Re: [arch-general] Mailing lists vs Forums

2012-06-10 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 06/10/2012 09:14 PM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: Personally, I prefer mailing lists, So do I. Mailing list is, in my VERY humble opinion, the place where you find higher quality discussion than on web forums. But, that's just my opinion. -- RMA.

Re: [arch-general] Switching betweenX and TTY freezes WM

2012-06-10 Thread Sébastien le Preste de Vauban
El 10/06/12 20:35, Don deJuan escribió: On 06/10/2012 05:30 PM, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote: El 10/06/12 20:18, John Briggs escribió: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 07:35:45AM +0800, 逸冰欧阳 wrote: I also have the same problem. And remember that Ubuntu, Fedora work well, so I wonder whether it i

Re: [arch-general] Switching betweenX and TTY freezes WM

2012-06-10 Thread 逸冰欧阳
I find that If you don't input anything like hitting ENTER at 8th step , everything is OK. On Jun 11, 2012 1:43 AM, "Mateusz Loskot" wrote: > Hi, > > I have been observing strange issues when I switch between X and TTY. > Here is the step-by-step story with details: > > 0. Login to tty1 and ttt2

Re: [arch-general] Switching betweenX and TTY freezes WM

2012-06-10 Thread John Briggs
OK. I have some results from my machine here: To access TTY from X Ctl Alt F1 consistently returns to initial TTY running xinit process Ctl Alt F2 cursor only but no login prompt Ctl Alt F3 login prompt Ctl Alt F4 login prompt Ctl Alt F5 login prompt Ctl Alt F6 login prompt Ctl Alt F7 cursor only C

Re: [arch-general] Switching betweenX and TTY freezes WM

2012-06-10 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 11 June 2012 01:51, Sudaraka Wijesinghe wrote: > On 06/11/12 06:00, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote: >> El 10/06/12 20:18, John Briggs escribió: >>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 07:35:45AM +0800, 逸冰欧阳 wrote: I also have the same problem. And remember that Ubuntu, Fedora work well,

Re: [arch-general] Switching betweenX and TTY freezes WM

2012-06-10 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 11 June 2012 01:35, Don deJuan wrote: > On 06/10/2012 05:30 PM, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote: >> El 10/06/12 20:18, John Briggs escribió: >>> >>> What bug? >>> The TTY running X is busy running the xinit/xsession process, until you >>> kill that process you shouldn't be able to get the c

Re: [arch-general] Switching betweenX and TTY freezes WM

2012-06-10 Thread Sudaraka Wijesinghe
On 06/11/12 06:00, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote: > El 10/06/12 20:18, John Briggs escribió: >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 07:35:45AM +0800, 逸冰欧阳 wrote: >>> I also have the same problem. And remember that Ubuntu, Fedora work >>> well, >>> so I wonder whether it is a bug. >>> On Jun 11, 2012 4:2

Re: [arch-general] Switching betweenX and TTY freezes WM

2012-06-10 Thread Don deJuan
On 06/10/2012 05:30 PM, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote: El 10/06/12 20:18, John Briggs escribió: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 07:35:45AM +0800, 逸冰欧阳 wrote: I also have the same problem. And remember that Ubuntu, Fedora work well, so I wonder whether it is a bug. On Jun 11, 2012 4:21 AM, "Mateu

Re: [arch-general] Switching betweenX and TTY freezes WM

2012-06-10 Thread Sébastien le Preste de Vauban
El 10/06/12 20:18, John Briggs escribió: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 07:35:45AM +0800, 逸冰欧阳 wrote: I also have the same problem. And remember that Ubuntu, Fedora work well, so I wonder whether it is a bug. On Jun 11, 2012 4:21 AM, "Mateusz Loskot" wrote: On 10 June 2012 20:35, Sébastien le Prest

Re: [arch-general] Switching betweenX and TTY freezes WM

2012-06-10 Thread John Briggs
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 07:35:45AM +0800, 逸冰欧阳 wrote: > I also have the same problem. And remember that Ubuntu, Fedora work well, > so I wonder whether it is a bug. > On Jun 11, 2012 4:21 AM, "Mateusz Loskot" wrote: > > > On 10 June 2012 20:35, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban > > wrote: > > > El

[arch-general] libusbx

2012-06-10 Thread Fons Adriaensen
Regarding the libusb / libusbx replacement, the following may be of interest to authors using it: I have one app using libusb, after the upgrade it consistently segfaulted on calling libusb_exit(0). The '0' argument in this call and some others means my code was using the 'default context'. Usin

Re: [arch-general] Switching betweenX and TTY freezes WM

2012-06-10 Thread 逸冰欧阳
I also have the same problem. And remember that Ubuntu, Fedora work well, so I wonder whether it is a bug. On Jun 11, 2012 4:21 AM, "Mateusz Loskot" wrote: > On 10 June 2012 20:35, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban > wrote: > > El 10/06/12 14:11, Mateusz Loskot escribió: > >> On 10 June 2012 19:03,

Re: [arch-general] Switching betweenX and TTY freezes WM

2012-06-10 Thread Don deJuan
On 06/10/2012 01:21 PM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: On 10 June 2012 20:35, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote: El 10/06/12 14:11, Mateusz Loskot escribió: On 10 June 2012 19:03, Javier Vasquez wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: I have been observing strange issues

Re: [arch-general] Bash/term takes long time at first run each boot?

2012-06-10 Thread Rodrigo Rivas
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Jonathan E. Brickman wrote: > My .bashrc is: > > alias ls='ls --color=auto' > [ ! "$UID" = "0" ] && archbey -c white > [ "$UID" = "0" ] && archbey -c red > #PS1="\[\e[01;31m\]??[\[\e[01;**35m\u\e[01;31m\]]??[\[\e[00;** > 37m\]${HOSTNAME%%.*}\[\e[01;**32m

Re: [arch-general] Switching betweenX and TTY freezes WM

2012-06-10 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 10 June 2012 20:35, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote: > El 10/06/12 14:11, Mateusz Loskot escribió: >> On 10 June 2012 19:03, Javier Vasquez wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Mateusz Loskot >>> wrote: I have been observing strange issues when I switch between X and

Re: [arch-general] Bash/term takes long time at first run each boot?

2012-06-10 Thread Jonathan E. Brickman
When I run any terminal emulator for the first time after a reboot, it takes a long time for Bash to come up, the window is blank for 10-20 seconds. On a quad AMD X4 with 4G RAM. Started after updates, don't know which ones. Anyone got a suggestion, or a good way to diagnose? I've had a simi

Re: [arch-general] Switching betweenX and TTY freezes WM

2012-06-10 Thread Sébastien le Preste de Vauban
El 10/06/12 14:11, Mateusz Loskot escribió: On 10 June 2012 19:03, Javier Vasquez wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: I have been observing strange issues when I switch between X and TTY. [...] I started noticing this same thing since last year (though don't rememb

Re: [arch-general] Mailing lists vs Forums

2012-06-10 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 10 June 2012 19:40, Kwpolska wrote: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: >> On 10 June 2012 19:25, Jayesh Badwaik wrote: >>> On Sunday 10 Jun 2012 19:14:19 Mateusz Loskot wrote: I'm wondering, what amount of Arch users and developers use the mailing lists in

Re: [arch-general] Mailing lists vs Forums

2012-06-10 Thread Guillaume ALAUX
On 10 June 2012 20:40, Kwpolska wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Mateusz Loskot > wrote: > > On 10 June 2012 19:25, Jayesh Badwaik > > wrote: > >> On Sunday 10 Jun 2012 19:14:19 Mateusz Loskot wrote: > >>> > >>> I'm wondering, what amount of Arch users and developers > >>> use the mai

Re: [arch-general] Mailing lists vs Forums

2012-06-10 Thread Kwpolska
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: > On 10 June 2012 19:25, Jayesh Badwaik wrote: >> On Sunday 10 Jun 2012 19:14:19 Mateusz Loskot wrote: >>> >>> I'm wondering, what amount of Arch users and developers >>> use the mailing lists in comparison to the number of people >>> registe

Re: [arch-general] Mailing lists vs Forums

2012-06-10 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 10 June 2012 19:25, Jayesh Badwaik wrote: > On Sunday 10 Jun 2012 19:14:19 Mateusz Loskot wrote: >> >> I'm wondering, what amount of Arch users and developers >> use the mailing lists in comparison to the number of people >> registered to the Arch Forums? >> >> Can we have some basic mailing li

Re: [arch-general] Mailing lists vs Forums

2012-06-10 Thread Jayesh Badwaik
On Sunday 10 Jun 2012 19:14:19 Mateusz Loskot wrote: > Hi, > > I'm wondering, what amount of Arch users and developers > use the mailing lists in comparison to the number of people > registered to the Arch Forums? > > Can we have some basic mailing lists statistics anywhere posted? > > Personall

[arch-general] Mailing lists vs Forums

2012-06-10 Thread Mateusz Loskot
Hi, I'm wondering, what amount of Arch users and developers use the mailing lists in comparison to the number of people registered to the Arch Forums? Can we have some basic mailing lists statistics anywhere posted? Personally, I prefer mailing lists, but I noticed the Forums traffic is order of

Re: [arch-general] Switching betweenX and TTY freezes WM

2012-06-10 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 10 June 2012 19:03, Javier Vasquez wrote: > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: >> >> I have been observing strange issues when I switch between X and TTY. >> [...] > > I started noticing this same thing since last year (though don't > remember when exactly).  Never asked c

Re: [arch-general] Switching betweenX and TTY freezes WM

2012-06-10 Thread Javier Vasquez
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: > Hi, > > I have been observing strange issues when I switch between X and TTY. > Here is the step-by-step story with details: > > 0. Login to tty1 and ttt2 > 1. From tty2 (not tty1), startx with either i3wm or Openbox > 2. Launch 2-3 apps (e

[arch-general] Switching betweenX and TTY freezes WM

2012-06-10 Thread Mateusz Loskot
Hi, I have been observing strange issues when I switch between X and TTY. Here is the step-by-step story with details: 0. Login to tty1 and ttt2 1. From tty2 (not tty1), startx with either i3wm or Openbox 2. Launch 2-3 apps (e.g. urxvt, Firefox) 3. Switch back to tty1 (CTRL+ALT+F1) 4. Execute so

Re: [arch-general] [cdrecord] Problems with original cdrecord on latest linux kernel

2012-06-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > On 06/10/2012 05:23 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote: >> >> Javier Vasquez wrote: >> >>> >>> I've been using the original cdrecord (cdrtools) for more than 10 > > cdrtools aka wodim work fine. > Is "aka" a synonym for "I'm a troll"?

Re: [arch-general] [linux-lts] unable to auto mount some usb device

2012-06-10 Thread ShichaoGao
I'm using Gnome and cat /var/log/messages.log shows following: Jun 11 00:46:33 localhost kernel: [27115.671006] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] 15564800 512-byte logical blocks: (7.96 GB/7.42 GiB) Jun 11 00:46:33 localhost kernel: [27115.675124] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled,

Re: [arch-general] [linux-lts] unable to auto mount some usb device

2012-06-10 Thread Øyvind Heggstad
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:03:53 +0800 GSC wrote: > After recent update of linux-lts to 3.0.33, it fails to auto mount my > android device as usb storage(moto atrix2). My other usb devices are > auto mounted successfully, just this one fail to auto mount every > time. It can be manually mount succes

[arch-general] iPhone not -completely- detected (ifuse doesn't work)

2012-06-10 Thread Sergi Pons Freixes
and is not jailbroken. The system has installed: linux-lqx 3.4.2-1 ifuse 1.1.2-1 libimobiledevice-git 20120610-1 usbmuxd-git 20120610-1 libplist 1.8-2 I boot up the system (fuse module is loaded at startup), unlock the iPhone, and connect it to the system. I got: usb 2-2: new high-speed USB

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] linux 3.4.1 ready for [core]?

2012-06-10 Thread Genes MailLists
> On 06/10/2012 09:01 AM, Florian Pritz wrote: >> On 08.06.2012 21:54, Tobias Powalowski wrote: >>> Hi guys, >>> signoffs are done, anything that stops us from moving to new kernel series? >> >> My nfs problems (bad file contents) seem to be fixed with 3.4.2. >> It seems some may still be having

Re: [arch-general] [cdrecord] Problems with original cdrecord on latest linux kernel

2012-06-10 Thread Baho Utot
On 06/10/2012 05:23 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Javier Vasquez wrote: Hi, I've been using the original cdrecord (cdrtools) for more than 10 years now, however I hadn't burned anything in the last 3 months (or even more). With the current linux kernel image from Arch: % uname -a Linux jvasque

Re: [arch-general] [cdrecord] Problems with original cdrecord on latest linux kernel

2012-06-10 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
On 10 June 2012 14:05, Tom Gundersen wrote: > It works the same with initscripts and with systemd. > > It is strictly speaking not udev that loads these modules but a > separate tool: /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-modules-load, which is shipped > in the same package as udev (systemd-tools). Great, I'l

Re: [arch-general] [cdrecord] Problems with original cdrecord on latest linux kernel

2012-06-10 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote: > Tom, I don't know much about this modules-load.d stuff. Does it work > with plain udev? Otherwise it wouldn't help much including that file > for users that doesn't use systemd (and I'm one of them). It works the same with initscripts and

Re: [arch-general] [cdrecord] Problems with original cdrecord on latest linux kernel

2012-06-10 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
On 10 June 2012 11:57, Tom Gundersen wrote: > The module-load.d directory is supported by us, as well as all distros > using systemd. So Jörg, you might consider including this upstream, if > it is the sg module is really needed. Tom, Jörg, nice to see you two interested. Tom, I don't know much

Re: [arch-general] [cdrecord] Problems with original cdrecord on latest linux kernel

2012-06-10 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Why should someone call an important driver "legacy"? I assume it is because it has some problems, and has been replaced by something else. But you'd have to take it up with the udev maintainer, as he is the one who made the change, or th

Re: [arch-general] Do packages built on libusb need rebuilding on libusbx? upsd won't stay connected over usb.

2012-06-10 Thread slubman
On 10 juin 2012, at 07:12, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 06/09/2012 11:57 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: >> "Those udev rules were moved to /usr/lib/udev/rules.d, so >> --with-udev-dir=/usr/lib/udev might be a better option." >> >> That makes sense -- I'll give it a go. > > Tried, still failed - out

Re: [arch-general] [cdrecord] Problems with original cdrecord on latest linux kernel

2012-06-10 Thread Joerg Schilling
Tom Gundersen wrote: > Jörg, Luká??, > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Joerg Schilling > wrote: > > Looks like a missconfigured kernel that does not include support for or > > for some strange reason does not load the SCSI generic driver > > Our kernel does in fact include the "sg" module. H

Re: [arch-general] [cdrecord] Problems with original cdrecord on latest linux kernel

2012-06-10 Thread Tom Gundersen
Jörg, Lukáš, On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Looks like a missconfigured kernel that does not include support for or > for some strange reason does not load the SCSI generic driver Our kernel does in fact include the "sg" module. However, it is considered "legacy" [0]

Re: [arch-general] [cdrecord] Problems with original cdrecord on latest linux kernel

2012-06-10 Thread Joerg Schilling
Javier Vasquez wrote: > Hi, > > I've been using the original cdrecord (cdrtools) for more than 10 > years now, however I hadn't burned anything in the last 3 months (or > even more). With the current linux kernel image from Arch: > > % uname -a > Linux jvasquez14 3.3.8-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue

[arch-general] [linux-lts] unable to auto mount some usb device

2012-06-10 Thread GSC
After recent update of linux-lts to 3.0.33, it fails to auto mount my android device as usb storage(moto atrix2). My other usb devices are auto mounted successfully, just this one fail to auto mount every time. It can be manually mount successfully. And I tried linux kernel(3.3.8), auto mounted su

Re: [arch-general] [cdrecord] Problems with original cdrecord on latest linux kernel

2012-06-10 Thread Javier Vasquez
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote: > On 10 June 2012 01:41, Javier Vasquez wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've been using the original cdrecord (cdrtools) for more than 10 >> years now, however I hadn't burned anything in the last 3 months (or >> even more).  With the current linux kern

Re: [arch-general] [cdrecord] Problems with original cdrecord on latest linux kernel

2012-06-10 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
On 10 June 2012 01:41, Javier Vasquez wrote: > Hi, > > I've been using the original cdrecord (cdrtools) for more than 10 > years now, however I hadn't burned anything in the last 3 months (or > even more).  With the current linux kernel image from Arch: > > % uname -a > Linux jvasquez14 3.3.8-1-AR