Re: [arch-general] Shouldn't pacman restart dovecot after update?

2010-08-02 Thread David C. Rankin
On 08/02/2010 11:59 PM, Nicolas D wrote: On Tuesday 03 August 2010 06:52:45 J. W. Birdsong wrote: Great point; but we could at least mention **Restart Dovecot with #/etc/rc.d/dovecot restart** (or some such msg) in the dovecot.install file.Because we know EVERYONE reads the pacman msg(s) af

Re: [arch-general] Shouldn't pacman restart dovecot after update?

2010-08-02 Thread David C. Rankin
On 08/02/2010 11:39 PM, Tavian Barnes wrote: Because of KISS? Pacman is a package manager, not a system administration tool. Imagine the story with a different daemon: SSH. You ssh into your box, su, and pacman -Syu. Halfway through the upgrade, openssh gets updated, which automatically resta

[arch-general] Interesting tidbit from other distros latest releases - kde3 is still there and maintained.

2010-08-02 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys, This is just a point of interest more than anything else. Many of you know I came to Arch from suse and one of the reasons was suse announced plan to eliminate kde3 in its 11.2 release in early 2009. Arch had chakra and it worked great so Arch was a great logical choice. It seems tha

[arch-general] Image my installed Arch into a USB pendrive

2010-08-02 Thread Martín Cigorraga
Hi, is possible to image my current Arch system into a USB pendrive and use it from there? Many thanks! Martín

Re: [arch-general] Shouldn't pacman restart dovecot after update?

2010-08-02 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 23:00 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > Guys, > > Sending mail from my local server resulted in errors "could not copy > sent mail > to 'sent' on servername? Checking the mail logs, I found this: > > > Aug 2 17:15:03 nirvana dovecot: imap-login: Fatal: Dovecot versio

Re: [arch-general] Shouldn't pacman restart dovecot after update?

2010-08-02 Thread Thomas Holmquist
You can restart openssh without being kicked off. "Tavian Barnes" wrote: >On 2 August 2010 22:00, David C. Rankin wrote: >> Guys, >> >>        Sending mail from my local server resulted in errors "could not copy >> sent mail to 'sent' on servername? Checking the mail logs, I found this: >> >>

Re: [arch-general] Shouldn't pacman restart dovecot after update?

2010-08-02 Thread Nicolas D
On Tuesday 03 August 2010 06:52:45 J. W. Birdsong wrote: > Great point; but we could at least mention **Restart Dovecot with > #/etc/rc.d/dovecot restart** (or some such msg) in the dovecot.install > file.Because we know EVERYONE reads the pacman msg(s) after an > install. Regardless I think

Re: [arch-general] Shouldn't pacman restart dovecot after update?

2010-08-02 Thread J. W. Birdsong
On 08/02/10 at 10:39pm, Tavian Barnes wrote: > On 2 August 2010 22:00, David C. Rankin > wrote: > > Guys, > > > >        Sending mail from my local server resulted in errors "could not copy > > sent mail to 'sent' on servername? Checking the mail logs, I found this: > > > > > > Aug  2 17:15:03 n

Re: [arch-general] Shouldn't pacman restart dovecot after update?

2010-08-02 Thread Tavian Barnes
On 2 August 2010 22:00, David C. Rankin wrote: > Guys, > >        Sending mail from my local server resulted in errors "could not copy > sent mail to 'sent' on servername? Checking the mail logs, I found this: > > > Aug  2 17:15:03 nirvana dovecot: imap-login: Fatal: Dovecot version > mismatch: M

[arch-general] Shouldn't pacman restart dovecot after update?

2010-08-02 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys, Sending mail from my local server resulted in errors "could not copy sent mail to 'sent' on servername? Checking the mail logs, I found this: Aug 2 17:15:03 nirvana dovecot: imap-login: Fatal: Dovecot version mismatch: Master is v1.2.12, login is v1.2.13 (if you don't care, set versi

Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 22:38 -0400, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > On 08/02/2010 06:44 PM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > Notices did go out on one of the lists (forgot which one) that the new > > tiered mirror scheme was coming into effect. > > Link? I don't recall seeing anything about that either here or on

[arch-general] Unificate login credentials in Arch's website

2010-08-02 Thread Martín Cigorraga
I don't know if this was addressed before, I'm sorry to say this and you'll probably hate me but it's something that get my attention: the authentication in Arch's website is, at least, very unefficient. At worst, it's directly against Arch's Way, I think (I'm not the best guy to say this, just giv

Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 08/02/2010 06:44 PM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: Notices did go out on one of the lists (forgot which one) that the new tiered mirror scheme was coming into effect. Link? I don't recall seeing anything about that either here or on the Arch announcements list. Thanks, DR

Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread Martín Cigorraga
Would be useful to put a script in cron using reflector to update mirrors say, once a week?

Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 10:40 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 08/02/2010 02:17 AM, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote: > > https://www.archlinux.de/?page=MirrorStatus > > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mirror > > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide#Mirrorcheck_for_up-to-date_packages >

[arch-general] howto fix log errors: avahi-daemon[1954]: Invalid query packet.

2010-08-02 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys, My logs have been filling up with avahi-daemon messages. The avahi errors always appear in groups of 3: Aug 2 16:05:03 nirvana avahi-daemon[1954]: Invalid query packet. Aug 2 16:05:03 nirvana avahi-daemon[1954]: Invalid query packet. Aug 2 16:05:03 nirvana avahi-daemon[1954]: Invalid

Re: [arch-general] Better NILFS2 Support

2010-08-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 2 Aug 2010 18:10:22 +0200 schrieb Dieter Plaetinck : > I think they mean keeping regular packages like usual, but just making > more packages part of the base group. > And like I said earlier, I don't see the point either. This indeed doesn't make much sense, too. I totally agree with you

Re: [arch-general] Better NILFS2 Support

2010-08-02 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 18:08:50 +0200 Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:31:47 +0200 > schrieb Pierre Chapuis : > > > Just for information, the opposite point of view recently came up on > > the suckless mailing-list: > > http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1007/5256.html > > > > I prefer Arch's

Re: [arch-general] Better NILFS2 Support

2010-08-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:31:47 +0200 schrieb Pierre Chapuis : > Just for information, the opposite point of view recently came up on > the suckless mailing-list: > http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1007/5256.html > > I prefer Arch's approach but it is probably true that a large base > system reduces th

Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread David C. Rankin
On 08/02/2010 02:17 AM, Burlynn Corlew Jr wrote: https://www.archlinux.de/?page=MirrorStatus http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mirror http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide#Mirrorcheck_for_up-to-date_packages It is possible your current installed package list has had no updates,

Re: [arch-general] arch-dev-public misleading

2010-08-02 Thread Peter Lewis
On Monday 02 Aug 2010 at 15:50 Firmicus wrote: > On 31/07/2010 14:00, Thomas Bächler wrote: > > Am 31.07.2010 13:30, schrieb jesse jaara: > >> The name and description of the arch-dev-public mailing list are > >> extreamly misleading, for me personally the name and description tells > >> that th

Re: [arch-general] makepkg patch - generate .SRCINFO file when running "--source"

2010-08-02 Thread Loui Chang
On Mon 02 Aug 2010 17:03 +0200, vlad wrote: > On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 08:49:11AM -0400, Loui Chang wrote: > > On Tue 27 Jul 2010 15:25 +0200, vlad wrote: > > > Here is a patch against makepkg from git which introduces a new > > > function "write_srcinfo()". This generates a file .SRCINFO - like > >

Re: [arch-general] makepkg patch - generate .SRCINFO file when running "--source"

2010-08-02 Thread Dan McGee
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:03 AM, vlad wrote: > On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 08:49:11AM -0400, Loui Chang wrote: >> On Tue 27 Jul 2010 15:25 +0200, vlad wrote: >> > Here is a patch against makepkg from git which introduces a new function >> > "write_srcinfo()". This generates a file .SRCINFO - like the

Re: [arch-general] makepkg patch - generate .SRCINFO file when running "--source"

2010-08-02 Thread vlad
On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 08:49:11AM -0400, Loui Chang wrote: > On Tue 27 Jul 2010 15:25 +0200, vlad wrote: > > Here is a patch against makepkg from git which introduces a new function > > "write_srcinfo()". This generates a file .SRCINFO - like the .PKGINFO > > one - when "makepkg --source" is run a

Re: [arch-general] arch-dev-public misleading

2010-08-02 Thread Firmicus
On 31/07/2010 14:00, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 31.07.2010 13:30, schrieb jesse jaara: The name and description of the arch-dev-public mailing list are extreamly misleading, for me personally the name and description tells that the list is open for everyone to discuss about development of Arch L

Re: [arch-general] Better NILFS2 Support

2010-08-02 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:31:47 +0200 Pierre Chapuis wrote: > On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 16:58:00 +0200, Dieter Plaetinck > wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 16:46:33 +0200 > > Heiko Baums wrote: > > > >> I don't think that nilfs-utils should be moved to the base group. I > >> agree with moving it to [core]

Re: [arch-general] Better NILFS2 Support

2010-08-02 Thread Pierre Chapuis
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 16:58:00 +0200, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 16:46:33 +0200 > Heiko Baums wrote: > >> I don't think that nilfs-utils should be moved to the base group. I >> agree with moving it to [core] but not to base, because base is >> assumed to be installed on every comp

Re: [arch-general] makepkg patch - generate .SRCINFO file when running "--source"

2010-08-02 Thread Loui Chang
On Tue 27 Jul 2010 15:25 +0200, vlad wrote: > Here is a patch against makepkg from git which introduces a new function > "write_srcinfo()". This generates a file .SRCINFO - like the .PKGINFO > one - when "makepkg --source" is run and then it is added to the src.tar.gz > archive. > I think having s

Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread Peter Lewis
On Monday 02 Aug 2010 at 08:48 Kazuo Teramoto wrote: > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Peter Lewis wrote: > > thread just prompted me to check and yeah I hadn't had anything for at > > least a few days. I just did a sort of Monte-Carlo test, by switching > > mirrors in /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist and

Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread Guillermo Leira
> -Mensaje original- > De: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org [mailto:arch-general- > boun...@archlinux.org] En nombre de Peter Lewis > Enviado el: lunes, 02 de agosto de 2010 9:33 > Para: arch-general@archlinux.org > Asunto: Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered

Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread Kazuo Teramoto
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Peter Lewis wrote: > thread just prompted me to check and yeah I hadn't had anything for at least > a few days. I just did a sort of Monte-Carlo test, by switching mirrors in > /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist and suddenly got a whole load of updates. Well... we dont have

Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread Peter Lewis
On Monday 02 Aug 2010 at 08:24 Robert Howard wrote: > I've noticed the same thing. No updates in a week. Very unusual for the > packages I use. This thread just prompted me to check and yeah I hadn't had anything for at least a few days. I just did a sort of Monte-Carlo test, by switching mirrors

Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert Howard
I've noticed the same thing. No updates in a week. Very unusual for the packages I use. On Aug 2, 2010 3:17 AM, "Burlynn Corlew Jr" wrote: > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:37 AM, David C. Rankin < > drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote: > >> Guys, >> >> It is rare I go a week without some type of upd

Re: [arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?

2010-08-02 Thread Burlynn Corlew Jr
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:37 AM, David C. Rankin < drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote: > Guys, > >It is rare I go a week without some type of update. My last update > was: > > [2010-07-25 04:49] upgraded wavegain (1.2.8-1 -> 1.2.8-2) > > Looking at archdev-public, there is a 7/24 "no mo