Re: [arch-general] Ye Olde Package Manager

2011-01-16 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Brendan Long wrote: > On 01/16/2011 03:10 AM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> >> ... do you actually _enjoy_ making packages?  do you like it >> when things break (even if not often, i'm not bashing arch developers >> or anyone else here) because of small version mism

Re: [arch-general] udev slow to start up

2011-01-16 Thread Alexander Lam
A potential solution would be to make udev startup in parallel - but this is kinda hacky because all your devices might not be ready in time for login or fsck or... you get what I mean. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Ty John (sand_man) wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm concerned about this line: > >

Re: [arch-general] Ye Olde Package Manager

2011-01-16 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 14:59 -0700, jwbirdsong wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/16/2011 12:43 PM, Brendan Long wrote: > {snip} > > > In general, if I need to make a package, I copy > > a random PKGBUILD from abs, change the top couple lines, and then set > > the b

Re: [arch-general] Problems to install bootchart

2011-01-16 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 18:23 -0300, Darío wrote: > Hi! i have a problem to install bootchart from pacman and open this file > type, because when i write tar -xzvf file.tar.gz the following message > appears: > error: 'bootchart': no se pudo encontrar o leer el paquete > (could not find or read the p

Re: [arch-general] Ye Olde Package Manager

2011-01-16 Thread jwbirdsong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/16/2011 12:43 PM, Brendan Long wrote: {snip} > In general, if I need to make a package, I copy > a random PKGBUILD from abs, change the top couple lines, and then set > the build section to: > Now sure why you would copy a existing (possibly O

[arch-general] Problems to install bootchart

2011-01-16 Thread Darío
Hi! i have a problem to install bootchart from pacman and open this file type, because when i write tar -xzvf file.tar.gz the following message appears: error: 'bootchart': no se pudo encontrar o leer el paquete (could not find or read the package) on yaourt -S bootchart conflicts for install acct:

Re: [arch-general] Pkgtools v22

2011-01-16 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 16:06, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:29:59 -0500 > Daenyth Blank wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I'm happy to announce that after a far-too-long wait, the latest >> version of pkgtools is released! This version is a complete rewrite >> from the ground up. The

Re: [arch-general] Pkgtools v22

2011-01-16 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:29:59 -0500 Daenyth Blank wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm happy to announce that after a far-too-long wait, the latest > version of pkgtools is released! This version is a complete rewrite > from the ground up. The slow parts have been rewritten in C for a huge > speed increase,

Re: [arch-general] Pkgtools v22

2011-01-16 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 13:24 -0600, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Daenyth Blank > wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I'm happy to announce that after a far-too-long wait, the latest > > version of pkgtools is released! This version is a complete rewrite > > from the ground up.

Re: [arch-general] Ye Olde Package Manager

2011-01-16 Thread Brendan Long
On 01/16/2011 03:10 AM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > yeah i've been around long enough to get the general vibe... but > really... do you actually _enjoy_ making packages? do you like it > when things break (even if not often, i'm not bashing arch developers > or anyone else here) because of small

Re: [arch-general] Pkgtools v22

2011-01-16 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 16.01.2011 19:29, schrieb Daenyth Blank: > Hi All, > > I'm happy to announce that after a far-too-long wait, the latest > version of pkgtools is released! This version is a complete rewrite > from the ground up. The slow parts have been rewritten in C for a huge > speed increase, and the body h

Re: [arch-general] Ye Olde Package Manager

2011-01-16 Thread Brendan Long
On 01/16/2011 08:16 AM, solsTiCe d'Hiver wrote: > You failed to mention than tar file are always compressed so this adds a > layer of failure. tar files are generally used in compression, but they do have other purposes. In this case the tar file is being used for the sole purpose of grouping files

Re: [arch-general] Pkgtools v22

2011-01-16 Thread Thomas Dziedzic
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Daenyth Blank wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm happy to announce that after a far-too-long wait, the latest > version of pkgtools is released! This version is a complete rewrite > from the ground up. The slow parts have been rewritten in C for a huge > speed increase, and

[arch-general] Pkgtools v22

2011-01-16 Thread Daenyth Blank
Hi All, I'm happy to announce that after a far-too-long wait, the latest version of pkgtools is released! This version is a complete rewrite from the ground up. The slow parts have been rewritten in C for a huge speed increase, and the body has been rewritten in python. Many thanks for brain0 and

Re: [arch-general] Ye Olde Package Manager

2011-01-16 Thread Frédéric Perrin
Le dimanche 16 à 13:52, Ng Oon-Ee a écrit : > On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 12:22 +0100, Frédéric Perrin wrote: >> Why would a database be more subject to corruption than a tar file, and >> harder to recover? > > An answer from an average user: I believe in tar files corruption would > only affect the file

Re: [arch-general] a python rewrite of pkgfile

2011-01-16 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 16.01.2011 17:16, schrieb Ionuț Bîru: > On 01/16/2011 05:54 PM, solsTiCe d'Hiver wrote: > >> By accident, on IRC, I learned that it was brain0 that wrote the module >> and picked it up on its git repo. I modifed my python code, and made >> addition to the C module. >> > > have you sent the cha

Re: [arch-general] a python rewrite of pkgfile

2011-01-16 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 11:26, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > Maybe you could provide the PKGBUILD in the AUR? I'll have the package pushed to community by the end of the day, so it shouldn't be needed.

Re: [arch-general] a python rewrite of pkgfile

2011-01-16 Thread Thomas Dziedzic
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 9:54 AM, solsTiCe d'Hiver wrote: > hi. > I started in August a rewrite in python of pkgfile from pkgtools > package. > > The idea was to speed it up and avoid the use of a tree of file and use > a sqlite3 db instead. > > I wrote it quickly and proposed a merge (on github) t

Re: [arch-general] a python rewrite of pkgfile

2011-01-16 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 01/16/2011 05:54 PM, solsTiCe d'Hiver wrote: By accident, on IRC, I learned that it was brain0 that wrote the module and picked it up on its git repo. I modifed my python code, and made addition to the C module. have you sent the changes to Thomas to incorporate in his git repo? -- Ionuț

Re: [arch-general] a python rewrite of pkgfile

2011-01-16 Thread solsTiCe d'Hiver
Le dimanche 16 janvier 2011 à 11:02 -0500, Daenyth Blank a écrit : > Wow, was it really way back in August? Wow... I started it. That last time we talked about it must have been in december though

Re: [arch-general] a python rewrite of pkgfile

2011-01-16 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:54, solsTiCe d'Hiver wrote: > hi. > I started in August a rewrite in python of pkgfile from pkgtools > package. Wow, was it really way back in August? Wow... It's been a really busy year for me. I'll try to get that release out today, since I have time. I've been sitting

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] libnl 2.0 rebuild

2011-01-16 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 15:33 +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 16.01.2011 15:25, schrieb Ng Oon-Ee: > > In reference to the below:- [testing] is still 'safe' for those using > > networkmanager? > > What I wrote was wrong, I pushed those packages to staging, not to testing. > > > In my understandin

[arch-general] a python rewrite of pkgfile

2011-01-16 Thread solsTiCe d'Hiver
hi. I started in August a rewrite in python of pkgfile from pkgtools package. The idea was to speed it up and avoid the use of a tree of file and use a sqlite3 db instead. I wrote it quickly and proposed a merge (on github) to Daenyth. He seems to respond well, reviewing the code. But then nothin

Re: [arch-general] Ye Olde Package Manager

2011-01-16 Thread solsTiCe d'Hiver
Le dimanche 16 janvier 2011 à 20:52 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee a écrit : > For a database which is necessarily more complicated, the whole > database may be a write-off. Database are more complicated and also more sophisticated. With mechanism to prevent losing data if corruption of file. So I would say,

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] libnl 2.0 rebuild

2011-01-16 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 16.01.2011 15:25, schrieb Ng Oon-Ee: > In reference to the below:- [testing] is still 'safe' for those using > networkmanager? What I wrote was wrong, I pushed those packages to staging, not to testing. > In my understanding libnl1 would work like libpng12 from > the AUR so it shouldn't stop w

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] libnl 2.0 rebuild

2011-01-16 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
In reference to the below:- [testing] is still 'safe' for those using networkmanager? In my understanding libnl1 would work like libpng12 from the AUR so it shouldn't stop working, is that correct? On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 15:18 +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: > > I am uploading i686 packages for the f

Re: [arch-general] Ye Olde Package Manager

2011-01-16 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 12:22 +0100, Frédéric Perrin wrote: > Le dimanche 16 à 2:01, Allan McRae a écrit : > > There has been low interest in a real database solution due to > > potential issues recovering from corrupt databases and with the > > additional dependencies. > > A question from a rando

Re: [arch-general] Syslinux Installer / Update Script - Testers Needed

2011-01-16 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:52:03 -0500 Matthew Gyurgyik wrote: > Hello Community, > > Over the last few weeks I have been working on Syslinux support for > the installer. With the help Thomas and Dieter I am nearing the > completion of this project. As part of this project, I have written a > script

Re: [arch-general] umask gnome

2011-01-16 Thread Frédéric Perrin
Le dimanche 16 à 7:22, Evangelos Foutras a écrit : > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Béla Vizer wrote: >> I put .bashrc and /etc/profiles the follwoing line: >> umask 077 >> I tried to put it to  /etc/gdm/Xsession, I created .gnomerc but nothing. >> Is it even possible to set a system-wide umask

Re: [arch-general] Ye Olde Package Manager

2011-01-16 Thread Frédéric Perrin
Le dimanche 16 à 2:01, Allan McRae a écrit : > There has been low interest in a real database solution due to > potential issues recovering from corrupt databases and with the > additional dependencies. A question from a random user (one that won't submit more patches than the average user): Wh

Re: [arch-general] Ye Olde Package Manager

2011-01-16 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Brendan Long wrote: > On 01/13/2011 12:12 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> leverage a revisioning system for package files instead of tarballs, >> even if only locally.  store metadata in a non-relational engine like >> couchdb (peer replicaition), or at least some

Re: [arch-general] umask gnome

2011-01-16 Thread Magnus Therning
On 16/01/11 06:22, Evangelos Foutras wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Béla Vizer wrote: >> I put .bashrc and /etc/profiles the follwoing line: >> umask 077 >> I tried to put it to /etc/gdm/Xsession, I created .gnomerc but nothing. >> Is it even possible to set a system-wide umask settin