Re: [Tutor] Which Designer

2010-04-25 Thread eire1130






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From: Sharon 
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:34:56 
To: Tutor Python
Subject: [Tutor] Which Designer

Hi,
I am a newbie to python but would like to use a designer for 
simplicity.  Which would be the easiest to use:

WxGlade
Qt 4 Designer
Glade Interface Designer (Gtk)

At this point in time I would be looking at the simplest for a newbie 
until my programming skills in Python improve.  Appreciate a few 
opinions on this.

Regards

Sharon
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Re: [Tutor] Importing sub modules

2011-03-31 Thread eire1130
You could just use from os import path and use it like path.xxx

I don't know know if it saves on overhead or not.

In any event, you shouldn't be worrying about something like overhead until 
after your base prorgram is written.

Generally if all I use is path, for example, I use from import. If not I just 
import the enchilada

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From: "Prasad, Ramit" 
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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:11:50 
To: 'Emile van Sebille'; 'tutor@python.org'
Subject: Re: [Tutor] Importing sub modules

The joins are really just random calls. I was just curious if importing os.path 
could avoid any reading/overhead that might occur by importing os.


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On 3/31/2011 11:07 AM Prasad, Ramit said...
> Hi everyone,
> I was wondering if there is a difference in
>
>>>> import os
>>>> os.path.join(string1,string2)
> AND
>>>> import os.path
>>>> os.path.join(string1,string2)
>
>


A quick test shows they're the same:

ActivePython 2.6.6.15 (ActiveState Software Inc.) based on
Python 2.6.6 (r266:84292, Aug 24 2010, 16:01:11) [MSC v.1500 32 bit 
(Intel)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
 >>> import os as os1
 >>> import os.path
 >>> os1.path is os.path
True
 >>>

Although I'm not sure what to make of the joins  What are you trying to do?


Emile



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Re: [Tutor] Looking for feedback on improving my code.

2011-05-17 Thread eire1130
Pretty cool how that site makes code formating wotk on my bb.

The big thing I've noticed is, and I'm a total newbie btw, mind cap 
conventions. 
Use camel case and upper case and whatnot for class definitions. I think its a 
wothwhile habit to pick up. I keep thinking you're instantiating a class when 
you just calling a func.

Instead of going string equals string plus cloud, you can go string plusequals 
cloud.

I would toss the entire thing in a class. And make the funcs methods of your 
class.



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Re: [Tutor] Help with making emacs work with python syntax checking?

2011-07-04 Thread eire1130
I second this.

I have a second harddrive with Mint on it. Ithought it might be fun to learn 
emacs. On windows I've been using eclipse for like 6 to 12 months or however 
long ago I started.

I tried emacs for about two seconds and was like, uh no thanks. Downloaded and 
set up eclipse and I'm still happy. Other than it took too long to set up in 
mint

Bonus is I can use it django as well.


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Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 23:59:48 
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"Tidal Espeon"  wrote 

>I need help with installing this setup on my emacs:

Why do you want this? Are you already an emacs 
user? If so then fine, go ahead. But if you do not 
already use emacs, lerarning it will be a big effort. 
emacs is a big, powerful tool and once you know 
it you can use it for almost everything. But its not 
something you can learn to use quickly.

> The problem is that I have no clue how to 
> access any .emacs file or .emacs.d

Which strongly suggests you are not n emacs regular. 
If you were you would be editing .emacs regularly!

> the IDLE just doesn't cut it for me.

There are lots of other development enmvirobnments around.
If you are a typical GUI user, which it sounds as if you are, 
then a tool liker Eclipse, (or maybe Blackadder or .Wing or SPE)
might be more appropriate. They are powerful but GUI 
oriented rather than command oriented.

Frankly if you are not already an emacs user, or unless 
you want to make emacs you standard environment 
in the future and will spend the time changing your 
computing habits to suit emacs, I'd give up and find 
a more GUI friendly tool set!

And I say that as someone who is an emacs (and vim) user!
emacs is a powerful tool and a great programmer's 
environment, but it's not for the faint hearted.

HTH,

-- 
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Re: [Tutor] newbie needs pypy setup tips

2011-07-30 Thread eire1130
I think, but not 100 percent, that pypy has a list. You might get better 
traction there if you don't get a good *nswer here.

Although I have a couple questions. Have you profiled in python to look for 
hotspots?

Have you tried writting portions in c?

What kind of model is it, out of curiousity.
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I need advice about configuring pypy to run other python code. Why I ask:

I'm running a model implemented in python. Unfortunately a run on "straight" 
python 2.6.x or 2.7.x requires

- 130 min on my ubuntu laptop (on which working would be more convenient)
- 55 min on a better build machine on which I currently have access

However I have read that this model runs 5x faster under pypy, so I wanna get 
me that, but I'm finding the pypy docs pretty inscrutable. Nevertheless, I have 
managed to do

me@it:~$ uname -rv
> 2.6.32-33-generic #70-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 7 21:13:52 UTC 2011
me@it:~$ which pypy
> /usr/local/bin/pypy
me@it:~$ ls -al $(which pypy)
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 2011-07-30 16:06 /usr/local/bin/pypy -> 
> /opt/pypy-c-jit-1.5.0-alpha0/bin/pypy
me@it:~$ pypy --version
> Python 2.7.1 (b590cf6de419, Apr 30 2011, 02:00:34)
> [PyPy 1.5.0-alpha0 with GCC 4.4.3]

However, when I try to *really* run the @#$%^&! thing, it spews:

me@it:~$ pypy
> debug: WARNING: library path not found, using compiled-in sys.path and 
> sys.prefix will be unset
> 'import site' failed
> Python 2.7.1 (b590cf6de419, Apr 30 2011, 02:00:34)
> [PyPy 1.5.0-alpha0 with GCC 4.4.3] on linux2
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> debug: OperationError:
> debug:  operror-type: ImportError
> debug:  operror-value: No module named _pypy_interact

What do I need to do to fix its library path?

TIA, Tom Roche 
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Re: [Tutor] How do I learn python for web development

2011-07-31 Thread eire1130
There are several books om django. This is what you are looking for


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Hi guys,

I am really interested in switching from PHP to python but there don't appear 
to be a book for such.

Can anyone advice me please.

Abdulhakim.
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   4. Re: newbie needs pypy setup tips (eire1...@gmail.com)
   5. Re: Mainloop conflict (Christopher King)
   6. Re: Mainloop conflict (Stefan Behnel)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:25:27 +1000
From: Steven D'Aprano 
To: tutor@python.org
Subject: Re: [Tutor] How to make tkMessage function to have duration
Message-ID: <4e33ea27.50...@pearwood.info>
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Emeka wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> Say I have the below(code),  I would want the message to last say 30
> seconds and afterwards disappear. I won't want the user to be the one to
> enable it to disappear.
> 
> Basically, what I want is to be able to show the user some message , and
> after some seconds, the message goes away

I *hate* it when applications do that. Just as I'm trying to read the 
message, take a screen shot, or whatever, the message disappears. I 
think that's one of the worst things you can do in an application.

If the message isn't important enough to require it to stay visible 
until the user explicitly closes it, then it shouldn't go into a dialog 
in the first place.



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Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:27:21 +0100
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Steven,,


Thanks!


Emeka

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

> Emeka wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Say I have the below(code),  I would want the message to last say 30
>> seconds and afterwards disappear. I won't want the user to be the one to
>> enable it to disappear.
>>
>> Basically, what I want is to be able to show the user some message , and
>> after some seconds, the message goes away
>>
>
> I *hate* it when applications do that. Just as I'm trying to read the
> message, take a screen shot, or whatever, the message disappears. I think
> that's one of the worst things you can do in an application.
>
> If the message isn't important enough to require it to stay visible until
> the user explicitly closes it, then it shouldn't go into a dialog in the
> first place.
>
>
>
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I need advice about configuring pypy to run other python code. Why I ask:

I'm running a model implemented in python. Unfortunately a run on "straight" 
python 2.6.x or 2.7.x requires

- 130 min on my ubuntu laptop

Re: [Tutor] Accessing Specific Dictionary items

2011-08-01 Thread eire1130
I'm not sure I'm following. Could you give an example of expected input and 
expected output?


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Subject: [Tutor] Accessing Specific Dictionary items

Hi all,

I'm trying to access and use specific items within a dictionary that
is returned but am having issues in doing so.
[{'city': 'Sunnyvale', 'region_name': 'CA', 'area_code': 408,
'metro_code': 'Santa Clara, CA', 'country_name': 'United States'}]

How can I populate a list of many different returns so that I have a
list that contains all the cities and in line with the item that is
referenced.

The first step is to populate the list unsorted as it needs to be in
correlation to the item that it came from.
Thanks for your help.

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Re: [Tutor] Accessing Specific Dictionary items

2011-08-01 Thread eire1130
Dictionaries are objects and you access their attributes through keys.

So, let's say I had a dict: d = {'city':'plattsburgh'}

I would thus access the attribute by doing this 

d['city']

You can store that value to a variable

Or you can append to a list directly.

l = []

for d in yourdict:
 l.append(d['city'])


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Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:26:32 
To: ian douglas
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Tutor] Accessing Specific Dictionary items

The input being used is through pygeoip.
Using this I am pulling the data by IP and from what I am reading this
populates as a dictionary.

Here is some of the output that I can show currently
[{'city': 'Buena Park', 'region_name': 'CA', 'area_code': 714},
{'city': 'Wallingford', 'region_name': 'CT', 'area_code': 203},
{'city': 'Schenectady', 'region_name': 'NY', 'area_code': 518},
{'city': 'Athens', 'region_name': '35'}]

I'd like to have an output similar to this:
'Buena Park', 'Wallingford', 'Schenectady','Athens' pulled by the
"city" keys that are used in the returns. I think the easiest way to
approach this would be simply to use the .append and populate a list
but I don't know how to pull an item by key value from the dictionary
returns.

I hope this helps clear some confusion and thanks in advance.


On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 15:14, ian douglas  wrote:
> On 08/01/2011 03:05 PM, Mike Nickey wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm trying to access and use specific items within a dictionary that
>> is returned but am having issues in doing so.
>> [{'city': 'Sunnyvale', 'region_name': 'CA', 'area_code': 408,
>> 'metro_code': 'Santa Clara, CA', 'country_name': 'United States'}]
>>
>> How can I populate a list of many different returns so that I have a
>> list that contains all the cities and in line with the item that is
>> referenced.
>>
>> The first step is to populate the list unsorted as it needs to be in
>> correlation to the item that it came from.
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>
>
> Could you give us examples of what you want the list to look like? It will
> help us direct you to an answer.
>



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Re: [Tutor] password loop

2011-09-23 Thread eire1130

The while condition is never true when you enter the correct password. So the 
while loop is evaluated False and is never triggered.



What you should do, as a general rule of troubleshooting, is to use print 
statements. So print the two outcomes and print the boolean evaluation

I'm assuming when it is false that it prints 'try again'  infinitely.




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Re: [Tutor] arrary stastic

2011-10-04 Thread eire1130
I don't understand what you want

Mayybe give expected output as well


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Re: [Tutor] Physics Engine

2011-11-22 Thread eire1130
I think python- ogre has a physics engine? Its 3d though

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[Tutor] Fw: Splitting a Tuple in Python 2.7

2011-12-05 Thread eire1130
Meant to send to group
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Subject: Re: [Tutor] Splitting a Tuple in Python 2.7

s =(1,2)

x = s[0] 

Printing x above will print the digit 1.

You cando the same for the second index as well


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Re: [Tutor] want to chat with someone - phone, skype, or email

2012-01-02 Thread eire1130

On the python site there is a tutorial called, something like, a non-programers 
guide to python. That is how I started to learn. I then bought somw beginer 
books. I then thought of some problems I wanted to solve and like eighteen 
months later I'm still working on those problems, but along the way I've 
learned a lot

Sorry, I won't skype with you as fun as that sounds =)

 Also I'm replying on my bb so I can't scroll to the bottom.



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[Tutor] Fw: Namespace question

2012-01-20 Thread eire1130

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To: Tino Dai
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Subject: Re: [Tutor] Namespace question

Is there any reason you broke up settings? My understanding is each app gets 
its own settings file, but then I don't have a project with more than one app 
residing in it.

Multiple apps is the only reason I can see to break it up. I think you should 
try this same question on django-users (I follow that list as well)

At any rate, have you tried from settings import settings like emile suggested, 
your worries notwithstanding?





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Re: [Tutor] how I overcame the problem "I cannot run Python programs"

2012-03-15 Thread eire1130

That's the nature of things I'm afraid. 

I do about half of my development on windows. My recomendation, download 
eclipse and install pydev. IDE choice is always a touchy subject but for 
windows, this should be your choice.

I have notepad++ as well. Its great. But eclipse is better, especially for 
learning. I can't describe how much it helped me.




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Re: [Tutor] Translating R Code to Python-- reading in csv files, writing out to csv files

2012-05-19 Thread eire1130
I confese I haven't read your entire email, but have you looked at pyR? I 
believe it is a wrapper for python, giiving you access to r.


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From: Benjamin G 
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Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 13:46:42 
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Subject: [Tutor] Translating R Code to Python-- reading in csv files,
 writing out to csv files

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