Re: [arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.1-2

2011-10-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 25.10.2011 17:12, schrieb Tobias Powalowski: >> Hi guys, >> please signoff 3.1 series for both arches. >> >> Upstream >> changes: >> http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges >> >> Archlinux Changes: >> - $(uname -r) reports now the full kern

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:09 PM, clemens fischer wrote: >    10  +In order for this to work, /usr needs to be in your /etc/fstab and it >    11  +should be marked for not being fsck'ed (the last option should be 0). > > This is getting weird.  Who/what is going to fsck(8) /usr then? This is work

Re: [arch-general] no ACPI estimate in powertop with latest kernels

2011-10-25 Thread Neal Haslam
@clemens Thank you for pointing out my oversight. There is a patched powertop2 in the AUR with the correct URL in the PKGBUILD. -- Neal On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:59 PM, clemens fischer < ino-n...@spotteswoode.dnsalias.org> wrote: > On Tue-2011/10/11-13:06 Neal Haslam wrote: > > > @Tom > > Thank

Re: [arch-general] See the llvm volumes from GRUB console

2011-10-25 Thread Alfredo Palhares
Thank you. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Nyuszika7H wrote: > Hi Alfredo, > > If you've got a live CD, boot it up and execute the following commands: > > [root@archiso]# modprobe dm-mod > [root@archiso]# vgscan > Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while... > Found volume group "Yo

Re: [arch-general] Pacman makepkg and signatures

2011-10-25 Thread Steve Holmes
On 10/25/11, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote: > The trust problem is complex, indeed, but we can at least mitigate it > doing the following (it's what I do): > > 1. set TrustedOnly, instead of TrustAll > 2. import the keys when pacman asks > 3. # pacman-key --edit-key . That will open a gpg > sessio

Re: [arch-general] Pacman makepkg and signatures

2011-10-25 Thread Allan McRae
On 26/10/11 04:38, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote: On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: OK, remarks here: 1. Web of trust is something relevant when people actually know each other either directly or indirectly (e.g. through mutual friends). When developers are concerned, for any

Re: [arch-general] no ACPI estimate in powertop with latest kernels

2011-10-25 Thread clemens fischer
On Tue-2011/10/11-13:06 Neal Haslam wrote: > @Tom > Thankyou for pointing out powertop2. It allows for more control than > the original powertop. The URL in the PKGBUILD is not correct because > of kernel.org's changes. Googling for a new location was easy enough. If it was so easy, what was so

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] udev-174-1

2011-10-25 Thread clemens fischer
Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:56 PM, clemens fischer <...> wrote: > >> My system broke with udev-174-1.  I have rules renaming eth* >> according to their MACs for consistency, guarding against dependency >> on order-of-detection, plus rules to customize a wlan running on an >> U

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-25 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 25.10.2011 20:12, schrieb clemens fischer: >> Mounting /usr needs to go to the initramfs. It is possible to implement >> a mount handler for this. At this stage, the by-label symlinks exist >> already. > > AFAIU udevd(8) is responsible for setting up those symlinks. How can > they exist _befor

[arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.1-2

2011-10-25 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 25.10.2011 17:12, schrieb Tobias Powalowski: > Hi guys, > please signoff 3.1 series for both arches. > > Upstream > changes: > http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges > > Archlinux Changes: > - $(uname -r) reports now the full kernel version > - all external modules should be installed in > /l

Re: [arch-general] Pacman makepkg and signatures

2011-10-25 Thread Denis A . Altoé Falqueto
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > OK, remarks here: > 1. Web of trust is something relevant when people actually know each other > either directly or indirectly (e.g. through mutual friends). When developers > are concerned, for any distro, this concept looses its meaning, bec

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-25 Thread clemens fischer
Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:12 PM, clemens fischer ... wrote: (Removed email. No need to atract spammers!) >> What patch would that be?  THE-FAVOURITE-SEARCH-ENGINE didn't pull >> anything useful for "patch Thomas-Bächler busybox".  Can somebody point >> us to the relevant

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-25 Thread clemens fischer
Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 25.10.2011 14:12, schrieb clemens fischer: >>> We are currently working on adding support for the second approach, >>> but we are not there yet (I have some patches against mkinitcpio to >>> add this, but they rely on a patch by Thomas against busybox that has >>> not ye

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 25.10.2011 17:51, schrieb Tom Gundersen: >> This is what I had in mind: >> . > > Just two problems: Good points. > 1) You overmount the initramfs' /usr f

Re: [arch-general] Pacman makepkg and signatures

2011-10-25 Thread Leonid Isaev
On (10/25/11 10:19), Steve Holmes wrote: -~> On 10/25/11, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote: -~> > -~> > I didn't understand what you mean by "correct the errors" and -~> > "signature verification stuff doesn't work". Would you mind to -~> > elaborate on that? -~> -~> I meant that when I did the firs

Re: [arch-general] Pacman makepkg and signatures

2011-10-25 Thread Steve Holmes
On 10/25/11, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote: > > I didn't understand what you mean by "correct the errors" and > "signature verification stuff doesn't work". Would you mind to > elaborate on that? I meant that when I did the first updates this morning, I got an eror on every package because the ke

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-25 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 25.10.2011 17:51, schrieb Tom Gundersen: > This is what I had in mind: > . Just two problems: 1) You overmount the initramfs' /usr for a short time. Nobody knows what that might lead to. 2) You mount /usr in read

Re: [arch-general] See the llvm volumes from GRUB console

2011-10-25 Thread Nyuszika7H
Hi Alfredo, If you've got a live CD, boot it up and execute the following commands: [root@archiso]# modprobe dm-mod [root@archiso]# vgscan Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while... Found volume group "YourVolGroup" using metadata type lvm2 [root@archiso]# vgchange -ay NUM logi

Re: [arch-general] Discussion on usage of [testing] repo - minimal requirements?

2011-10-25 Thread Myra Nelson
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:56, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: >> Say I want to try package X, but instead I download pkgs X, Y and Z from >> testing. Now my scripts which rely on /proc/.../BAT0/* fail because pkg Y is >> a >> new kernel, /dev/cdrom is

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] linux-3.1-1

2011-10-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > - disabled the old IDE subsystem, >  marked as deprecated for quite some time >  All users of the old ide hook in mkinitcpio >  should make the transition to pata hook now! Did Dan's patches (or equivalent) land in time for 3.1? I did no

[arch-general] See the llvm volumes from GRUB console

2011-10-25 Thread Alfredo Palhares
Hello, I upgarded a remote machine recently. And i got loocked out of the system. I still have acess to the machine trough serial console (KVM). Is there any way to list the lvm volumes from there ? Since my /dev/mapper/Root-root doesn't work. -- Regards, Alfredo Palhares

Re: [arch-general] Discussion on usage of [testing] repo - minimal requirements?

2011-10-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > Say I want to try package X, but instead I download pkgs X, Y and Z from > testing. Now my scripts which rely on /proc/.../BAT0/* fail because pkg Y is a > new kernel, /dev/cdrom is gone since pkg Z is udev. And all I wanted is to try > out ne

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:18 PM, clemens fischer wrote: > Thomas Bächler wrote: > >> No. Even if things fail entirely, we will provide a hook for >> mkinitcpio that mounts /usr before switching to the real root >> filesystem. This will eliminate all your potential bugs. However >> - this hook hasn

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:12 PM, clemens fischer wrote: > What patch would that be?  THE-FAVOURITE-SEARCH-ENGINE didn't pull > anything useful for "patch Thomas-Bächler busybox".  Can somebody point > us to the relevant code, please? Thomas is right, that is not strictly speaking needed (but see

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.1-1

2011-10-25 Thread Christian Hesse
Tobias Powalowski on Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:12:22 +0200: > Hi guys, > please signoff 3.1 series for both arches. > > Upstream > changes: > http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges > > Archlinux Changes: > - $(uname -r) reports now the full kernel version > - all external modules should be installed in

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] udev-174-1

2011-10-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:56 PM, clemens fischer wrote: > My system broke with udev-174-1.  I have rules renaming eth* according > to their MACs for consistency, guarding against dependency on > order-of-detection, plus rules to customize a wlan running on an USB > device.  These rules didn't run.

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.1-1

2011-10-25 Thread Alex Ferrando
Bootable and working on x86_64 laptop On Tue 25 Oct 2011 17:27:40 CEST, fredbezies wrote: 2011/10/25 Tobias Powalowski: Hi guys, please signoff 3.1 series for both arches. Upstream changes: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges Archlinux Changes: - $(uname -r) reports now the full kernel vers

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.1-1

2011-10-25 Thread Yuan
wow, cheers >> Yuan On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Tobias Powalowski < tobias.powalow...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi guys, > please signoff 3.1 series for both arches. > > Upstream > changes: > http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges > > Archlinux Changes: > - $(uname -r) reports now the fu

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.1-1

2011-10-25 Thread fredbezies
2011/10/25 Tobias Powalowski : > Hi guys, > please signoff 3.1 series for both arches. > > Upstream > changes: > http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges > > Archlinux Changes: > - $(uname -r) reports now the full kernel version > - all external modules should be installed in >  /lib/modules/extramodu

[arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.1-1

2011-10-25 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Hi guys, please signoff 3.1 series for both arches. Upstream changes: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges Archlinux Changes: - $(uname -r) reports now the full kernel version - all external modules should be installed in /lib/modules/extramodules-3.1-ARCH now - disabled the old IDE subsystem,

Re: [arch-general] Discussion on usage of [testing] repo - minimal requirements?

2011-10-25 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 19:38, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: -~> > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote: -~> >> On (10/24/11 18:00), Karol Blazewicz wrote: -~> >> -~> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: -~> >> -~> > Besides, one really doesn't have to enable testing in pacm

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-25 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 25.10.2011 16:19, schrieb Dwight Schauer: > Would the /usr location be determined when the initramfs is created, > or would it determine the location at runtime via /etc/fstab? Just > wanted to make sure it is the latter. Yes, you mounted root, so you can now look at fstab. > By label? Is that

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-25 Thread Dwight Schauer
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Mounting /usr needs to go to the initramfs. It is possible to implement > a mount handler for this. At this stage, the by-label symlinks exist > already. Would the /usr location be determined when the initramfs is created, or would it deter

Re: [arch-general] Pacman makepkg and signatures

2011-10-25 Thread Denis A . Altoé Falqueto
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 03:00:50PM +0200, fredbezies wrote: >> In /etc/pacman.conf, uncomment : >> >> SigLevel = Optional TrustAll > > Yeah, I saw that and understand that is appropriate for local > packages.  But now that I uncomment it, wha

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-25 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 25.10.2011 14:12, schrieb clemens fischer: >> We are currently working on adding support for the second approach, >> but we are not there yet (I have some patches against mkinitcpio to >> add this, but they rely on a patch by Thomas against busybox that has >> not yet landed upstream). > > What

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] udev-174-1

2011-10-25 Thread clemens fischer
'uname -rms' -> "Linux 3.0.7-spott x86_64" On Thu-2011/10/20-09:41 Myra Nelson wrote: > Error messages yes, but no warning about problems with the image and > the image is created and boots fine. Keeping up with the mailing list > makes all the difference in the world. My system broke with udev-

Re: [arch-general] Pacman makepkg and signatures

2011-10-25 Thread Steve Holmes
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 03:00:50PM +0200, fredbezies wrote: > In /etc/pacman.conf, uncomment : > > SigLevel = Optional TrustAll Yeah, I saw that and understand that is appropriate for local packages. But now that I uncomment it, what if I want to tighten up the sig tests in the future. How does

Re: [arch-general] Pacman makepkg and signatures

2011-10-25 Thread fredbezies
2011/10/25 Steve Holmes : > A slight variation here; I just upgraded to pacman 4 and did the > 'pacman-key --init' as directed but now I get validation errors for > all keys while doing a pacman -Syuw'. > > It looks like this. > error: vim-runtime: signature from "Eric Belanger > " is unknown trust

Re: [arch-general] Pacman makepkg and signatures

2011-10-25 Thread Steve Holmes
A slight variation here; I just upgraded to pacman 4 and did the 'pacman-key --init' as directed but now I get validation errors for all keys while doing a pacman -Syuw'. It looks like this. error: vim-runtime: signature from "Eric Belanger " is unknown trust I got this for every package I'm tryin

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-25 Thread clemens fischer
Thomas Bächler wrote: > No. Even if things fail entirely, we will provide a hook for > mkinitcpio that mounts /usr before switching to the real root > filesystem. This will eliminate all your potential bugs. However > - this hook hasn't been written yet. Imagine somebody with a desktop arch-linux

Re: [arch-general] /usr is not mounted. This is not supported.

2011-10-25 Thread clemens fischer
Tom Gundersen wrote: > From time to time we get bug reports that are really difficult to > debug, and that eventually turn out to be due to a separate /usr. Once > we figure out the cause, we usually end up having to say, sorry, there > is nothing we can do about that, but in the meantime we have

Re: [arch-general] Quiet Updates Lately

2011-10-25 Thread Steve Holmes
I probably mis-spelled the name in my message; but the fact that ibiblieo hadn't updated in ten days is a good enough explanation for me. Gonna change servers. thanks for the additional info. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 04:02:40PM +0200, Stefan Wilkens wrote: > bibleo.org doesn't appear in the curre