this file. A centralized one where you can set up a lot of single options. It is *far* simpler to edit /etc/rc.conf to load daemons or modules

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [ANNOUNCE] initscripts-2012.07.3

2012-07-21 Thread Sam Mulvey
On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Did you even bother to read what Tom wrote? You can still use your old > rc.conf. It is just recommend to use the new config files instead. This > makes using initscripts and systemd in parallel easier. And there are > not 9k co

Re: [arch-general] Was [arch-dev-public] [ANNOUNCE] initscripts-2012.07.3

2012-07-21 Thread Myra Nelson
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:59 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Myra Nelson wrote: >> >> Tom: >> >> The concerns expressed by Evangelos and Tobias were some of the concerns I >> had when the push towards systemd started. Systemd is great if you are >> managing a larg

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-21 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/20/12 15:34, John Briggs wrote: > General Discussion about Arch Linux > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 03:41:08PM -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: >>> pacman -Su >>> >> >> Not OK: >> >>> [root@shack n7dr]# pacman -Su :: Starting full system >>> upgra

Re: [arch-general] Was [arch-dev-public] [ANNOUNCE] initscripts-2012.07.3

2012-07-21 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Myra Nelson wrote: > > Tom: > > The concerns expressed by Evangelos and Tobias were some of the concerns I > had when the push towards systemd started. Systemd is great if you are > managing a large number of computers, but excessive overkill for one or two > deskt

[arch-general] Was [arch-dev-public] [ANNOUNCE] initscripts-2012.07.3

2012-07-21 Thread Myra Nelson
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Evangelos Foutras > wrote: > > I find removing most of the variables to be confusing and would > > suggest that [1] and [2] get reverted. > > I'm not going to revert them outright, but we can discuss individ

Re: [arch-general] pm-hibernate not working since update to 3.4.5-1-ARCH

2012-07-21 Thread Arvid Warnecke
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 04:27:41PM +0200, Ike Devolder wrote: > Op zaterdag 21 juli 2012 13:30:24 schreef Arvid Warnecke: > > Worked well. > > But did not solve the problem. Hibernation still seems to work at first, > > but when I start the laptop it boots normally, fscks disks because of > > uncle

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-21 Thread Baho Utot
On 07/21/2012 11:24 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 4:57 PM, D. R. Evans wrote: I *think* that this means that in fact glibc owns all the files. It means that no other package owns any files. It might still be that there are files in /lib that are not owned by any package. pac

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-21 Thread D. R. Evans
Ariel Popper said the following at 07/21/2012 09:24 AM : > My reading comprehension may be lacking, but did you check to see if > there are any files in /lib that are *not* owned by any package? > > find /lib -exec pacman -Qo -- {} + > > Commonly there are some directories like /lib/modules or

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-21 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 4:57 PM, D. R. Evans wrote: > I *think* that this means that in fact glibc owns all the files. It means that no other package owns any files. It might still be that there are files in /lib that are not owned by any package. pacman -Qo /lib/* should tell you (or simply "ls

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-21 Thread Ariel Popper
Maybe I'm missing an instruction somewhere, but I don't see it. Doc My reading comprehension may be lacking, but did you check to see if there are any files in /lib that are *not* owned by any package? find /lib -exec pacman -Qo -- {} + Commonly there are some directories like /lib/mod

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-21 Thread D. R. Evans
Norbert Zeh said the following at 07/20/2012 05:34 PM : >> >>> pacman -Su >>> >> >> Not OK: >> >>> [root@shack n7dr]# pacman -Su >>> :: Starting full system upgrade... >>> resolving dependencies... >>> looking for inter-conflicts... >>> >>> Targets (1): glibc-2.16.0-2 >>> >>> Total Installed Size:

Re: [arch-general] pm-hibernate not working since update to 3.4.5-1-ARCH

2012-07-21 Thread Ike Devolder
Op zaterdag 21 juli 2012 13:30:24 schreef Arvid Warnecke: > Hello Ike, > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:15:48PM +0200, Ike Devolder wrote: > > Op vrijdag 20 juli 2012 22:06:31 schreef Arvid Warnecke: > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 03:52:34PM -0400, Daniel Wallace wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 a

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-21 Thread John Briggs
General Discussion about Arch Linux On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 03:41:08PM -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > > pacman -Su > > > > Not OK: > > > [root@shack n7dr]# pacman -Su > > :: Starting full system upgrade... > > resolving dependencies... > > looking for inter-conflicts... > > > > Targets (1): gli

Re: [arch-general] pm-hibernate not working since update to 3.4.5-1-ARCH

2012-07-21 Thread Arvid Warnecke
Hello Ike, On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:15:48PM +0200, Ike Devolder wrote: > Op vrijdag 20 juli 2012 22:06:31 schreef Arvid Warnecke: > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 03:52:34PM -0400, Daniel Wallace wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 09:53:01PM +0200, Arvid Warnecke wrote: > > > > Is there an ideal wa

Re: [arch-general] python needs /usr/include/?

2012-07-21 Thread Christian Hesse
Rodrigo Rivas on Sat, 2012/07/21 00:36: > On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Rodrigo Rivas > wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Christian Hesse wrote: > > > >> Hello everybody, > >> > >> I am creating live media and want to reduce size. After > >> removing /usr/include/ wicd fails to

Re: [arch-general] TeXlive 2012 packages

2012-07-21 Thread Rémy Oudompheng
On 2012/6/26 Rémy Oudompheng wrote: > Hello, > > I am going to put Texlive 2012 packages in [testing]. Texlive 2012 is > not yet released, but it is frozen, so I do not expect changes to > these packages except to fix packaging errors. > Please try them and complain on mailing lists. Don't hesitat

Re: [arch-general] glibc 2.15 -> glibc 2.16 New Build Failures (scope primarily) Expected??

2012-07-21 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
On 20 July 2012 22:34, David C. Rankin wrote: > Guys, > > After going though the usrlib/glibc update and creating a new archroot for > building, I am getting build failures in trinity k3b and k9copy. Both packages > built without error on 7/14 prior to my update. Following update I experience >