[Tutor] Trouble Downloading To MacOS Mojave 10.14.3 released mid 2014

2019-03-13 Thread Robert Landers
Hello Tutor,

I am having trouble finding a python 3.7.2 download for my MacOS Mojave
10.14.3 released mid 2014.
I would like to use Xcode to learn python.

Is my OS too old?

Please provide guidance.

Thanks.
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Re: [Tutor] Trouble Downloading To MacOS Mojave 10.14.3 released mid 2014

2019-03-13 Thread Paul McCombs
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019, 5:05 AM Robert Landers  wrote:

> Hello Tutor,
>
> I am having trouble finding a python 3.7.2 download for my MacOS Mojave
> 10.14.3 released mid 2014.
> I would like to use Xcode to learn python.
>
> Is my OS too old?
>
> Please provide guidance.
>
> Thanks.
> ___
>

MacOS Mojave 10.14.3 was released in December 2018.

Python 3.7.2 is available for MacOS versions as early as 10.6, which came
out in 2009.

Can you clarify what you mean?

Paul McCombs

https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-372/

macOS users

   - For Python 3.7 releases, we provide two binary installer options for
   download. The default variant is 64-bit-only and works on macOS 10.9
   (Mavericks) and later systems. We also continue to provide a 64-bit/32-bit
   variant that works on all versions of macOS from 10.6 (Snow Leopard) on.
   Both variants now come with batteries-
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Re: [Tutor] Trouble Downloading To MacOS Mojave 10.14.3 released mid 2014

2019-03-13 Thread Zachary Ware
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:06 AM Robert Landers  wrote:
> Hello Tutor,

Hi Robert, and welcome!

> I am having trouble finding a python 3.7.2 download for my MacOS Mojave
> 10.14.3 released mid 2014.

If you go to https://www.python.org/downloads/, the large yellow
"Download Python ..." button near the top of the page should give you
the installer for the latest version of Python.

> I would like to use Xcode to learn python.

Xcode doesn't really have any support for Python.  You may be able to
use it to edit Python code, but you'll probably be happier with any
number of other editors that do properly support Python, like VS Code,
PyCharm, Sublime, or Atom (full disclosure: of those I've only used VS
Code and PyCharm, and usually use vim instead).

> Is my OS too old?

No, in fact I'm pretty sure you have the latest version (for
reference, macOS Mojave 10.14.3 was released a month ago on 7Feb2019)
:).  The Python installer may say 10.9, but that is the minimum
required version; anything later than that is supported (including
10.14).

Hope this helps,
-- 
Zach
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Re: [Tutor] Trouble Downloading To MacOS Mojave 10.14.3 released mid 2014

2019-03-13 Thread Shall, Sydney via Tutor
On 13/03/2019 14:11, Paul McCombs wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019, 5:05 AM Robert Landers  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Tutor,
>>
>> I am having trouble finding a python 3.7.2 download for my MacOS Mojave
>> 10.14.3 released mid 2014.
>> I would like to use Xcode to learn python.
>>
>> Is my OS too old?
>>
>> Please provide guidance.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> ___
>>
> 
> MacOS Mojave 10.14.3 was released in December 2018.
> 
> Python 3.7.2 is available for MacOS versions as early as 10.6, which came
> out in 2009.
> 
> Can you clarify what you mean?
> 
> Paul McCombs
> 
> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.python.org%2Fdownloads%2Frelease%2Fpython-372%2F&data=01%7C01%7Csydney.shall%40kcl.ac.uk%7C6d5116a86151497caefd08d6a7d23e37%7C8370cf1416f34c16b83c724071654356%7C0&sdata=XM0%2FLvaSE7wYpSfvZWuaKBYARoUGKCkBS9XWD2bZbzE%3D&reserved=0
> 
> macOS users
> 
> - For Python 3.7 releases, we provide two binary installer options for
> download. The default variant is 64-bit-only and works on macOS 10.9
> (Mavericks) and later systems. We also continue to provide a 64-bit/32-bit
> variant that works on all versions of macOS from 10.6 (Snow Leopard) on.
> Both variants now come with batteries-
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I am using MacOS Mojave 10.4.3.
I am also using Python 3.7.0 supplied by Anaconda.
It works fine.

Sydney


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Re: [Tutor] Trouble Downloading To MacOS Mojave 10.14.3 released mid 2014

2019-03-13 Thread Shall, Sydney via Tutor
On 13/03/2019 14:11, Paul McCombs wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019, 5:05 AM Robert Landers  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Tutor,
>>
>> I am having trouble finding a python 3.7.2 download for my MacOS Mojave
>> 10.14.3 released mid 2014.
>> I would like to use Xcode to learn python.
>>
>> Is my OS too old?
>>
>> Please provide guidance.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> ___
>>
> 
> MacOS Mojave 10.14.3 was released in December 2018.
> 
> Python 3.7.2 is available for MacOS versions as early as 10.6, which came
> out in 2009.
> 
> Can you clarify what you mean?
> 
> Paul McCombs
> 
> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.python.org%2Fdownloads%2Frelease%2Fpython-372%2F&data=01%7C01%7Csydney.shall%40kcl.ac.uk%7C6d5116a86151497caefd08d6a7d23e37%7C8370cf1416f34c16b83c724071654356%7C0&sdata=XM0%2FLvaSE7wYpSfvZWuaKBYARoUGKCkBS9XWD2bZbzE%3D&reserved=0
> 
> macOS users
> 
> - For Python 3.7 releases, we provide two binary installer options for
> download. The default variant is 64-bit-only and works on macOS 10.9
> (Mavericks) and later systems. We also continue to provide a 64-bit/32-bit
> variant that works on all versions of macOS from 10.6 (Snow Leopard) on.
> Both variants now come with batteries-
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> 
I meant to add that I use Spyder 3.3.2 and that works fine too.

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Re: [Tutor] Question for tutoring page

2019-03-13 Thread Alan Gauld via Tutor
On 11/03/2019 16:10, Diana Katz wrote:
> What is the best way to ..program using python - that could recognize 
> a 3D object and then rank drawings of the object as to which are more 
> accurate. 

I notice nobody has responded so I thought I'd let you
know your mail was received.

Unfortunately what you ask is extremely specialised and
quite advanced so I suspect nobody on the list feels
competent to advise you - I certainly don't!

> It was suggested to us to use raspberry pi and python 

The type of computer is unlikely to make much difference.
But how do you plan on "recognising" these shapes? Do
you have image files or are you expecting it to do some
optical scanning from a camera or similar?

> and perhaps tweak existing apps. 

That's good advise if you can find any suitable apps to tweak
that are both open source and written in Python. Personally
I don't know of anything remotely like what you suggest!

I assume you are already a competent programmer in some kind
of language (Python, PHP, Javascript, Java, VB, C++?)already?
If not, this is an extremely challenging first project!
(Even assuming you can find a starting point and don't have
to write it from scratch.)

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Re: [Tutor] Question for tutoring page

2019-03-13 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
I'll outline what you need


those types of recognition are done by machine learning, just some maths
using computation.

You normally give your program some images to train. Instead of letting the
program to figure out by itself, you give it some realistic drawings, the
best of the bunch and a picture of the real thing. It will then compare the
difference between the real picture and the drawings and get an idea of
what good drawings are. If you have some 40 pics, you use 30 to train and
some 10 to test.

Now when you use the program, when you throw at it a new drawing, it will
rank it based on what it learnt.

For the raspberry pi part i think it's convenient to move around but not
really needed.

>From my experience with these kinds of projects, google "image recognition
with python" maybe you'll see opencv etc. before that just make sure to
learn at least some basic python. Then you google concepts you don't know.
little by little, you'll understand what's going on. like take an image
recognition tutorial with image set provided and complete it. That approach
is better than taking a machine learning tutorial etc.

Should you need any help, please tell! I don't promise but i'll try to
write such a project as a tutorial.

Yours,

Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
http://www.pythonmembers.club | https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ
Mauritius
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