Re: [arch-general] Can we use the "Firefox" name?

2008-06-11 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 18:05 +0200, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote: > I've a small dumb question. > Why not use official branded version when there are many licensing > problems? According to KISS and Arch philosophy (use upstream apps and > not to patch unless necessary) this should be a good way. There's

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Turkish Community Announcement

2008-06-11 Thread Dan McGee
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Alper KANAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey All, > > We, as the Turkish users of Arch Linux, have created our own community > to support, to translate, to develop our very beloved Linux distro on > all platforms. As our first gift to the community, we have translat

[arch-general] Arch Linux Turkish Community Announcement

2008-06-11 Thread Alper KANAT
Hey All, We, as the Turkish users of Arch Linux, have created our own community to support, to translate, to develop our very beloved Linux distro on all platforms. As our first gift to the community, we have translated pacman completely to Turkish. It's also being tested by our community right n

Re: [arch-general] speakers don't turn off when headphones inserted

2008-06-11 Thread Gustavo A. Gómez Farhat
I have the same problem. I have a HDA Intel card with a Realtek ALC883 chip. My `lspci | grep Audio`: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) To be able to control each one of the speakers (internal and headphones), I have this in /etc/modprobe.co

Re: [arch-general] speakers don't turn off when headphones inserted

2008-06-11 Thread Sébastien Mazy
Hi, On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Scott Weisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One problem I am having that I don't know how to fix is that when I > plug in headphones, the speakers don't turn off. Alsamixer shows that > the headphones and speakers have separate controls, something I have > neve

Re: [arch-general] Can we use the "Firefox" name?

2008-06-11 Thread John K Masters
On 02:37 Wed 11 Jun , Yonathan Dossow wrote: > On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 08:12 +0200, Jan de Groot wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 01:57 -0400, Yonathan Dossow wrote: > > > IMHO, to avoid trademark violations we should use IceWeasel. > > > > Would it make sense to distribute an iceweasel package

Re: [arch-general] Can we use the "Firefox" name?

2008-06-11 Thread Alessio Bolognino
On Wed 2008-06-11 11:28, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Alessio Bolognino > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed 2008-06-11 18:05, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote: > >> I've a small dumb question. > >> Why not use official branded version when there are many licensing > >> problems

Re: [arch-general] Can we use the "Firefox" name?

2008-06-11 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Alessio Bolognino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed 2008-06-11 18:05, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote: >> I've a small dumb question. >> Why not use official branded version when there are many licensing >> problems? According to KISS and Arch philosophy (use upstream apps

Re: [arch-general] new arch user, questions about package management

2008-06-11 Thread Dave Heistand
> $ pacman -Slq core > core-old.txt > # pacman -Sy > $ pacman -Slq core > core-new.txt > $ diff core-new.txt core-old.txt Sweet! Between that and the rss feeds I'm good to go! Thanks all!

Re: [arch-general] Can we use the "Firefox" name?

2008-06-11 Thread Alessio Bolognino
On Wed 2008-06-11 18:05, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote: > I've a small dumb question. > Why not use official branded version when there are many licensing > problems? According to KISS and Arch philosophy (use upstream apps and > not to patch unless necessary) this should be a good way. But what happens i

Re: [arch-general] Can we use the "Firefox" name?

2008-06-11 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
I've a small dumb question. Why not use official branded version when there are many licensing problems? According to KISS and Arch philosophy (use upstream apps and not to patch unless necessary) this should be a good way. Regards Lukas '6xx' Jirkovsky 2008/6/11 Sam Gwydir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >

Re: [arch-general] new arch user, questions about package management

2008-06-11 Thread Abhishek Dasgupta
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Dave Heistand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Such a diff would tell me things like (output > > Packages removed from package tree/ftp servers: > firefox (installed) > foobar (not installed) > > Packages added to tree/ftp servers > iceweasel (not installed) > tmpwatch

Re: [arch-general] new arch user, questions about package management

2008-06-11 Thread Xavier
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Dave Heistand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Such a diff would tell me things like (output > > Packages removed from package tree/ftp servers: > firefox (installed) > foobar (not installed) > > Packages added to tree/ftp servers > iceweasel (not installed) > tmpwatch

Re: [arch-general] new arch user, questions about package management

2008-06-11 Thread Dave Heistand
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 03:40:11PM +0200, Dennis Herbrich wrote: > > What I'm looking for is a way to see a diff of my package cache prior to > > and just after syncing, i.e. what packages are out of date (which pacman > > does show), what packages have been removed from the repositories since my >

Re: [arch-general] new arch user, questions about package management

2008-06-11 Thread Xavier
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Dan McGee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Arch in 99% of cases uses mandir=/usr/share/man, sysconfdir=/etc, and > never installs things under /usr/local. We don't want to enforce > things like that at the makepkg level however, you are free to build > local package h

Re: [arch-general] new arch user, questions about package management

2008-06-11 Thread Dan McGee
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Dave Heistand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 04:16:07PM +0200, Xavier wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Dave Heistand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > To me Arch package building is refreshing when compared to my experiences >> >

Re: [arch-general] new arch user, questions about package management

2008-06-11 Thread Dave Heistand
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 04:16:07PM +0200, Xavier wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Dave Heistand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > To me Arch package building is refreshing when compared to my experiences > > with > > ebuilds and rpm spec files. I can't seem to find a list of all the var

Re: [arch-general] Can we use the "Firefox" name?

2008-06-11 Thread Sam Gwydir
On Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 04:3341PM +0200, Xavier wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Alper KANAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As a user, I really dislike the name Iceweasel... I really dislike its logo > > and so on... > > > > Good for you! Then what? Then find a different name. Iceweasel i

Re: [arch-general] Can we use the "Firefox" name?

2008-06-11 Thread Xavier
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Alper KANAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a user, I really dislike the name Iceweasel... I really dislike its logo > and so on... > Good for you! Then what? > Please don't change it unless you have to.. Did you actually read the thread? We have to, according to

Re: [arch-general] new arch user, questions about package management

2008-06-11 Thread Xavier
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Dave Heistand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To me Arch package building is refreshing when compared to my experiences with > ebuilds and rpm spec files. I can't seem to find a list of all the varibles > that can be used in a PKGBUILD script though (like $startdir

Re: [arch-general] new arch user, questions about package management

2008-06-11 Thread Dennis Herbrich
On Wed, June 11, 2008 14:45, Dave Heistand wrote: > Hi, Greetings! > What I'm looking for is a way to see a diff of my package cache prior to > and just after syncing, i.e. what packages are out of date (which pacman > does show), what packages have been removed from the repositories since my > la

Re: [arch-general] Can we use the "Firefox" name?

2008-06-11 Thread Alper KANAT
As a user, I really dislike the name Iceweasel... I really dislike its logo and so on... Please don't change it unless you have to.. Alper KANAT http://raptiye.org Alessio Bolognino yazmış: On Wed 2008-06-11 05:46, Alessio 'mOLOk' Bolognino wrote: There is a thing that I have never understo

[arch-general] new arch user, questions about package management

2008-06-11 Thread Dave Heistand
Hi, For various personal reasons including the rolling release model (which is critical to me), easy package building and availability of binary packages and build scripts I'm considering changing to arch. I do have a few questions that I can't seem to find the answers to, sorry if they are cover

[arch-general] speakers don't turn off when headphones inserted

2008-06-11 Thread Scott Weisman
Hello, I just obtained a Fujitsu P7120 notebook (a very nice model, by the way). Overall, I am getting this working with Arch just fine (although I would definitely appreciate pointers from anyone else who has installed Arch, especially as I have been using a desktop until now and haven't had the