[Tutor] IDLE

2017-12-29 Thread Jay Kelman
I’m a beginner. I downloaded Python and when I look at IDLE it tells me to 
update TCL. I downloaded updated Active TCL and installed it but can’t figure 
how to use update to get IDLE corrected.

Any help?

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Re: [Tutor] IDLE

2017-12-29 Thread Alan Gauld via Tutor
On 29/12/17 16:43, Jay Kelman wrote:
> I downloaded Python and when I look at IDLE it tells me to update TCL. 

Are you using a Mac by any chance? I seem to recall this used to
be  a common issue with MacOS. If you google for "IDLE MacOS
Tcl" you should find several links telling you how to fix it.

If not a Mac then I'm stumped it should all work fine.

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Re: [Tutor] IDLE

2017-12-29 Thread Mats Wichmann
On 12/29/2017 11:28 AM, Alan Gauld via Tutor wrote:
> On 29/12/17 16:43, Jay Kelman wrote:
>> I downloaded Python and when I look at IDLE it tells me to update TCL. 
> 
> Are you using a Mac by any chance? I seem to recall this used to
> be  a common issue with MacOS. If you google for "IDLE MacOS
> Tcl" you should find several links telling you how to fix it.
> 
> If not a Mac then I'm stumped it should all work fine.
> 

This Mac issue is definitely still current - yes there is information to
solve it, but people are having constant problems getting it to not
complain, we get an orgoing stream of these over at the python.org
webmaster alias, which isn't even supposed to be for Python problems. It
seems what is on the web about this isn't simple enough, complete
enough, or whatever.


Just a note: it's not certain that you will ever hit the problems, and
if you do, you certainly don't have to use IDLE to be happy and
productive with Python. IDLE != Python.  There are many many other
editors/development environments that can be used.  A bunch are listed
on the Python wiki:

https://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments
https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors


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Re: [Tutor] IDLE

2017-12-29 Thread Rex via Tutor
I am a beginner and am using PyCharm as my editor.  It’s great and free.  It 
also provides some very nice courses that work within the editor.  Google 
PyCharm.edu

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> On Dec 29, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Mats Wichmann  wrote:
> 
>> On 12/29/2017 11:28 AM, Alan Gauld via Tutor wrote:
>>> On 29/12/17 16:43, Jay Kelman wrote:
>>> I downloaded Python and when I look at IDLE it tells me to update TCL. 
>> 
>> Are you using a Mac by any chance? I seem to recall this used to
>> be  a common issue with MacOS. If you google for "IDLE MacOS
>> Tcl" you should find several links telling you how to fix it.
>> 
>> If not a Mac then I'm stumped it should all work fine.
>> 
> 
> This Mac issue is definitely still current - yes there is information to
> solve it, but people are having constant problems getting it to not
> complain, we get an orgoing stream of these over at the python.org
> webmaster alias, which isn't even supposed to be for Python problems. It
> seems what is on the web about this isn't simple enough, complete
> enough, or whatever.
> 
> 
> Just a note: it's not certain that you will ever hit the problems, and
> if you do, you certainly don't have to use IDLE to be happy and
> productive with Python. IDLE != Python.  There are many many other
> editors/development environments that can be used.  A bunch are listed
> on the Python wiki:
> 
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors
> 
> 
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