[Tutor] help with exercise 15 of zed shaw's LPTHW

2016-07-05 Thread lohecn
hey everyone. this is my first time trying this -- actually, I've been 
studying python only for some days now, and I'm afraid my questions are going 
to be rally simple, but I can't seem to understand this piece of code and 
thus can't move on.

you probably know the book, so you know that zed always makes us write code 
so that then we can understand how it works, and it's great, but in this 
exercise there are just too many new functions and without explanation they 
are a bit hard to understand... so I'm having trouble with most of the lines 
here.

it's not that I want the full explanation to that code, but since I'm 
unfamiliar with some of its concepts, I'm just going to tell you all the 
things that I don't understand (sorry for it being a lot):
1. the need to put script into an estipulation for argv (line 3)
2. the what is txt and why it has to be used there (line 4)
3. txt.read() -- which are all new functions(? I dont even know what they 
are)  (line 7)
4. file_again (line 10)
5. txt_again (line 12)
and line 14.

as you can see, it's pretty much everything. sorry about that.
I'd really appreciate any help at all!
thanks a lot,

heloisa
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Re: [Tutor] help with exercise 15 of zed shaw's LPTHW

2016-07-06 Thread lohecn
first, sorry everyone for having attached the file instead of just typing it 
here.
second, thanks a lot for the replies; even though I gave you no code it was 
quite helpful!
the code was this:

from sys import argv

script, filename = argv
txt = open (filename)

print "Here's your file %r: " % filename
print txt.read()

print "Type the filename again: "
file_again = raw_input("> ")

txt_again = open(file_again)

print txt_again.read()

Peter Otten explained it to me line by line [thanks so much :)] however, I do 
have one more question:
why do I have to create a variable txt_again to assign it to the open 
function and them print the file?
why is it that I can't only write something like open(file_again).read()?


6. Jul 2016 05:22 by __pete...@web.de:


> loh...@tuta.io>  wrote:
>
>> hey everyone. this is my first time trying this -- actually, I've been
>> studying python only for some days now, and I'm afraid my questions are
>> going to be rally simple, but I can't seem to understand this piece of
>> code and thus can't move on.
>
> You seem to be talking about
>
> http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/ex15.html
>
> """
> from sys import argv
>
> script, filename = argv
>
> txt = open(filename)
>
> print "Here's your file %r:" % filename
> print txt.read()
>
> print "Type the filename again:"
> file_again = raw_input("> ")
>
> txt_again = open(file_again)
>
> print txt_again.read()
> """
>
> As others said, always provide the code you are asking about, or if that is
> not possible at least provide a link.
>
>> you probably know the book, so you know that zed always makes us write
>> code so that then we can understand how it works, and it's great, but in
>> this exercise there are just too many new functions and without
>> explanation they are a bit hard to understand... so I'm having trouble
>> with most of the lines here.
>>
>> it's not that I want the full explanation to that code, but since I'm
>> unfamiliar with some of its concepts, I'm just going to tell you all the
>> things that I don't understand (sorry for it being a lot):
>> 1. the need to put script into an estipulation for argv (line 3)
>
> Write a script tmp.py containing
>
> from sys import argv
> print argv
>
> then call it with with one parameter, e. g.
>
> $ python tmp.py somefile.txt
> ['tmp.py', 'somefile.txt']
>
> As you can see argv is a list with two items, the first being "tmp.py", the
> name of the script you are invoking. You are only interested in the second
> one, the filename. The easy way to get that is
>
> filename = argv[1]
>
> the hard way is to use "unpacking"
>
> script, filename = argv
>
> where python will assign one item from the list on the right to every name
> on the left:
>
 items = ["foo", "bar"]
 one, two = items
 one
> 'foo'
 two
> 'bar'
>
> What happens if the number of names on the left doesn't match the number of
> items in the list?
>
 one, two, three = items
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "", line 1, in 
> ValueError: need more than 2 values to unpack
>
> You get an exception. That is why you have to provide the name "script" in
> Zed's example even though you are not actually interested in the script
> name.
>
>> 2. the what is txt and why it has to be used there (line 4)
>
> txt is a file object and
>
>> 3. txt.read() -- which are all new functions(? I dont even know what they
>> are)  (line 7)
>
> read() is a method that here reads the whole file into a string. You use 
> the
> open() function to open a file and usually assign the file object that is
> returned by open to a name. You can freely choose that name. The structure
> is the same for every object, be it a number:
>
> x = 42  # assign a number to x
> y = x + x  # do some arithmetic with x and assign the result to y
> print y  # print the result
>
> a list:
>
> mynumbers = list()  # create a list
> mynumbers.append(42)  # append a number to the list
> print mynumbers  # print the list
>
> or a file:
>
> myfile = open("example.txt")  # open the file example.txt in the current
>   # working directory. If the file doesn't 
> exist
>   # you get an error
>
> print "first line:", myfile.readline()  # read the first line and print it
> print "rest of the file:"
> print myfile.read()  # read the rest of the file and print it
>
> myfile.close()  # close the file
>
>> 4. file_again (line 10)
>> 5. txt_again (line 12)
>> and line 14.
>
> 4. and 5. are just a repetition of the first part, with the variation that
> the filename, assigned to file_again is read interactively with raw_input()
> instead of passing it as a commandline argument to the script.
>
> The names used can be freely chosen by the programmer, a script
>
> from sys import argv
>
> red_apple, my_hat = argv
>
> blue_suede_shoes = open(my_hat)
> print blue_suede_shoes.read()
> blue_suede_shoes.close()
>
> would work exactly like the first part of the hard-way example. However,
> picking descrip