Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-03-31 Thread 李业
Not a joke? Though why some developers even like Aaron Griffin doesn't know this decision? On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:54 PM, DrCR wrote: > Guys ... this is no joke. I'm just glad there are other distros out > there (and superior ones really, like Mandrake) that still support > x86. I wouldn't be s

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-03-31 Thread DrCR
Guys ... this is no joke. I'm just glad there are other distros out there (and superior ones really, like Mandrake) that still support x86. I wouldn't be surprised if AMD money is behind this, now that they are losing their x86 license from Intel. On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 5:21 AM, Thomas Bohn wrot

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-03-31 Thread Thomas Bohn
On 2009-04-01 12:11 +0800, Abdul Halim wrote: Wondering why nobody is this thread mentions that today is 1st April.. LOL.. Damn, I thought we would play along until April 1 is over. You ruined everything! Thank you very much. Thomas P.S. Yeah, I fall for the joke completely.

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-03-31 Thread Cesar G. Miguel
> Wondering why nobody is this thread mentions that today is 1st April.. LOL.. It depends on where you live to be April 1st :-) Let's drop the support for Google [1], Firefox and, of course, Arch i686 :-) Happy Apr, 1st! [1] Considering it's been in beta stage since always.

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-03-31 Thread Abdul Halim
Wondering why nobody is this thread mentions that today is 1st April.. LOL..

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-03-31 Thread Thomas Bohn
On 2009-03-31 21:08 -0400, David Rosenstrauch wrote: My only concern about this is that it's often difficult or impossible to run an x86_64 distro inside a VM. Not only VM are dificult also the entire netbook market is still 32 bits. Neither the Atom N270 nor the upcoming N280 understand Int

Re: [arch-general] Make arch-announce read only?

2009-03-31 Thread Antony
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 23:23, Aaron Griffin wrote: > Forwarding to the dev list - what do you guys think? I think it's a good idea Definitely a good idea. If someone wants to make a comment about an announcement, they can forward it to the general mailing list or author a forum post about it.

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-03-31 Thread Antony
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 22:58, Chris Leng wrote: > err... > I have to say, at the very beginning, the reason why I chose Arch was > my old hardware: P4 2.0G (32bit) and 512MB DDR RAM. > If i686 support was drooped someday, how about my old computer? > I cannot cast it, however. I think that x86_6

Re: [arch-general] Make arch-announce read only?

2009-03-31 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:30 PM, pyther wrote: > > I was wondering if we could make arch-announce a read only list. Sort of > like the dev mailing list. Anyone who tries to respond to an announcement > could get an email saying something along the lines of "If you have a > comment about an announc

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-03-31 Thread Chris Leng
err... I have to say, at the very beginning, the reason why I chose Arch was my old hardware: P4 2.0G (32bit) and 512MB DDR RAM. If i686 support was drooped someday, how about my old computer? I cannot cast it, however.

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-03-31 Thread 李业
I'm running Arch i686 on thinkpad T400, although it's x86_64 compatible, but it will be painful to reinstall. And I think there might be many people don't have x64 hardware. -- Best regards, Li Ye

Re: [arch-general] Fatal Error

2009-03-31 Thread arunix
Jan de Groot wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 10:04 -0700, arunix wrote: >> when i come back with the command ctrl+alt+backkey(backspace) it >> shows me error > > You know that CTRL+ALT+backspace is not the clean way to close X? What > happens is that X gets killed while all applications are s

[arch-general] Make arch-announce read only?

2009-03-31 Thread pyther
I was wondering if we could make arch-announce a read only list. Sort of like the dev mailing list. Anyone who tries to respond to an announcement could get an email saying something along the lines of "If you have a comment about an announcement, please post it on the arch-general list. Thank you

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-03-31 Thread Guilherme M. Nogueira
Perhaps we should start thinking about quantic computing. =D -- Malformed message exception

Re: [arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-03-31 Thread Nicolas Bigaouette
I did not liked the idea first, but now I see the benefit of it. I think we should also drop some unsuportted packages that keep crufting the repos since some time. I would suggest going back to Arch's root: BSD. Why not an OpenBSD kernel? Linux is not developped actively enough... ;) 2009/3/31

[arch-general] [Fwd: [arch-announce] Dropping i686 support]

2009-03-31 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Hmmm ... My only concern about this is that it's often difficult or impossible to run an x86_64 distro inside a VM. So one very definite negative of this change is that it'd restrict many/most people's ability to run Arch inside of a VM - something I've done many times, and have found very c

Re: [arch-general] Fatal Error

2009-03-31 Thread ludovic coues
your errors look like wmii try to display something but didn't found any display, cause X is down. You need to use another way to shut down X if you didn't get these messages, or redirect them to «/dev/null» . 2009/3/31, Jan de Groot : > On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 10:04 -0700, arunix wrote: >> when i

Re: [arch-general] Computer blocking due to kernel <-> userspace incompatibility?

2009-03-31 Thread ludovic coues
look like an not-recognized-by-X keyboard. i've get some weird problem like that when I've install X. But maybe your cursor have already work. In this case, sorry for the useless post. 2009/3/30, Thomas Bächler : > RedShift schrieb: >> Is it possible a computer gets stuck (not responding to keybo

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ttf-ms-fonts (WAS: Re: [pacman-dev] [PATCH] New feature: files verification)

2009-03-31 Thread Florian Pritz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry guys, just wanted to test if my thunderbird still messes up the quotes when sending and thought you can't post to this list :( -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.m

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ttf-ms-fonts (WAS: Re: [pacman-dev] [PATCH] New feature: files verification)

2009-03-31 Thread Florian Pritz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric Bélanger wrote: | On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: |> Eric Bélanger schrieb: |>> If the packaging problem is simply the files being installed in |>> /tmp, that can be easily fixed. Instead of installing the files in |>> /

Re: [arch-general] fortune-mod packages

2009-03-31 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Jan Spakula wrote: > I've noticed that all fortune-mod packages (except fortune-mod itself) have > been removed from extra (by Eric). Do you plan on uploading them to AUR, or > should I just grab PKGBUILDs from svn and upload them myself if I'm interested > on main

[arch-general] openjdk web plugin under proxy.

2009-03-31 Thread Javier Vasquez
Hi, It happens that under the company I work for proxy (a non transparent one), the openjdk plugin doesn't seem to work. I tries to run the applet, but nothing. I read several bug reports about that (non arch), so I guess eventually it'll get fixed. However I'd like to know if there's a work ar

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ttf-ms-fonts (WAS: Re: [pacman-dev] [PATCH] New feature: files verification)

2009-03-31 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Eric Bélanger schrieb: >> >> If the packaging problem is simply  the files being  installed in >> /tmp, that can be easily fixed. Instead of installing the files in >> /tmp, just install them somewhere else (/usr/share/ttf-ms-fonts/ ?) >> wh

Re: [arch-general] Fatal Error

2009-03-31 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 10:04 -0700, arunix wrote: > when i come back with the command ctrl+alt+backkey(backspace) it > shows me error You know that CTRL+ALT+backspace is not the clean way to close X? What happens is that X gets killed while all applications are still running. This produces a lot of

[arch-general] Fatal Error

2009-03-31 Thread arunix
Hello :-) i am again posting here i have problem with wmiirc boz when i start X it works bt when i come back with the command ctrl+alt+backkey(backspace) it shows me error The error are :-( (EE)failed to load module"type1"(module doesnot exist,0) (EE)failed to load module"record"(module doesnot e

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ttf-ms-fonts (WAS: Re: [pacman-dev] [PATCH] New feature: files verification)

2009-03-31 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > James Rayner schrieb: >> >> We've allowed it in the past when the package has been of >> significance. Like nvidia and fglrx before those were rewritten. > > And we've fixed them and they're not broken any more. > >> Though I have all the fo

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ttf-ms-fonts (WAS: Re: [pacman-dev] [PATCH] New feature: files verification)

2009-03-31 Thread Thomas Bächler
James Rayner schrieb: We've allowed it in the past when the package has been of significance. Like nvidia and fglrx before those were rewritten. And we've fixed them and they're not broken any more. Though I have all the fonts in my own ~/.fonts, I'd prefer to keep the package in the repos. I

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ttf-ms-fonts (WAS: Re: [pacman-dev] [PATCH] New feature: files verification)

2009-03-31 Thread James Rayner
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Eric Bélanger schrieb: >> >> If the packaging problem is simply  the files being  installed in >> /tmp, that can be easily fixed. Instead of installing the files in >> /tmp, just install them somewhere else (/usr/share/ttf-ms-fonts/ ?) >> wh

[arch-general] fortune-mod packages

2009-03-31 Thread Jan Spakula
I've noticed that all fortune-mod packages (except fortune-mod itself) have been removed from extra (by Eric). Do you plan on uploading them to AUR, or should I just grab PKGBUILDs from svn and upload them myself if I'm interested on maintaining some of them? Thanks, Jan

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ttf-ms-fonts (WAS: Re: [pacman-dev] [PATCH] New feature: files verification)

2009-03-31 Thread Thomas Bächler
Eric Bélanger schrieb: If the packaging problem is simply the files being installed in /tmp, that can be easily fixed. Instead of installing the files in /tmp, just install them somewhere else (/usr/share/ttf-ms-fonts/ ?) where they won't be deleted. The problem is that files are installed at

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ttf-ms-fonts (WAS: Re: [pacman-dev] [PATCH] New feature: files verification)

2009-03-31 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:32 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Allan McRae schrieb: >> >> And there is/was a bug about text in youtube (or some other flash site) no >> showing without it being installed. > > Ah, that is why this is happening :) > > Anyway, as I mentioned before, the package does not qua

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ttf-ms-fonts (WAS: Re: [pacman-dev] [PATCH] New feature: files verification)

2009-03-31 Thread Thomas Bächler
Allan McRae schrieb: And there is/was a bug about text in youtube (or some other flash site) no showing without it being installed. Ah, that is why this is happening :) Anyway, as I mentioned before, the package does not qualify to Arch's packaging standards, so unless we can package it prope