Re: [Tutor] Modify inherited methods
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> And for guru-level mastery, replace to call to dict.__init__ with ...
nothing at all, because dict.__init__ doesn't do anything.
>
>
>
(Sorry, should have sent to list).
I don't understand this - it must do something:
class MyDict1(dict):
def __init__(self, *args, **kw):
pass
class MyDict2(dict):
def __init__(self, *args, **kw):
dict.__init__(self, *args, **kw)
d = MyDict1(y=2)
print d
{}
d = MyDict2(y=2)
print d
{'y': 2}
d = MyDict1({'x': 3})
print d
{}
d = MyDict2({'x': 3})
print d
{'x': 3}
Behaviour is different depending on whether you call the superclass
__init__ or not.
?
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"Marco Rompré" wrote Oups my posting was too big!!! In general it is better to popst long listings (over 100 lines say) to a web site such as pastebin. That will ensure they are readable and will not fill up peoples mailboxes unnecessarily. However, even better is to reproduce your error in a small sample program so we do not have to read all of your code! Why is none of my items button works In this, I have two files and in my second file I imported all the function of the first one I can't speak for all of them but the first one I looked at had an error, very similar to that suggested by your error message. self.afficher_item_bouton = Button( self, text = "Modifier", fg = "blue", command = self.modifier_item ) self.afficher_item_bouton.pack(side = LEFT) def afficher_item(self): items = self.liste.curselection() items = [self.app.modele.items[int(item)] for item in items] if (items != []): items = items[0] itemsFrame = ItemsFrame(self, item) In this code the method assigns a value to items, then reassigns items to a modified list. If the list is not empty it reassigns items to the first element. It then creates a new variable. passing a variable item which does bot exist in the method so shouldbe defined globally. But your error message suggests it is not. I suspect the items[0] assignment should be to item? Or maybe to self.item? Here is my codes and my error code for the two files please help me: Traceback (most recent call last): File "F:\School\University\Session 4\Programmation SIO\magasingolfvues.py", line 426, in app = App(racine, "magasinmodele.txt") File "F:\School\University\Session 4\Programmation SIO\magasingolfvues.py", line 23, in __init__ ItemsFrame(contexte, item) NameError: global name 'item' is not defined >>> -- Alan Gauld Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Modify inherited methods
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:53:06 +0100
Walter Wefft wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > And for guru-level mastery, replace to call to dict.__init__ with ...
> nothing at all, because dict.__init__ doesn't do anything.
> >
> >
> >
>
> (Sorry, should have sent to list).
>
> I don't understand this - it must do something:
>
> class MyDict1(dict):
>
> def __init__(self, *args, **kw):
> pass
>
> class MyDict2(dict):
>
> def __init__(self, *args, **kw):
> dict.__init__(self, *args, **kw)
>
>
> d = MyDict1(y=2)
> print d
> {}
>
> d = MyDict2(y=2)
> print d
> {'y': 2}
>
> d = MyDict1({'x': 3})
> print d
> {}
>
> d = MyDict2({'x': 3})
> print d
> {'x': 3}
>
> Behaviour is different depending on whether you call the superclass
> __init__ or not.
>
> ?
Hem... this is a rather obscure point (I personly have it wrong each time I
need to subtype builtin types). Maybe you find some enlightenment in the
following code:
===
class MyDict0(dict):
pass
class MyDict1(dict):
def __init__(self, *args, **kw):
pass
class MyDict2(dict):
def __init__(self, *args, **kw):
dict.__init__(self, *args, **kw)
===
d0 = MyDict0(a=1) ; d1 = MyDict1(a=1) ; d2 = MyDict2(a=1)
print d0,d1,d2 # ==> {'a': 1} {} {'a': 1}
In case you do not define any custom __init__ *at all*, dict will transparently
feed an instance of your type with provided entries, if any. If you define one,
and don't feed the collection yourself, you need to call dict's __init__ to do
it for you.
This behaviour allows having custom params at init:
===
class MyDict(dict):
def __init__(self, name="", **entries):
self.name = name
dict.__init__(self, **entries)
def __str__(self):
return "%s:%s" %(self.name,dict.__str__(self))
d = MyDict(name="XYZ", a=1,b=2,c=3)
print d # ==> XYZ:{'a': 1, 'c': 3, 'b': 2}
===
But all this does not apply to "atomic" builtin types such as int:
===
class MyInt0(int):
pass
class MyInt1(int):
def __init__(self, *args):
pass
class MyInt2(int):
def __init__(self, *args):
int.__init__(self, *args)
i0 = MyInt0(1) ; i1 = MyInt1(1) ; i2 = MyInt2(1)
print i0,i1,i2 # ==> 1 1 1
===
This runs by me with a message from the compiler: "DeprecationWarning:
object.__init__() takes no parameters" (about the call to int.__init__).
I would like to understand the implementation and the reason for this
difference.
This means one cannot customize the initialisation of a subtype of int like is
done above for a subtype of dict:
===
class MyInt(int):
def __init__(self, value=0, name=""):
self.name = name
int.__init__(self, value)
def __str__(self):
return "%s:%s" %(self.name,int.__str__(self))
#~ i = MyInt(name="XYZ", value=3)
i = MyInt(3, "XYZ")
print i # ==> TypeError: an integer is required
===
(Keyword parameters will also be rejected.) This is due to the implicit
execution of the builtin constructor, which requires definite parameters (here
a value and possibly a base).
More info on this topic welcome :-)
Denis
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Re: [Tutor] Modify inherited methods
spir ☣ wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:53:06 +0100
Walter Wefft wrote:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> And for guru-level mastery, replace to call to dict.__init__ with ...
nothing at all, because dict.__init__ doesn't do anything.
>
>
>
(Sorry, should have sent to list).
I don't understand this - it must do something:
class MyDict1(dict):
def __init__(self, *args, **kw):
pass
class MyDict2(dict):
def __init__(self, *args, **kw):
dict.__init__(self, *args, **kw)
d = MyDict1(y=2)
print d
{}
d = MyDict2(y=2)
print d
{'y': 2}
d = MyDict1({'x': 3})
print d
{}
d = MyDict2({'x': 3})
print d
{'x': 3}
Behaviour is different depending on whether you call the superclass
__init__ or not.
?
Hem... this is a rather obscure point (I personly have it wrong each time I
need to subtype builtin types). Maybe you find some enlightenment in the
following code:
===
class MyDict0(dict):
pass
class MyDict1(dict):
def __init__(self, *args, **kw):
pass
class MyDict2(dict):
def __init__(self, *args, **kw):
dict.__init__(self, *args, **kw)
===
d0 = MyDict0(a=1) ; d1 = MyDict1(a=1) ; d2 = MyDict2(a=1)
print d0,d1,d2 # ==> {'a': 1} {} {'a': 1}
You reiterate my point. To say that dict.__init__ can be omitted in a
subclass's __init__ with no effect, is not a correct statement.
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Re: [Tutor] Modify inherited methods
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 04:53:06 pm Walter Wefft wrote: > Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > And for guru-level mastery, replace to call to dict.__init__ with > > ... > > nothing at all, because dict.__init__ doesn't do anything. [...] > Behaviour is different depending on whether you call the superclass > __init__ or not. > > ? Fascinating... it seems that you are correct. Just goes to show, you can be programming in Python for well over a decade and still learn something new. Believe it or not, I did test the behaviour before posting, but obviously my tests were faulty! -- Steven D'Aprano ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Using Regex to produce text
While some patterns are infinite, other's aren't (e.g. The example I gave).
Using a subset of Regex syntax to produce a set of strings has the advantage of
using a well understood and documented form, and if you could hook into the
existing API, at minimal coding effort.
In addition, it allows a nice symmetry between search and production of
resource names.
E.g.
Source some data (containing resources)
Label res 1 to res n using re.pattern(p1)
Add this data to the larger data lump
do some stuff...
Find the data items you had again:
DataGroup1 = AllData.search(re.pattern(p1))
I suspect it's not that easy, as I don't think we can get to the internals of
the regex FSM. However, I thought it would be worth asking.
Matt
Etc.
--Original Message--
From: Luke Paireepinart
To: m...@doctors.net.uk
Cc: Python tutor
Subject: Re: [Tutor] Using Regex to produce text
Sent: 28 Apr 2010 07:51
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:27 AM, wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Quick question:
>
> Is there an way of using the regex patterns to produce text, instead of
> matching it?
>
> E.g.:
> pat = re.compile("ab?d")
> pat.getListofPossibleText()
>
There's no end to the length of many patterns so this would be fairly pointless.
For example, what would getListofPossibleText do for the pattern ".*" ?
I think the better question is: what are you trying to do?
Or perhaps: Why do you think you need to solve your problem this way?
-Luke
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Re: [Tutor] Modify inherited methods
On 4/28/2010 3:20 AM Walter Wefft said...
spir ☣ wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:53:06 +0100
Walter Wefft wrote:
===
class MyDict0(dict):
pass
class MyDict1(dict):
def __init__(self, *args, **kw):
pass
class MyDict2(dict):
def __init__(self, *args, **kw):
dict.__init__(self, *args, **kw)
===
d0 = MyDict0(a=1) ; d1 = MyDict1(a=1) ; d2 = MyDict2(a=1)
print d0,d1,d2 # ==> {'a': 1} {} {'a': 1}
You reiterate my point. To say that dict.__init__ can be omitted in a
subclass's __init__ with no effect, is not a correct statement.
It wasn't the omitted case that exhibits the difference. When
sub-classing, any methods omitted defer to the parent's version so the
init from the dict parent happened.
Emile
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Re: [Tutor] Modify inherited methods
Emile van Sebille wrote:
On 4/28/2010 3:20 AM Walter Wefft said...
spir ☣ wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:53:06 +0100
Walter Wefft wrote:
===
class MyDict0(dict):
pass
class MyDict1(dict):
def __init__(self, *args, **kw):
pass
class MyDict2(dict):
def __init__(self, *args, **kw):
dict.__init__(self, *args, **kw)
===
d0 = MyDict0(a=1) ; d1 = MyDict1(a=1) ; d2 = MyDict2(a=1)
print d0,d1,d2 # ==> {'a': 1} {} {'a': 1}
You reiterate my point. To say that dict.__init__ can be omitted in a
subclass's __init__ with no effect, is not a correct statement.
It wasn't the omitted case that exhibits the difference. When
sub-classing, any methods omitted defer to the parent's version so the
init from the dict parent happened.
"omitted in a subclass's __init__", ie. a *call* to the superclass's method
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Re: [Tutor] Modify inherited methods
On 4/28/2010 9:32 AM Walter Wefft said... Emile van Sebille wrote: On 4/28/2010 3:20 AM Walter Wefft said... You reiterate my point. To say that dict.__init__ can be omitted in a subclass's __init__ with no effect, is not a correct statement. It wasn't the omitted case that exhibits the difference. When sub-classing, any methods omitted defer to the parent's version so the init from the dict parent happened. "omitted in a subclass's __init__", ie. a *call* to the superclass's method You're right. Failure to read on my part. Sorry. Emile ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Modify inherited methods
On Wednesday April 28 2010 13:04:30 Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 04:53:06 pm Walter Wefft wrote: > > Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > > And for guru-level mastery, replace to call to dict.__init__ with > > > ... > > > > nothing at all, because dict.__init__ doesn't do anything. > > [...] > > > Behaviour is different depending on whether you call the superclass > > __init__ or not. > > > > ? > > Fascinating... it seems that you are correct. Just goes to show, you can > be programming in Python for well over a decade and still learn > something new. You probably thought of tuple, where __init__ really does nothing. Tuple instances are created by __new__. Eike. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Modify inherited methods
Thank you all. One tangentially related question: what does (self, *args, **kwargs) actually mean? How does one reference variables given to a function that accepts these inputs? Colin ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
[Tutor] Python beginner having troubles understanding word lists and character lists
Hello, I'm a beginner programmer, trying to learn python. I'm currently reading The programming Historian, http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers I stumbled into lists of words and lists of characters. I have no explications in that book for those two and I didn't found some explications on the web. Could you point me to a link or something where I can read about them? I don't seem to understand why they are used. thank you so much! ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Python beginner having troubles understanding word lists and character lists
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Daniel wrote: > Hello, I'm a beginner programmer, trying to learn python. I'm currently > reading The programming > Historian,http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers > I stumbled into lists of words and lists of characters. I have no > explications in that book for those two and I didn't found some explications > on the web. Could you point me to a link or something where I can read about > them? I don't seem to understand why they are used. > thank you so much! > Daniel, I'm not too clear on what you're talking about. What part is confusing you exactly? Could you provide a code example? Thanks, -Luke ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Using Regex to produce text
On 04/29/10 01:32, m...@doctors.net.uk wrote: > While some patterns are infinite, other's aren't (e.g. The example I gave). How should the regex engine know about that? > Using a subset of Regex syntax to produce a set of strings has the > advantage of using a well understood and documented form, and if you > could hook into the existing API, at minimal coding effort. > In addition, it allows a nice symmetry between search and production of > resource names. String generation is generally simpler than string parsing. If the pattern of the string you're generating is so complex that you need a regex-powered name generator, it will probably be impossible to parse that. Use string interpolation/formatting instead: '%s_%0s.txt' % (name, num) > I suspect it's not that easy, as I don't think we can get to the internals of > the regex FSM. However, I thought it would be worth asking. The problem is how you would define the "universe" set of characters. If you had a '.', would you want alphanumeric only, all printable characters, all ASCII (0-127) characters, all byte (0-255) character, all Unicode characters? It's too ambiguous and if you say to follow what regex is doing, then regex just happen to not be choosing the most convenient default for pattern generators. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Modify inherited methods
On Wednesday April 28 2010 20:57:27 C M Caine wrote:
> Thank you all. One tangentially related question: what does (self,
> *args, **kwargs) actually mean? How does one reference variables given
> to a function that accepts these inputs?
*args is a tuple containing the positional arguments;
**kwargs is a dictionary which contains the keyword arguments.
The stars before the variable names are the special syntax to handle arbitrary
function arguments; you can use any variable names you want. You can use the
syntax in a function call and in a function definition.
Here's an example session with Ipython:
In [5]: def foo(*args, **kwargs):
...: print "args: ", args
...: print "kwargs: ", kwargs
...:
...:
In [6]: foo(1, 2, 3)
args: (1, 2, 3)
kwargs: {}
In [7]: foo(1, 2, 3, a=4, b=5)
args: (1, 2, 3)
kwargs: {'a': 4, 'b': 5}
In [8]: foo( *(10, 11), **{"p":20, "q":21})
args: (10, 11)
kwargs: {'q': 21, 'p': 20}
Eike.
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Re: [Tutor] Using Regex to produce text
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:27 AM, wrote: > Is there an way of using the regex patterns to produce text, instead of > matching it? There have been some previous discussions about generating all of the possible matches for a given regular expressions. I believe these are the first messages in a couple of recent threads on python-list: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-February/1235120.html http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-March/1240605.html There's at least one sample implementation using the pyparsing library here: http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/file/view/invRegex.py This message appears to have another implementation, sent to the list as attachments: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-April/1240687.html I haven't tried any of them myself, but they may be useful to you if you really need to go down this road. -- Jerry ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Using Regex to produce text
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:36:18 am Lie Ryan wrote:
> On 04/29/10 01:32, m...@doctors.net.uk wrote:
> > While some patterns are infinite, other's aren't (e.g. The example
> > I gave).
>
> How should the regex engine know about that?
The regex engine itself doesn't run in reverse, so it can't know this
and doesn't need to. However, it is possible to write a reverse regex
engine which does run in reverse, in which case it is up to the
programmer who creates it to encode that knowledge in the engine.
> > Using a subset of Regex syntax to produce a set of strings has the
> > advantage of using a well understood and documented form, and if
> > you could hook into the existing API, at minimal coding effort.
> >
> > In addition, it allows a nice symmetry between search and
> > production of resource names.
>
> String generation is generally simpler than string parsing. If the
> pattern of the string you're generating is so complex that you need a
> regex-powered name generator, it will probably be impossible to parse
> that.
What? That makes no sense. That's like saying "I have here a formula for
generating a series of numbers which is so complicated that it is
impossible to write a formula for it". Since the string was generated
from a regex, it will be parsable by *exactly* the same regex.
> Use string interpolation/formatting instead: '%s_%0s.txt' %
> (name, num)
All this does is delay the work. You still have to generate all possible
names and nums. Since you haven't defined what they are meant to be,
it's impossible to do so.
> > I suspect it's not that easy, as I don't think we can get to the
> > internals of the regex FSM. However, I thought it would be worth
> > asking.
>
> The problem is how you would define the "universe" set of characters.
The same way the regex engine does.
> If you had a '.', would you want alphanumeric only, all printable
> characters, all ASCII (0-127) characters, all byte (0-255) character,
> all Unicode characters?
The regex engine defines . as meaning "any character except newline, or
any character including newline if the dotall flag is given". The regex
engine operates on byte strings unless you give it the unicode flag.
Given that the original poster wants to stick to regex syntax rather
than learn a different syntax with different definitions, then the
universal set of characters is well defined.
Here is a generator which should do the job:
# Untested.
def gen_dot(dotall_flag=False, unicode_flag=False):
"""Iterate over the sequence of strings which matches ."""
if not unicode_flag:
all_chars = [chr(i) for i in range(256)]
if not dotall_flag:
all_chars.remove('\n')
for c in all_chars:
yield c
else:
# There are a *lot* of unicode characters, but I don't know
# how many. Take the coward's way out.
raise NotImplementedError('left as an exercise for the reader')
> It's too ambiguous and if you say to follow
> what regex is doing, then regex just happen to not be choosing the
> most convenient default for pattern generators.
Whether regex rules are the most convenient, or whether learning yet
another complicated, terse language is better, is not the question.
--
Steven D'Aprano
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[Tutor] date problems
I want to create a program to tell me when I am supposed to do things. I have a text file with dates like 4-4-2010' as well as other data. I want to read in this date into my code and then compare it with 'date.today()' example 'if /variable/ >= today:' I don't see how to read in a string and get it into a format for comparison. I can do all of the other code. Eric ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] date problems
"Eric Meigs" wrote I don't see how to read in a string and get it into a format for comparison. Have you loked at the time and datetime modules? They should do all you need. -- Alan Gauld Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Python beginner having troubles understanding word listsand character lists
"Daniel" wrote I stumbled into lists of words and lists of characters. I have no explications in that book for those two and I didn't found some explications on the web. aListOfWords = ['one','word','or','many'] aListOfCharacters = ['a','s','d','f'] aStringOfCharacters = 'asdf' aWord = aStringOfCharacters Now what part do you not understand? Could you point me to a link or something where I can read about them? I don't seem to understand why they are used. You use a list of words any time you want to process multiple words. For example a spelling checker may break a document into a list of words and compare each word to a reference list of correctly spelled words. A list of characters is rarely used in Python since you can use a string in almost every case. You will find some more information in the "Raw Materials" topic of my tutorial. HTH, -- Alan Gauld Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Python beginner having troubles understanding word lists and character lists
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 05:06:22 am Daniel wrote: > Hello, I'm a beginner programmer, trying to learn python. I'm > currently reading The programming Historian, > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers > I stumbled into lists of words and lists of characters. I have no > explications in that book for those two and I didn't found some > explications on the web. Could you point me to a link or something > where I can read about them? I don't seem to understand why they are > used. > thank you so much! Hi Daniel, Is English your first language? I ask because "list of words" is ordinary English, and the meaning in Python is hardly different. In English, a list of words is a collection of words. There is no official way of writing a list in English. Here are three examples: red blue yellow green milk money mud monkeys moose king, queen, emperor, peasant, duke, serf In Python, a word is just a string with no spaces inside it: "word" "not a word" and a list can be created with square brackets and commas: ["red", "blue", "yellow", "green"] Characters are single letters, digits or punctuation marks: a e i o u 2 4 6 8 . ? $ % In Python, characters are just strings, and you can put them in a list: ["a", "e", "i", "o", "u", "2", "4", "6", "8", ".", "?", "$", "%"] Hope this helps you. -- Steven D'Aprano ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] date problems
On 2010-04-28, Eric Meigs wrote:
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> I want to create a program to tell me when I am supposed to do things.
> I have a text file with dates like 4-4-2010' as well as other data. I
> want to read in this date into my code and then compare it with
> 'date.today()'
> example 'if /variable/ >= today:'
> I don't see how to read in a string and get it into a format for comparison.
So you have two questions here, one "how to read in a string" and two "get it
into a format for comparison"?
It seems to me you could do something like this:
from datetime import datetime
input = open('dates.txt','rb')
list = input.read()
dates = list.split()[0] # chars before the first whitespace
items = list.split()[-1] # everything after the first whitespace
if datetime.now().strftime('%m-%d-%Y') == dates:
print 'Do %s today!' % items
(from http://github.com/aclark4life/Python-Tutor/blob/master/eric-meigs.py)
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