Re: Ignore every file except XX*
Daniel Sahlberg wrote on Fri, 12 Jun 2020 21:14 +0200: > > > > Care to move this over to dev@ with a patch? > > > > Will do, it might take a few days. > > Thanks to the other users for their suggestions but I don't think they'll > be general enough for my use case. Care to explain why patterns with negated character classes wouldn't work?
Re: Ignore every file except XX*
On 13.06.2020 11:15, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Daniel Sahlberg wrote on Fri, 12 Jun 2020 21:14 +0200: >>> Care to move this over to dev@ with a patch? >>> >> Will do, it might take a few days. >> >> Thanks to the other users for their suggestions but I don't think they'll >> be general enough for my use case. > Care to explain why patterns with negated character classes wouldn't work? There's a difference between saying, "ignore everything except '*.doc'" and "ignore '*.[^d][^o][^c]'". You can't get the same result with negated character classes as with pattrerns. -- Brane
Re: Ignore every file except XX*
Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 09:51 +00:00: > On 13.06.2020 11:15, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > Daniel Sahlberg wrote on Fri, 12 Jun 2020 21:14 +0200: > >>> Care to move this over to dev@ with a patch? > >>> > >> Will do, it might take a few days. > >> > >> Thanks to the other users for their suggestions but I don't think they'll > >> be general enough for my use case. > > Care to explain why patterns with negated character classes wouldn't work? > > There's a difference between saying, "ignore everything except '*.doc'" > and "ignore '*.[^d][^o][^c]'". Did you read my previous message in this thread? If you have, then you've just committed a strawman, and that's unlike you. (And for the record, the complement of «*.doc» is «*[^c]|*[^o]c|*[^d]oc|*[^.]doc|».) > You can't get the same result with negated character classes as with > pattrerns. I'm aware of that, and have said so in so many words, but the problem statement was "Ignore everything except XX* and YY*", and that _can_ be achieved with negated patterns. At this point I'd rather wait for Daniel to answer my question and clarify his problem statement.
Re: Ignore every file except XX*
Daniel Shahaf wrote on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 10:09 +00:00: > Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 09:51 +00:00: > > On 13.06.2020 11:15, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > > Daniel Sahlberg wrote on Fri, 12 Jun 2020 21:14 +0200: > > >>> Care to move this over to dev@ with a patch? > > >>> > > >> Will do, it might take a few days. > > >> > > >> Thanks to the other users for their suggestions but I don't think they'll > > >> be general enough for my use case. > > > Care to explain why patterns with negated character classes wouldn't work? > > > > There's a difference between saying, "ignore everything except '*.doc'" > > and "ignore '*.[^d][^o][^c]'". > > Did you read my previous message in this thread? If you have, then > you've just committed a strawman, and that's unlike you. > > (And for the record, the complement of «*.doc» is > «*[^c]|*[^o]c|*[^d]oc|*[^.]doc|».) > > > You can't get the same result with negated character classes as with > > pattrerns. > > I'm aware of that, and have said so in so many words, but the problem > statement was "Ignore everything except XX* and YY*", and that _can_ be > achieved with negated patterns. s/negated patterns/negated character classes/ > At this point I'd rather wait for Daniel to answer my question and > clarify his problem statement.
Re: Ignore every file except XX*
On 13.06.2020 12:09, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 09:51 +00:00: >> On 13.06.2020 11:15, Daniel Shahaf wrote: >>> Daniel Sahlberg wrote on Fri, 12 Jun 2020 21:14 +0200: > Care to move this over to dev@ with a patch? > Will do, it might take a few days. Thanks to the other users for their suggestions but I don't think they'll be general enough for my use case. >>> Care to explain why patterns with negated character classes wouldn't work? >> There's a difference between saying, "ignore everything except '*.doc'" >> and "ignore '*.[^d][^o][^c]'". > Did you read my previous message in this thread? If you have, then > you've just committed a strawman, and that's unlike you. > > (And for the record, the complement of «*.doc» is > «*[^c]|*[^o]c|*[^d]oc|*[^.]doc|».) |? There's no such operator in glob patterns. >> You can't get the same result with negated character classes as with >> pattrerns. > I'm aware of that, and have said so in so many words, but the problem > statement was "Ignore everything except XX* and YY*", and that _can_ be > achieved with negated patterns. Well ok, sure, for any concrete pattern you can theoretically construct its inverse with negated character classes (assuming an "or" operator exists). But it's not always trivial nor practical. I think it's worth exploring possible solutions that are also user-friendly. > At this point I'd rather wait for Daniel to answer my question and > clarify his problem statement. I rather suspect that XX* and YY* were just general examples, not concrete ones. -- Brane
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Re: Ignore every file except XX*
Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 10:16 +00:00: > On 13.06.2020 12:09, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 09:51 +00:00: > >> On 13.06.2020 11:15, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > >>> Daniel Sahlberg wrote on Fri, 12 Jun 2020 21:14 +0200: > > Care to move this over to dev@ with a patch? > > > Will do, it might take a few days. > > Thanks to the other users for their suggestions but I don't think they'll > be general enough for my use case. > >>> Care to explain why patterns with negated character classes wouldn't work? > >> There's a difference between saying, "ignore everything except '*.doc'" > >> and "ignore '*.[^d][^o][^c]'". > > Did you read my previous message in this thread? If you have, then > > you've just committed a strawman, and that's unlike you. > > > > (And for the record, the complement of «*.doc» is > > «*[^c]|*[^o]c|*[^d]oc|*[^.]doc|».) > > |? There's no such operator in glob patterns. The pipes were shorthand for writing the disjuncts one per line in the property value. [And by the way, that complement is incomplete: it doesn't match "doc", "oc", and "c".] > >> You can't get the same result with negated character classes as with > >> pattrerns. > > I'm aware of that, and have said so in so many words, but the problem > > statement was "Ignore everything except XX* and YY*", and that _can_ be > > achieved with negated patterns. > > Well ok, sure, for any concrete pattern you can theoretically construct > its inverse with negated character classes (assuming an "or" operator > exists). But it's not always trivial nor practical. > I think it's worth exploring possible solutions that are also user- > friendly. I agree, but I'd still like to hear Daniel's answer to my question. > > At this point I'd rather wait for Daniel to answer my question and > > clarify his problem statement. > > I rather suspect that XX* and YY* were just general examples, not > concrete ones. So do I, but the solution I posted is generalizable, as you know. Brane, can we just put this thread on hold until Daniel replies? For me to explain why ruling out a proposed solution without stating a reason is not best practice would not be a good use of any of our times.
Re: Ignore every file except XX*
> > Care to move this over to dev@ with a patch? > > Will do, it might take a few days. I recommend to send dev@ the syntax you propose to implement before you actually implement it. Cheers, Daniel > Thanks to the other users for their suggestions but I don't think > they'll be general enough for my use case. > > / Daniel >
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