Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] package signoffs

2010-02-09 Thread Gaurish Sharma
> > maybe give the status of testers to some active arch members who use > testing (if any users are interested at all..) > +1 to the idea. this work can be delegated to active users who have enabled [testing] repo. a special status can be given to them with a fancy name like "Package Quality & Te

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [LAU] A sound decision]

2010-02-09 Thread Ray Rashif
On 10 February 2010 07:03, wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 06:46:06AM +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > >> Forwarding the below, for those interested. fons, you'd maybe like this? > > Already saw it on the Linux Audio lists, but thanks anyway ! > Of course I like this ! If it's Songshop we're talking a

Re: [arch-general] policykit vs polkit

2010-02-09 Thread Damjan Georgievski
> I just checked upstream and Fedora: > either the pulseaudio package in community is outdated, or it contains a > bullshit dependency. it's a wrong dependency (together with some other) I've already submited a bug report. http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18258 -- damjan

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] New Developer: Dan Griffiths

2010-02-09 Thread Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227)
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Ray Rashif wrote: > On 10 February 2010 08:04, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) > wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Ray Rashif wrote: >>> On 10 February 2010 06:10, Qadri wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Tue,

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] New Developer: Dan Griffiths

2010-02-09 Thread Ray Rashif
On 10 February 2010 08:04, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Ray Rashif wrote: >> On 10 February 2010 06:10, Qadri wrote: >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Aaron Griffin >>> wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227)

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] New Developer: Dan Griffiths

2010-02-09 Thread Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227)
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Ray Rashif wrote: > On 10 February 2010 06:10, Qadri wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Aaron Griffin >> wrote: >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) >>> wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Gaurish Sharma wrote:

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] New Developer: Dan Griffiths

2010-02-09 Thread Ray Rashif
On 10 February 2010 06:10, Qadri wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) >> wrote: >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Gaurish Sharma >>> wrote: Congrats Dan! So what should we expect from you? any

Re: [arch-general] policykit vs polkit

2010-02-09 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 00:04 +0100, Jan de Groot wrote: > policykit and policykit-gnome will die soon. At this moment only > pulseaudio in community uses it, but I'm sure someone has ported that > to polkit also. I just checked upstream and Fedora: either the pulseaudio package in community is outd

Re: [arch-general] policykit vs polkit

2010-02-09 Thread Ionut Biru
On 02/10/2010 01:04 AM, Jan de Groot wrote: On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 19:17 +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 09.02.2010 19:11, schrieb Lukáš Jirkovský: Hi, I just found out that policykit on my package is no longer needed. Because it looked strange to me a took a look at other packages and found pol

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [LAU] A sound decision]

2010-02-09 Thread fons
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 06:46:06AM +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > Forwarding the below, for those interested. fons, you'd maybe like this? Already saw it on the Linux Audio lists, but thanks anyway ! Of course I like this ! -- FA O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte !

Re: [arch-general] policykit vs polkit

2010-02-09 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 19:17 +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 09.02.2010 19:11, schrieb Lukáš Jirkovský: > > Hi, > > I just found out that policykit on my package is no longer needed. > > Because it looked strange to me a took a look at other packages and > > found polkit package. What is the diffe

[arch-general] [Fwd: [LAU] A sound decision]

2010-02-09 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
Forwarding the below, for those interested. fons, you'd maybe like this? Forwarded Message > To: linux-audio-u...@lists.linuxaudio.org > Subject: [LAU] A sound decision > Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:26:36 -0200 > > http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/36698-from-wi

Re: [arch-general] [patch] AIF, partition table compatibility with grub2.

2010-02-09 Thread Mark Pustjens
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:26:45 +0100 (CET) Mark Pustjens wrote: Hi list, The attatched patch adds the `-D' option to the sfdisk call. This causes some extra space to be saved for the MBR, which is needed for grub2 in some cases. Please let me know wh

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] New Developer: Dan Griffiths

2010-02-09 Thread Qadri
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) > wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Gaurish Sharma >> wrote: >>> Congrats Dan! >>> So what should we expect from you? any special plans? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gaurish Shar

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] New Developer: Dan Griffiths

2010-02-09 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Gaurish Sharma > wrote: >> Congrats Dan! >> So what should we expect from you? any special plans? >> >> Regards, >> Gaurish Sharma >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Gerardo Exequiel

Re: [arch-general] pacman message: "too much happens::" ...

2010-02-09 Thread clemens fischer
Aaron Griffin wrote: > Could it be a message from cron itself? No, you might have read in my original post that I grepped for the string in fcron, pacman and libalpm, as well as the libc. clemens

Re: [arch-general] pacman message: "too much happens::" ...

2010-02-09 Thread clemens fischer
Daenyth Blank wrote: > Maybe it's an error from your download agent if you're not using > libfetch in pacman? Not that, either. I'm using no download agent. I wonder why it went away a few days ago. Does anybody else use "http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/archlinux/"; or "http://ftp.uni-bayr

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] New Developer: Dan Griffiths

2010-02-09 Thread Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227)
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Gaurish Sharma wrote: > Congrats Dan! > So what should we expect from you? any special plans? > > Regards, > Gaurish Sharma > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi > wrote: >> On 02/09/2010 03:23 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: >>> >>> I just want

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] package signoffs

2010-02-09 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Eric Bélanger wrote: > > One reason that it takes time to get signoffs for certain packages is > that we don't know if enough devs use it to get the required signoff. > For instance, I don't use openvpn. How many devs use openvpn? I don't > know and probably no-one

Re: [arch-general] [patch] AIF, partition table compatibility with grub2.

2010-02-09 Thread Mauro Santos
> I don't really see the point. this wastes some disk space to be > compatible with old, past-legacy bootloaders and OS'es. > why exactly would we want this? "some cases" ? As far as I can tell, if you install GRUB to the MBR it also lives in this empty space (between the first sector of the disk

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] New Developer: Dan Griffiths

2010-02-09 Thread Gaurish Sharma
Congrats Dan! So what should we expect from you? any special plans? Regards, Gaurish Sharma On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote: > On 02/09/2010 03:23 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: >> >> I just want to shoot a welcome message to the newest member of the >> team: Dan Griff

Re: [arch-general] [patch] AIF, partition table compatibility with grub2.

2010-02-09 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:26:45 +0100 (CET) Mark Pustjens wrote: > Hi list, > > The attatched patch adds the `-D' option to the sfdisk call. > This causes some extra space to be saved for the MBR, which is needed > for grub2 in some cases. > > Please let me know what you think. > > Greetings/Groet

[arch-general] [patch] AIF, partition table compatibility with grub2.

2010-02-09 Thread Mark Pustjens
Hi list, The attatched patch adds the `-D' option to the sfdisk call. This causes some extra space to be saved for the MBR, which is needed for grub2 in some cases. Please let me know what you think. Greetings/Groetjes Mark Pustjens -- I do note with interest that old women in my books beco

Re: [arch-general] Syncing the mirrors

2010-02-09 Thread Damjan Georgievski
>> I wonder if something like http://www.coralcdn.org/ could be used for >> a package repository. > > Nope. The CoralCDN is intended to be used as a distributed web cache. > It doesn't even serve large files, it redirects you to the original > source: I was thinking about using the technology not

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] New Developer: Dan Griffiths

2010-02-09 Thread Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi
On 02/09/2010 03:23 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: I just want to shoot a welcome message to the newest member of the team: Dan Griffiths (Ghost1227). Welcome aboard! Very great news! Congratulations :) -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key finger

Re: [arch-general] policykit vs polkit

2010-02-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.02.2010 19:11, schrieb Lukáš Jirkovský: > Hi, > I just found out that policykit on my package is no longer needed. > Because it looked strange to me a took a look at other packages and > found polkit package. What is the difference between these two > (policykit and polkit)? Both seems to pro

[arch-general] policykit vs polkit

2010-02-09 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
Hi, I just found out that policykit on my package is no longer needed. Because it looked strange to me a took a look at other packages and found polkit package. What is the difference between these two (policykit and polkit)? Both seems to provide the same package. regards, Lukas

Re: [arch-general] Syncing the mirrors

2010-02-09 Thread Marti Raudsepp
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Damjan Georgievski wrote: > I wonder if something like http://www.coralcdn.org/ could be used for > a package repository. Nope. The CoralCDN is intended to be used as a distributed web cache. It doesn't even serve large files, it redirects you to the original sourc

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] openvpn 2.1.1-1

2010-02-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.02.2010 17:14, schrieb Damjan Georgievski: >>> Does not export the $route_net_gateway environment variable to my --up >>> script. >>> This is probably upstream bug, but still >> >> Did you check the ChangeLog? They keep changing all kinds of stuff >> w.r.t. the external scripts. > > the Cha

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-09 Thread Damjan Georgievski
>>> "make install" does it >> >> Called by pacman, I suppose. Anyway this is irrelevant. > > No. pacman does not build packages. It installs them Depends how you look at it: $ pacman -Qo `which makepkg` /usr/bin/makepkg is owned by pacman 3.3.3-1 so maybe pacman the command doesn't build package

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] openvpn 2.1.1-1

2010-02-09 Thread Damjan Georgievski
>> Does not export the $route_net_gateway environment variable to my --up >> script. >> This is probably upstream bug, but still > > Did you check the ChangeLog? They keep changing all kinds of stuff > w.r.t. the external scripts. the ChangeLog only mentions it's introduction in 1.5beta(something

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-09 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:45 PM, wrote: > On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 05:37:31PM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: > >> "make install" does it > > Called by pacman, I suppose. Anyway this is irrelevant. No. pacman does not build packages. It installs them

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] openvpn 2.1.1-1

2010-02-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.02.2010 15:33, schrieb Damjan Georgievski: >>> Upstream update. >>> >> >> Bump! > > Does not export the $route_net_gateway environment variable to my --up script. > This is probably upstream bug, but still Did you check the ChangeLog? They keep changing all kinds of stuff w.r.t. the externa

[arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.8-1

2010-02-09 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Hi guys, bump to latest bugfix version. Please signoff both arches, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tp...@archlinux.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] openvpn 2.1.1-1

2010-02-09 Thread Damjan Georgievski
>> Upstream update. >> > > Bump! Does not export the $route_net_gateway environment variable to my --up script. This is probably upstream bug, but still -- damjan

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] rfkill 0.4-1

2010-02-09 Thread Damjan Georgievski
>> Upstream update, please sign off. >> > Bump! seems to work fine on i686 tested with wifi and bluetooth (but it really needs a toggle operation) -- damjan

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-09 Thread Ray Rashif
On 9 February 2010 17:50, Xavier Chantry wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Arvid Picciani wrote: >> >> if someone actually posts patches or other constructive stuff, please CC >> me. We're rewriting pacman anyway and looking for a solution to handle >> this mess in particular. >> >> Right

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-09 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 09/02/10 19:50, Xavier Chantry wrote: >> >> Anyway, care to explain what you are rewriting pacman for ? There are >> probably plenty of good reasons to do that, I am just curious to know >> if you have any:) >> > > I guess it is for some ide

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-09 Thread Allan McRae
On 09/02/10 19:50, Xavier Chantry wrote: Anyway, care to explain what you are rewriting pacman for ? There are probably plenty of good reasons to do that, I am just curious to know if you have any:) I guess it is for some ideas here: http://www.hereticlinux.org/wiki/pacideas

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-09 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Arvid Picciani wrote: > > if someone actually posts patches or other constructive stuff, please CC > me. We're rewriting pacman anyway and looking for a solution to handle > this mess in particular. > > Right now the only idea i got is versioned deps which is sort o

Re: [arch-general] KMS again with 2.6.33?

2010-02-09 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Jan de Groot wrote: > > The point is that it moved to the staging tree now, where further > development will take place. After a while, there won't be an > out-of-tree version anymore because all development happens in the > official kernel git tree. > An example of

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-09 Thread Pierre Chapuis
Le Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:05:14 +, Mauro Santos a écrit : > > I'm facing a decision to change five 'critical' machines > > in need of an upgrade to Arch or not. Over the last months > > I've installed Arch on three less critical ones to get to > > know the system. Up to yesterday the decision lo

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-09 Thread Pierre Chapuis
Le Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:12:29 +0100, f...@kokkinizita.net a écrit : > On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 08:02:04PM -0700, Brendan Long wrote: > > > Except then you'd annoy everyone who wants their package manager to work > > properly. When I update a package I expect it to clean up after itself. > > Work pr

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-09 Thread fons
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 08:02:04PM -0700, Brendan Long wrote: > Except then you'd annoy everyone who wants their package manager to work > properly. When I update a package I expect it to clean up after itself. Work properly = not remove things that are still needed. Clean up after itself = remov

Re: [arch-general] KMS again with 2.6.33?

2010-02-09 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 01:20 +0100, Xavier Chantry wrote: > That's true, but the conflict goes both way. And the situation isn't > different with ati vs fglrx, is it ? > > Anyway, there is no reason to enable nouveau in the kernel, the > current out-of-tree build is just fine and allows for more fr