Re: [arch-general] Kudos to the Arch devs!

2010-06-21 Thread Brendan Long
On 06/21/2010 09:40 PM, Gaurish Sharma wrote: > Hi, > I would be interested to know your experience of running arch as > server os. running I use distros like debian,CentOS etc. till now I > have been scared of running arch as server. > > Please share your experience > > > Regards, > Gaurish Sharma

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-21 Thread Dan McGee
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:27 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Allan McRae wrote: >> On 22/06/10 12:07, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >>> >>> my point of this ramble if there is one, is that personally, i don't >>> want _anyone_ other than upstream to make security de

Re: [arch-general] Kudos to the Arch devs!

2010-06-21 Thread Gaurish Sharma
Hi, I would be interested to know your experience of running arch as server os. running I use distros like debian,CentOS etc. till now I have been scared of running arch as server. Please share your experience Regards, Gaurish Sharma

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-21 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 22/06/10 12:07, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> >> my point of this ramble if there is one, is that personally, i don't >> want _anyone_ other than upstream to make security decisions regarding >> their software.if Arch started naively backpor

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-21 Thread Allan McRae
On 22/06/10 12:07, C Anthony Risinger wrote: my point of this ramble if there is one, is that personally, i don't want _anyone_ other than upstream to make security decisions regarding their software.if Arch started naively backporting stuff based of > the latest alert from XYZ, i wouldn't be st

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-21 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Andres P wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:17 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> He said from git/svn... ie backporting, not contributing. >> > > ...? > > Once they're in svn they're confined to abs? Besides, it's not like there's > anything keeping upstream from l

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-21 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 18:47 -0500, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > On Jun 21, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Andres P wrote: > > > 2010/6/21 Ng Oon-Ee : > >> bugs with upstream, which may not be the case with 5-10 security- > >> patches > >> from git/svn). > > > > This is just pessimistic outlook. Having patches

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-21 Thread Andres P
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:17 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > He said from git/svn... ie backporting, not contributing. > ...? Once they're in svn they're confined to abs? Besides, it's not like there's anything keeping upstream from looking at obsd cvs, Debian's bug tracker, nor Arch's svn repo,

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-21 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Jun 21, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Andres P wrote: > 2010/6/21 Ng Oon-Ee : >> bugs with upstream, which may not be the case with 5-10 security- >> patches >> from git/svn). > > This is just pessimistic outlook. Having patches means that you're > actually > contributing upstream instead of leaching the

[arch-general] Kudos to the Arch devs!

2010-06-21 Thread David C. Rankin
Devs, As mentioned earlier, after my HD tanked, I did my first Gnome only install using the Arch 2010-05 install media. Except for my FU forgetting mkswap, the install is picture perfect. Further, since the radeon/dri/mesa modules are mature enough that they handle gpu downclocking during

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-21 Thread Andres P
2010/6/21 Ng Oon-Ee : > bugs with upstream, which may not be the case with 5-10 security-patches > from git/svn). This is just pessimistic outlook. Having patches means that you're actually contributing upstream instead of leaching the latest ver every 3 weeks. People need to stop with the notion

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-21 Thread Ananda Samaddar
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:11:25 +0800 Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > I'd still like to know how this replaces/conflicts with Arch policy > for 'as upstream as possible'. I'm aware that just starting out the > answer may just be "we don't know yet", but for me one of the > benefits of Arch is that all packages a

Re: [arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-21 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 19:28 +0100, Ananda Samaddar wrote: > 5. LONG TERM GOALS > > Most Arch stuff starts out as external projects than then merge with > the main distro. If our work turns out to be useful, and I hope it > will be, I would like us to become an official Arch Team. We could > the

Re: [arch-general] vala pkgbuild

2010-06-21 Thread Damien Churchill
On 21 June 2010 22:58, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > If you are interested about vala, you can upload it aur as vala-devel > I may do that so gnome-dvb-daemon can be updated. Although the only reason I wanted to give the new version of that a try (built both vala and gnome-dvb-daemon locally) was to see if

Re: [arch-general] vala pkgbuild

2010-06-21 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 06/22/2010 12:55 AM, Damien Churchill wrote: On 21 June 2010 22:49, Ionuț Bîru wrote: On 06/22/2010 12:46 AM, Damien Churchill wrote: Since vala 0.9.2 is now out I figured I'd update the PKGBUILD for it, just a simple version bump and sha256sum update. http://pastie.org/1014264 is not l

Re: [arch-general] vala pkgbuild

2010-06-21 Thread Damien Churchill
On 21 June 2010 22:49, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > On 06/22/2010 12:46 AM, Damien Churchill wrote: >> >> Since vala 0.9.2 is now out I figured I'd update the PKGBUILD for it, >> just a simple version bump and sha256sum update. >> >> http://pastie.org/1014264 > > is not like is hard to update the build, is

Re: [arch-general] vala pkgbuild

2010-06-21 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 06/22/2010 12:46 AM, Damien Churchill wrote: Since vala 0.9.2 is now out I figured I'd update the PKGBUILD for it, just a simple version bump and sha256sum update. http://pastie.org/1014264 is not like is hard to update the build, is more like it doesn't fit in our principle to bump to a d

[arch-general] vala pkgbuild

2010-06-21 Thread Damien Churchill
Since vala 0.9.2 is now out I figured I'd update the PKGBUILD for it, just a simple version bump and sha256sum update. http://pastie.org/1014264

Re: [arch-general] Do I need HAL?

2010-06-21 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 09:21:39PM +0200, "Jérôme M. Berger" wrote: > > After an upgrade, it will remain on your system if you do a pacman -Qdt > > > According to that rule, I don't need xorg-server !??? Some packages > are missing a dep here, I think... That's correct. Only few packages ac

Re: [arch-general] Gnome clock

2010-06-21 Thread Ignacio Galmarino
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > On 06/21/2010 10:22 PM, Ignacio Galmarino wrote: >> >> After updating my system today and logging into gnome i get a dialog >> with the following error: >> >> The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet". >> >> and im

Re: [arch-general] Gnome clock

2010-06-21 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 06/21/2010 10:22 PM, Ignacio Galmarino wrote: After updating my system today and logging into gnome i get a dialog with the following error: The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet". and im offered the option to delete the clock applet. Any idea what goes wro

Re: [arch-general] Gnome clock

2010-06-21 Thread Rafael Correia
Have you tried to reinstall libsoup? -- Rafael Correia 2010/6/21 Ignacio Galmarino > > After updating my system today and logging into gnome i get a dialog > with the following error: > > The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet". > > and im offered the option to d

Re: [arch-general] Gnome clock

2010-06-21 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On 21/06/10 22:22, Ignacio Galmarino wrote: After updating my system today and logging into gnome i get a dialog with the following error: The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet". and im offered the option to delete the clock applet. Any idea what goes wrong ?

[arch-general] Gnome clock

2010-06-21 Thread Ignacio Galmarino
After updating my system today and logging into gnome i get a dialog with the following error: The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet". and im offered the option to delete the clock applet. Any idea what goes wrong ? Ignacio

Re: [arch-general] Do I need HAL?

2010-06-21 Thread Jérôme M. Berger
Matthew Monaco wrote: > On 06/21/2010 06:35 AM, Guillermo Leira wrote: >> Hi, >> >> How can I know if I still need HAL? >> >> Best regards, >> >> Guillermo Leira >> > After an upgrade, it will remain on your system if you do a pacman -Qdt > According to that rule, I don't need xorg-server

Re: [arch-general] Weird problem with firefox

2010-06-21 Thread Corey Johns
It's not browser specific by the way, it happens on various sites on different browsers on different OSes: for example, I got stuck in a loop trying to go to Google Docs in Chrome on Windows. I'm going to say it's probably a bug in their login system. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Ionuț Bîru w

[arch-general] Important notice on the Arch Security Team to the whole Arch Linux community.

2010-06-21 Thread Ananda Samaddar
Dear Arch community, I thought I'd post a follow up on some of the things said in the last thread I created on this list. I'm using upper case for headings just to make things easier to read and not to shout! Please post or cc all follow ups to the Arch General list, and read this message carefu

[arch-general] Another weird problem with firefox

2010-06-21 Thread fons
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 08:16:27PM +0300, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > just cleaned my profile(cookies, cache and active logins). seems > that now is working I've noticed another weird thing with firefox: when typing in the 'search' field (right top), quite frequently the desktop session ends and I find m

Re: [arch-general] New Arch Install - Swap Won't Activate - Help the clueless?

2010-06-21 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On 06/21/2010 10:47 PM, Baho Utot wrote: On 06/21/10 12:33, David C. Rankin wrote: Guys, I'm laughing at myself for being unable to get swap activated. Initially, when I breezed through the install, I forgot to set /dev/sdb6 to type 82 so the box came up with swap off (2G of ram so not much of

Re: [arch-general] New Arch Install - Swap Won't Activate - Help the clueless?

2010-06-21 Thread Baho Utot
On 06/21/10 12:33, David C. Rankin wrote: Guys, I'm laughing at myself for being unable to get swap activated. Initially, when I breezed through the install, I forgot to set /dev/sdb6 to type 82 so the box came up with swap off (2G of ram so not much of an issue) But now, I wan

Re: [arch-general] Weird problem with firefox

2010-06-21 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 06/21/2010 07:57 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On 06/21/2010 10:20 PM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: On 06/21/2010 07:47 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: When I try to use google groups on firefox, it keeps redirecting in a loop. groups.google.com homepage loads, then when I click on any group, it goes t

Re: [arch-general] New Arch Install - Swap Won't Activate - Help the clueless?

2010-06-21 Thread David C. Rankin
>> >> mkswap /dev/sdb6 >> echo "/dev/sdb6 swap swap defaults 0 0" >> /etc/fstab >> > swapon -av > Thanks to all. That loud 'POP!' you heard was the CRI being cured. (for the curious, CRI=Cranal Rectal Inversion) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoc

Re: [arch-general] Weird problem with firefox

2010-06-21 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On 06/21/2010 10:20 PM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: On 06/21/2010 07:47 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: When I try to use google groups on firefox, it keeps redirecting in a loop. groups.google.com homepage loads, then when I click on any group, it goes to google's ssl for login validation, then back to gr

Re: [arch-general] Weird problem with firefox

2010-06-21 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 06/21/2010 07:47 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: When I try to use google groups on firefox, it keeps redirecting in a loop. groups.google.com homepage loads, then when I click on any group, it goes to google's ssl for login validation, then back to groups then again to ssl... keeps going on.

Re: [arch-general] New Arch Install - Swap Won't Activate - Help the clueless?

2010-06-21 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On 06/21/2010 10:19 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On 06/21/2010 10:03 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: Guys, I'm laughing at myself for being unable to get swap activated. Initially, when I breezed through the install, I forgot to set /dev/sdb6 to type 82 so the box came up with swap off (2G of ram

Re: [arch-general] New Arch Install - Swap Won't Activate - Help the clueless?

2010-06-21 Thread David C. Rankin
On 06/21/2010 11:35 AM, Dan McGee wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:33 AM, David C. Rankin > wrote: >> Guys, >> >>I'm laughing at myself for being unable to get swap activated. >> Initially, when >> I breezed through the install, I forgot to set /dev/sdb6 to type 82 so the >> box >> ca

Re: [arch-general] New Arch Install - Swap Won't Activate - Help the clueless?

2010-06-21 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On 06/21/2010 10:03 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: Guys, I'm laughing at myself for being unable to get swap activated. Initially, when I breezed through the install, I forgot to set /dev/sdb6 to type 82 so the box came up with swap off (2G of ram so not much of an issue) But now,

[arch-general] Weird problem with firefox

2010-06-21 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
When I try to use google groups on firefox, it keeps redirecting in a loop. groups.google.com homepage loads, then when I click on any group, it goes to google's ssl for login validation, then back to groups then again to ssl... keeps going on. What can be the problem ? -- Regards, Nilesh Gov

Re: [arch-general] New Arch Install - Swap Won't Activate - Help the clueless?

2010-06-21 Thread Gmail
David C. Rankin kirjoitti maanantai, 21. kesäkuuta 2010 19:33:18: > Guys, > > I'm laughing at myself for being unable to get swap activated. > Initially, > when I breezed through the install, I forgot to set /dev/sdb6 to type 82 > so the box came up with swap off (2G of ram so not much of a

Re: [arch-general] New Arch Install - Swap Won't Activate - Help the clueless?

2010-06-21 Thread Dan McGee
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:33 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: > Guys, > >        I'm laughing at myself for being unable to get swap activated. > Initially, when > I breezed through the install, I forgot to set /dev/sdb6 to type 82 so the box > came up with swap off (2G of ram so not much of an issue)

[arch-general] New Arch Install - Swap Won't Activate - Help the clueless?

2010-06-21 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys, I'm laughing at myself for being unable to get swap activated. Initially, when I breezed through the install, I forgot to set /dev/sdb6 to type 82 so the box came up with swap off (2G of ram so not much of an issue) But now, I want to activate it and I get an error activati

Re: [arch-general] Do I need HAL?

2010-06-21 Thread Jeffrey Lynn Parke Jr.
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Ananda Samaddar wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:35:23 +0200 > "Guillermo Leira" wrote: > > > > >>> WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ? > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> Not for X. You may still need it for other things... > > > >> > > > >> Allan > > > >> > > > > Mo

[arch-general] xterm letters show up with strange bars

2010-06-21 Thread PT M.
In fact this happeded weeks before, maybe after upgrading to xorg1.8, when typing in xterm, it left with each letter with an annoying vertical line. [see the image attached] I believe this has something to do with compiz-wm, if I switch to the other window and switch back, those lines gone, but s

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Xorg 1.8 moves to extra

2010-06-21 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On 06/21/2010 07:05 PM, 甘露(Gan Lu) wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: On 06/21/2010 06:34 AM, jwbirdsong wrote: On 06/20/2010 09:13 PM, Allan McRae wrote: On 21/06/10 13:04, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On 06/21/2010 02:31 AM, Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Andreas

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Xorg 1.8 moves to extra

2010-06-21 Thread Gan Lu
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > On 06/21/2010 06:34 AM, jwbirdsong wrote: >> >> On 06/20/2010 09:13 PM, Allan McRae wrote: >>> >>> On 21/06/10 13:04, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On 06/21/2010 02:31 AM, Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Andreas Radke wrote: > >

Re: [arch-general] Do I need HAL?

2010-06-21 Thread Guillermo Leira
> > How can I know if I still need HAL? > > > > run "/etc/rc.d/hal stop" and remove it from your DAEMONS array. If > stuff breaks, you needed it. > > Allan Thank you very much to all. :-) I'll have to mix all the answers: I have systems with XFCE and GNOME, physical and virtual... I'll check

Re: [arch-general] Do I need HAL?

2010-06-21 Thread Gmail
Im not 100% sure if KDE will work whit out hall, but KDE doesent use hal directly instead it uses the Solid framework of KDE. Solid isint dependant of one spesific bacend, but its like phonon so you can have multiple differend back ends whit it. i do not have any Idea of the state of differend

Re: [arch-general] Do I need HAL?

2010-06-21 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 06:46:13AM -0400, Matthew Monaco wrote: > >How can I know if I still need HAL? > [...] > After an upgrade, it will remain on your system if you do a pacman -Qdt ... which will, however, only work if hal hasn't been installed explicitly and will also disregard optdeps. If y

Re: [arch-general] Do I need HAL?

2010-06-21 Thread PT M.
$ pacman -Qi hal Name : hal Version: 0.5.14-4 . Required By: gnome-vfs vlc . On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Ananda Samaddar wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:35:23 +0200 > "Guillermo Leira" wrote: > > > > >>> WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ? > > > >

Re: [arch-general] Do I need HAL?

2010-06-21 Thread Ananda Samaddar
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:35:23 +0200 "Guillermo Leira" wrote: > > >>> WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ? > > >>> > > >> > > >> Not for X. You may still need it for other things... > > >> > > >> Allan > > >> > > > Most notabaly KDE and Thunar > > > > and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to h

Re: [arch-general] Do I need HAL?

2010-06-21 Thread Allan McRae
On 21/06/10 20:35, Guillermo Leira wrote: WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ? Not for X. You may still need it for other things... Allan Most notabaly KDE and Thunar and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support Hi, How can I know if I still need HAL?

Re: [arch-general] Do I need HAL?

2010-06-21 Thread Matthew Monaco
On 06/21/2010 06:35 AM, Guillermo Leira wrote: WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ? Not for X. You may still need it for other things... Allan Most notabaly KDE and Thunar and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support Hi, How can I know if I still need HAL

[arch-general] Do I need HAL?

2010-06-21 Thread Guillermo Leira
> >>> WOW nice. So HAL is not needed anymore ? > >>> > >> > >> Not for X. You may still need it for other things... > >> > >> Allan > >> > > Most notabaly KDE and Thunar > > and in gnome with gnome-power-manager to have some special keys support Hi, How can I know if I still need HAL? Best rega

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Xorg 1.8 moves to extra

2010-06-21 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 06/21/2010 06:34 AM, jwbirdsong wrote: On 06/20/2010 09:13 PM, Allan McRae wrote: On 21/06/10 13:04, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On 06/21/2010 02:31 AM, Arch Linux: Recent news updates: Andreas Radke wrote: Andreas Radke wrote: This release works with udev for input hotplugging and supports

Re: [arch-general] REG_RIP undeclared

2010-06-21 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
I still see the problem. Is it possible that it's bug in GCC? Lukas

Re: [arch-general] Boost

2010-06-21 Thread Jan de Groot
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 23:56 +0200, Alexander Duscheleit wrote: > But there seems to be a trend starting in this direction which worries > me a little. IIRC there is nothing holding back Xorg 1.8 except for > legacy nvidia drivers, and that for quite a while. If that is true, > it's even more depre