Re: [arch-general] DeveloperWiki:usrlib - Note -> rebuild any needed packages *before* attempting update

2012-07-16 Thread David C. Rankin
On 07/15/2012 05:43 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > Actually he really needs hal -->Trinity requires it. > Tim has a viable replacement in alpha. Upcoming 14.0.0 will still use hal, but it is on the way out. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

[arch-general] Trinity - post usrlib move - builds fine!

2012-07-16 Thread David C. Rankin
Just a note for those interested in the trinity project, After the usrlib move, TDE builds fine, including koffice. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

Re: [arch-general] problems with wifi b43 (broadcom)

2012-07-16 Thread Thanos Zygouris
On Sat 14 Jul 22:59, Leonidas Spyropoulos wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Jesse Juhani Jaara > wrote: > > la, 2012-07-14 kello 21:54 +0100, Leonidas Spyropoulos kirjoitti: > >> I can't seem to be able to get an IP. I am including the logs as well. > >> > >> I tried disabling the ipv6 wi

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> Archboot: > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archboot > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=143541 > > It uses a working installer for quite everything. > For complete systemd support next ISO would be better to use, > I'm only waiting for core changes to calm down first. > greetings

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> I learned it from > https://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/disable-suspend-and-hibernate-ubuntu/ > . > > It is different for Arch? > > There isn't anything related under /etc/polkit-1 directory: > $ sudo ls -R > .: > localauthoritylocalauthority.conf.d nullbackend.conf.d > > ./loc

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Myra Nelson
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Not To Miss wrote: > Hi Myra, > > Thanks. Those are related log lines in /var/log/everything: > Jul 13 09:57:20 phelps kernel: [0.00] Fast TSC calibration using > PIT > Jul 13 09:57:20 phelps kernel: [1.293370] Refined TSC clocksource > calibration: 23

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Not To Miss
Hi Myra, Thanks. Those are related log lines in /var/log/everything: Jul 13 09:57:20 phelps kernel: [0.00] Fast TSC calibration using PIT Jul 13 09:57:20 phelps kernel: [1.293370] Refined TSC clocksource calibration: 2399.999 MHz. Jul 13 09:57:20 phelps kernel: [1.293377] Switching

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Myra Nelson
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Not To Miss wrote: > I didn't remeber I had seen anything relevant in log files. Here is the > most recent record in /var/log/messages files (I pressed reset button to > reboot at Jul 15 20:37) with "-- MARK -- \" message lines skipped: > Jul 14 20:36:15 phelps k

Re: [arch-general] [OT] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:03:35PM +0100, Paul Gideon Dann wrote: > Completely off-topic, but am I the only one that chuckled at this title? A > very minor mistake, but "irresponsible" means "not responsible", and brings > to > mind pictures of your computer spending all your money, running an

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Not To Miss
I learned it from https://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/disable-suspend-and-hibernate-ubuntu/ . It is different for Arch? There isn't anything related under /etc/polkit-1 directory: $ sudo ls -R .: localauthoritylocalauthority.conf.d nullbackend.conf.d ./localauthority: 10-vendor.d

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Not To Miss
hah, excuse my poor English On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Paul Gideon Dann wrote: > On Sunday 15 Jul 2012 22:06:01 Not To Miss wrote: > > Dear Arch users, > > > > I have latest Arch installed on my desktop at work. In recent two weeks, > > the system randomly "suspends" at night (I call it "ra

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Not To Miss
Yes, I am using quad core CPU. I don't have instabilities under heavy load. The only thing I saw is that the left one of my two screens jitter when I start wine. On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:06:01 -0400 > schrieb Not To Miss : > > > Dear Arch users

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Rodrigo Rivas
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Not To Miss wrote: > How do I do that? When I choose fallback mode as Arch is booting up, I > still enter gnome-shell. And sometimes it frozen upon startup when I enter > this mode. > The official way is opening "gnome-control-center", and "Details" (in System se

Re: [arch-general] crazy mount process

2012-07-16 Thread Andrea Crotti
On 07/16/2012 08:19 PM, Aurko Roy wrote: I had a similar problem today when I tried to mount my portable hard drives. The mount process would consume 100% cpu and could not be killed. Further when I tried to give the shutdown/halt command the system would not shut down either. The next time I sto

Re: [arch-general] crazy mount process

2012-07-16 Thread Aurko Roy
I had a similar problem today when I tried to mount my portable hard drives. The mount process would consume 100% cpu and could not be killed. Further when I tried to give the shutdown/halt command the system would not shut down either. The next time I stopped dbus before attempting to mount again

[arch-general] crazy mount process

2012-07-16 Thread Andrea Crotti
I just finished to get my computer running again, I did a "pacman -Suf", and the glibc issue made my machine unusable.. Anyway I fixed that easily without reinstalling anything luckily, but now on reboot I see something very strange. There is a process running and keeping my machine busy: 357

Re: [arch-general] Glibc problems still failing

2012-07-16 Thread Jameson
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 6:04 AM, P NIKOLIC wrote: > Hi . > > Well i have followed the the info on the arch site but still can not upgrade > glibc > I don't know if it will help you, but the command from the guide: find /lib -exec pacman -Qo -- {} + led me to find that a custom kernel package inc

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Am Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:28:00 +0200 > schrieb fredbezies : > >> Hello. >> >> I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very >> "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like >> good old arch/setup ? >

Re: [arch-general] login fails after update

2012-07-16 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > I agree. We are currently in the final stages of testing a new iso. I'm > also advocating we drop the core instal as it is causing too many problems > in case it is outdated. what if we only built net-install images, and "core" images were

Re: [arch-general] Installing without using AIF?

2012-07-16 Thread Christoph Vigano
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/16/2012 05:10 PM, Chris Sakalis wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Tom Gundersen > wrote: >> >> I'd be happy to add more details to that wiki page, if people >> post questions they have about it. >> >> -t > > Hello. > > Most of th

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: login fails after update

2012-07-16 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> I think we still have the issue that > people will be using install media they downloaded some time ago and > expecting it (not unreasonably) to work well. Worked fine for me and with AIF auto install on Jun 6th. I guess as with many things it could last days or perhaps a year one time. -- ___

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > I think my current settings is overwritten by an most recent system update > to "yes" now. But the problem exists no matter what setting that is. If my memory serves try editing inside the directories in /etc/polkit-1, rather than /usr/share. I think there are some incorrect (/usr/share is u

Re: [arch-general] Installing without using AIF?

2012-07-16 Thread Chris Sakalis
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > I'd be happy to add more details to that wiki page, if people post > questions they have about it. > > -t Hello. Most of the stuff (like partitioning, configuration etc) are already explained in detail in other pages. Perhaps, what is nee

Re: [arch-general] Installing without using AIF?

2012-07-16 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 4:04 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > Thanks - yes I had seen this link and it is really terse - I was > hoping there was something available with a little more detail > though... I'd be happy to add more details to that wiki page, if people post questions they have about it. -t

Re: [arch-general] Installing without using AIF?

2012-07-16 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > This should be a start: > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Install_Scripts Thanks - yes I had seen this link and it is really terse - I was hoping there was something available with a little more detail though... -- mike c

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Not To Miss
How do I do that? When I choose fallback mode as Arch is booting up, I still enter gnome-shell. And sometimes it frozen upon startup when I enter this mode. On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:52 AM, Rodrigo Rivas wrote: > You certainly seem to have an OOPS related to the nvidia driver: > > >Call Trace

Re: [arch-general] Glibc problems still failing

2012-07-16 Thread John K Pate
> and .. > 7-of-9:/home/pete/Documents # cd / > 7-of-9:/ # grep '^lib/' /var/lib/pacman/local/*/files | grep -v glibc > /var/lib/pacman/local/ld-lsb-3-3/files:lib/ > /var/lib/pacman/local/ld-lsb-3-3/files:lib/ld-lsb.so.3 I had the same issue. updating ld-lsb (from the aur) will move the offending

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Not To Miss
I didn't know the command pkaction. It's quite handy. Here are the output of the pkaction: $ pkaction | grep "\(hibernate\)\|\(suspend\)" -i org.freedesktop.upower.hibernate org.freedesktop.upower.suspend $ pkaction --action-id org.freedesktop.upower.suspend --verbose org.freedesktop.upower.suspe

Re: [arch-general] Glibc problems still failing

2012-07-16 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 20:33:15 +0900 Vladimir Lomov wrote: > Hello, > ** P NIKOLIC [2012-07-16 11:04:31 +0100]: > > Pruned for space > > How about to post results of > $ pacman -Qo /lib/* > and > $ grep '^lib/' /var/lib/pacman/local/*/files | grep -v glibc > > > Plus a few more  how do i get ro

[arch-general] Fwd: arch-general Digest, Vol 93, Issue 66

2012-07-16 Thread fredbezies
First of all, sorry for this "all-in-one" answer, I do have to set options :| [...] >I think you want to use ArchBoot, the oldest oficial setup. I do have an archboot iso on an usb key. [...] >Personally I think we would be better off with just these scripts + >lots of documentation. If you are

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Am Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:28:00 +0200 schrieb fredbezies : > Hello. > > I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very > "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like > good old arch/setup ? > > I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some us

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2012-07-16 14:13:39 +0200] Christoph Vigano: > Speaking of which: how can one get involved into the development of AIF? https://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-releng > Is there something like a bug list for it? https://bugs.archlinux.org/index.php?project=6 > Something different:

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread Christoph Vigano
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 > Personally I think we would be better off with just these scripts > + lots of documentation. If you are interested in an installer, > then I guess the best solution is to get involved with the AIF and > get it into shape again. Speaking of which:

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2012-07-16 13:28:00 +0200] fredbezies: > I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users > which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool. In view of the many issues and complaints related to the move from /lib to /usr/lib, it seems pretty clear to me that most pe

Re: [arch-general] login fails after update

2012-07-16 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Christoph Vigano wrote: > The only thing that would kind of prevent the breakage would be the > quick release of a new iso. I do not know whether this is possible. We hope to have a new process in place so that very frequent iso releases are possible. However, I t

Re: [arch-general] login fails after update

2012-07-16 Thread Christoph Vigano
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 > I agree. We are currently in the final stages of testing a new iso. > I'm also advocating we drop the core instal as it is causing too > many problems in case it is outdated. This seems to be a step in the right direction, works smoothly for othe

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 1:28 PM, fredbezies wrote: > I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very > "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like > good old arch/setup ? Personally I think we would be better off with just these scripts + lots of documenta

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread Leandro Inacio
2012/7/16 fredbezies > Hello. > > I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very > "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like > good old arch/setup ? > > I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users > which are not ready for a so "

Re: [arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
fredbezies wrote: Hello. I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like good old arch/setup ? I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users which are not ready for a so "simplified" insta

Re: [arch-general] Glibc problems still failing

2012-07-16 Thread Vladimir Lomov
Hello, ** P NIKOLIC [2012-07-16 11:04:31 +0100]: > Hi . > Well i have followed the the info on the arch site but still can not upgrade > glibc >  i get this > error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) > glibc: /lib exists in filesystem > glibc: /usr/lib/ld-2.16.so exists in fi

[arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.

2012-07-16 Thread fredbezies
Hello. I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like good old arch/setup ? I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool. -- F

Re: [arch-general] login fails after update

2012-07-16 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Jul 16, 2012 1:02 PM, "Fons Adriaensen" wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:20:10PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > On Jul 16, 2012 12:17 PM, "Fons Adriaensen" wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 04:42:28AM +0100, Dave Morgan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The most likely reason for /bin/

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Paul Gideon Dann
On Sunday 15 Jul 2012 22:06:01 Not To Miss wrote: > Dear Arch users, > > I have latest Arch installed on my desktop at work. In recent two weeks, > the system randomly "suspends" at night (I call it "randomly" because it > didn't happen every night. And it seems to happen after a random period > i

Re: [arch-general] login fails after update

2012-07-16 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:20:10PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Jul 16, 2012 12:17 PM, "Fons Adriaensen" wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 04:42:28AM +0100, Dave Morgan wrote: > > > > > > > The most likely reason for /bin/login being missing is that the upgrade > > > was forced. > > > > N

Re: [arch-general] login fails after update

2012-07-16 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Jul 16, 2012 12:17 PM, "Fons Adriaensen" wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 04:42:28AM +0100, Dave Morgan wrote: > > > > The most likely reason for /bin/login being missing is that the upgrade > > was forced. > > No, it was not. As already said I followed the instructions > which clearly stated

Re: [arch-general] login fails after update

2012-07-16 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 04:42:28AM +0100, Dave Morgan wrote: > The most likely reason for /bin/login being missing is that the upgrade > was forced. No, it was not. As already said I followed the instructions which clearly stated not to use --force. Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliabl

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:06:01 -0400 schrieb Not To Miss : > Dear Arch users, > > I have latest Arch installed on my desktop at work. In recent two > weeks, the system randomly "suspends" at night (I call it "randomly" > because it didn't happen every night. And it seems to happen after a > random

[arch-general] Glibc problems still failing

2012-07-16 Thread P NIKOLIC
Hi . Well i have followed the the info on the arch site but still can not upgrade glibc  i get this error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) glibc: /lib exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/ld-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 exists in filesyst

Re: [arch-general] Installing without using AIF?

2012-07-16 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Jul 16, 2012 11:53 AM, "mike cloaked" wrote: > > Given the significant changes to key packages in recent times as well > as the main AIF developer leaving I thought I would start looking at > how to do a clean install without reference to AIF. There are new > isos now available which have drop

[arch-general] Installing without using AIF?

2012-07-16 Thread mike cloaked
Given the significant changes to key packages in recent times as well as the main AIF developer leaving I thought I would start looking at how to do a clean install without reference to AIF. There are new isos now available which have dropped AIF in favour of the arch-install-scripts but as yet I

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> I tried to disable suspension and hibernation by editing > /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.upower.policy to change > from > yes > to > no > > But it doesn't work. The polkit docs (you have to look at the source code) and configuration system are terrible and difficult to monitor to

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Guillermo Leira
> -Mensaje original- > De: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org [mailto:arch-general- > boun...@archlinux.org] En nombre de Not To Miss > Enviado el: lunes, 16 de julio de 2012 6:00 > Para: General Discussion about Arch Linux > Asunto: Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irrespons

Re: [arch-general] my Arch box randomly becomes irresponsible

2012-07-16 Thread Rodrigo Rivas
You certainly seem to have an OOPS related to the nvidia driver: >Call Trace: >[] ? _nv003990rm+0x406e/0xa790 [nvidia] And it looks like it is originated in the gnome-shell process. You can try switching to the fallback graphics mode (no gnome-shell) and see if it works normally. Regard