Re: [arch-general] let's discuss /srv again

2009-10-05 Thread Phillip Smith
According to the FHS, /srv is for "site-specific" data served by the host: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SRVDATAFORSERVICESPROVIDEDBYSYSTEM IMHO, this means webapps. The FHS makes specific mention that a distribution must take care not to touch user files in this directory, which in

Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread David Houston
Jobs a good one then :) On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Jozsef wrote: > LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so > Include conf/extra/php5_module.conf > > After adding these two lines in httpd.conf everything works fine again. > > -- > Best, > Jozsef Kurucity | Web & Graphic Designer > +971 5

Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread Jozsef
LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so Include conf/extra/php5_module.conf After adding these two lines in httpd.conf everything works fine again. -- Best, Jozsef Kurucity | Web & Graphic Designer +971 50 6783113 | joz...@gmx.com

Re: [arch-general] package sources on ftp.archlinux.org

2009-10-05 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Sergej Pupykin wrote: >>> So... what's the exact error? And how quickly are you doing this? >>> There is a delay between the arch dev machine that the developers use >>> and ftp.archlinux.org (about 5-15 minutes IIRC) > > Do you mean that ftp.archlinux.org synchron

Re: [arch-general] package sources on ftp.archlinux.org

2009-10-05 Thread Aaron Griffin
2009/10/5 Sergej Pupykin : > Btw, if someone interested in, here is the list of packages which failed > last time: > > > abyssws > aqua-data-studio > autojump > choqok > colorgcc > cross-arm-wince-cegcc-gdb > cross-arm-wince-cegcc-gdbstub > emerald-themes > fcpcmcia > flashplugin > flickrnet > foom

Re: [arch-general] checking runlevels in rc.shutdown

2009-10-05 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Damjan Georgievski wrote: >> Can we actually do without this check for runlevels? It is >> additionally not compatible with Upstart, I understand Upstart is not >> supported in Arch in any way, but still more flexible rc.xxx scripts >> in Arch would be a good thing

Re: [arch-general] checking runlevels in rc.shutdown

2009-10-05 Thread Damjan Georgievski
> Can we actually do without this check for runlevels? It is > additionally not compatible with Upstart, I understand Upstart is not > supported in Arch in any way, but still more flexible rc.xxx scripts > in Arch would be a good thing afterall. BTW, how about splitting rc.sysinit, rc.multi and rc

Re: [arch-general] checking runlevels in rc.shutdown

2009-10-05 Thread Evangelos Foutras
Daenyth Blank wrote: On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:36, Aaron Griffin wrote: I have a feeling this was done to mirror the rc.multi script (which is what starts the DAEMONS array). But, you're right. If I boot into single user mode (runlevel 1) and then start daemons manually, rc.shutdown should s

Re: [arch-general] checking runlevels in rc.shutdown

2009-10-05 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:36, Aaron Griffin wrote: > I have a feeling this was done to mirror the rc.multi script (which is > what starts the DAEMONS array). But, you're right. If I boot into > single user mode (runlevel 1) and then start daemons manually, > rc.shutdown should should them down cle

Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread jozefk
On 5 Oct 2009 at 10:32, Crouse wrote: > When using Arch as a server distro, you HAVE to be prepared to > revert > packages back that bork things, php/apache/mysq/ etc. this > isn't > hard at all. > > I ran into the same php issues, and have yet to complete the > upgrade, > I simply reverted t

Re: [arch-general] package sources on ftp.archlinux.org

2009-10-05 Thread David Houston
Question: Are these packages that need fixing as I have vested interest in 1 or 2 of them. Thanks 2009/10/5 Sergej Pupykin > Btw, if someone interested in, here is the list of packages which failed > last time: > > > abyssws > aqua-data-studio > autojump > choqok > colorgcc > cross-arm-wince-ce

Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread David Houston
> What, specifically, do you see as more stable about BSD over Linux? > Nothing really... Just NetBSD is infamous for being uber stable. Linux under severe load can behave, well strangely. I have seen BSD boxes with loads up to 12 (Single Core as well so that's 12x optimum load) and still behave s

Re: [arch-general] package sources on ftp.archlinux.org

2009-10-05 Thread Sergej Pupykin
Btw, if someone interested in, here is the list of packages which failed last time: abyssws aqua-data-studio autojump choqok colorgcc cross-arm-wince-cegcc-gdb cross-arm-wince-cegcc-gdbstub emerald-themes fcpcmcia flashplugin flickrnet foomatic foomatic-db foomatic-db-engine foomatic-db-hpijs f

Re: [arch-general] package sources on ftp.archlinux.org

2009-10-05 Thread Sergej Pupykin
>> So... what's the exact error? And how quickly are you doing this? >> There is a delay between the arch dev machine that the developers use >> and ftp.archlinux.org (about 5-15 minutes IIRC) Do you mean that ftp.archlinux.org synchronizes with dev machine? I do $ svnsync --non-interactive syn

Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread jozefk
On 5 Oct 2009 at 16:30, David Houston wrote: > If you want ultimate stability use NetBSD, wouldn't recommend it for > a > desktop but as a Server goes its the balls! Man I got one thats been > up for > over a 1000days! I think what I'm trying to say in a round about > fashion is > this... > > I t

Re: [arch-general] checking runlevels in rc.shutdown

2009-10-05 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Damjan Georgievski wrote: > Is there a specific reason why rc.shutdown only shutsdown daemons if > the previous runlevel was 3 or 5? > > It's the line that is: > if [ "$PREVLEVEL" = "3" -o "$PREVLEVEL" = "5" ]; then > > > I use both runlevel 4 and 5 (to use differe

Re: [arch-general] package sources on ftp.archlinux.org

2009-10-05 Thread Aaron Griffin
2009/10/5 Sergej Pupykin : >>> The sources should remain on ftp.archlinux.org as long as the >>> version exists in ABS, though that's not set-in-stone. Are you using >>>  an ABS PKGBUILD, or one of your own making? > > I use 'svnsync'ed repo and do 'makepkg --allsources' for all packages in > repos

Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 10/05/2009 11:30 AM, David Houston wrote: If you want ultimate stability use NetBSD, wouldn't recommend it for a desktop but as a Server goes its the balls! Man I got one thats been up for over a 1000days! Getting OT a bit, I know, but just wondering: What, specifically, do you see as more

Re: [arch-general] package sources on ftp.archlinux.org

2009-10-05 Thread Sergej Pupykin
>> The sources should remain on ftp.archlinux.org as long as the >> version exists in ABS, though that's not set-in-stone. Are you using >> an ABS PKGBUILD, or one of your own making? I use 'svnsync'ed repo and do 'makepkg --allsources' for all packages in repos/ subdirs. So I can say I use A

[arch-general] checking runlevels in rc.shutdown

2009-10-05 Thread Damjan Georgievski
Is there a specific reason why rc.shutdown only shutsdown daemons if the previous runlevel was 3 or 5? It's the line that is: if [ "$PREVLEVEL" = "3" -o "$PREVLEVEL" = "5" ]; then I use both runlevel 4 and 5 (to use different login managers) and when shuting from 4 it will sometimes not shutdown

Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread Crouse
When using Arch as a server distro, you HAVE to be prepared to revert packages back that bork things, php/apache/mysq/ etc. this isn't hard at all. I ran into the same php issues, and have yet to complete the upgrade, I simply reverted the package back, and set it to ignore in the upgrade list

Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread David Houston
> :) You are right about Linux. Arch is the best for sure. And I tried > already many linux distros. Didn't try them all of course, but many > of them I did. Maybe Sabayon and Pardus are worth of try. Will see > about that later. > But what I didn't try yet is BSD. I mean for longer period of time,

Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread Jozsef
On 5 Oct 2009 at 18:43, Sergej Pupykin wrote: > >> Was thiking about PC-BSD. > > >Thats a toy! > > Let's give him a chance to sort out more distros and come back to arch :) :) You are right about Linux. Arch is the best for sure. And I tried already many linux distros. Didn't try them all o

Re: [arch-general] package sources on ftp.archlinux.org

2009-10-05 Thread Aaron Griffin
2009/10/5 Sergej Pupykin : > Hi, > > I often have issues with > $ makepkg --allsource > when I build source package which uses ftp.archlinux.org > > Today they are: > > qt > texlive-bibtexextra > texlive-bibtexextra-doc > texlive-core > texlive-core-doc > texlive-fontsextra-doc > texlive-formatsext

Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread Sergej Pupykin
>> Was thiking about PC-BSD. >Thats a toy! Let's give him a chance to sort out more distros and come back to arch :)

[arch-general] package sources on ftp.archlinux.org

2009-10-05 Thread Sergej Pupykin
Hi, I often have issues with $ makepkg --allsource when I build source package which uses ftp.archlinux.org Today they are: qt texlive-bibtexextra texlive-bibtexextra-doc texlive-core texlive-core-doc texlive-fontsextra-doc texlive-formatsextra-doc texlive-games-doc texlive-genericextra-doc tex

Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread Jozsef
On 5 Oct 2009 at 14:18, David Houston wrote: > > I like that it is bleeding edge but still it's not testing version. > > What is the function of Arch distro? For fun? > > > > Your kidding right? KISS I think that Arch functions really well at > being bleeding edge and stable.. further more...

Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread David Houston
> I like that it is bleeding edge but still it's not testing version. > What is the function of Arch distro? For fun? > Your kidding right? KISS I think that Arch functions really well at being bleeding edge and stable.. further more your using aur. Not that there is anything wrong with th

Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread Jozsef
On 5 Oct 2009 at 16:19, Sergej Pupykin wrote: > >> Karma or not, I need a good, stable and working OS. > > Arch is bleeding edge, not stable. > > btw you may try Rock Stable Arch (if it is still alive) I like that it is bleeding edge but still it's not testing version. What is the function of

Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread Sergej Pupykin
>> Karma or not, I need a good, stable and working OS. Arch is bleeding edge, not stable. btw you may try Rock Stable Arch (if it is still alive)

Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread Jozsef
On 5 Oct 2009 at 15:46, Sergej Pupykin wrote: > This is your karma or badly synced mirror. :) > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Jozsef wrote: > > Yes i read that and I did that changes last time I did -Syu and > > apache and PHP start working again. But last night it didn't happen. > > I just

Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread Sergej Pupykin
This is your karma or badly synced mirror. :) On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Jozsef wrote: > Yes i read that and I did that changes last time I did -Syu and > apache and PHP start working again. But last night it didn't happen. > I just didn't try to do anything regarding: > *module path is now

Re: [arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread Jozsef
On 5 Oct 2009 at 21:26, Allan McRae wrote: > It would be best to start a new thread rather than replying to a > completely unrelated one. > > > Jozsef wrote: > > Last night after I did yaourt -Syu my php stopped working and this > > time I din't see any news about things I should fix to get it

[arch-general] php not working - Was: Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread Allan McRae
It would be best to start a new thread rather than replying to a completely unrelated one. Jozsef wrote: Last night after I did yaourt -Syu my php stopped working and this time I din't see any news about things I should fix to get it working again. Did you read the news about php on the fr

Re: [arch-general] Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread Antonio de la Rosa
Jozsef escribió: On 5 Oct 2009 at 15:13, Sergej Pupykin wrote: Hi, I have start Web_application_package_guidelines. http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Web_application_package_guidelines I suggest to discuss and improve our web packaging standard. PS. to avoid discussion about webapps us

Re: [arch-general] Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread Jozsef
On 5 Oct 2009 at 15:13, Sergej Pupykin wrote: > Hi, > > I have start Web_application_package_guidelines. > > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Web_application_package_guidelines > > I suggest to discuss and improve our web packaging standard. > > PS. to avoid discussion about webapps useless

[arch-general] Web_application_package_guidelines wiki page

2009-10-05 Thread Sergej Pupykin
Hi, I have start Web_application_package_guidelines. http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Web_application_package_guidelines I suggest to discuss and improve our web packaging standard. PS. to avoid discussion about webapps useless. There are (at least) - phpmyadmin - phpldapadmin - phppgadmin