Re: subversion upgrade from 1.4.6 to 1.7

2011-09-21 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt

Am 21.09.2011 06:28, schrieb PR:

of course client side push to all the dev desktops with
subversion 1.7 will also be done simultaneously.


This is not necessary, you can switch one client first, then other 
clients and finally switch the server. BTW: 1.7 is still not yet 
released, though it's really really close now, AFAICT.




is it really that simple?


Yes, your approach is correct. I'd suggest testing that though, e.g. by 
using a separate system.




I had read about previous upgrades to 1.6 (from 1.4.x or 1.5 ) and that the
dump and load was mandatory ...


This is not mandatory, but the organisation of the repository changed to 
the better in recent versions, so a dump and reload is strongly 
suggested. In particular things like merge tracking have improved, IIRC.




I did try a quick repo tar and bring up in the new 1.7 rc3 subversion server
environment, access with file protocol and a local checkout and verified all
the subversion magic in place with the top level .svn, log with diff option,
the amazing checkout speeds and hence am really excited with the prospect of
quick move.

The only fact that left me a bit puzzled was that the repository format
still showed 5, inspite of doing a svnadmin verify with subversion 1.7 rc3
with no error reported, ...


Well, an "svnadmin verify" hopefully doesn't modify the repository.


Good luck!

Uli



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Re: subversion upgrade from 1.4.6 to 1.7

2011-09-21 Thread Hyrum K Wright
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:36 AM, Ulrich Eckhardt
 wrote:
> Am 21.09.2011 06:28, schrieb PR:
>>
>> of course client side push to all the dev desktops with
>> subversion 1.7 will also be done simultaneously.
>
> This is not necessary, you can switch one client first, then other clients
> and finally switch the server. BTW: 1.7 is still not yet released, though
> it's really really close now, AFAICT.
>
>
>> is it really that simple?
>
> Yes, your approach is correct. I'd suggest testing that though, e.g. by
> using a separate system.
>
>
>> I had read about previous upgrades to 1.6 (from 1.4.x or 1.5 ) and that
>> the
>> dump and load was mandatory ...
>
> This is not mandatory, but the organisation of the repository changed to the
> better in recent versions, so a dump and reload is strongly suggested. In
> particular things like merge tracking have improved, IIRC.

A dump / load when upgrading Subversion has never been mandatory.
There may have been added benefits from doing so, but old repositories
will continue to function under new versions of Subversion.  When
upgrading Subversion installations, I'd encourage you to read the
relevant release notes:
http://subversion.apache.org/docs/release-notes/

>> I did try a quick repo tar and bring up in the new 1.7 rc3 subversion
>> server
>> environment, access with file protocol and a local checkout and verified
>> all
>> the subversion magic in place with the top level .svn, log with diff
>> option,
>> the amazing checkout speeds and hence am really excited with the prospect
>> of
>> quick move.
>>
>> The only fact that left me a bit puzzled was that the repository format
>> still showed 5, inspite of doing a svnadmin verify with subversion 1.7 rc3
>> with no error reported, ...

This is no server-side format changes between 1.6 and 1.7.  Since you
are moving from 1.4 to 1.7, however, you may want to run 'svnadmin
upgrade' on the new repositories, to enable new features available
since 1.4.  This should all be covered in the relevant release notes.

-Hyrum

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Re: subversion upgrade from 1.4.6 to 1.7

2011-09-21 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt

Am 21.09.2011 11:00, schrieb Hyrum K Wright:
[repository upgrade]

Since you are moving from 1.4 to 1.7, however, you may want to run 'svnadmin
upgrade' on the new repositories, to enable new features available
since 1.4.


Wait: I was under the impression that this enabled new features _as far 
as possible_, but that some extensive internal changes (sharding? 
reverse deltas? something?) actually required a dump/load cycle to make 
full use of, or am I mistaken?


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Re: subversion upgrade from 1.4.6 to 1.7

2011-09-21 Thread Thorsten Schöning
Guten Tag PR,
am Mittwoch, 21. September 2011 um 06:28 schrieben Sie:

> The only fact that left me a bit puzzled was that the repository format
> still showed 5, inspite of doing a svnadmin verify with subversion 1.7 rc3
> with no error reported, ...

This is because svnadmin verify doesn't change anything and only
replacing the binaries won't either upgrade your repositories.
Upgrading them is a separate process, where you have to options:
svnadmin upgrade will just upgrade the repositories to the most
current version your binaries are capable of, but only with doing the
most minimal work needed, therefore you won't benefit of the new
improvements with the old versions. svnadmin dump & load will upgrade
you repositories with improvements for all your old versions, for
example less occupied space due to enabled rep-sharing. svnadmin
upgrade is pretty fast, svnadmin dump & load won't be in most cases,
of course depending on your repository sizes.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

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Re: subversion upgrade from 1.4.6 to 1.7

2011-09-21 Thread Hyrum K Wright
2011/9/21 Ulrich Eckhardt :
> Am 21.09.2011 11:00, schrieb Hyrum K Wright:
> [repository upgrade]
>>
>> Since you are moving from 1.4 to 1.7, however, you may want to run
>> 'svnadmin
>> upgrade' on the new repositories, to enable new features available
>> since 1.4.
>
> Wait: I was under the impression that this enabled new features _as far as
> possible_, but that some extensive internal changes (sharding? reverse
> deltas? something?) actually required a dump/load cycle to make full use of,
> or am I mistaken?

You're right: sharding may require a load to enable (though I seem to
recall a script somewhere would would do it to a live repo).

Things like packing can be enabled with a simple upgrade of the repository.

-Hyrum



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SVN dump & load vs ftp

2011-09-21 Thread Phil Pinkerton
Besides the time what is the advantage of svn dump & load vs ftp for 
moving a Repository to a new location ?


What type of  "clean-up" might take place to reduce disk space when 
using the dump & load method vs ftp ?





Re: SVN dump & load vs ftp

2011-09-21 Thread Mark Phippard
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Phil Pinkerton  wrote:
> Besides the time what is the advantage of svn dump & load vs ftp for moving
> a Repository to a new location ?
>
> What type of  "clean-up" might take place to reduce disk space when using
> the dump & load method vs ftp ?

Dump/Load of a repository using the same format repository should give
the same results.  If you are moving to a newer format repository
where there have been changes to reduce space then you might see a
reduction.  For example, repositories created with SVN 1.6 only stores
files whose contents are identical once.  This can potentially save
space depending on how many identical files you have.  The repository
format is not always changed to reduce space, so you really would have
to look at what the new format brings for changes.

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Re: SVN dump & load vs ftp

2011-09-21 Thread Thorsten Schöning
Guten Tag Phil Pinkerton,
am Mittwoch, 21. September 2011 um 13:26 schrieben Sie:

> What type of  "clean-up" might take place to reduce disk space when
> using the dump & load method vs ftp ?

This depends on the version of your old repository and the version
installed on the new location. Newer versions of Subversion, 1.6+ I
think, but I'm not sure, use and enable rep-sharing by default, for
example. Rep-sharing is some kind of deduplication mechanism.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Thorsten Schöning

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Citrix Access

2011-09-21 Thread Nigel at IT Works
Hi,

I have Subversion installed on a server and access with tortoisesvn clients.
Is it possible to setup and access remotely from Citrix XenApps if I move to
a remote location

.

Thanks

Nigel Smith

 



[no subject]

2011-09-21 Thread 韦余涛
Hello:
Subversion encountered a serious problem.

d:\development\svn\tortoisesvn\ext\subversion\subversion\libsvn_wc\update_editor.c
line 1582 assertion failed(action == svn_wc_confilict_action_edit || action = 
..)
wintra...@163.com
  2011-09-21





subersion exception

2011-09-21 Thread 韦余涛
usershello:
The latest version
---
Subversion Exception!
---
Subversion encountered a serious problem.
Please take the time to report this on the Subversion mailing list
(users@subversion.apache.org)
with as much information as possible about what
you were trying to do.
But please first search the mailing list archives for the error message
to avoid reporting the same problem repeatedly.
You can find the mailing list archives at
http://subversion.apache.org/mailing-lists.html

Subversion reported the following
(you can copy the content of this dialog
to the clipboard using Ctrl-C):

In file
 
'C:\Users\kueng\nightlybuilds\latest\TortoiseSVN\ext\subversion\subversion\libsvn_wc\update_editor.c'
 line 1582: assertion failed (action == svn_wc_conflict_action_edit || action
 == svn_wc_conflict_action_delete || action == svn_wc_conflict_action_replace)
wintra...@163.com
  2011-09-21





Network overlay icons

2011-09-21 Thread Adam Hird
Hi,
 
I was wondering if there is a way to enable network overlay icons for all 
machine users instead of each user needing to modify there settings?
 
Regards

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RE: Network overlay icons

2011-09-21 Thread Cooke, Mark
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Hird [mailto:a.h...@hull.ac.uk] 
> Sent: 21 September 2011 09:38
> To: users@subversion.apache.org
> Subject: Network overlay icons
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I was wondering if there is a way to enable network overlay 
> icons for all machine users instead of each user needing to 
> modify there settings?
>  
> Regards
> 
> Adam Hird
> 
Subversion does not provide any overlays.  You would be better to take this up 
with whoever supports whichever client you are using...  As you do not provide 
any information as to your platform or client or version, I'm afraid that is 
all I can suggest for now.

~ mark c



Re: subersion exception

2011-09-21 Thread Andy Levy
2011/9/20 韦余涛 :
> usershello:
> The latest version
> ---
> Subversion Exception!
> ---
> Subversion encountered a serious problem.
> Please take the time to report this on the Subversion mailing list
> (users@subversion.apache.org)
> with as much information as possible about what
> you were trying to do.
> But please first search the mailing list archives for the error message
> to avoid reporting the same problem repeatedly.
> You can find the mailing list archives at
> http://subversion.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>
> Subversion reported the following
> (you can copy the content of this dialog
> to the clipboard using Ctrl-C):
>
> In file
>  
> 'C:\Users\kueng\nightlybuilds\latest\TortoiseSVN\ext\subversion\subversion\libsvn_wc\update_editor.c'
>  line 1582: assertion failed (action == svn_wc_conflict_action_edit || action
>  == svn_wc_conflict_action_delete || action == svn_wc_conflict_action_replace)
> wintra...@163.com
>   2011-09-21

Please read the whole message. Especially the parts where it asks you
to include as much information as possible about what you're trying to
do (you have provided none), and to search the mailing list archives
(http://www.google.com/search?q=update_editor.c+line+1582)


AW: Citrix Access

2011-09-21 Thread Markus Schaber
Hi, Nigel,

Von: Nigel at IT Works [mailto:ni...@itworkscompany.com] 

> I have Subversion installed on a server and access with tortoisesvn
clients. Is it possible to setup and access remotely from Citrix XenApps
if I move to a remote location

What exactly do you want to setup or access remotely?

If you want to setup (maintain, configure?) the server remotely, it
depends on the server OS which method is used best for remote
administration.

To access the server remotely, you do not need any special XenApps or
other solution - SVN servers are able to serve remote machines as well
as local ones (using SSL encryption or VPN to secure it). You can simply
install TortoiseSVN on your local machine, and access the remote server
then.

If you want to access TortoiseSVN remotely: I did such things using VNC
and Windows RDP, so it should work with other solutions, too. But
remember when using those methods, your whole working environment should
be virtualized - it will not be possible to use a remote-accessed
TortoiseSVN to update a local working copy on your machine without
further tricks.


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Re: subversion exception

2011-09-21 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt
Thank you for your report!

> Please take the time to report this on the Subversion mailing list
> (users@subversion.apache.org) with as much information as possible
> about what you were trying to do.

Please consider the last part of this sentence, too...

> But please first search the mailing list archives for the error message
> to avoid reporting the same problem repeatedly.

...after of course considering this part of the message. ;)


As it is now, nobody can do much with this little information.

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Re: subversion upgrade from 1.4.6 to 1.7

2011-09-21 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Hyrum K Wright wrote on Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 05:44:33 -0500:
> 2011/9/21 Ulrich Eckhardt :
> > Am 21.09.2011 11:00, schrieb Hyrum K Wright:
> > [repository upgrade]
> >>
> >> Since you are moving from 1.4 to 1.7, however, you may want to run
> >> 'svnadmin
> >> upgrade' on the new repositories, to enable new features available
> >> since 1.4.
> >
> > Wait: I was under the impression that this enabled new features _as far as
> > possible_, but that some extensive internal changes (sharding? reverse
> > deltas? something?) actually required a dump/load cycle to make full use of,
> > or am I mistaken?
> 
> You're right: sharding may require a load to enable (though I seem to
> recall a script somewhere would would do it to a live repo).
> 
> Things like packing can be enabled with a simple upgrade of the repository.
> 

Except that sharding is a prerequisite to packing.


Request for a successfully configured or compiled 'client' of Apache Subversion 1.7.0-rc3 release for AIX

2011-09-21 Thread Rob Patten
Have tried to configure every release so far of Apache Subversion 1.7.0
for client with the same error given
for apr_util. Also have varied the configuration trying to satisfy the
error with each attempt on our AIX test servers.
None have ever completed without this error. If there is any correction
for our configuration or a completed compiled
version for AIX we would appreciate a link to it. We do appreciate all
the responses the group has provided for our
numerous attempts also. Our last base attempt at this latest version.
Please note we had already successfully run the
get-deps.sh for dependencies:


r...@sligo.ncdc.noaa.gov:/tmp/subversion-1.7.0-rc3 ->ls -l
total 3728
-rw-rw-r--1 3300 3300  0 Sep 09 16:40 .swig_checked
-rw-rw-r--1 3300 3300 94 Feb 22 2010  BUGS
-rw-rw-r--1 3300 3300 187437 Sep 09 16:39 CHANGES
-rw-rw-r--1 3300 3300  12956 Jun 27 11:16 COMMITTERS
-rw-rw-r--1 3300 3300  64417 Jul 08 05:40 INSTALL
-rw-rw-r--1 3300 3300  14214 Feb 03 2010  LICENSE
-rw-rw-r--1 3300 3300  34568 Jul 16 07:50 Makefile.in
-rw-rw-r--1 3300 3300593 Mar 27 23:54 NOTICE
-rw-rw-r--1 3300 3300   2301 Jun 30 13:54 README
-rw-rw-r--1 3300 3300   2028 Dec 07 2009  aclocal.m4
drwxr-xr-x   25 1000 1000   1536 Sep 20 14:13 apr
drwxr-xr-x   19 1000 1000   1024 May 19 10:58 apr-util
-rwxrwxr-x1 3300 3300   6256 Jul 04 06:24 autogen.sh
drwxrwxr-x6 3300 3300   1024 Sep 09 16:41 build
-rw-rw-r--1 3300 3300 568820 Sep 09 16:41 build-outputs.mk
-rw-rw-r--1 3300 3300  34702 Aug 04 16:18 build.conf
-rw-rw-r--1 root system16090 Sep 20 14:13 config.log
-rwxrwxr-x1 root system  267 Sep 20 14:06 config.nice
-rwxrwxr-x1 3300 3300 790822 Sep 09 16:41 configure
-rw-rw-r--1 3300 3300  46675 Aug 17 09:01 configure.ac
drwxrwxr-x4 3300 3300512 Sep 09 16:40 doc
-rw-rw-r--1 3300 3300 23 Sep 09 16:41 gen-make.opts
-rwxrwxr-x1 3300 3300  10604 Mar 25 2011  gen-make.py
-rwxrwxr-x1 3300 3300   3444 Jun 25 20:23 get-deps.sh
drwxrwxr-x7 500  cfgsoft1024 May 03 08:25 neon
drwxr-xr-x6 1000 1000512 Mar 12 2011  serf
drwxr-xr-x2 root system  512 May 19 09:35
sqlite-amalgamation
drwxrwxr-x   33 3300 3300   1024 Sep 09 16:41 subversion
drwxrwxr-x   14 3300 3300512 Sep 09 16:40 tools
-rw-rw-r--1 3300 3300  27426 Jul 12 14:30 win-tests.py
drwxr-xr-x   12 csi_acct perf   1536 Apr 20 2010  zlib
r...@sligo.ncdc.noaa.gov:/tmp/subversion-1.7.0-rc3 ->

r...@sligo.ncdc.noaa.gov:/tmp/subversion-1.7.0-rc3 ->export
CC=/usr/vac/bin/xlc
r...@sligo.ncdc.noaa.gov:/tmp/subversion-1.7.0-rc3 ->./configure \
> --with-ssl \
> --with-zlib \
> --with-apr \
> --with-apr-util \
> --without-berkeley-db \
> --without-serf \
> --without-swig \
> --disable-nls \
> --disable-shared \
> --prefix=/usr/local/subversion
configure: Configuring Subversion 1.7.0
configure: creating config.nice
checking for gcc... /usr/vac/bin/xlc
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking for suffix of executables...
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... no
checking whether /usr/vac/bin/xlc accepts -g... yes
checking for /usr/vac/bin/xlc option to accept ISO C89... none needed
checking for g++... no
checking for c++... no
checking for gpp... no
checking for aCC... no
checking for CC... no
checking for cxx... no
checking for cc++... no
checking for cl.exe... no
checking for FCC... no
checking for KCC... no
checking for RCC... no
checking for xlC_r... no
checking for xlC... no
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no
checking whether g++ accepts -g... no
checking how to run the C preprocessor... /usr/vac/bin/xlc -E
checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /bin/sed
checking build system type... powerpc-ibm-aix5.3.0.0
checking host system type... powerpc-ibm-aix5.3.0.0
checking target system type... powerpc-ibm-aix5.3.0.0
checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /bin/grep
checking for egrep... /bin/grep -E
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /opt/freeware/bin/install -c
configure: Apache Portable Runtime (APR) library configuration
checking for APR... configure: error: --with-apr requires a directory or
file to be provided
r...@sligo.ncdc.noaa.gov:/tmp/subversion-1.7.0-rc3 ->./configure \
> --with-ssl \
> --with-zlib \
> --with-apr \
> --with-apr-util=/tmp/subversion-1.7.0-rc3/apr-util/xml/expat \
> --without-berkeley-db \
> --without-serf \
> --without-swig \
> --disable-nls 

Re: Difference between Dump & Load and an FTP'd Repository ?

2011-09-21 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Phil Pinkerton  wrote:
> I here there are some advantage to both.
>
>
> My primary interest to to save disk space with heavily modified
> Repositories.
>
> What exactly get's "Cleaned-up" when doing a dump & load?
>
> Besides the "time" savings what is the real difference between a the 2
> methods ?
>
> Phil

You can do updates and leave out troublesome revisions in a dump and
load. The new repository also does not have the same uuid, which helps
prevent "split brain" problems, which will bite you at the *worst*
possible moments.

Also, "ftp" is not a good tool for this: individual file transfers may
fail and cause chaos. If you have to mirror a repository by file
transfer, use "rsync", which preserves symlinks and hardlinks and file
ownership in ways that a load/dump or simple FTP transfer can only do
with considerable extra effort..


Re: SVN dump & load vs ftp

2011-09-21 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Mark Phippard  wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Phil Pinkerton  wrote:
>> Besides the time what is the advantage of svn dump & load vs ftp for moving
>> a Repository to a new location ?
>>
>> What type of  "clean-up" might take place to reduce disk space when using
>> the dump & load method vs ftp ?
>
> Dump/Load of a repository using the same format repository should give
> the same results.  If you are moving to a newer format repository

Dump/load does *not* reproduce hook scripts or authenticaton
configuratons, that kind of repository metadata has to be mirrored
separately. Even "hotcopy" doesn't handle file ownership completely.

> where there have been changes to reduce space then you might see a
> reduction.  For example, repositories created with SVN 1.6 only stores
> files whose contents are identical once.  This can potentially save
> space depending on how many identical files you have.  The repository
> format is not always changed to reduce space, so you really would have
> to look at what the new format brings for changes.
>
> --
> Thanks
>
> Mark Phippard
> http://markphip.blogspot.com/
>