Re: [arch-general] KDE 4.7beta1 in [kde-unstable]

2011-05-25 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
On 05/25/2011 07:31 PM, Andrea Scarpino wrote: Hi all, the first beta of the new major release of KDE 4.7 is out and is already packaged in [kde-unstable]. That was quick! Works awesome here, in fact, a few of the quirks I experienced got fixed. Good job! -- Sven-Hendrik

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread cantabile
On 05/26/2011 07:28 AM, XeCycle wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:20:46PM -0300, Bernardo Barros wrote: Perhaps we may provide alternative kernels? With names like these, we may get a brand new project named "Arch Operating System", providing Linux, BSD, Hurd or even more as kernels, and users ar

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread XeCycle
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:20:46PM -0300, Bernardo Barros wrote: > Hi there, > > There are rumors that the next version number of the Linux Kernel is > going to be 3.0. > Since we choosed 'kernel26' as the package name, we will have to > modify it anyway. > Why not just 'linux 3.0'? Just an idea..

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Nick Savage
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 05:33:42PM +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote: > This is a non-issue. The package name was wrong all along, so why not > let it remain wrong? Why was the package named as it was? What were the reasons given when it was created? I've wondered this in the past, especially since othe

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.38.7-1

2011-05-25 Thread Bogdan Ionuț
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 22:03, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Upstream update. This package is NOT in testing (2.6.39 currently > resides there), but at: > http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/kernel26/ > > please signoff for both arches. > > greetings > tpowa > -- > Tobias Powalowski > Archlinux Develope

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Ray Rashif
On 26 May 2011 03:28, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > i know this topic is pretty much the definition of "bikeshed" ... but > i agree with the "linux" package ... i don't recall ever writing > `pacman -S sound` or `pacman -S make-my-monitors-have-a-gui-thingy` > :-D You are correct, bikeshed it is, a

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread jesse jaara
2011/5/25 Ray Rashif > On 26 May 2011 03:15, Mauro Santos wrote: > > On 25-05-2011 19:36, Ray Rashif wrote: > > > >> I agree. I'd like for the package to be called simply 'kernel'. That > >> fits in with our straightforward approach to package-naming (and > >> packaging in general). As long as w

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:09 PM, cantabile wrote: > On 05/25/2011 09:36 PM, Ray Rashif wrote: >> >> On 25 May 2011 23:38, Heiko Baums  wrote: >>> >>> Linux3.0 can easily cause misunderstandings as Linux is usually used as >>> a generic term for the whole system, the distros, etc. even if the >>> c

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Ray Rashif
On 26 May 2011 03:15, Mauro Santos wrote: > On 25-05-2011 19:36, Ray Rashif wrote: > >> I agree. I'd like for the package to be called simply 'kernel'. That >> fits in with our straightforward approach to package-naming (and >> packaging in general). As long as we can linguistically correlate the

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Jeff Andros
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:09 PM, cantabile wrote: > On 05/25/2011 09:36 PM, Ray Rashif wrote: > >> On 25 May 2011 23:38, Heiko Baums wrote: >> >>> Linux3.0 can easily cause misunderstandings as Linux is usually used as >>> a generic term for the whole system, the distros, etc. even if the >>> co

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Mauro Santos
On 25-05-2011 19:36, Ray Rashif wrote: > I agree. I'd like for the package to be called simply 'kernel'. That > fits in with our straightforward approach to package-naming (and > packaging in general). As long as we can linguistically correlate the > commands, for .eg: > > "I want a kernel for th

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread cantabile
On 05/25/2011 09:36 PM, Ray Rashif wrote: On 25 May 2011 23:38, Heiko Baums wrote: Linux3.0 can easily cause misunderstandings as Linux is usually used as a generic term for the whole system, the distros, etc. even if the correct naming of the whole system is GNU/Linux and Linux itself actually

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Ray Rashif
On 25 May 2011 23:38, Heiko Baums wrote: > Linux3.0 can easily cause misunderstandings as Linux is usually used as > a generic term for the whole system, the distros, etc. even if the > correct naming of the whole system is GNU/Linux and Linux itself > actually is only the kernel. I agree. I'd li

[arch-general] KDE 4.7beta1 in [kde-unstable]

2011-05-25 Thread Andrea Scarpino
Hi all, the first beta of the new major release of KDE 4.7 is out and is already packaged in [kde-unstable]. As you already know KDE is (slowly) moving to GIT; with this transition some KDE module has been splitted into subprojects, others modules will be splitted during this beta cycle and oth

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 25.05.2011 18:21, schrieb Yaro Kasear: > On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:14:55 Sander Jansen wrote: >> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Thomas Bächler > wrote: >>> Am 25.05.2011 17:43, schrieb jesse jaara: This is from recent kerbel mailing list post. A voice inside Torvals head is te

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:14:55 Sander Jansen wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > > Am 25.05.2011 17:43, schrieb jesse jaara: > >> This is from recent kerbel mailing list post. A voice inside Torvals > >> head is telling hin that it would be time to go for 3.0 v

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Sander Jansen
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 25.05.2011 17:43, schrieb jesse jaara: >> This is from recent kerbel mailing list post. A voice inside Torvals head is >> telling hin that it would be time to go for 3.0 versioning > > Everyone, don't get too excited. The reasons for "Li

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Ionut Biru
On 05/25/2011 06:53 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 25.05.2011 17:43, schrieb jesse jaara: This is from recent kerbel mailing list post. A voice inside Torvals head is telling hin that it would be time to go for 3.0 versioning Everyone, don't get too excited. The reasons for "Linux 3.0" are - "th

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Cédric Girard
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: > If the 3 will stand the the third decade (as the idea is to make a > system based on time not features), in 10 years we would have to > rename it again to 'kernel4'. > > :-) > But why the 26 or 30 is needed at the end of the package name?

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Bernardo Barros
Just 'linux' is the most pure and KISS choice. :-)

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Isaac Dupree
On 05/25/11 11:42, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Wed, 25 May 2011 17:38:33 +0200 schrieb Heiko Baums: I guess the best name is kernel30. Forgot to mention that the kernel package is called kernel... in every distro I know. BTW, Debian and Ubuntu switched to calling their linux-kernel-related packa

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Bernardo Barros
If the 3 will stand the the third decade (as the idea is to make a system based on time not features), in 10 years we would have to rename it again to 'kernel4'. :-)

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 25.05.2011 17:43, schrieb jesse jaara: > This is from recent kerbel mailing list post. A voice inside Torvals head is > telling hin that it would be time to go for 3.0 versioning Everyone, don't get too excited. The reasons for "Linux 3.0" are - "the numbers are getting too big" (2.6.40) - the

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On 05/25/2011 05:40 PM, Yaro Kasear wrote: On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:20:46 Bernardo Barros wrote: Hi there, There are rumors that the next version number of the Linux Kernel is going to be 3.0. Since we choosed 'kernel26' as the package name, we will have to modify it anyway. Why not just '

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread jesse jaara
This is from recent kerbel mailing list post. A voice inside Torvals head is telling hin that it would be time to go for 3.0 versioning

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Yaro Kasear wrote: > On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:20:46 Bernardo Barros wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> There are rumors that the next version number of the Linux Kernel is >> going to be 3.0. >> Since we choosed 'kernel26' as the package name, we will have to >> modify

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 25 May 2011 17:38:33 +0200 schrieb Heiko Baums : > I guess the best name is kernel30. Forgot to mention that the kernel package is called kernel... in every distro I know. Heiko

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Thomas S Hatch
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Yaro Kasear wrote: > On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:20:46 Bernardo Barros wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > There are rumors that the next version number of the Linux Kernel is > > going to be 3.0. > > Since we choosed 'kernel26' as the package name, we will have to > >

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:20:46 Bernardo Barros wrote: > Hi there, > > There are rumors that the next version number of the Linux Kernel is > going to be 3.0. > Since we choosed 'kernel26' as the package name, we will have to > modify it anyway. > Why not just 'linux 3.0'? Just an idea.. since

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 25 May 2011 17:26:19 +0200 schrieb Jelle van der Waa : > When the rumours are over and linux is going to release his first > rc1, then it would make sense to rename kernel26 to linux3.0. > Except that the lts version will be still kernel26-lts, so maybe > kernel3.0 would be better. I'm su

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 25.05.2011 17:20, schrieb Bernardo Barros: > Hi there, > > There are rumors that the next version number of the Linux Kernel is > going to be 3.0. > Since we choosed 'kernel26' as the package name, we will have to > modify it anyway. > Why not just 'linux 3.0'? Just an idea.. since we have the

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Thomas S Hatch
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Jelle van der Waa wrote: > On 05/25/2011 05:20 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> There are rumors that the next version number of the Linux Kernel is >> going to be 3.0. >> Since we choosed 'kernel26' as the package name, we will have to >> modify it

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On 05/25/2011 05:20 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: Hi there, There are rumors that the next version number of the Linux Kernel is going to be 3.0. Since we choosed 'kernel26' as the package name, we will have to modify it anyway. Why not just 'linux 3.0'? Just an idea.. since we have the fellow proj

Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Auguste Pop
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: > Hi there, > > There are rumors that the next version number of the Linux Kernel is > going to be 3.0. > Since we choosed 'kernel26' as the package name, we will have to > modify it anyway. > Why not just 'linux 3.0'? Just an idea.. since w

[arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'

2011-05-25 Thread Bernardo Barros
Hi there, There are rumors that the next version number of the Linux Kernel is going to be 3.0. Since we choosed 'kernel26' as the package name, we will have to modify it anyway. Why not just 'linux 3.0'? Just an idea.. since we have the fellow project 'Arch Hurd' providing 'hurd' as an alternativ

Re: [arch-general] upgrading startup-notification

2011-05-25 Thread Ionut Biru
On 05/25/2011 11:04 AM, F.Gr. wrote: Hi, the latest updated of startup-notification (0.10-2 -> 0.12-1) break some applications: e.g. claws-mail. Downgrading startup-notification has solved the issue. or my looking in the bugtracker and notice that is not a startup-notification bug. https:/

[arch-general] upgrading startup-notification

2011-05-25 Thread F.Gr.
Hi, the latest updated of startup-notification (0.10-2 -> 0.12-1) break some applications: e.g. claws-mail. Downgrading startup-notification has solved the issue. The following is the crash-log: *** Claws Mail version 3.7.9 GTK+ version 2.24.4 / GLib 2.28.7 Locale: it_IT.utf8 (charset: UTF-8) Fea