Re: [arch-general] no python3 package?

2010-10-19 Thread Angus
>> Hmm...  I probably should have added a version to the provides line in the >> python package.   Currently it only provides "python3" and not a version so >> the versioned deps in those AUR packages are causing issues.  I'll get >> around to that before this exits [testing] > > Um... did you

Re: [arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?

2010-10-19 Thread Max Countryman
Apologies, link cut in original quote: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-3000/2008-February/011910.html On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:58 PM, Max Countryman wrote: >> I failed to find a reference, but I seem to remember the Python team >> deciding at some point that they intended to keep the name

Re: [arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?

2010-10-19 Thread Max Countryman
> I failed to find a reference, but I seem to remember the Python team deciding > at some point that they intended to keep the name "python" for the Python 2.X > binaries perpetually, and require Python 3.X to be invoked as "python3". Arch > might be alone in making this change, and inconsistent

Re: [arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?

2010-10-19 Thread Allan McRae
On 20/10/10 10:25, Max Countryman wrote: First, thank you for the link, it's good to read a more fleshed out perspective. Of course, your own python scripts will need to point at /usr/bin/python2. However, by doing this you may run into portability issues across distros. There does not appear

Re: [arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?

2010-10-19 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Max Countryman wrote: > First, thank you for the link, it's good to read a more fleshed out > perspective. > >> Of course, your own python scripts will need to point at /usr/bin/python2. >> However, by doing this you may run into portability issues across distros

Re: [arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?

2010-10-19 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 20:36, Max Countryman wrote: > >> It seems that while most (all?) distributions include a /usr/bin/python3 >> link to their python3.xbinary, none do the same thing for python2.x. Either >> create your own symlink in your path for those distros or even better file a >> bu

Re: [arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?

2010-10-19 Thread Max Countryman
> It seems that while most (all?) distributions include a /usr/bin/python3 link > to their python3.xbinary, none do the same thing for python2.x. Either create > your own symlink in your path for those distros or even better file a bug > with them asking for such a symlink. They are going to ne

Re: [arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?

2010-10-19 Thread Max Countryman
First, thank you for the link, it's good to read a more fleshed out perspective. > Of course, your own python scripts will need to point at /usr/bin/python2. > However, by doing this you may run into portability issues across distros. > There does not appear to be an easy solution for that at th

Re: [arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?

2010-10-19 Thread Norbert Zeh
Andrea Scarpino [2010.10.20 0201 +0200]: > On Wednesday 20 October 2010 01:47:20 Max Countryman wrote: > > I'm curious what the rationale is behind changing the default to Python 3? > > > > My understanding is that many libraries are not yet available on Python 3. > > As a developer, this could ma

Re: [arch-general] Setuptools broken?

2010-10-19 Thread Dan McGee
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Ray Rashif wrote: > On 20 October 2010 07:25, Norbert Zeh wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> With the python upgrade from 2.7 to 3.1, I ran into the following snag. >> gitosis from AUR depends on python and setuptools.  Now, python = >> python3.1 now and setuptools install

Re: [arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?

2010-10-19 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Wednesday 20 October 2010 01:47:20 Max Countryman wrote: > I'm curious what the rationale is behind changing the default to Python 3? > > My understanding is that many libraries are not yet available on Python 3. > As a developer, this could make life difficult. You should read Allan's post[1]

[arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?

2010-10-19 Thread Max Countryman
I'm curious what the rationale is behind changing the default to Python 3? My understanding is that many libraries are not yet available on Python 3. As a developer, this could make life difficult. Regards, Max Countryman

Re: [arch-general] Setuptools broken?

2010-10-19 Thread Ray Rashif
On 20 October 2010 07:25, Norbert Zeh wrote: > Hi folks, > > With the python upgrade from 2.7 to 3.1, I ran into the following snag. > gitosis from AUR depends on python and setuptools.  Now, python = > python3.1 now and setuptools installs in the python2.7 library tree. > This was easy enough to

[arch-general] Setuptools broken?

2010-10-19 Thread Norbert Zeh
Hi folks, With the python upgrade from 2.7 to 3.1, I ran into the following snag. gitosis from AUR depends on python and setuptools. Now, python = python3.1 now and setuptools installs in the python2.7 library tree. This was easy enough to fix, by simply replacing python with python2 in the gitos

Re: [arch-general] pacman -Syu ==> NOT included depencies (with reasons): ...

2010-10-19 Thread David C. Rankin
On 10/18/2010 09:50 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 19/10/10 12:43, David C. Rankin wrote: >> Here is a new one for me >> >> A system update tonight provided the following note: >> >> ==> NOT included depencies(with reasons): >> - sidplay - we do not have sidplay 2 series in repos; also it's >>

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] PostgreSQL 9.0.1 in [testing]

2010-10-19 Thread Baho Utot
On 10/19/10 10:35, Dan McGee wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Jan Steffens wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Dan McGee wrote: Community feedback welcome as well, but this is now in testing now that the Python rebuild has moved on. Please let me know (good and bad) how things are

Re: [arch-general] python3 update

2010-10-19 Thread Nicolás Reynolds
El 19/10/10 07:13, Heiko Baums dijo: > Am Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:54:16 +0200 > schrieb Clément Démoulins : > > > Le 19/10/2010 16:50, Fess a écrit : > > > I think this is useful information: all soft installed from aur > > > need to be reinstalled with changing line like "python setup.py > > > blah-b

Re: [arch-general] python3 update

2010-10-19 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:54:16 +0200 schrieb Clément Démoulins : > Le 19/10/2010 16:50, Fess a écrit : > > I think this is useful information: all soft installed from aur > > need to be reinstalled with changing line like "python setup.py > > blah-blah" to line "python2 setup.py blah-blah". Because

Re: [arch-general] python3 update

2010-10-19 Thread C Anthony Risinger
2010/10/19 Clément Démoulins : > Le 19/10/2010 16:50, Fess a écrit : >> I think this is useful information: all soft installed from aur need to be >> reinstalled with changing line like "python setup.py blah-blah" to line >> "python2 setup.py blah-blah". Because some packages still aren't >> tou

Re: [arch-general] python3 update

2010-10-19 Thread Clément Démoulins
Le 19/10/2010 16:50, Fess a écrit : > I think this is useful information: all soft installed from aur need to be > reinstalled with changing line like "python setup.py blah-blah" to line > "python2 setup.py blah-blah". Because some packages still aren't touched(e.g. > charm). > So, something lik

[arch-general] python3 update

2010-10-19 Thread Fess
I think this is useful information: all soft installed from aur need to be reinstalled with changing line like "python setup.py blah-blah" to line "python2 setup.py blah-blah". Because some packages still aren't touched(e.g. charm). So, something like that. --

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] PostgreSQL 9.0.1 in [testing]

2010-10-19 Thread Dan McGee
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Dan McGee wrote: > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Jan Steffens wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Dan McGee wrote: >>> Community feedback welcome as well, but this is now in testing now >>> that the Python rebuild has moved on. Please let me know (good

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] PostgreSQL 9.0.1 in [testing]

2010-10-19 Thread Dan McGee
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Jan Steffens wrote: > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Dan McGee wrote: >> Community feedback welcome as well, but this is now in testing now >> that the Python rebuild has moved on. Please let me know (good and >> bad) how things are going with it so I can move i

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] PostgreSQL 9.0.1 in [testing]

2010-10-19 Thread Jan Steffens
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Jan Steffens wrote: > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Dan McGee wrote: >> Community feedback welcome as well, but this is now in testing now >> that the Python rebuild has moved on. Please let me know (good and >> bad) how things are going with it so I can move i

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] PostgreSQL 9.0.1 in [testing]

2010-10-19 Thread Jan Steffens
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Dan McGee wrote: > Community feedback welcome as well, but this is now in testing now > that the Python rebuild has moved on. Please let me know (good and > bad) how things are going with it so I can move it along to [extra]. Lots of stuff seems to be missing from

Re: [arch-general] Upgrading while using a package (WAS: Re: pacman -Syu -- then tons of kio and kbuildsycoca warnings. Bug or coincidence?)

2010-10-19 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > > It would appear that on Oct 14, Thomas Bächler did say: > >> My recommendations: >> 1) If you are upgrading your desktop environment, exit your session, >> quit your login manager and upgrade from the text console. I advise to >> r

Re: [arch-general] Upgrading while using a package (WAS: Re: pacman -Syu -- then tons of kio and kbuildsycoca warnings. Bug or coincidence?)

2010-10-19 Thread Joe(theWordy)Philbrook
It would appear that on Oct 14, Thomas Bächler did say: > My recommendations: > 1) If you are upgrading your desktop environment, exit your session, > quit your login manager and upgrade from the text console. I advise to > run pacman -Sywu from the desktop and when the download finishes, run > p

Re: [arch-general] GDM Locked

2010-10-19 Thread karl
On 06:51 Tue 19 Oct , Guillermo Leira wrote: > > After the last Pacman -Syu, I can't login with gdm. As soon as I clikc on my > > username, the system seems to freeze... Although not completely: I can ping > > from other computer, but I can't ssh. > > > > Before I click on the username, the "s

Re: [arch-general] GDM Locked

2010-10-19 Thread Cédric Girard
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:56 AM, karl wrote: > On 06:51 Tue 19 Oct , Guillermo Leira wrote: > > > After the last Pacman -Syu, I can't login with gdm. As soon as I clikc > on my > > > username, the system seems to freeze... Although not completely: I can > ping > > > from other computer, but

Re: [arch-general] GDM Locked

2010-10-19 Thread karl
On 06:51 Tue 19 Oct , Guillermo Leira wrote: > > After the last Pacman -Syu, I can't login with gdm. As soon as I clikc on my > > username, the system seems to freeze... Although not completely: I can ping > > from other computer, but I can't ssh. > > > > Before I click on the username, the "s