Re: [arch-general] python3 thoughts

2010-11-17 Thread Cousin Stanley
Brendan Long wrote: > > References: > http://docs.python.org/library/2to3.html > http://diveintopython3.org/porting-code-to-python-3-with-2to3.html Another reference for things to consider when choosing Python2 or Python3 ... http://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3

Re: [arch-general] wicd startup issues

2010-11-17 Thread Samuel Baldwin
Fair enough, thanks for the input. -- Samuel Baldwin - logik.li

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 17 Nov 2010 07:41:01 -0600 schrieb Dan McGee : > Five step plan to success: > 1) Actually contribute instead of whining on a mailing list Is saying one's opinion whining? How long since? And, yes, I am already contributing in AUR, I've already written a split PKGBUILD for libreoffice-i18n

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 18 Nov 2010 02:01:11 +0800 schrieb Ng Oon-Ee : > And Gan Lu, I'm not sure which thread you've been following, but Heiko > specifically references something along the lines of "I may as well go > back to Gentoo". Have you really read only this half sentence? Or have you read all my argumen

Re: [arch-general] python3 thoughts

2010-11-17 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Alper KANAT wrote: > > That's nonsense. what is? py3k is nothing more than the completion and/or significant advancement of several items that began in the 2.x tree; this is not new information. > It's correct that Arch is an advanced user distribution but > yo

Re: [arch-general] wicd startup issues

2010-11-17 Thread Matthew Gyurgyik
On 11/17/2010 02:18 PM, Evangelos Foutras wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Samuel Baldwin wrote: Same error. I'm not updated to the point where python3 is the default anyways. `python' still runs 2.6.5. We don't support partial upgrades. You should never use -Sy if not followed by -Su

Re: [arch-general] wicd startup issues

2010-11-17 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Samuel Baldwin wrote: > Same error. I'm not updated to the point where python3 is the default > anyways. `python' still runs 2.6.5. We don't support partial upgrades. You should never use -Sy if not followed by -Su (or combined, -Syu). Now, go ahead and do a full

Re: [arch-general] wicd startup issues

2010-11-17 Thread Samuel Baldwin
Same error. I'm not updated to the point where python3 is the default anyways. `python' still runs 2.6.5. -- Samuel Baldwin - logik.li

Re: [arch-general] wicd startup issues

2010-11-17 Thread John K Pate
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 14:02 -0500, Samuel Baldwin wrote: > Also, when I run `python3' and type 'import wicd' I still get the same > error, so I'm sceptical of explaining it away as merely python3, > unless I'm missing something. Try it with `python2'. `wicd' expects python2, and `python' now calls

Re: [arch-general] wicd startup issues

2010-11-17 Thread Samuel Baldwin
Also, when I run `python3' and type 'import wicd' I still get the same error, so I'm sceptical of explaining it away as merely python3, unless I'm missing something. -- Samuel Baldwin - logik.li

Re: [arch-general] wicd startup issues

2010-11-17 Thread Samuel Baldwin
2010/11/17 John K Pate : > Did you "pacman -Sy" or "pacman -Syu"? Probably has to do with the move > to python3. Just `pacman -Sy', X seems to break when I update it and I'm down to one machine at the moment, haven't wanted to break the laptop for a day to figure out what's going on. Last time I j

Re: [arch-general] wicd startup issues

2010-11-17 Thread John K Pate
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 13:50 -0500, Samuel Baldwin wrote: > After a fresh install of wicd (I pacman -Sy'd yesterday), it won't > seem to start; not really sure what to do here. Did you "pacman -Sy" or "pacman -Syu"? Probably has to do with the move to python3. John == John K Pate Student, PhD In

Re: [arch-general] python3 thoughts

2010-11-17 Thread Alper KANAT
That's nonsense. It's correct that Arch is an advanced user distribution but you can't expect everyone to workaround each py application. Not everyone that use Arch are developers. --- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? 2010/11/12 C Anthony Risinger > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Auguste Pop

[arch-general] wicd startup issues

2010-11-17 Thread Samuel Baldwin
After a fresh install of wicd (I pacman -Sy'd yesterday), it won't seem to start; not really sure what to do here. arrakis^samuel# wicd Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/wicd/daemon/wicd-daemon.py", line 56, in from wicd import wpath ImportError: No module named wicd arra

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 16:47 +0100, Andrea Scarpino wrote: > On Wednesday 17 November 2010 16:37:41 甘露(Gan Lu) wrote: > > If some says "this is shame", "I'm leaving", > > "you suck", "developers are selfish", you could certainly discard > > them, but not I or Heiko, we just talk about our opinion.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] openssl 1.0.0.b-2

2010-11-17 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:46:54 +0100 Thorsten Töpper wrote: > On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:41:59 +1000 > Allan McRae wrote: > > On 17/11/10 16:43, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > > > On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:40:27 +0100, Pierre Schmitz > > > wrote: > > >> Side note: make test does no longer pass with this versio

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 16:37:41 甘露(Gan Lu) wrote: > If some says "this is shame", "I'm leaving", > "you suck", "developers are selfish", you could certainly discard > them, but not I or Heiko, we just talk about our opinion. > Does a great community contain only TU/devs? Does Arch is drive

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Gan Lu
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Dan McGee wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:31 AM, 甘露(Gan Lu) wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: >>> I know I'm crossposting this, but this rather belongs to arch-general >>> than to aur-general. >>> >>> Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:19:40 -0

Re: [arch-general] C++ program compiliation failed

2010-11-17 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On 11/17/2010 08:02 PM, csgeek wrote: not that I mind solving a nit picky c++ puzzle and tracking down a code bugbut.. isn't this completely off base/topic for this list? -- @csgeek I don't think so, as per the problem, I follow ANSI C++ and g++ won't compile the thing. I thought this wa

Re: [arch-general] C++ program compiliation failed

2010-11-17 Thread csgeek
not that I mind solving a nit picky c++ puzzle and tracking down a code bugbut.. isn't this completely off base/topic for this list? -- @csgeek On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Magnus Therning wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 16:10, Nilesh Govindarajan > wrote: > > On 11/16/2010 08:54

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Dan McGee
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:31 AM, 甘露(Gan Lu) wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: >> I know I'm crossposting this, but this rather belongs to arch-general >> than to aur-general. >> >> Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:19:40 -0500 >> schrieb Kaiting Chen : >> >>> I think it's kind of

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Gan Lu
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > I know I'm crossposting this, but this rather belongs to arch-general > than to aur-general. > > Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:19:40 -0500 > schrieb Kaiting Chen : > >> I think it's kind of hard for me to see why I should maintain a >> package that's

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Heiko Baums
I know I'm crossposting this, but this rather belongs to arch-general than to aur-general. Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:19:40 -0500 schrieb Kaiting Chen : > I think it's kind of hard for me to see why I should maintain a > package that's already been discarded by its developer. In my opinion > such pac

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] openssl 1.0.0.b-2

2010-11-17 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:41:59 +1000 Allan McRae wrote: > On 17/11/10 16:43, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:40:27 +0100, Pierre Schmitz > > wrote: > >> Side note: make test does no longer pass with this version. It > >> might be just the test itself that is broken though (tested