Re: [arch-general] Eclipse won't start any more

2008-05-20 Thread Maik Beckmann
Am Mittwoch 21 Mai 2008 00:26:29 schrieb Juergen Starek: > Hello everybody, > > a few days ago, my Eclipse installation (which had worked fine for some > months before that) stopped working. Eclipse will start, but only to the > end of its initialization routine. The splash screen does not disappea

Re: [arch-general] Any way to decrypt hashes set by ssh HashKnownHosts?

2008-05-20 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:46 PM, eliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/20/08, Thomas Bächler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Aaron Griffin schrieb: >> >> > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:05 PM, David Rosenstrauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > >> > > Problem is, though, since Arch recently turned o

Re: [arch-general] Any way to decrypt hashes set by ssh HashKnownHosts?

2008-05-20 Thread eliott
On 5/20/08, Thomas Bächler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aaron Griffin schrieb: > > > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:05 PM, David Rosenstrauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Problem is, though, since Arch recently turned on HashKnownHosts by > default > > > in ssh_config, those 2 lines in the kno

Re: [arch-general] Any way to decrypt hashes set by ssh HashKnownHosts?

2008-05-20 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Thomas Bächler wrote: I didn't find out about this change until much later - and it pissed me off. For no apparent reason, we changed the default configuration of openssh at one point and now I have an obfuscated known_hosts file. I agree - it would have been better for there to have been a bi

Re: [arch-general] Eclipse won't start any more

2008-05-20 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Juergen Starek wrote: Hello everybody, a few days ago, my Eclipse installation (which had worked fine for some months before that) stopped working. I'm out of ideas at the moment regarding possible causes for that error. So I'd like to ask here whether anyone thinks that any updates to Arch

Re: [arch-general] Any way to decrypt hashes set by ssh HashKnownHosts?

2008-05-20 Thread Thomas Bächler
Aaron Griffin schrieb: On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:05 PM, David Rosenstrauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Problem is, though, since Arch recently turned on HashKnownHosts by default in ssh_config, those 2 lines in the known_hosts file are encrypted, and so I don't know which host machines that I've

[arch-general] Eclipse won't start any more

2008-05-20 Thread Juergen Starek
Hello everybody, a few days ago, my Eclipse installation (which had worked fine for some months before that) stopped working. Eclipse will start, but only to the end of its initialization routine. The splash screen does not disappear. I realize this is no Eclipse support list, and hence will ju

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-20 Thread Marc Deop i Argemí
On Tuesday 20 May 2008 23:55:38 Mordechai Peller wrote: > Like with firing a gun, it depends on the context. Yeah, well, while reading your email: "Why yes, I just so happened to be holding the gun and pulling the trigger when it went off. But honestly, it was the gun's fault. If the manufact

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-20 Thread Mordechai Peller
Marc Deop i Argemí wrote: It is obvious that you are doing something wrong whenever you shot a gun but not when you use a mail client and you top-post. Of course it is not the same "wrong" but my point was about the *knowledge*. Like with firing a gun, it depends on the context. Just as I cou

Re: [arch-general] Any way to decrypt hashes set by ssh HashKnownHosts?

2008-05-20 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Aaron Griffin wrote: Anyone know if there's any way to decrypt the hashes created by the HashKnownHosts setting? I think the whole point is that they *are* one way hashes. The only think I can think of is to find the algorithm they use (sha1?) and hash the hostnames that you know, then compare.

Re: [arch-general] network manager cannot connect to AP with a hidden ssid

2008-05-20 Thread Marc Deop i Argemí
On Tuesday 20 May 2008 19:43:13 metin wrote: > any ideas? Are you using iwl3945? If so, don't bother trying it because is a known problem. -- Blog: damnshock.blogspot.com Fotolog:www.fotolog.com/damnshock

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-20 Thread Marc Deop i Argemí
On Tuesday 20 May 2008 10:33:16 eliott wrote: > How do I shot email? Is this a joke or what? It is obvious that you are doing something wrong whenever you shot a gun but not when you use a mail client and you top-post. Of course it is not the same "wrong" but my point was about the *knowledge*

[arch-general] network manager cannot connect to AP with a hidden ssid

2008-05-20 Thread metin
any ideas?

Re: [arch-general] Any way to decrypt hashes set by ssh HashKnownHosts?

2008-05-20 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:05 PM, David Rosenstrauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just on a whim, I decided to try out the Debian tool to scan for weak keys > resulting from the recent openssl security hole. And lo and behold, it > found 2 weak keys in my known_hosts file! > > Problem is, though, s

[arch-general] Any way to decrypt hashes set by ssh HashKnownHosts?

2008-05-20 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Just on a whim, I decided to try out the Debian tool to scan for weak keys resulting from the recent openssl security hole. And lo and behold, it found 2 weak keys in my known_hosts file! Problem is, though, since Arch recently turned on HashKnownHosts by default in ssh_config, those 2 lines

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-20 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:52 AM, jason maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:43 AM, RedShift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I guess you don't like HTML email as well :-( > > Neither did Hitler's Nazi regime. > Ok, ok, you win this round. But it was a willful invocation o

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-20 Thread w9ya
> On 5/20/08, Marc Deop i Argemí <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tuesday 20 May 2008 03:08:14 Mordechai Peller wrote: >> > "Why yes, I just so happened to be holding the gun and pulling the >> trigger when it went off. But honestly, it was the gun's fault. If >> the manufacture hadn't designed

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-20 Thread jason maxwell
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:43 AM, RedShift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess you *don't* like HTML email as well :-( > Neither did Hitler's Nazi regime.

Re: [arch-general] experience with gprs/umts cards & linux?

2008-05-20 Thread Michael Schaefer
Hi On 20.05.2008 14:52, Xavier wrote: Btw quite != quiet. I first thought it was a funny typo when you said you were quiet busy, but you made it twice in a row, so I am not sure anymore :) even if it's hard to believe now: it's indeed a typo ;) had an accident some days ago, so my right hand

Re: [arch-general] experience with gprs/umts cards & linux?

2008-05-20 Thread Xavier
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Michael Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It works quiet good for me. Btw quite != quiet. I first thought it was a funny typo when you said you were quiet busy, but you made it twice in a row, so I am not sure anymore :)

[arch-general] Security updates & packages in testing

2008-05-20 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Hi, there has been some security updates for packages in Core that have been upgraded and have been lying in Testing for a long while. The ones that come to mind are bzip2 and openssh but there might be more. Is there any reason those havent moved yet? As far as i can see bzip2 is missing some si

Re: [arch-general] experience with gprs/umts cards & linux?

2008-05-20 Thread Michael Schaefer
Hi, On 19.05.2008 01:38, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: If anyone tried something like that on linux, please share your experience. Maybe i could use a mobile with bluetooth as well. I use the the Huawei E220 USB Modem which is sold by various vendors (e.g. t-mobile, o2, ... in Germany) for UM

Re: [arch-general] thunderbird 2.0.0.14: Don't see attachments anymore

2008-05-20 Thread Allan McRae
Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Allan McRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can confirm it does not happen with the official binaries, although the icons do not show but that could be because I ran it from my home directory. I have also rebuilt via abs to get branding

Re: [arch-general] thunderbird 2.0.0.14: Don't see attachments anymore

2008-05-20 Thread Xavier
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Allan McRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can confirm it does not happen with the official binaries, although the > icons do not show but that could be because I ran it from my home directory. > I have also rebuilt via abs to get branding and that does not help.

Re: [arch-general] poll: udev uevents settle wait time

2008-05-20 Thread Michael Schaefer
On 19.05.2008 19:01, Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: Let me start with a P3 800MHz I have running arch. Normal wait time: ~11.5s acpi=off wait time: ~5s What about yours? it's 992ms Linux 2.6.25 #20 SMP Tue May 20 12:18:39 CEST 2008 i686 Genuine Intel(R) CPU L2300 @ 1.50GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linu

Re: [arch-general] poll: udev uevents settle wait time

2008-05-20 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Dimitrios Apostolou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another arch PC I've got, a 2GHz P4 this time: > > Normal udev settling: ~5.5s > acpi=off: ~4s > > It's a bit too much wasting 5s (or >10s for old PCs) just waiting, isn't it? Its 7s on my 1.7GHz AMD i686 and 730ms

Re: [arch-general] thunderbird 2.0.0.14: Don't see attachments anymore

2008-05-20 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Allan McRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Schaefer wrote: >> >> On 20.05.2008 13:07, Xavier wrote: >>> >>> It might also be interesting to see what happens with mozilla binaries >>> (just download thunderbird for linux from mozilla site). >> >> Unfortunately

Re: [arch-general] thunderbird 2.0.0.14: Don't see attachments anymore

2008-05-20 Thread Allan McRae
Michael Schaefer wrote: On 20.05.2008 13:07, Xavier wrote: It might also be interesting to see what happens with mozilla binaries (just download thunderbird for linux from mozilla site). Unfortunately i don't have the time to debug this at the moment cause i'm quiet busy. but when rebooting a

Re: [arch-general] thunderbird 2.0.0.14: Don't see attachments anymore

2008-05-20 Thread Michael Schaefer
On 20.05.2008 13:07, Xavier wrote: It might also be interesting to see what happens with mozilla binaries (just download thunderbird for linux from mozilla site). i tried the thunderbird 2.0.0.14 binary from mozilla.org now and it works perfect for me. everything works as expected. cheers -

Re: [arch-general] thunderbird 2.0.0.14: Don 't see attachments anymore

2008-05-20 Thread Maik Beckmann
Am Dienstag 20 Mai 2008 13:27:19 schrieb Michael Schaefer: > On 20.05.2008 13:07, Xavier wrote: > > It might also be interesting to see what happens with mozilla binaries > > (just download thunderbird for linux from mozilla site). > > Unfortunately i don't have the time to debug this at the moment

Re: [arch-general] thunderbird 2.0.0.14: Don't see attachments anymore

2008-05-20 Thread Michael Schaefer
On 20.05.2008 13:07, Xavier wrote: It might also be interesting to see what happens with mozilla binaries (just download thunderbird for linux from mozilla site). Unfortunately i don't have the time to debug this at the moment cause i'm quiet busy. but when rebooting and x shutting down i saw

Re: [arch-general] thunderbird 2.0.0.14: Don't see attachments anymore

2008-05-20 Thread Xavier
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Michael Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There seems to be something really wrong. Could you do me a davor and > send my your thunderbird 2.0.0.12 package from your cache via email? > Unfortunately i flushed my cache some days ago and can't find the old > 12er

Re: [arch-general] thunderbird 2.0.0.14: Don't see attachments anymore

2008-05-20 Thread Michael Schaefer
There seems to be something really wrong. Could you do me a davor and send my your thunderbird 2.0.0.12 package from your cache via email? Unfortunately i flushed my cache some days ago and can't find the old 12er package anywhere. thank you in advance - Michael On 20.05.2008 12:55, ert256 wrote

Re: [arch-general] thunderbird 2.0.0.14: Don't see attachments anymore

2008-05-20 Thread ert256
I have opposite problem after upgrade to 2.0.0.14 I can see JPEG attachment only, there is no text in the window. After downgrading to 2.0.0.12 everything is back to normal. Michael Schaefer pisze: > Hello everybody, > > after upgrading to thunderbird 2.0.0.14 i cannot open attachments > anymore

Re: [arch-general] poll: udev uevents settle wait time

2008-05-20 Thread Thomas Bächler
Dimitrios Apostolou schrieb: Another arch PC I've got, a 2GHz P4 this time: Normal udev settling: ~5.5s acpi=off: ~4s It's a bit too much wasting 5s (or >10s for old PCs) just waiting, isn't it? It's no waste of time, the entire hardware detection and initialization is done in those 5 second

Re: [arch-general] poll: udev uevents settle wait time

2008-05-20 Thread Dimitrios Apostolou
Another arch PC I've got, a 2GHz P4 this time: Normal udev settling: ~5.5s acpi=off: ~4s It's a bit too much wasting 5s (or >10s for old PCs) just waiting, isn't it? Dimitris

[arch-general] thunderbird 2.0.0.14: Don't see attachments anymore

2008-05-20 Thread Michael Schaefer
Hello everybody, after upgrading to thunderbird 2.0.0.14 i cannot open attachments anymore or rather see them. Before opening an email the attachment symbol still appears in the list but when opened i just see the textbody and the symbol (speaking about the paper-clip) disappears. Furthermore

[arch-general] Extremely stupid script I wrote for fun.

2008-05-20 Thread eliott
I spent a few hours the other night fiddling around with metalinks and aria2. I came up with an extremely stupid script I wrote for fun. I recommend nobody use it. That being said.. here it is. :) http://code.cactuswax.net/git/?p=random.git;a=blob_plain;f=pacgobbler/pacgobbler.bash;hb=HEAD The

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-20 Thread Nagy Gabor
Idézés Jan de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 15:55 +0900, Bendany Qian wrote: > > Hi all > > > > I just have a sugguestion about the pkg format. > > > > Currently archlinux is using gzip compress method to pack the > > package, I think it is better to use bzip2. since bzip2 f

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-20 Thread RedShift
I guess you don't like HTML email as well :-( Xavier wrote: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/top-post.html What about using a consistent style, at least for one given ML? arch-general is really painful to read sometimes. Thanks!

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-20 Thread RedShift
I guess you /don't/ like HTML email as well :-( Xavier wrote: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/top-post.html What about using a consistent style, at least for one given ML? arch-general is really painful to read sometimes. Thanks!

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-20 Thread eliott
On 5/20/08, Marc Deop i Argemí <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 20 May 2008 03:08:14 Mordechai Peller wrote: > > "Why yes, I just so happened to be holding the gun and pulling the > > trigger when it went off. But honestly, it was the gun's fault. If the > > manufacture hadn't designed th

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-20 Thread Xavier
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Jan de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pacman itself is ready for .tar.bz2 package files. The whole issue > with .bz2 files is that compression and decompression times increase a > lot without giving the same amount of size reduction back. We've done > some re

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-20 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 15:55 +0900, Bendany Qian wrote: > Hi all > > I just have a sugguestion about the pkg format. > > Currently archlinux is using gzip compress method to pack the > package, I think it is better to use bzip2. since bzip2 format > can save about 10%-20% disk space than gzip. >

Re: [arch-general] top posting

2008-05-20 Thread Marc Deop i Argemí
On Tuesday 20 May 2008 03:08:14 Mordechai Peller wrote: > "Why yes, I just so happened to be holding the gun and pulling the > trigger when it went off. But honestly, it was the gun's fault. If the > manufacture hadn't designed the gun to fire the bullet, none of this > would ever have happened."

Re: [arch-general] About Arch pkg compress format

2008-05-20 Thread Allan McRae
Bendany Qian wrote: I just have a sugguestion about the pkg format. That is a very common suggestion. See http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/2264 for more information. Allan