Re: Modifying svn:log property: good or bad?

2016-02-29 Thread webster.brent
Here's a basic sh script syntax.
 # Check forbidden mergeinfo paths
TXN_PATHS=$($SVNLOOK changed -t "$TXN" "$REPOS")

# Grep for paths *not* in merge-allowed levels: /trunk,
/branches/release/*,...
TXN_PATHS=$(echo "$TXN_PATHS" | grep -Ev "^trunk/?$" | grep -Ev
"^branches/release/\w+/?$" | grep -Ev "^branches/feature/\w+/?$")
for TXN_PATH in "$TXN_PATHS"
do
  ELEM_PATH=$(echo "$TXN_PATH" | cut -c 5-)
  MERGEINFO=$($SVNLOOK propget "$REPOS" svn:mergeinfo -t "$TXN" "$ELEM_PATH" 
2>/dev/null)
  if [ ! "$MERGEINFO" = "" ]; then fail_forbidden_mergeinfo_path;fi
done

 Brent

  From: Alfred von Campe 
 To: Eric Johnson  
Cc: Subversion Users 
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 2:22 PM
 Subject: Re: Modifying svn:log property: good or bad?
   
Eric:
Would you mind sharing your (redacted if necessary) commit hook that enforces 
the policies you mentioned?
Alfred

On Feb 26, 2016, at 14:01, Eric Johnson  wrote:
We definitely enforce restrictions. We also log all revprop changes.
Keep in mind that this information is key to establishing a historical record 
of what happened with your source code. If you're lawyers haven't advised you 
already, you might want to consider what happens if you ever get hauled into 
court, and need to testify about the quality of the historical information in 
your Subversion repositories. You want to keep the list of people that can 
change the revprops (and the revisions themselves) to an absolute minimum.
Eric.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Alfred von Campe  wrote:

Eric:
Thanks for the feedback.  Do you enforce just appending to the svn:log property 
or is that just the policy and everyone follows it?  Same question for 
modifying the other recprops: do you enforce it or is it just policy?
Alfred

On Feb 26, 2016, at 12:42, Eric Johnson  wrote:
We looked at this problem, and decided that typos were not sufficient reason to 
tamper with history.
However, committers sometimes forget critical information, such as the bug # 
associated with a commit, or other information critical to a useful audit trail.
To avoid losing history, and yet allow for such critical information, our 
work-around is to allow changes to the svn:log property, but only allow 
appending to existing contents. Once we put that in, people stopped complaining.
We don't allow users to change any other revprops.
Eric.
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 7:40 AM, Alfred von Campe  wrote:

Is modifying the unversioned svn:log property considered bad practice?  We’re 
about to upgrade to a new Subversion server at work, and the central group that 
manages that server will no longer allow modifications to unversioned 
properties.  Their main reason is so that third party tools like Jira and 
Crucible, that have daemons that scan check-in comments for keywords and index 
the results, don’t have to be re-run again to re-index updated commits.  They 
are recommending creating a property on all the files that were affected in a 
commit (the name/value of the property is not important), and then committing 
that change with the “correct” check-in comment.  I can see their point, but 
sometimes you just want to correct a minor typo in a commit log.

I’m just wondering what collective wisdom of this group is in regards to 
updating the svn:log property (or other unversioned properties)?

Thanks,
Alfred











  

Re: Modifying svn:log property: good or bad?

2016-02-29 Thread Alfred von Campe
Thanks to all who have shared their respective policies.  I’d be very 
interested to hear from the Subversion contributors themselves as to what the 
policy is for the Subversion repo.

Alfred



RE: Modifying svn:log property: good or bad?

2016-02-29 Thread Bert Huijben


> -Original Message-
> From: Alfred von Campe [mailto:alf...@von-campe.com]
> Sent: maandag 29 februari 2016 16:56
> To: webster.br...@rogers.com
> Cc: Eric Johnson ; Subversion Users
> 
> Subject: Re: Modifying svn:log property: good or bad?
> 
> Thanks to all who have shared their respective policies.  I’d be very
> interested to hear from the Subversion contributors themselves as to what
> the policy is for the Subversion repo.

Subversion is now hosted in the ASF wide repository of the Apache foundation, 
so we don't declare the policy ourselves. (Although I think the original 
Subversion developers were involved when this repository was created)

This repository allows changing the log message of revisions that apply to 
projects you are privileged to commit to. (I'm guessing it uses some custom 
scripting for this... not sure)

Before that we used a similar 'allow edit svn:log' policy for committers on the 
now disabled svn.collab.net server. I think propedits to other properties are 
denied.


All repository changes go through a commit mailer script, which sends out mails 
to the mailinglists of projects touched. For ^/subversion in the ASF repository 
that would be commits@subversion.a.o.


Bert