Re: [Tutor] looking for tutor

[Ken G.]

maxwell hansen wrote:
I have a decent amount of knowledge with QBASIC and am looking for a 
tutor who can help me learn the pythonic equivalent of QBASIC features 
and commands such as COLOR, LOCATE, IF...THEN, GOTO, loops, etc. as 
well as visual things and objects, which arent available in QBASIC 
(due to it being mostly text oriented). I would really appreciate 
this, as I am greatly enjoying learning python so far, but I really 
really need someone to help me along. thanks!


-maxwell


May I suggest ( http://inventwithpython.com/ ) that features Graphics 
and Animation in Chapter 16.


Ken
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[Tutor] Future Appointments...

[Ken G.]

Below is a program to determine when my next appointment is.  Line 
numbers are provided for reference only.


01  import time, datetime, sys
02  from datetime import date
03  today = date.today()
04  print
05  print "Today date is:", today
06  todaystr = str(today)
07  print
08  print "Corrected date format is:",
09  print todaystr[ 5: 7], todaystr[ 8:10], todaystr[ 0: 4]
10  print
11  future = raw_input("Next appointment is in how many days?  "),
12  print
13  difference1 = datetime.timedelta(days=1)
14  datestring = str(today + difference1)
15  print "Next appointment after that is:",datestring
16  print
17  print "Corrected date format for next appointment is:",
18  print datestring[ 5: 7], datestring[ 8:10], datestring[ 0: 4]
19  sys.exit()

In answering the question in line 11 as to when is my next appointment, 
I would answer "3" (for 2/3/2010) but how do I change "days=1" at end of 
line 13 to "days=3" so that datestring would read "2010-02-03" instead 
of "2010-02-01" as presented above?


TIA,

Ken
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[Tutor] Complied Python program...

[Ken G.]

In using Geany, I have the ability to complied a Python program.  For 
example, I can complied "program.py" to program.pyc."


What is the purpose of a complied Python program?  Can it be transported 
to another computer without Python installed as run as it is?  For 
example, use "run program.pyc" in Windows?  Currently, I am using Ubuntu 
9.04, a Linux OS.


TIA,

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Future Appointments...

[Ken G.]

Sorry, I forgot to hit Reply All.


That is so cool!  My first look at 'pastebin.'  THANKS!

I already finished the code up several hours ago.  If I can figure out 
how to post it there.



Ken



Robert Berman wrote:

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[mailto:tutor-bounces+bermanrl=cfl.rr@python.org] On Behalf Of Ken G.
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 10:41 AM
To: tutor@python.org
Subject: [Tutor] Future Appointments...

Below is a program to determine when my next appointment is.  Line 
numbers are provided for reference only.


01  import time, datetime, sys
02  from datetime import date
03  today = date.today()
04  print
05  print "Today date is:", today
06  todaystr = str(today)
07  print
08  print "Corrected date format is:",
09  print todaystr[ 5: 7], todaystr[ 8:10], todaystr[ 0: 4]
10  print
11  future = raw_input("Next appointment is in how many days?  "),
12  print
13  difference1 = datetime.timedelta(days=1)
14  datestring = str(today + difference1)
15  print "Next appointment after that is:",datestring
16  print
17  print "Corrected date format for next appointment is:",
18  print datestring[ 5: 7], datestring[ 8:10], datestring[ 0: 4]
19  sys.exit()

In answering the question in line 11 as to when is my next appointment, 
I would answer "3" (for 2/3/2010) but how do I change "days=1" at end of 
line 13 to "days=3" so that datestring would read "2010-02-03" instead 
of "2010-02-01" as presented above?


TIA,

Ken
*

Hi Ken,

I slightly altered your program. I think this is what you asked for. It will
work for n number of days; for example, 1, 10, 45, 118, 412 work nicely.

See code here: http://pastebin.com/m6e78d3ce

Robert


  

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[Tutor] rstrip in list?

[Ken G.]

I printed out some random numbers to a list and use 'print mylist' and
they came out like this:

['102\n', '231\n', '463\n', '487\n', '555\n', '961\n']

I was using 'print mylist.rstrip()' to strip off the '\n'

but kept getting an error of :

AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'rstrip'

My memory must be hazy but I thought I had it working several months ago.

Any idea or suggestion?

TIA, Ken

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Re: [Tutor] rstrip in list?

[Ken G.]

Kent Johnson wrote:

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Ken G.  wrote:
  

I printed out some random numbers to a datafile and use 'print mylist' and
they came out like this:

['102\n', '231\n', '463\n', '487\n', '555\n', '961\n']



How are you generating this list? You should be able to create it
without the \n. That would be better than stripping them out.
  

I inputting some random numbers into a database and then created a list
and appended the list as it read the database.
  

I was using 'print mylist.rstrip()' to strip off the '\n'

but kept getting an error of :

AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'rstrip'

My memory must be hazy but I thought I had it working several months ago.

Any idea or suggestion?



Use a list comprehension or map():

In [1]: l = ['102\n', '231\n', '463\n', '487\n', '555\n', '961\n']

In [2]: [ i.rstrip() for i in l ]
Out[2]: ['102', '231', '463', '487', '555', '961']

In [3]: map(str.rstrip, l)
Out[3]: ['102', '231', '463', '487', '555', '961']

Kent
  


My database file has numbers of the same exact length that need to be 
sorted.  I am using
'mylist.sort()' as one of the command.  Actually, I will be using 
'mylist.reverse' after

that command.  I am still in a learning mode.  Thanks.

Ken



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Re: [Tutor] rstrip in list? (SOLVED)

[Ken G.]

There was so many different solutions presented here to me.

Thanks to all.  By adding '.strip('\n') to the last two lines below, it 
came out:


Sorted List

['102', '231', '463', '487', '555', '961']

for line in file.readlines():
   print line.strip('\n'),
   mylist.append(line.strip('\n'))

Further work and studying needed here.   LOL.

Ken

Steven D'Aprano wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:28:43 am Ken G. wrote:
  

I printed out some random numbers to a list and use 'print mylist'
and they came out like this:

['102\n', '231\n', '463\n', '487\n', '555\n', '961\n']

I was using 'print mylist.rstrip()' to strip off the '\n'

but kept getting an error of :

AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'rstrip'



You have to apply rstrip to each item in the list, not the list itself.

Here are two ways to do it:

#1: modify the list in a for-loop 
for i, item in enumerate(mylist):

mylist[i] = item.rstrip()

#2: make a new list with a list comprehension
mylist = [item.rstrip() for item in mylist]


Of the two, I prefer the second.



  
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[Tutor] Embarrassed...

[Ken G.]

I am a little embarrassed.  I just happen to found a program I wrote in 
December that create random numbers into a file, copy the numbers into a 
list, print the numbers unsorted and sorted from the list without 
printing '\n'.  Nevertheless, I do thanks you all for trying to help me out.


Ken


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Re: [Tutor] Bowing out

[Ken G.]

Thanks for helping out.  I enjoyed readying your posts.  Good luck on 
your future endeavors.


Ken

Kent Johnson wrote:
Hi all,

After six years of tutor posts my interest and energy have waned and
I'm ready to move on to something new. I'm planning to stop reading
and contributing to the list. I have handed over list moderation
duties to Alan Gauld and Wesley Chun.

Thanks to everyone who contributes questions and answers. I learned a
lot from my participation here.

So long and keep coding!
Kent
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[Tutor] Changing the value in a list

[Ken G.]

If the following program change list[2] to 2010, replacing 1997 (and it 
does), why doesn't the second program work in changing line[ 9:11] to 20 
from 08? 


FIRST PROGRAM:

   list = ['physics', 'chemistry', 1997, 2000]
   print list[2]
   list[2] = 2010
   print list[2]

OUTPUT:

   1997
   2010

SECOND PROGRAM:
   line = [2010020820841134]
   if line[ 9:11] == "08":
   line[ 9:11] = 20
   print line[ 9:11]

OUTPUT:

   "TypeError: 'str' object does not support item assignment."


Thanking you all in advance,

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Changing the value in a list

[Ken G.]

Okay, now, it is understood.  Thanks.

Ken

Andre Engels wrote:

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Ken G.  wrote:
  

If the following program change list[2] to 2010, replacing 1997 (and it
does), why doesn't the second program work in changing line[ 9:11] to 20
from 08?
FIRST PROGRAM:

  list = ['physics', 'chemistry', 1997, 2000]
  print list[2]
  list[2] = 2010
  print list[2]

OUTPUT:

  1997
  2010

SECOND PROGRAM:
  line = [2010020820841134]
  if line[ 9:11] == "08":
  line[ 9:11] = 20
  print line[ 9:11]

OUTPUT:

  "TypeError: 'str' object does not support item assignment."


Thanking you all in advance,



First, you seem to have made a mistake in copying your programs: In
the second program to get your error message,

line = [2010020820841134]

should read

line = "2010020820841134"

As for your question: The error message already says it better than I
do: If x is a string, then x[9] =  is not allowed, nor is
x[9:11] = .


  
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Re: [Tutor] Changing the value in a list

[Ken G.]

Okay, I understand now.  Thanks!

Ken

Steve Willoughby wrote:

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:32:45AM -0500, Ken G. wrote:
  

   list = ['physics', 'chemistry', 1997, 2000]



This is a list of 4 elements, and lists allow elements to
be changed, so

  

   list[2] = 2010



Will change the value of list to be ['physics','chemistry',1997,2010]

  

   line = [2010020820841134]



Is this one right, or did you mean '2010020820841134'?  What is shown is
a list of one element.  Assuming you meant it to be a string, that would
give the error you quote below.

Strings are immutable objects, meaning that once they are created you can't
change them, although you can construct new strings from them, so if you
wanted to make a string which had characters 9 and 10 replaced with "08"
you could say:
  line = line[:9]+"08"+line[11:]

  
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Re: [Tutor] First program

[Ken G.]

I am using Ubuntu 9.04 and I have versions 2.6.2 and 3.0.1+ installed.

Look for IDLE in Add/Remove Applications. 


Perhaps, you may have a different version of Ubuntu.

Ken

Ray Parrish wrote:
 
Yes, I'm using 2.45.2 as that is the highest version available in the 
Ubuntu repositories, and I'd like to keep it simple for users of 
programs i write. If I install a higher version from somewhere other 
than the repositories it will force users of my programs to do the 
same, and the repositories are the trusted source of software for 
Ubuntu, and other Linux users.


Thanks for being so observant.

Later, Ray Parrish

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[Tutor] Finding duplicates entry in file

[Ken G.]

What is a method I can use to find duplicated entry within a sorted 
numeric file?  

I was trying to read a file reading two lines at once but apparently, I 
can only read one line at a time.  Can the same file be opened and read 
two times within a program?


For example, a file has:

1
2
2
3
4
4
5
6
6

The newly revised file should be:

1
2
3
4
5
6

Again, thanking the group for their input,

Ken






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Re: [Tutor] Finding duplicates entry in file

[Ken G.]

Thanks!  You gave me something to do for the rest of the afternoon.

Ken

Steven D'Aprano wrote:

On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 03:34:01 am Ken G. wrote:
  

What is a method I can use to find duplicated entry within a sorted
numeric file?

I was trying to read a file reading two lines at once but apparently,
I can only read one line at a time.



f = open("myfile")
while True:
first = f.readline()  # Read one line.
second = f.readline()  # And a second.
process(first)
process(second)
if second == '':
# If the line is empty, that means we've passed the
# end of the file and we can stop reading.
break
f.close()


  
  
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Re: [Tutor] Finding duplicates entry in file

[Ken G.]

Thanks for the info.  I already adopted a program from another person 
and it works like a charm.   As for your question, I had no idea of if I 
had duplicate or more as there was some 570 line items.  I whittled it 
down to 370 line entries.  Whew.


Ken

Luke Paireepinart wrote:



On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Ken G. <mailto:beach...@insightbb.com>> wrote:


What is a method I can use to find duplicated entry within a
sorted numeric file?  
I was trying to read a file reading two lines at once but

apparently, I can only read one line at a time.  Can the same file
be opened and read two times within a program?

For example, a file has:

1
2
2
3
4
4
5
6
6

The newly revised file should be:

1
2
3
4
5
6

Again, thanking the group for their input,


One-liner:
open("output.txt", "w").write("\n".join(sorted(set([i.strip() for i in 
open("input.txt")]



Just for fun :)

also, in your algorithm, why are you assuming there are at most 1 
extra entries in the case of a duplicate?  Why not generalize it for 
all duplicates?

-Luke


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Re: [Tutor] Finding duplicates entry in file

[Ken G.]

Thanks for letting me know.  Corrective actions taken.

Ken

Luke Paireepinart wrote:



On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Ken G. <mailto:beach...@insightbb.com>> wrote:


Thanks for the info.  I already adopted a program from another
person and it works like a charm.   As for your question, I had no
idea of if I had duplicate or more as there was some 570 line
items.  I whittled it down to 370 line entries.  Whew.


Can you please try to post to the list in plain-text rather than 
HTML?  it is very hard to read your font on my system.


Thanks,
-Luke

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[Tutor] Looking for duplicates within a list

[Ken G.]

I have been working on this problem for several days and I am not making 
any progress.  I have a group of 18 number, in ascending order, within a 
list.  They ranged from 1 to 39.  Some numbers are duplicated as much as 
three times or as few as none.


I started with one list containing the numbers.  For example, they are 
listed as like below:


a = [1, 2, 3, 3, 4]

I started off with using a loop:

   for j in range (0, 5):
   x = a[0] # for example, 1

How would I compare '1' with 2, 3, 3, 4? 

Do I need another duplicated list such as b = a and compare a[0] with 
either b[0], b[1], b[2], b[3], b[4]?


Or do I compare a[0] with a[1], a[2], a[3], a[4]?

In any event, if a number is listed more than once, I would like to know 
how many times, such as 2 or 3 times.  For example, '3' is listed twice 
within a list.


TIA,

Ken








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Re: [Tutor] Looking for duplicates within a list

[Ken G.]

vijay wrote:

Check out this code
 l= [1, 2, 3, 3, 4]
 d={}
 for item in l:
 d.setdefaut(item,0)
 d[item] +=1
print d
{1: 1, 2: 1, 3: 2, 4: 1}


with regard's
vijay



Thanks.  Very interesting concept.

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Looking for duplicates within a list

[Ken G.]

Alex Hall wrote:

On 6/11/10, Ken G.  wrote:
  

I have been working on this problem for several days and I am not making
any progress.  I have a group of 18 number, in ascending order, within a
list.  They ranged from 1 to 39.  Some numbers are duplicated as much as
three times or as few as none.


FYI, Python's "set" data type will let you have a list and never have
a repeat. I know that is not your goal now, but if you want to remove
duplicates, it seems like a good choice.
  

I started with one list containing the numbers.  For example, they are
listed as like below:

a = [1, 2, 3, 3, 4]

I started off with using a loop:

for j in range (0, 5):
x = a[0] # for example, 1

How would I compare '1' with 2, 3, 3, 4?

Do I need another duplicated list such as b = a and compare a[0] with
either b[0], b[1], b[2], b[3], b[4]?

Or do I compare a[0] with a[1], a[2], a[3], a[4]?


A couple points here. First, you will want to make life easier by
saying range(0, len(a)) so that the loop will work no matter the size
of a.
Second, for comparing a list to itself, here is a rather inefficient,
though simple, way:

for i in range(0, len(a)):
 x=a[i]
 for j in range(0, len(a)):
  y=a[j]
  if(x==y and i!=j): #match since a[i]==a[j] and i and j are not the
same index of a
  

In any event, if a number is listed more than once, I would like to know
how many times, such as 2 or 3 times.  For example, '3' is listed twice
within a list.


Do not quote me here, but I think sets may be able to tell you that as well.
  

TIA,

Ken


Thank you for your contribution.  As seen here, I have much to learn.

Ken

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Re: [Tutor] Looking for duplicates within a list [SOLVED]

[Ken G.]

Sander Sweers wrote:

On 11 June 2010 15:57, Ken G.  wrote:
  

In any event, if a number is listed more than once, I would like to know how
many times, such as 2 or 3 times.  For example, '3' is listed twice within a
list.



If you do not have top keep the order of the number this will work.

  

a = [1, 2, 3, 3, 4]
counted = {}
for n in a:


if not n in counted:
counted[n] = 1
else:
counted[n] += 1

  

counted


{1: 1, 2: 1, 3: 2, 4: 1}

  

for x, y in counted.items():


if y > 1:
print "Number %s was found %s times" % (x, y)
else:
print "Number %s was found %s time" % (x, y)

Number 1 was found 1 time
Number 2 was found 1 time
Number 3 was found 2 times
Number 4 was found 1 time

Greets
Sander
  

That works great!  Thanks!

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Looking for duplicates within a list [SOLVED]

[Ken G.]

Jose Amoreira wrote:

On Friday, June 11, 2010 02:57:34 pm Ken G. wrote:
  

I have been working on this problem for several days and I am not making
any progress.  I have a group of 18 number, in ascending order, within a
list.  They ranged from 1 to 39.  Some numbers are duplicated as much as
three times or as few as none.

I started with one list containing the numbers.  For example, they are
listed as like below:

a = [1, 2, 3, 3, 4]

I started off with using a loop:

for j in range (0, 5):
x = a[0] # for example, 1

How would I compare '1' with 2, 3, 3, 4?

Do I need another duplicated list such as b = a and compare a[0] with
either b[0], b[1], b[2], b[3], b[4]?

Or do I compare a[0] with a[1], a[2], a[3], a[4]?

In any event, if a number is listed more than once, I would like to know
how many times, such as 2 or 3 times.  For example, '3' is listed twice
within a list.

TIA,




I would do it with a dictionary:
def reps(lst):
dict = {}
for item in lst:
if item in dict:
dict[item] += 1
else:
dict[item] = 1
return dict

This function returns a dictionary with of the number of times each value in 
the list is repeated. Even shorter using dict.setdefault:


def reps(lst):
dict={}
for item in lst:
dict[item] = dict.setdefault(item,0) + 1
return dict

For instance, if lst=[1,2,2,2,4,4,5], then reps(lst) returns
{1: 1, 2: 3, 4: 2, 5: 1}

Using the fact that the list is ordered, one can design a more efficient 
solution (go through the list; if this item is equal to the previous, then it 
is repeated, else, it is a new value). But you list is short enough for this 
direct approach to work.

Hope this helps. Cheers,
Jose

  

Thanks.  I will be studying your approach.  Thanks all.

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Looking for duplicates within a list [SOLVED]

[Ken G.]

Alan Gauld wrote:


"Ken G."  wrote

In any event, if a number is listed more than once, I would like to 
know how many times, such as 2 or 3 times.  For example, '3' is 
listed twice within a list.


Have you looked at the count method of lists?

Something like:

counts = set(( item, mylist.count(item)) for item in mylist if 
mylist.count(item) > 1)


Seems to work...

HTH,



Whee, this is great!  I learned a lot today.  Back to playing and studying.

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Looking for duplicates within a list [SOLVED]

[Ken G.]

Dave Angel wrote:

Ken G. wrote:
I have been working on this problem for several days and I am not 
making any progress.  I have a group of 18 number, in ascending 
order, within a list.  They ranged from 1 to 39.  Some numbers are 
duplicated as much as three times or as few as none.


I started with one list containing the numbers.  For example, they 
are listed as like below:


a = [1, 2, 3, 3, 4]

I started off with using a loop:

   for j in range (0, 5):
   x = a[0] # for example, 1

How would I compare '1' with 2, 3, 3, 4?
Do I need another duplicated list such as b = a and compare a[0] with 
either b[0], b[1], b[2], b[3], b[4]?


Or do I compare a[0] with a[1], a[2], a[3], a[4]?

In any event, if a number is listed more than once, I would like to 
know how many times, such as 2 or 3 times.  For example, '3' is 
listed twice within a list.


TIA,

Ken

I'm a bit surprised nobody has mentioned the obvious solution -- 
another list of size 40, each of which represents the number of times  
a particular number has appeared.


(Untested)


a = [1, 2, 3, 3, 4]
counts = [0] * 40
for item in a:
counts[item] += 1

Now, if you want to know how many times 3 appears, simply
  print counts[3]

The only downside to this is if the range of possible values is large, 
or non-numeric.  In either of those cases, go back to the default 
dictionary.


DaveA




This will be look into.  Mucho thanks.

Ken

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Re: [Tutor] Looking for duplicates within a list [SOLVED]

[Ken G.]

Steven D'Aprano wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:58:19 am Alan Gauld wrote:

  

Have you looked at the count method of lists?

Something like:

counts = set(( item, mylist.count(item)) for item in mylist if
mylist.count(item) > 1)



That's a Shlemiel the Painter algorithm.

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog000319.html


  

Seems to work...



You say that now, but one day you will use it on a list of 100,000 
items, and you'll wonder why it takes 45 minutes to finish, and curse 
Python for being slow.
  

Hee, hee.  Will investigate further.  Thanks.

Ken

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Re: [Tutor] Looking for duplicates within a list [SOLVED]

[Ken G.]

Hugo Arts wrote:

On 11 jun 2010, at 17:49, Steven D'Aprano  wrote:

  

On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:58:19 am Alan Gauld wrote:



Have you looked at the count method of lists?

Something like:

counts = set(( item, mylist.count(item)) for item in mylist if
mylist.count(item) > 1)
  

That's a Shlemiel the Painter algorithm.

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog000319.html




It is, but it's also very elegant and simple to understand. And it
works fine on small inputs. Everything is fast for small n.

  

Seems to work...
  

You say that now, but one day you will use it on a list of 100,000
items, and you'll wonder why it takes 45 minutes to finish, and curse
Python for being slow.




Actually, now that you know it is a shlemiel the painter's algorithm,
you won't have to wonder anymore. And you'll just say: "well, this
piece of code might need to handle huge lists someday, I'll use a
dictionary."

I guess what I'm trying to say is: using code that performs bad in
situations that won't be encountered anyway is not inherently bad.
Otherwise, we'd all still be writing everything in C.

The corrolary, of course, is that you should always know what the
performance characteristics of your code are, and what kind of data it
will handle.

Hugo

  

I appreciate your input.  Thanks!

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Looking for duplicates within a list [SOLVED]

[Ken G.]

davidheise...@gmail.com wrote:

How about this?
 
List = [1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5]

for Item in list(set(List)):
print Item, List.count(Item)
 
 


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*Subject:* Re: [Tutor] Looking for duplicates within a list [SOLVED]


Steven D'Aprano wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:58:19 am Alan Gauld wrote:

  

Have you looked at the count method of lists?

Something like:

counts = set(( item, mylist.count(item)) for item in mylist if
mylist.count(item) > 1)



That's a Shlemiel the Painter algorithm.

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog000319.html


  

Seems to work...



You say that now, but one day you will use it on a list of 100,000 
items, and you'll wonder why it takes 45 minutes to finish, and curse 
Python for being slow.
  

Hee, hee.  Will investigate further.  Thanks.

Ken




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Oh, a nice one.  Many thanks.

Ken
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[Tutor] Sorting the Dictionary Set?

[Ken G.]

Is there a way to sort a dictionary?

Assuming I have a dictionary set containing the following:

{'02': 1, '03': 1, '12': 1, '15': 2, '14': 2, '04': 3, '05': 1, '19': 1, 
'32': 1, '28': 1, '27': 1, '17': 2, '25': 1}


and using the following code:

print ('Printing the result of numbers that are repeated:')
print
for x, y in counted.items():
if y > 1:
print "Number %s was found %s times." % (x,y)
# else:
# print "Number %s was found %s times." % (x,y)
print

and the result are:

Printing the result of numbers that are repeated:

Number 15 was found 2 times.
Number 14 was found 2 times.
Number 04 was found 3 times.
Number 17 was found 2 times.

and the question is:

How do I sort the dictionary so the numbers listed (15, 14, 04, 17) are 
listed in sorted ascending order such as:


Number 04 was found 3 times.
Number 14 was found 2 times.
Number 15 was found 2 times.
Number 17 was found 2 times.

I would appreciate any help, suggestion or hint on how to do achieved 
the desired result.


Thanks,

Ken

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Re: [Tutor] Which version to start with?

[Ken G.]

I am just starting on Python 2.6.2 on Ubuntu 9.04 and I am slightly 
confused with the numerous tutorials and books available for learning 
the language.  Is there any good recommendation for a good but easy 
tutorial on the Internet to learn Python?


Ken

wesley chun wrote:

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Nick Hird  wrote:
  

What is the best version of python to start out with? I see some
discussions on the net about not going to 3.1 but staying with the 2.x
releases. But then i see that 3.1 is better if your just starting.




greetings nick!

ironically, i just gave a talk on this very subject yesterday afternoon(!)
http://www.siliconvalley-codecamp.com/Sessions.aspx?OnlyOne=true&id=227

basically, if you're starting from scratch as a hobby with no
pre-existing code, then learning 3.x is okay. however, since most of
the world still runs on Python 2, most printed and online books and
tutorials are still on Python 2, and the code at most companies using
Python is still on version 2, i would recommended any release 2.6 (and
newer). the reason is because 2.6 is the first release that has
3.x-specific features backported to it, so really, it's the first
Python 2 release that lets you start coding against a 3.x interpreter.

you can learn Python using 2.6+ then absorb the differences and move
to Python 3.x quite easily.

hope this helps!
-- wesley

  
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[Tutor] Using IDLE v2.6

[Ken G.]

I just reinstalled Python v2.6.2 due to a computer crash.  I reinstalled
IDLE v2.6 but I was wondering if there is something better than IDLE. 


I am using Ubuntu 9.04 so they do have some limited choices available.

Thanks for your input.

Ken
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[Tutor] Printing Sideway...

[Ken G.]

It is possible to print letters sideway in Python? 


Instead of printing from left to right on the long side of
a #10 envelope, I wish to print sideway, printing from the
left short edge of envelope to its right short edge.

Thanks,

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Printing Sideway...

[Ken G.]

Okay, thanks.  Understood.  It's not a big thing here.  Thought I would 
ask.


Ken

Alan Gauld wrote:



Ken G. wrote:

I am using Ubuntu 9.04 as my primary OS.  I have Windows XP
installed in the first partition (dual boot).  I have Python
2.6.2 installed on both OS.  The printer is a Cannon MX300.
To print on the envelope, I use Windows Works v4.5 which is
easy to use.  I just learned how to print via Open Office
Writer 3.0.1 which took several hours to do properly.

If it is not possible to print sideways, I understand.


It is possible but the solution has nothing to do with Python. That is 
the point Bob is making. How you print sideways depends on the printer 
driver, the application software you are using, and the OS.


ON Unix you can print sideways by doing things like sending print 
formatting codes through any of the print formatting programs in Unix 
- groff being a good example. Or you could create an HTML document 
containing your text and then print that via a browser.
Or you can format the output normally and then programmatically set 
the printer driver options to print in a different orientation.


All of these could be done from Python or via manual intervention.

HTH,


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[Tutor] Outputting Data to Printer

[Ken G.]

Is there a Python command to send data to printer? 

I have a Canon MX300 hooked up by USB.   I can print from Firefox and 
Thunderbird.  I am using Ubuntu 9.04 and Python 2.6.2.


I could print to a file and then use gedit to print out the content of 
the file but I was wondering if there was an easily way to do this.


Thanks,

Ken



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Re: [Tutor] Outputting Data to Printer

[Ken G.]

Alan Gauld wrote:

"Ken G."  wrote


Is there a Python command to send data to printer?
I have a Canon MX300 hooked up by USB.   I can print from Firefox and 
Thunderbird.  I am using Ubuntu 9.04 and Python 2.6.2.


There is no universal easy way to print stuff unfortunately.
In console mode on Unix its not too bad, you can send data
to lpr, just as you would from the shell.

You can also format your data using fmt or groff and send that to lpr 
as you would from the shell.



That is a surprise!  I was so use to using lprint as in Basic.  Oh 
well.  I will have to study up on fmt and/or groff.


Would those two commands (fmt, groff) send data to lpr from shell?  Is 
lpr the same hookup for USB port?


Thanks,

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Outputting Data to Printer

[Ken G.]

ALAN GAULD wrote:


> > There is no universal easy way to print stuff unfortunately.
> > In console mode on Unix its not too bad, you can send data
> > to lpr, just as you would from the shell.

> That is a surprise!  I was so use to using lprint as in Basic.  

BASIC ran on a predefined platform so could be sure where the 
printer lived and minimium set of print codes to use.


Because Unix has multile different ways to connect printrs etc 
its much harder to do.


> Oh well.  I will have to study up on fmt and/or groff.

They are formatting commands. fmt converts plain text into 
nicely aligned paragraphs etc. groff is similar to LaTeX but 
more programmer friendly (IMHO). man pages are formatted with groff.


> Would those two commands (fmt, groff) send data to lpr from shell?  

No, you usually use them as part of a pipeline, senduing the ouput 
to lpr (or maybe lp on Linux?)


> Is lpr the same hookup for USB port?

Should be, because it uses the installed printer driver.

HTH,

Alan G.

THANKS!  Can't say enough for your excellent help. 


I do recommend your Learning to Program website.

Ken


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[Tutor] Breaking out of loop...

[Ken G.]

I am trying to break out of a loop posted below.  When asked for 
monthdate, it should break out if I entered the number zero and it does 
not.  GRRR.  Been working on this for almost an hour.


   monthdate = 999

   while monthdate <> 0:
   monthdate = raw_input('Enter the month and date in two digit 
format each: ')   
   month = monthdate[0:2]

   date = monthdate[2:4]
   year = ('2009')
   print month, date, year

   print "Finished!"

Thanking you all in advance for your help.

Ken

  
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Re: [Tutor] Breaking out of loop...

[Ken G.]

Alan Gauld wrote:


"Ken G."  wrote

I am trying to break out of a loop posted below.  When asked for 
monthdate, it should break out if I entered the number zero and it 
does not.  GRRR.  Been working on this for almost an hour.


   monthdate = 999

   while monthdate <> 0:


You are comparing monthdate with a number but raw_input returns a string.

Also <> is deprecated, change it to !=

Try

while monthdate != "0":

and it should work.

Except
   monthdate = raw_input('Enter the month and date in two digit 
format each: ')   month = monthdate[0:2]

   date = monthdate[2:4]
   year = ('2009')
   print month, date, year


With this code you always process monthdate so if the user
types zero it will fail.

The idiomatic Python way to do this is:

while True:   # loop "forever"
   monthdate = raw_input('Enter the month and date in two digit 
format each: ')

   if monthdate == "0":
  break# exit the loop
   month = monthdate[0:2]
   date = monthdate[2:4]
   year = ('2009')
   print month, date, year

That change means you can get rid of the initial assignment to 999 too.

HTH,


Truly amazing!  Thanks.

Ken
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[Tutor] Sorting Data in Databases

[Ken G.]

Greeting: Can someone give me a brief outline of sorting data in 
databases?  I have five databases with numeric values for each item.  To 
be more precise, they are sorted by date and if necessary, by time.  
Currently, I am using Ubuntu 9.04 in the language of Linux and Python is 
my choice of programming language.


The way I use to do it in another programming language (Liberty Basic in 
Windows) was:


1. Count number of data entry in database.

2. Dimension or create an array to equal the maximum number of entry.

3. Copy data entry from database into array.

4. Use the SORT command on array, ascending or descending sequence.

5. Copy sorted data from array into database.

From what I know of Python so far, is it possible to sort the database 
as it or do I have to copy data into either a list, tuple or dictionary 
and sort there and then, after sorting copy sorted entry back into the 
database.


An outline of what needed to be done will be fine so I can study and 
learn the proper way of doing this in Python.  FWIW, I just finished 
Alan's tutorial on list, tuple and dictionary.  Whew!!!  Quite 
comprehensive.


Again, TIA,

Ken

Thanks, gentleman.

Ken


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Re: [Tutor] Sorting Data in Databases

[Ken G.]

I have not use the DBMS as I am unaware of them in both languages.   


Lie Ryan wrote:

Ken G. wrote:
The way I use to do it in another programming language (Liberty Basic 
in Windows) was:


1. Count number of data entry in database.
2. Dimension or create an array to equal the maximum number of entry.
3. Copy data entry from database into array.
4. Use the SORT command on array, ascending or descending sequence.
5. Copy sorted data from array into database.


In any programming language, that was the wrong algorithm, except for 
very low-volume purpose. You should ask the DBMS system to sort the 
database whenever possible instead of doing the sorting yourself.


 From what I know of Python so far, is it possible to sort the 
database as it or do I have to copy data into either a list, tuple or 
dictionary and sort there and then, after sorting copy sorted entry 
back into the database.


Question time:
1. What DBMS are you using?
2. What python interface to the DBMS you are using?
3. Why do you think you need to sort the database? There is no 
advantage (that I know of) of having a sorted database. A decent DBMS 
should determine how best to store the data (it's their problem, not 
yours). If your DBMS can't do this, you should consider using another 
DBMS.
4. Can't you simply sort the queried data? An SQL-based DBMS should 
support ORDER BY command to sort the SELECT-ed rows. That should be 
faster than sorting the whole database. You can sort the returned 
tuple yourself, but it would be very difficult to beat the DBMS's 
ORDER BY.


An outline of what needed to be done will be fine so I can study and 
learn the proper way of doing this in Python.  FWIW, I just finished 
Alan's tutorial on list, tuple and dictionary.  Whew!!!  Quite 
comprehensive.
As stated, I am unaware of any DBMS in both languages.  In Basic and 
now in Python, I wrote up a program to input data to the datafile and 
a program to output the content of the database.  Very primitive and 
basic.


All of the databases I spoke of are arranged by date and if necessary, 
time.  One contains my blood glucose reading and it is now, the newest 
entry is at the bottom of the database.  I need to arrange it in 
descending order whereas I can print out a report of the last 55 entries 
for my doctor.  Some of the entries in the other databases are not in 
sequenced order and I wish them to be, either ascending or descending 
sequence.  The data are numerical, ranging in the length of 20, 22 and 
44 long with no spaces.


Thank you for letting me look a little further into DBMS.

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Rép. : Sorting Data in Databases

[Ken G.]

Luhmann wrote:
I'd suggest you load all your data into a list of lists, then use the 
.sort() method to sort it.
The sort method takes a key= argument, which should be a function that 
does some transformation to your data, then returns something to be 
compared.


for instance:

>>> l=[[1,2,3],[2,3,4],[0,9,1]]

>>> def cp(a):
return a[2]

>>> l
[[0, 9, 1], [1, 2, 3], [2, 3, 4]]

>>> def cp(a):
return a[1]

>>> l.sort(key=cp)
>>> l
[[1, 2, 3], [2, 3, 4], [0, 9, 1]]
>>> def cp(a):
return a[0]

>>> l.sort(key=cp)
>>> l
[[0, 9, 1], [1, 2, 3], [2, 3, 4]]
>>>

Actually, I was fooling around with that today by adding to the list 
from the file and then sort.  I was using the following simplify method:


newlist = []

newlist = [
   456, 54, 8, 158, 878
   ]
(above data read from file)

newlist.sort()

print newlist
[8, 54, 158,  456, 878]

(still working adding to new file]

The actual sorted list has, as I recall, an apostrophe at the beginning 
and an \n at the end of every number I had.  I will be working on that. 


Thanks for your suggestion.

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] R?p. : Sorting Data in Databases

[Ken G.]

Albert Sweigart wrote:

Ken,

You should probably use the sorting functionality that your DBMS
provides. However, if you have a list of strings that end with a new
line and start with an apostrophe, you can use list comprehensions to
remove them:

newlist = [x[1:-1] for x in newlist]

You can look at the following links to find out more about list
comprehensions here:

http://www.secnetix.de/olli/Python/list_comprehensions.hawk
http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/pytut/ListComprehensions.html

-Al
You should check out my free beginner's Python book here:
http://inventwithpython.com

  

Thanks for the tip.  I really don't have a DBMS here.  It is just 
something I don't use.  I will look into it.


Again, thanks.  I also appreciate the links.

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Sorting Data in Databases

[Ken G.]

Che M wrote:


Ken,

I would also recommend trying out databases, if you have an interest.  
I found them a fun new aspect of using Python.  I would recommend 
using SQLite, which very conveniently comes with Python.  Alan Gauld's 
tutorial that you've read part of has a nice section on Working with 
Databases, and it uses SQLite as the example database management system. 

Understanding a bit about how to use SQL (the Structured Query 
Language that most databases use, but which is surprisingly close to 
English) is also a good thing to learn as you learn about programming 
generally.  I thought it was going to be harder than it turned out to 
be.  It's not bad.  Another good helper is http://sqlzoo.net/.  What 
you will want to "Google up on" once you are ready to try to sort your 
database is "ORDER BY" in the context of SQLite.


Good luck,
Che


That is a surprise to me.  I did not know that Python would work with 
SQLite.   I will look into Alan's tutorial on DB.  I am getting more and 
more surprised of what Python can do.  Very comprehensive.   Thanks all.


Ken
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[Tutor] Error writing to file...

[Ken G.]

In writing the following program in creating random numbers and writing 
them to the file, I get an type error in writing to file.  I have tried 
number = random(10,99), number = randint(10.99), and number = 
random.random(10,00) and still get various errors of writing to file. 

If I were to REM out the file.write(number) and file.write('\n') lines, 
the program run fine.  Do I need to convert a numeric random number to a 
string number?


TIA,

Ken

PROGRAM:

import random
print ("First Group - Write")
file = open("Numbers.txt","w")
for i in range(1,10):
   number = random.randint(10,99)
   print i, number
   file.write(number)
   file.write('\n')
file.close()

ERROR MESSAGE:

Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/home/ken/Python 262/random.py", line 8, in 
   file.write(number)
TypeError: argument 1 must be string or read-only character buffer, not int
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Re: [Tutor] Error writing to file...

[Ken G.]

Thinking it was a reply to me on Python Tutor,
I translated the following into English for the board.

Ken

� DIAGORN wrote:

Bonjour,
Je suis absente jusqu'au 03/01/10 inclus.
En cas d'urgence Soprane, contacter notre adresse générique 
projet.sopr...@teamlog.com.

Joyeuses fêtes de fin d'année. Cordialement.

Geneviève 
  

Hello,
I am leaves to THE 03/01/10 include.
In case of urgency Soprane, contact our generic address
projet.sopr...@teamlog.com.
Joyous end of year holidays. Cordially.

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Re: [Tutor] Error writing to file...(SOLVED)

[Ken G.]

Thanks!  So a file will only take a numeric as a string?  Lesson learned.

Again, thanks.

Ken

Amit Sethi wrote:
It is as the Error says a type error , the function takes a string and 
u are passing an int

if you put
file.write(str(number)) you will not get error ..



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[Tutor] Printing data to a printer...

[Ken G.]

Wow, I looked and looked.  I can print out my program listing but can 
not print the resulted data produced by the program.


How do I print out on my USB printer the data output of my Python 
program I ran in my Ubuntu terminal via Geany IDE? 

I already wrote several programs using raw_input, files, sort, list, 
tuple and I like Python!  Currently, I'm using Python 2.6.  In Liberty 
Basic, the command was lprint.  For example:


   print 2 + 2#display in terminal

   lprint 2 + 2#   print result to printer  


TIA,

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Printing data to a printer...

[Ken G.]

Rich Lovely wrote:

2010/1/2 Ken G. :
  

Wow, I looked and looked.  I can print out my program listing but can not
print the resulted data produced by the program.

How do I print out on my USB printer the data output of my Python program I
ran in my Ubuntu terminal via Geany IDE?
I already wrote several programs using raw_input, files, sort, list, tuple
and I like Python!  Currently, I'm using Python 2.6.  In Liberty Basic, the
command was lprint.  For example:

  print 2 + 2#display in terminal

  lprint 2 + 2#   print result to printer
TIA,

Ken
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There doesn't appear to be anything builtin to make it easy - on
Linux, at least.  There are three options, as far as I can see.  I
don't have a printer, so can't test either.

First is to pipe the output from the program to a command line
printing program.  This will mean that all of the data written to
stdout is sent straight to the printer.  This can only be done at the
command line, and will look something like
$ python your_program.py | lpr

Using this method, you can still send output to the console using
sys.stderr.write()

This is the traditional unix method, but is only really appropriate
for your own scripts.

The second option is to open a pipe to a program such as lpr from
within python, using the subprocess module:

import subprocess
lpr =  subprocess.Popen("/usr/bin/lpr", stdin=subprocess.PIPE)
lpr.stdin.write(data_to_print)

The third option is to use a third party library.  The current linux
printing system is called CUPS, so you can try searching the
cheeseshop (pypi.python.org) or google for python cups packages.  The
pypi gives one possibility:  http://www.pykota.com/software/pkipplib

There is a fourth option, which might not even work: opening the
printer device as a file-like object (I don't recommend trying this
without doing a lot of research first):

lp = open("/dev/lp0", "w")
lp.write(data_to_print)

Of course, all of this is very much os specific.  The first option
will work in linux, osx and windows, but two and three will only work
in linux and osx, however printing is considerably easier on windows,
there is the win32print package that does (most of) the heavy lifting
for you.  To be honest, I'm not even sure if option four will work
_at_all_.

  
I found a roundabout way of doing it.  Using IDLE, I ran the program as 
it is in the new "untitled window", resulting in having the output in 
the Python Shell window.  I use the Print command from that shell window. 

Thanks for your input.  It is much appreciated and I am printing it out 
for reference.


Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Python printing to LPT

[Ken G.]

On 02/12/2011 10:14 AM, Bill Allen wrote:


Is is possible to print directly to an LPT port printer from Python?


--Bill

I use the following format in my Ubuntu 10.04 usage.  It set up a 
printing file.



import os

# declare values
month = "02"; date = "11"; year = "2011"

# open up file
pr = os.popen("lpr", "w")

#tab two times before printing string
pr.write("\t\tDate of Drawing: "),

# print the month on the same line and added a space
pr.write(month), pr.write (" " ),

# print the date on the same line and added a space
pr.write(date), pr.write(" "),

# print the year on the same line and added a space
pr.write(year), pr.write(" "),

# print up two line feeds
pr.write("\n"), pr.write("\n")

# close the print file
pr.close()

will produce the following:

Date of Drawing:  02 11 2011

 (start of new line here)

Very time consuming and detailing but it work.

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Python printing to LPT

[Ken G.]

On 02/12/2011 09:53 PM, Bill Allen wrote:

Ken,

Thanks for the great info on doing this on a Linux platform.  I am 
sure I will be trying this with Linux sometime and I'll refer back to 
this.



--Bill




I discovered some more information on this at the following link:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/tutor/2010-January/073725.html

Good luck.

Ken



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Re: [Tutor] New to programming

[Ken G.]

You may want to check out a short article entitled "Instant Hacking" by 
Magnus Lie Hetland.  It is an introduction to programming using Python 
as an example.  In the first paragraph thereby mentioned, there is a 
link to another easy article titled "Instant Python" written by the same 
author.  He had already has written three Python books.


Ken

On 03/18/2011 07:48 PM, Savyn - OpenERP Mail wrote:

Dear Everyone

I am new to programming (a passion mainly). I have no background in 
programming.  The python.org beginner tutorial seems hard after a few chapters 
or not sure how to merge requirement with the tutorials.

Where and how should I start programming with python for complete beginner?

Many thanks
Sav


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Re: [Tutor] Replying

[Ken G.]

I am using v3.1.8 for Mozilla Thunderbird.

Ken

On 03/28/2011 06:17 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

Corey Richardson wrote:


Thunderbird has a "reply list" button that I use.


It does? What version are you using?



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Re: [Tutor] Beginning Python From Perl

[Ken G.]

Not necessary learning from Perl but I would recommend Alan Gauld's 
online website for learning Python from scratch:


http://www.alan-g.me.uk/

Good luck in learning Python.

Ken

On 11/08/2011 05:14 PM, Jihad Esmail wrote:

Hi! I am new to this list so stick with me. I've recently taken interest
in learning Python. I have already learned Perl. How should I go about
learning Python from Perl? Please help. Thanks!

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Re: [Tutor] [off-topic] Any thread for linux troubleshooting

[Ken G.]

On 12/11/11 17:54, Bikash Sahoo wrote:


Can you please refer some threads for linux troubleshooting queries ??


Not so much a thread but the Ubuntu web forum is a good starting place and thereare tons of Linux news groups. Try a search on Google groups as your 

starting point.


Also the Linux Documentation Project  www.ldp.org has loads of how-to docs.

I've been using Linux on and off since 1993 but only made the total switch to 
it this July. So far I'm loving it except for the lack of a decent Video editor 
and Visio clone. Fortunately Serif Movieplus and SmartDraw 6 work under Wine so 
I'm a happy bunny


--
Alan G
Author of the Learn to Program web site
http://www.alan-g.me.uk/


I checked the above website and I was linked to a foreign political 
blog.  The correct link is:  tldp.org/  for The Linux Documentation Project.


Ken
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[Tutor] File vs. Database (possible off topic)

[Ken G.]

It occurred to me last week while reviewing the files I made in using 
Python, it could be somewhat similar to a database.


What would be a different between a Python files and Python databases?  
Granted, the access in creating them are different, I really don't see 
any different in the format of a file and a database.


Again, this may be off topic, but where can I review the basic concepts 
of creating a database/file.  For example, when is a back up file 
created, after inputting a new value?  Is sorting a consider a separate 
program after inputting a new value?  It has been some 30 years since I 
took a course in basic data processing and I am hazy in trying to 
remember the basic concepts.


If this is off topic, I apologized for posting here.

Ken, Kentucky, USA




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Re: [Tutor] File vs. Database (possible off topic)

[Ken G.]

On 11/22/2011 08:13 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

Ken G. wrote:
It occurred to me last week while reviewing the files I made in using 
Python, it could be somewhat similar to a database.


What would be a different between a Python files and Python 
databases?  Granted, the access in creating them are different, I 
really don't see any different in the format of a file and a database.


A database is essentially a powerful managed service built on top of 
one or more files. There's nothing you can do with a database that you 
can't do with a big set of (say) Windows-style INI files and a whole 
lot of code to manage them. A database does all the management for 
you, handling all the complexity, data integrity, and security, so 
that you don't have to re-invent the wheel. Since database software 
tends to be big and complicated, there is a lot of wheel to be 
re-invented.


I wish to thank those whom replied to my previous question regarding 
database vs. file.  The responses received was quite useful and helpful.


Ken
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[Tutor] Weird Error

[Ken G.]

I have use 'sleep.time(5)' in most of my program but the following error 
is throwing me for a loss.


import time
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/ken/Python2/Blood Glucose/BloodGlucose04ReadingTimed.py", 
line 63, in 

time.sleep(2)
AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'sleep'

Using the following is okay:

import time
print "Now"
time.sleep(2)
print "Later"


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Re: [Tutor] Weird Error

[Ken G.]

On 12/17/2011 10:40 AM, Peter Otten wrote:

Ken G. wrote:


I have use 'sleep.time(5)' in most of my program but the following error
is throwing me for a loss.

import time
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/ken/Python2/Blood Glucose/BloodGlucose04ReadingTimed.py",
line 63, in
  time.sleep(2)
AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'sleep'

Using the following is okay:

import time
print "Now"
time.sleep(2)
print "Later"

Look for an assignment like

time = "whatever"

in module BloodGlucose04ReadingTimed.py.

Whew!  I search for "time" in the program and yes, I did have time as an
assignment in several places in the program prior to using time.sleep.

Changed the assigned time to timing.

Thanks guys.

Ken


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Re: [Tutor] Github Pygame Example Repository

[Ken G.]

The second link should be read as follow:

http://flossstuff.wordpress.com/2011/12/17/github-repository-for-pygame-examples/

You had an extra period after http:

Ken

On 12/17/2011 01:00 PM, ANKUR AGGARWAL wrote:

I have created an pygame example repo on github to promote the
learning of this API. check this out
https://github.com/ankur0890/Pygame-Examples-For-Learning . I created
an blog post of the same on my linux blog :
http:.//flossstuff.wordpress.com/2011/12/17/github-repository-for-pygame-examples/
. Suggestions and feedback would be great. Looking for contribution
too :)

Regards
Ankur Aggarwal


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[Tutor] Which should it be, lists, tuples, dictionary or files?

[Ken G.]

I have been using an Open Office Spreadsheet containing basically, the 
food name, basic serving amount, calories, sodium and carbohydrate.  
Daily, I entered the servicing amount being eaten and its calculate the 
amount of calories, sodium and carbohydrate.  For some odd reason, I 
kept losing the spreadsheet and its data.


I am interested in keeping track of the number of calories consumed each 
day.  Due to losing the spreadsheet data so frequencies, I decided to 
use Python in keeping track of the basic information and perhaps, keep 
track of the calories in a file.


Over the last several months, numerous mention is made of lists, tuples 
and dictionary here.  Basically, the format will be as follow:


Name of Food
Basic Serving Amount
Calories per serving
Sodium per serving
Carbohydrate per serving

For example,

Name:  Hominy, Golden (3.5)
Serving Size:  1/2 cup
Calories:  100
Sodium:  380
Carbohydrate:  20

The '(3.5)' indicated above is number of servings in a 15.5-ounce can.  
It will not necessary be indicated.


Should the above five elements be stored as a list, tuples, dictionary 
or file?  I am will familiar with files and have some knowledge of using 
lists and tuples.  Not too familiar with dictionary.


Thank for any suggestion.

Ken




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Re: [Tutor] Which should it be, lists, tuples, dictionary or files?

[Ken G.]

On 01/02/2012 05:47 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

Ken G. wrote:
I have been using an Open Office Spreadsheet containing basically, 
the food name, basic serving amount, calories, sodium and 
carbohydrate.  Daily, I entered the servicing amount being eaten and 
its calculate the amount of calories, sodium and carbohydrate.  For 
some odd reason, I kept losing the spreadsheet and its data.


I am interested in keeping track of the number of calories consumed 
each day.  Due to losing the spreadsheet data so frequencies, I 
decided to use Python in keeping track of the basic information and 
perhaps, keep track of the calories in a file.


If you lose the spreadsheets, what makes you think you won't lose the 
Python files?


I am using Open Office and for unknown reason, it does not always open.  
I am on Ubuntu 10.04.3 OS.  I use my Python files every day.


[...]
Should the above five elements be stored as a list, tuples, 
dictionary or file?  I am will familiar with files and have some 
knowledge of using lists and tuples.  Not too familiar with dictionary.


If you to store the data permanently, it has to go into a file. I 
suggest you learn about INI files to start with. Start by googling for 
"INI file format" and see if it sounds like what you could use.

Okay, thanks.  I will look into it.  Have not heard of INI file format.

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Which should it be, lists, tuples, dictionary or files? [SOLVED]

[Ken G.]

On 01/03/2012 06:28 AM, Alan Gauld wrote:

On 03/01/12 07:31, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:


It's probably worth mentioning that shelve is not secure; loading a
saved shelf can involve executing arbitrary python code embedded
inside it. This probably isn't important for this particular project,
but maybe in the future, if you consider using shelf for something
more security-conscious...


A good point, shelve should be treated more like an internal 
persistence tool than a general purpose database. It's

fine if you know what you are storing but if random data
is being put into it there could be problems.

My thanks to all of those who replied and offered suggestions.  I will 
be looking into every one of those suggestions.  Again, my thanks.  This 
is truly a great Python group.


Ken, Louisville, KY, USA
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[Tutor] Using a Blackjack Chart...

[Ken G.]

I would like to create a Python program in the manner of an using flash 
card format.
That is, a question is asked and you can respond according and you will 
be notify if

you are correct or incorrect.

Using such format stated above, I would like to create a Blackjack 
program.  I wish

to utilize a 'cheat sheet chart' format that provide the proper response.

The chart has 10 rows across, being identified as the dealer's up card, 
from 2 to

10 plus Ace.

There are 23 columns indicating the player's cards being shown, such as 
8 to 12,

13-16, 17+, A2 to A8 and 2,2 to A,A.

Each row and column would indicate either Hit, DD (Double), S (Stand) 
and SP

(Split).

How can I best utilize such a chart in the Python program?  Lists, 
Tuples, Dictionary
or perhaps, a database format such as SQL?  I tried using MySQLdb but 
was unable
to use it since I am using Ubuntu 10.04.4 (Linux) as my main OS.  My 
other OS is

Windows XP.

Thank you for any suggestions or guidances.

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Using a Blackjack Chart...

[Ken G.]

On 05/23/2012 09:56 AM, Prasad, Ramit wrote:

How can I best utilize such a chart in the Python program?  Lists,

Tuples, Dictionary or perhaps, a database format such as SQL?  I tried using 
MySQLdb but
was unable to use it since I am using Ubuntu 10.04.4 (Linux) as my main OS.  My
other OS is Windows XP.



As to mysql it works fine on linux.  If your system doesn't have mysql
you can use synaptic package manager  to get it  Look for
mysql-server, mysql-client and python-mysqldb

import MySQLdb as mdb

Or even more simply, why not use SQLite? It is built into Python
and will be portable for anywhere that Python is.

Ramit




Thank you.  I am looking into SQLite3.  It has a steep learning curve for me.  
I'm
still playing with it.

Again, thanks.

Ken



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Re: [Tutor] sqlite3 question

[Ken G.]

On 05/23/2012 12:51 PM, Joel Goldstick wrote:

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Khalid Al-Ghamdi  wrote:

hi all,

I'm using Python 3 and have read that you need sqlite to be installed to use
the sqlite3 module, but when it is imported it seems to work ok. so, do you
need to install it? also, when you create the database where is it saved?


thanks

Here's one of the top listings from google for sqlite3 python

http://greeennotebook.com/2010/06/how-to-use-sqlite3-from-python-introductory-tutorial/

See that the database is kept in the file /home/user/mydatabase.db


import sqlite3
mydatabase="/home/user/.mydatabase.db"
connection=sqlite3.connect(mydatabase)
cursor=connection.cursor()
cursor.execute('CREATE TABLE mytable (Id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY, Date TEXT, Entry 
TEXT)')



connection.commit()
cursor.close()
quit()
The file may be hidden due to the dot before the file name and may be 
located in the home directory

of user.

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Using a Blackjack Chart...

[Ken G.]

On 05/23/2012 09:36 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

Ken G. wrote:
I would like to create a Python program in the manner of an using 
flash card format.
That is, a question is asked and you can respond according and you 
will be notify if you are correct or incorrect.


Is this supposed to be a graphical flashcard program?

Or something you run at the terminal, using just text? That's much 
simpler.



Using such format stated above, I would like to create a Blackjack 
program.  I wish
to utilize a 'cheat sheet chart' format that provide the proper 
response.


The chart has 10 rows across, being identified as the dealer's up 
card, from 2 to 10 plus Ace.


There are 23 columns indicating the player's cards being shown, such 
as 8 to 12, 13-16, 17+, A2 to A8 and 2,2 to A,A.


Each row and column would indicate either Hit, DD (Double), S (Stand) 
and SP (Split).


There's no need for the 200lb sledgehammer of a database to crack this 
peanut.


Your data structure looks like a table, with a mere 10*23 = 230 cells. 
Just use a dictionary, with keys (dealer-up-card, player-cards) and 
values the response:


table = {
(2, 8): 'H',  # dealer's card is 2, player's cards add to 8
(2, 9): 'H',
...
(2, 21): 'S',
(3, 8): 'H',
...
}


A text-only flash-card test would look something like this:

import random

def flash():
# Pick a random cell from the table.
cell = random.choice(table.keys())
print "The dealer shows", cell[0]
print "Your hand is", cell[1]
response = raw_input("What do you do? ")
if response == table[cell]:
print "Correct"
else:
print "The dealer laughs cruelly as he takes your money."



def main():
print "Blackjack flash-card program"
print "Type Control-C at any time to halt."
try:
while True:
flash()
except KeyboardInterrupt:
pass


main()



Thank you Steven for saving me from database hell.  LOL.  Yes, it would 
be a text
based program.  I will start working on this approach today.  Again, my 
thanks.


Ken







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Re: [Tutor] Using a Blackjack Chart...

[Ken G.]

On 05/24/2012 10:27 AM, Prasad, Ramit wrote:

There's no need for the 200lb sledgehammer of a database to crack this
peanut.

Thank you Steven for saving me from database hell.  LOL.  Yes, it would
be a text based program.  I will start working on this approach today.  Again, 
my
thanks.

This would be good practice as an intro to databases. They are a powerful
tool and it would probably beneficial to learn it in the long run.

Ramit


Thanks.  I have a bunch of tutorials printed out to study and learn.

Ken
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[Tutor] OT: Searching Tutor Archives

[Ken G.]

While searching in Google several months ago, I came across a response 
addressed to me regarding on how to read, correct and write to the same 
file at the same time without using a secondary file as a temporary file 
to hold the corrected entries and rewriting to the original file.


The entry was dated back approximately four years ago. I thought I 
printed it out as that was a new concept to me then. Could someone 
explain how to found such an article or kindly refresh my memory on how 
to correct an original file without using a secondary file. Thanks.


Ken
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Re: [Tutor] OT: Searching Tutor Archives

[Ken G.]

On 08/19/2015 06:09 PM, Ben Finney wrote:

"Ken G."  writes:


Could someone explain how to found such an article

At the end of every message to this forum you'll see this footer:


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That address, https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor>,
gives information about the forum, including where to find its archives.

You can browse the archives using a web search, for example
“site:mail.python.org/pipermail/tutor/ beachkidken” in DuckDuckGo
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Amail.python.org%2Fpipermail%2Ftutor%2F+beachkidken>.

Wow, thanks. Just took a look and there are some thirty articles. Again, 
thanks.


Ken
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Re: [Tutor] OT: Searching Tutor Archives

[Ken G.]

On 08/19/2015 07:34 PM, Alan Gauld wrote:

On 19/08/15 18:43, Ken G. wrote:


explain how to found such an article or kindly refresh my memory on how
to correct an original file without using a secondary file. Thanks.


Others have explained the search.
Let me just point out that the number of cases where you
want to do such a thing is vanishingly small.

It's incredibly unreliable and error prone and if you mess
it up you will probably screw up the source data such that
you can't recover it or re-run it. It's almost never the
best way to go about things - much better to fake it safely.



Thanks, Alan. Your point is well taken.

Ken
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[Tutor] Unable to get out of loop

[Ken G.]

I have been unable to get out of the following
loop. No matter what I entered, I can not get
get out of the loop. The only way I can stop
the routine is CTRL-C.

If an entry is either 1, 2 or 3, then I should
be able to proceed. I am sure the correct solution
is very simple but I don't see it.

Thanks.

print
side = ""
while side != "0" or side != "1" or side != "2":
print "\t1 = right arm\t2 = left arm\t0 = exit program"
print
side = raw_input("\t")
print
print
print "\tYou entered", side
print
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Re: [Tutor] Unable to get out of loop [RESOLVING]

[Ken G.]

On 02/26/2016 09:26 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 08:30:19PM -0500, Ken G. wrote:


side = ""
while side != "0" or side != "1" or side != "2":

That will only exit if side == "0", "1" and "2" **at the same time**.
Clearly that is impossible, so the condition is always true, and the
while loop will never end.

Trying to reason about "reversed conditions" like that is hard, much
much harder than reasoning about ordinary conditions. You should
re-write it in terms of equality, then reverse the condition once:

while side not in ("0", "1", "2):
 ...


Thanks Danny and Steven for your response. I will rewrite the code and 
try again. I had no idea I opened up a can of worms and now, I am 
putting them back. Thanks!


Ken


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Re: [Tutor] Recommendations for best tool to write/run Python

[Ken G.]

On 03/02/2016 01:26 PM, Lisa Hasler Waters wrote:

Hello everyone,

I am new to Python, as are my middle school students. We are using Python
3.5.1 IDLE to write and run our (simple) code. However, this tool does not
seem to be the best way to write longer code or to be able to re-edit code
that has been saved/closed/reopened.

Eventually, we hope to build some projects that we can "use" and share with
others.

Could you please recommend the best Python tools for writing and running
our code for the long term? Also, we are hoping to find free tools!

Thanks so very much!

Lisa

PS We have tried to use Aptana Studio 3 but it is not easy to work in.


I have been using Geany as my Python work station in my Ubuntu 14.04.4 
desktop operating system.


Ken




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[Tutor] Best way to install Python 3 onto Windows 10

[Ken G.]

Having acquired a new laptop yesterday with
Windows 10 installed and up-to-date, what
would be the best way to install the latest
version of Python 3? The laptop is an Dell
Latitude E5500 and I am still learning the
bells and whistles of it. I last used Windows
XP 3-4 years back so this usage is all new
to me.

Currently, I am using Python 2.7.6 on a
desktop Linux system, Ubuntu 14.04.4 and
using Geany as a go to using Python.

TIA,

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Best way to install Python 3 onto Windows 10 [RESOLVED]

[Ken G.]

On 03/15/2016 05:45 PM, Alan Gauld wrote:

On 15/03/16 21:31, Ken G. wrote:

Having acquired a new laptop yesterday with
Windows 10 installed and up-to-date, what
would be the best way to install the latest
version of Python 3?

Personally I always install ActiveState Python on
Windows so that I can set up the Pythonwin IDE and
use the ActiveState Windows help viewer for the
Python docs.

The installer should do everything you need for
you. (You may have to locate the pyhonwin exe and
set up a shortcut - I seem to recall that was not
done by the installer for Win 10...

Caveat: ActiveState are sometimes a few months
behind with their python versions so might not
have the very latest build out yet.


Thank you Alan. I just could not remember the name
of that helpful installer for the Windows system.

Ken
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[Tutor] Sorting a list in ascending order

[Ken G.]

In entering five random number, how can I best sort
it into ascending order, such as 0511414453? Using
Linux 2.7.6 in Ubuntu 14.04.4. Thanks.

number01 = "41"
number02 = "11"
number03 = "05"
number04 = "53"
number05 = "44"
line = number01 + number02 + number03 + number04 + number05
print
print line
line.sort()
print
print line


4111055344

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "Mega_Millions_01_Tickets_Entry_TEST_TEST.py", line 11, in 
print line.sort()

AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'sort'


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Re: [Tutor] Sorting a list in ascending order [RESOLVED]

[Ken G.]

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Ken G. <mailto:beachkid...@gmail.com>> wrote:


In entering five random number, how can I best sort
it into ascending order, such as 0511414453? Using
Linux 2.7.6 in Ubuntu 14.04.4. Thanks.

number01 = "41"
number02 = "11"
number03 = "05"
number04 = "53"
number05 = "44"
line = number01 + number02 + number03 + number04 + number05
print
print line
line.sort()
print
print line


4111055344

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "Mega_Millions_01_Tickets_Entry_TEST_TEST.py", line 11, in

print line.sort()

AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'sort'



On 04/29/2016 04:58 PM, meenu ravi wrote:

Hi Ken,

As the message clearly says, the string object doesn't have an 
attribute "sort". You are trying to join the inputs as a single 
string,"line" and then you are trying to sort it. But, as you want the 
string in the sorted format, you should sort it first and then convert 
it into string, as follows.


number01 = "41"
number02 = "11"
number03 = "05"
number04 = "53"
number05 = "44"
list1 = [number01,number02,number03,number04,number05] # Creating a 
list with the inputs


list1.sort() # sorting the input
print ''.join(list1) #making it again as a single string

Hope this helps. Happy coding.

Thanks,
Meena


Thanks, Meena, that is great! I changed your last line to:

print "".join(list1)  and it came out as below:

0511414453

Another quotation mark was needed.

Again, thanks.

Ken




I appreciate all of everybody help.

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Sorting a list in ascending order [RESOLVED]

[Ken G.]

On 04/29/2016 05:10 PM, Martin A. Brown wrote:

Greetings Ken and welcome to Python,


Using Linux 2.7.6 in Ubuntu 14.04.4. Thanks.

Thank you for this information.  I have one tip for you:  While
Python 2.x will still be around for a while, if you are learning
Python today, I'd suggest Python 3.x. You can read more about the
differences online (or ask here), if you care.  The only syntax
difference that usually trips up beginners is the following:

   print line # Python 2.x
   print(line)# Python 3.x

Though there are other differences, this is one of the most obvious
to all Python programmers.  With that said, I'll just answer your
question using Python 2.x, since everything else in your example
will work perfectly the same in either version.

I intend to suggest what you should read, and then what you should
try to run in order to address your question(s).

I will paste my entire interactive Python sessions below.  Did you
know that you can use the Python interpreter as a shell to test out
how things behave?  Very handy.  Try typing 'python' at the CLI and
you should see this:

   $ python
   Python 2.7.8 (default, Sep 30 2014, 15:34:38) [GCC] on linux2
   Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
   >>>

So, when you see ">>>" below, that's in the Python shell (2.7.8 in
my case, 2.7.6 in yours).


In entering five random number, how can I best sort it into
ascending order, such as 0511414453?

OK, so you have five random numbers, but you seem to want to print
them without any visual space between them.  A bit strange, but OK!

Fragment #1:


number01 = "41"
number02 = "11"
number03 = "05"
number04 = "53"
number05 = "44"

Observation:  You define a variable called 'number01', which
actually contains a string value.  You can call the variable
anything you want, but that will not change the type of the object
to which your variable name is bound.  For example:

   >>> number01 = "41"
   >>> type(number01)
   

Suggestion #1, try this instead:

   >>> number01 = 41
   >>> type(number01)
   

Ah-ha!  Now, we are dealing with integers (numbers).

Fragment #2:


line = number01 + number02 + number03 + number04 + number05

Observation:  Since all of the variables (named number01, number02,
number03, etc) contain strings, you are using string
concatenation to create a new string.  After the above command
executes, you have this:

   >>> line
   '4111055344'
   >>> type(line)
   

Comment:  You don't really want a string, do you?  Keep reading for
a moment, and I'll come back to this.

Also, I don't think you really want to add the integers.  That would
be 41 + 11 + 05 + 53 + 44 = 154.  But, you want to keep the numbers
and sort them.  We will need to keep them in a list.  And, Python
has a data structure for you...called, obviously enough list().

Fragment #3:


print
print line
line.sort()

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "Mega_Millions_01_Tickets_Entry_TEST_TEST.py", line 11, in 
print line.sort()

AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'sort'

Observation:  This message is called an Exception, in Python.
There are many different kinds of exceptions--this one is called
AttributeError, but the message of the exception is the important
part for us here.  It doesn't make sense to sort a string.  You can
sort two strings, of course.  But not a single string.

Anyway, the important thing about the Exception is it tries to give
you a good deal of information about which line of code did
something that was problematic, and what code called that code (this
is why it's called a "Traceback").

Now, I'll rewind to the beginning and try to go through the problem
again, changing a few pieces of your program to get you closer to
your solution.

First, let's use the right datatype, an int, for each number.
Second, let's use a list() to store the numbers (instead of five
   separate named variables; easy to mistype names).
Third, let's sort it.
Then, let's print it.

   >>> nums = [41, 11, 5, 53, 44]  # -- create/populate a list
   >>> nums
   [41, 11, 5, 53, 44] # -- still looks good
   >>> nums.sort() # -- sort, in place!
   >>> nums
   [5, 11, 41, 44, 53] # -- Ta-da!

I'm going to do the same thing a slightly different way, now, so you
can see how to add stuff to a list:

   >>> nums = list()
   >>> nums.append(41)
   >>> nums.append(11)
   >>> nums.append(5)
   >>> nums.append(53)
   >>> nums.append(44)
   >>> nums
   [41, 11, 5, 53, 44]

In each case the variable 'nums' still contains the same data.  We
just got there in a different series of steps.  You may decide which
makes more sense to you in any given situation.

So, suggestion, play with lists, and see how they work.

Now, we have to figure out how to print the contents of the list.
Here's one way, but it is not the output you appear to want.

   >>> print nums
   [5, 11, 41, 44, 53]

I'm guessing you want '05 11 41 44 53'.

There are many ways to convert fro

Re: [Tutor] Sorting a list in ascending order [RESOLVED]

[Ken G.]

On 04/29/2016 07:40 PM, Alan Gauld via Tutor wrote:

On 29/04/16 23:58, Ken G. wrote:


print ''.join(list1) #making it again as a single string


Thanks, Meena, that is great! I changed your last line to:

  print "".join(list1)  and it came out as below:

  0511414453

Another quotation mark was needed.

No it wasn't. Meena used two single quotes, you used
two double quotes. Both will work. But the two single
quotes can look like a single double quote depending
on your font choices. So double quotes in this case
are probably less ambiguous.


Gosh, been using double quotes since the late eighties and thus, a hard 
habit

to break when encourage to use single quote mark in Python. Thanks for the
reminder of "it" being a possible double single quote when encountering a
double quote at various times.

Ken

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[Tutor] Quote and double quotes opens up File Explorer in Windows 10

[Ken G.]

Hi: In gradually moving over my Python programs (2.7.6) to Windows 10 
and using Geany 1.27 to modify or write up a program there, it is noted 
that whenever I typed in a quote (') or double quote ("), Windows 10 
File Explorer opens up. I end up closing it by typing ALT-F4 to resume 
typing as before. Is there a way to prevent the File Explorer from 
opening up whenever I use a quote or double quote? Is there another 
key(s) that does weird thing in Windows 10? Thanks.


Ken

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Re: [Tutor] Quote and double quotes opens up File Explorer in Windows 10 (RESOLVED)

[Ken G.]

On 07/09/2016 01:02 PM, eryk sun wrote:

On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Ken G.  wrote:

Hi: In gradually moving over my Python programs (2.7.6) to Windows 10 and
using Geany 1.27 to modify or write up a program there, it is noted that
whenever I typed in a quote (') or double quote ("), Windows 10 File
Explorer opens up. I end up closing it by typing ALT-F4 to resume typing as
before. Is there a way to prevent the File Explorer from opening up whenever
I use a quote or double quote? Is there another key(s) that does weird thing
in Windows 10? Thanks.

The single/double quote key isn't a standard hotkey in any version of
Windows. That would be insane. If this is just happening in Geany,
check its keybindings preferences. Otherwise, check that you're using
the right keyboard layout and that you don't have any programs (or
malware) that's registering a global hotkey.

For example, here's a simple script that registers the single quote
(US keyboard layout) as a global hotkey to open the desktop in
Explorer:

 #! /usr/bin/python3
 import os
 import ctypes
 from ctypes import wintypes

 user32 = ctypes.WinDLL('user32')

 WM_HOTKEY = 0x0312
 MOD_NOREPEAT = 0x4000
 VK_OEM_7 = 0xDE # US layout, single/double quote

 hotkey_id = 1
 if user32.RegisterHotKey(None, hotkey_id, MOD_NOREPEAT, VK_OEM_7):
 print('Hotkey "\'" registered.')
 msg = wintypes.MSG()
 count = 0
 while (count < 3 and
user32.GetMessageW(ctypes.byref(msg), None, 0, 0)):
 if msg.message == WM_HOTKEY and msg.wParam == hotkey_id:
 count += 1
 print('Hotkey received.')
 os.startfile('shell:Desktop')

Thank you for the responses. As it just turned out, it was the keyboard 
sending out a faulty signal for the quote and double quote to the 
computer. I switched keyboard and there was no opening of the File 
Explorer when sending quote and double quote using Geany. Again, thanks.


Ken
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[Tutor] Program won't print out in Windows 10

[Ken G.]

While the following program prints out fine using

Python 2.7.6 in Ubuntu 14.04.4 as developed using

Geany 1.23.1, same program won't print out to printer

under Windows 10 Pro (64 bit). Geany uses there is

version 1.28 using Python 2.7.12. I can use CTRL-P

to print out the listing.

=

# hello2.py

import os

print
print "Hello World!"
print
pr = os.popen("lpr", "w")
for i in range(1,8):
pr.write("\n")
pr.write("\n")
pr.write("\t\t01  02  03  04  05")
pr.write("\n")
pr.close
print
print("\tPlease wait several moments for printer to catch up.")
print

===

Thanking you readers in advance in resolving this non

Windows printing issue.

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[Tutor] Where is win32print in Windows 10 Pro

[Ken G.]

Currently in my Windows 10 Pro, 64-bit operating system, x64-bit based 
processor,


using Python-2.7.12.amd64, I have for the first few lines:

```

import os, sys

import win32print

`

and get the following error message:

`

import win32print

ImportError: No module named win32print



I have searched high and low within my Windows computer and have been 
unable to find 'win32print'. Any idea of where it is located or where I 
can obtain same. Thanks.


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Re: [Tutor] Where is win32print in Windows 10 Pro [RESOLVED]

[Ken G.]

On 08/11/2016 11:34 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 10:28:44AM -0400, Ken G. wrote:


import win32print

ImportError: No module named win32print



I have searched high and low within my Windows computer and have been
unable to find 'win32print'. Any idea of where it is located or where I
can obtain same. Thanks.

Have you searched the Internet?

https://duckduckgo.com/html/?q=win32print+python

I'm not really familiar with this specific library, but I think it may
be part of PyWin32:

https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pywin32


which means if you have pip installed, this *may* work:

# run this from your operating system shell (command.com, cmd.exe, Powershell?)
pip install pywin32


I'm not an expert on Windows, but I hope this helps.
Thanks for the help so far seen here. I already installed pywin32 and no 
error is encounter in running pywin32 in the python program. 
Unfortunately, no printing is done yet. Still working on it. Your 
reference to duckduckgo.com provided a list of useful pywin32 attibutes 
but no examples was provided. Will keep looking. Thanks.


Ken

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Re: [Tutor] Where is win32print in Windows 10 Pro [RESOLVED]

[Ken G.]

On 08/11/2016 01:19 PM, Alan Gauld via Tutor wrote:

On 11/08/16 17:14, Ken G. wrote:
Unfortunately, no printing is done yet. Still working on it. Your 
reference to duckduckgo.com provided a list of useful pywin32 
attibutes but no examples was provided. Will keep looking. Thanks.
PyWin32 is a very thin layer on top of the Win32/COM API. You probably 
need to be familiar with printing in Win32 to use PyWin to print, and 
that's not trivial. If you are already familiar with printing from 
C/C++ it will be straightforward but otherwise you may be better 
looking at other options.
Finally got it printing. Gosh, it is a whole new ball game in a new 
whole ball park stadium. Loading up on soda pops and popcorns. Yep, you 
got it right, absolutely NOT trivial. GRRR.


Thanks to all for providing guidance of where to go and look.
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Re: [Tutor] Where is win32print in Windows 10 Pro

[Ken G.]

On 08/12/2016 11:56 PM, eryk sun wrote:

On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Joaquin Alzola
 wrote:

import win32print
ImportError: No module named win32print

That module doesn't exist on your python path

'pywin32' is its canonical name.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/

I'm not certain what's meant in the above, but to be clear, PyWin32
installs most of its modules as top-level imports. So `import
win32print` is correct.

PyWin32 can be pip installed using the "pypiwin32" package:

https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pypiwin32

The difference compared to the executable installer is that the wheel
package doesn't automatically run the post-install script that copies
some DLLs to the System32 directory. Running the post-install script
isn't necessary if you just need to call Windows and COM APIs.


Thanks for clarifying this more.

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Python Idle Crashing

[Ken G.]

On 05/17/2013 02:19 PM, Alan Gauld wrote:

On 17/05/13 18:16, bob gailer wrote:

On 5/16/2013 8:49 PM, Alan Gauld wrote:

don't run programs on real data using IDLE. IDLE is for developing
programs not running them.


That is really scary. Why do you say that? The IDLE documentation does
NOT say that!


No, but IDLE is *intended* for development. It is not intended for 
running programs. You *can* do it but the results may not be what

you expect.

Lots of beginners seem to think that because they use IDLE to develop 
code that they must run it from there but its not an effective way of 
doing things. That's all I was meaning, not that terrible things might 
happen like the PC crashing or data being deleted. It's just easier 
and faster and more predictable to run finished code directly in the 
python interpreter.




I use Geany 0.21 as a fast and lightweight IDE for my Python programs.
MY OS is Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and currently using Python 2.7.3. I rarely use
IDLE v2.7.3.

Ken

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Re: [Tutor] Flip the coin 10x and count heads and tails: It works now!

[Ken G.]

On 05/25/2013 05:25 AM, Rafael Knuth wrote:

Gents,

thank you all for your help. One of you guys asked me to try out your
suggestions and then tell you how it goes. Here we go! First, let me
recap briefly what the expected outcome of my program was and which
difficulties I encountered at the beginning. I was writing a program
in Python 3.3.0 which flips a coin 10 x times and then counts the
number of heads and tails. It obviously did something else than I
intended:

import random

print ("""

This program flips a coin 10 times.
It then counts the number of heads and tails.

""")

flips = 0
heads = 0
tails = 0

while flips < 10:
 flips = flips + 1
 if random.randint(1,2) == 1:
 heads = heads + 1
 print("We've got " + str(heads) + " heads here."
 if random.randint(1,2) == 2:
 tails = tails + 1
 print("We've got " + str(tails) + " tails here.")

This is what I got as output:

This program flips a coin 10 times.
It then counts the number of heads and tails.

We've got 1 tails here.
We've got 1 heads here.
We've got 2 tails here.
We've got 2 heads here.
We've got 3 tails here.
We've got 3 heads here.
We've got 4 tails here.
We've got 5 tails here.
We've got 4 heads here.
We've got 6 tails here.
We've got 7 tails here.
We've got 5 heads here.

As it turned out, each of your answers was *partially* correct, so I
played around with your suggestions until I got my code up and
running. Frankly, I did two mistakes: First, I placed the print
statement inside the loop instead of outside of it. And second, I
mistakenly called the random function two times inside the loop. In
order to resolve that issue, I had to modify the heads and tails
variables and then add another variable and put it inside the loop:

result = random.randint(1,2)

Lastly, I figured out that counting the results can be done in a more
elegant fashion. Instead of:

variable_XYZ = variable_XYZ + 1

… it can be done this way:

variable_XYZ += 1

I got so excited when I saw my program run properly that I decided to
pimp it a little bit by printing each head and tail with a time delay
while the coin got flipped during the run. Here’s what my code looks
like now:

import random
import time

print ("""

This program flips a coin 10 times.
It then counts the number of heads and tails.

""")
time.sleep(1)

flips = 0
heads = 0
tails = 0

while flips < 10:
 result = random.randint(1,2)
 if result == 1:
 heads += 1
 print("head")
 time.sleep(1)
 elif result == 2:
 tails += 1
 print("tail")
 time.sleep(1)
 flips += 1
print ("\nYou've got " + str(heads) + " heads and " + str(tails) + " tails.")

I have one last question to you: I explained twice in my initial mail
what I expect my program to do (“I am writing a program in Python
3.3.0 which flips a coin 10 x times and then counts the number of
heads and tails.”). I did that the introduction as well as inside my
code. However, almost each of you asked me what I expect my program to
do. I was confused about that and I am wondering if any of you can
clarify? I just want to make sure I avoid misunderstandings like these
in the future.

Thank you all again!

All the best,



Rafael

May I suggest that instead of:

flips = 0
heads = 0
tails = 0

how about:

flips = heads = tails = 0

Ken

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Re: [Tutor] Saving files in Python, IDE's & editors

[Ken G.]

For what it may be worth, I use Geany on my Ubuntu
OS, 12.04 LTS. I also have IDLE installed and I
can use the Terminal Window in running Command
Line.

Ken

On 12/17/2013 09:28 PM, Keith Winston wrote:
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:26 PM, > wrote:


What else do I need to do to make this version of Python an
actually usable programming environment?

Chris Acreman


Chris, I'm also a noob, but I would recommend you install/use an IDE, 
such as IDLE which comes free with all (I think) Python installs. An 
Integrated Development Environment will help with formatting & 
debugging, but the way I like to use IDLE is open up a window on the 
right side of my screen with the file I'm working on, and whenever I 
want to run it I save (ctrl-S, or menu) and run (F5, or menu), and 
then watch it go in the other window. Very efficient. There are quite 
a few other IDE's, free and not, but I don't really see the value for 
a beginner (but then, I'm just a beginner!). You didn't mention what 
operating system (or even what version of Python) you are using, this 
will likely influence the choices others offer.


It is completely possible to do everything without an IDE, though 
AFAIK most people end up using IDEs or editors that can be set up to 
recognize (and color-code, etc) programming: VIM and EMACs are big 
favorites. I can't imagine the learning curve of the latter is worth 
it at first, if I correctly surmise your relatively noobiness based on 
the question... IDLE is simple, you already have it installed probably 
(a little more work if you are on linux), and it's got a GUI interface 
with drop-down menus and all that good stuff. Hopefully I didn't just 
start a flame war...


--
Keith



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Re: [Tutor] most useful ide

[Ken G.]

On 02/02/2014 03:10 PM, Pierre Dagenais wrote:


On 14-02-02 01:16 PM, Kodiak Firesmith wrote:

Pycharm is nice for bigger projects (since tou can collapse any section);
but it's crazy resource intensive.  For Linux Gedit can be made very nice

I prefer Geany as it will run my code with a click of the mouse.


for python, and of course vim in the shell is very nice with the right
~/.vimrc.
On Feb 2, 2014 11:20 AM, "scurvy scott"  wrote:


Hi

Are there any recommendations for python ide's


I, too, use Geany to run my Python programs.

Ken
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[Tutor] Finding numeric day in a year...

[Ken G.]

I know the correct answer should be 001, but I keep getting 179 which is 
the correct answer for June 28, 2014 (I think). I tried using datecode 
in various places instead of today but I am still getting 179. Currently 
using Ubuntu 12.04.4 and Python 2.7. Thanks for any feedback and suggestion.



PROGRAM DISPLAY:

# datefind 03.py

import datetime

datecode = "20140101" # from database on file

month = datecode[4:6]
day  = datecode[6:8]
year  = datecode[0:4]
datecode = year + "-" + month + "-" + day
today = datecode
print today
print

print "Day of year: ", datetime.date.today().strftime("%j")


TERMINAL DISPLAY:

2014-01-01

Day of year:  179

--
(program exited with code: 0)
Press return to continue

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Re: [Tutor] Finding numeric day in a year...

[Ken G.]

On 06/28/2014 02:13 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:

On 28/06/2014 18:59, Ken G. wrote:

I know the correct answer should be 001, but I keep getting 179 which is
the correct answer for June 28, 2014 (I think). I tried using datecode
in various places instead of today but I am still getting 179. Currently
using Ubuntu 12.04.4 and Python 2.7. Thanks for any feedback and 
suggestion.



PROGRAM DISPLAY:

# datefind 03.py

import datetime

datecode = "20140101" # from database on file

month = datecode[4:6]
day  = datecode[6:8]
year  = datecode[0:4]
datecode = year + "-" + month + "-" + day
today = datecode
print today
print

print "Day of year: ", datetime.date.today().strftime("%j")


datetime.date.today() ? :)


Thanks but it came out:

Day of year:  2014-06-28

What I wanted was 001 for 01-01-2014 as specified in datecode.

Ken

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Re: [Tutor] Finding numeric day in a year...

[Ken G.]

On 06/28/2014 02:20 PM, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote:


From: Ken G. 
To: tutor@python.org
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 7:59 PM
Subject: [Tutor] Finding numeric day in a year...



I know the correct answer should be 001, but I keep getting 179 which is the 
correct answer for June 28, 2014 (I think). I tried using datecode in various 
places instead of today but I am still getting 179. Currently using Ubuntu 
12.04.4 and Python 2.7. Thanks for any feedback and suggestion.


PROGRAM DISPLAY:

# datefind 03.py

import datetime

datecode = "20140101" # from database on file

month = datecode[4:6]
day  = datecode[6:8]
year  = datecode[0:4]
datecode = year + "-" + month + "-" + day
today = datecode
print today
print

print "Day of year: ", datetime.date.today().strftime("%j")


TERMINAL DISPLAY:

2014-01-01

Day of year:  179

--
(program exited with code: 0)
Press return to continue

Hello,

Your variable 'today' and the datetime function 'today()' are not the same 
thing. You need strptime to parse the date string (and tell it the format is 
mmdd), then strftime to format it using the day-of-year format '%j'


datetime.datetime.strptime(datecode, "%Y%m%d").strftime("%j")

'001'


Thanks! That did the trick. Thank you.

Ken

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Re: [Tutor] Finding numeric day in a year...

[Ken G.]

On 06/28/2014 02:36 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 01:59:04PM -0400, Ken G. wrote:

I know the correct answer should be 001, but I keep getting 179 which is
the correct answer for June 28, 2014 (I think).

Day 179 of 2014 is June 28 according to my diary, which happens to be
today. (Well, I'm in Australia, so for me it is yesterday, but for you
it is today.) So when you do this:

print "Day of year: ", datetime.date.today().strftime("%j")

it prints the day of the year for *today*. If you try it again tomorrow,
it will print 180. If you wait another week, it will print 187.

The existence of a variable "today" is irrelevant and has nothing to do
with datetime.date.today. Consider this example:

py> import datetime
py> today = "the first day of the rest of your life"
py> datetime.date.today  # just inspect the method

py> datetime.date.today()  # actually call the method
datetime.date(2014, 6, 29)
py> today
'the first day of the rest of your life'




I tried using datecode
in various places instead of today but I am still getting 179.

datecode holds a string, not a date object. To call date methods, you
need a date object.

py> the_day = datetime.date(2014, 1, 1)
py> the_day.strftime("%j")
'001'


If you have a date as a string, you can turn it into a date object like
this:

py> the_day = datetime.datetime.strptime('20140101', '%Y%m%d')
py> the_day.strftime("%j")
'001'



Thank you. Much appreciated.

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Finding numeric day in a year...[SOLVED]

[Ken G.]

On 06/28/2014 02:39 PM, Alan Gauld wrote:

On 28/06/14 18:59, Ken G. wrote:


datecode = "20140101" # from database on file

month = datecode[4:6]
day  = datecode[6:8]
year  = datecode[0:4]


use strptime() to parse dates, its much more reliable.


datecode = year + "-" + month + "-" + day
today = datecode


And use strftime() to format them...


print today
print

print "Day of year: ", datetime.date.today().strftime("%j")


This returns todays date whenever you run it.
It has nothing to do with the dates above.
But if you use strptime() to get the date from your string you should 
then be able to use strftime to convert it to julian.


BTW You say you get it from "database on file".
Now if that is a real database such as SQLite you will find functions 
there to convert it to julian at source... which is easier than 
reading it as a string, parsing it, and then converting it back to a 
date again...



HTH


Ah, it is a Python database consisting of year-month-date and past drawn 
lotto numbers. I have just noticed that I am missing some twice weekly 
drawing. I am checking which one I am missing so far this year. Thanks 
to all that helps me

solved the puzzle.

Ken

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Re: [Tutor] Finding numeric day in a year...[SOLVED]

[Ken G.]

On 06/28/2014 04:35 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:

On 28/06/2014 19:39, Alan Gauld wrote:

On 28/06/14 18:59, Ken G. wrote:

BTW You say you get it from "database on file".
Now if that is a real database such as SQLite you will find functions
there to convert it to julian at source... which is easier than reading
it as a string, parsing it, and then converting it back to a date 
again...




Well spotted :)  Ken G. please see 
https://docs.python.org/3/library/sqlite3.html#default-adapters-and-converters

Thank you. Will take a look at it.

Ken

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[Tutor] Error in printing out totalSystolic on paper (1018)

[Ken G.]

Receiving the following error from the terminal screen:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "Blood Pressure05Print45.py", line 95, in 
pr.write(totalSystolic)
TypeError: expected a character buffer object

Portion of strip:
=

pr.write (" "), pr.write (pulse), pr.write ("\n")
totalSystolic = totalSystolic + int(systolic)
totalDiastolic = totalDiastolic + int(diastolic)
totalPulse = totalPulse + int(pulse)
file1.close()
print
print totalSystolic, totalDiastolic, totalPulse

# sys.exit()

pr.write(totalSystolic)
# pr.write(totalDiastolic)
# pr.write(totalPulse)

==

I know that totalSystolic is 1018, totalDiastolic is 469 and
totalPulse is 465.

I can not figure out why pr.write won't print out 1018 on paper.

Using Python 2.7 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 and using Geany to process the strip.

Thanks for your suggestion.

Ken

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Re: [Tutor] Error in printing out totalSystolic on paper (1018)

[Ken G.]

On 08/10/2014 10:38 AM, Alex Kleider wrote:

On 2014-08-10 06:41, Ken G. wrote:

Receiving the following error from the terminal screen:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "Blood Pressure05Print45.py", line 95, in 
pr.write(totalSystolic)
TypeError: expected a character buffer object

Portion of strip:
=

pr.write (" "), pr.write (pulse), pr.write ("\n")
totalSystolic = totalSystolic + int(systolic)
totalDiastolic = totalDiastolic + int(diastolic)
totalPulse = totalPulse + int(pulse)
file1.close()
print
print totalSystolic, totalDiastolic, totalPulse

# sys.exit()

pr.write(totalSystolic)
# pr.write(totalDiastolic)
# pr.write(totalPulse)

==

I know that totalSystolic is 1018, totalDiastolic is 469 and
totalPulse is 465.

I can not figure out why pr.write won't print out 1018 on paper.

Using Python 2.7 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 and using Geany to process the strip.

Thanks for your suggestion.

Ken



I'm guessing that you've defined pr.write() to take a string 
object but have fed it an integer- hence type error: try 
pr.write(str(totalSystolic))

instead of just pr.write(totalSystolic)

By the way, those are incredibly high numbers! What units are you using?


Thank you, I will try pr.write(str(totalSystolic)). As for the high
numbers, they are a total of 8 readings, therefore,

Systolic:  1018/8 = 127.25
Diastolic:  469/8 = 58.625
Pulse:  465/8 = 58.125

Again, thanks.

Ken
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Re: [Tutor] Error in printing out totalSystolic on paper (1018) [SOLVED]

[Ken G.]

Thanks you to the list for helping me solve my problem. I never
had problem using and printing on paper "pr.write" in my coding
until this latest one popped up. Yeah, this old dog is still
learning new tricks here. LOL.

Again, thanks.

Ken


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Re: [Tutor] eval use (directly by interpreter vs with in a script)

[Ken G.]

On 11/02/2014 04:49 PM, Danny Yoo wrote:

Hi Alex,

Just as a side note, someone has probably already told you something
like this, but:  I would strongly recommend not to use Python's eval()
or exec().  Those language features are dangerous.  Every eval() or
exec() is a possible vector for injection attacks.  This week's
injection attack of the week appears to be Drupal:
https://www.drupal.org/PSA-2014-003, and it's certainly not going to
be the last, but why should we encourage this?

In the face of this, we have to admit to ourselves that these features
are hard to use.  Beginners should certainly give those features a
very wide berth.  I don't think it's crazy to say that community
wisdom is to strongly discourage dynamic code evaluation features
unless we have no other choice.

Are you just exploring the features of Python, or is there a
particular task you're trying to solve with eval or exec()?  Perhaps
you can accomplish the same goal in another way?
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I use exec to jump to another program within the
same directory, such as:

execfile("BloodPressure02Sorting.py")

and let the program terminate there. Should I do
it differently or are you talking about a different
horse?

Ken


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Re: [Tutor] eval use (directly by interpreter vs with in a script)

[Ken G.]

On 11/03/2014 12:37 AM, Danny Yoo wrote:

I use exec to jump to another program within the
same directory, such as:

execfile("BloodPressure02Sorting.py")

and let the program terminate there. Should I do
it differently or are you talking about a different
horse?


This is related.

Rather than use execfile, you may want to consider looking into "modules".

 https://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/modules.html

By using the module system, you can call the functions of other files.
We might think of one of the functions in a file as the main program,
in which case you should be able to arrange a module approach that
effectively does what you're doing with execfile.

Using the module system is often nicer because the functions of
another module are still just regular functions: it's easy to pass
along Python values as arguments to tell the next process some
contextual information.  We can contrast this with an execfile
approach, where there's not such a nice way of passing on that context
to the other program.

The module approach also can "fail faster", in the case that when we
want to use a module, we "import" it at the head of our main program.
So if we got the file name wrong, we get fairly immediate feedback
about our mistake.  In contrast, the execfile approach defers from
touching the secondary program until we're at the point of the
execfile call itself.  So if we got the filename wrong, we don't see
the error as quickly.



Wow! Such an interesting response. Much appreciated. Printing
this out as a reference. Again, thanks.

Ken


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