[Tutor] Very Newbie

2005-03-22 Thread Terry Johnson
Hey to the tutors. I am a newbie of course about the only background is
some old qbasic and very little c and perl. I have been wanting to write
 my own Web Server Program and when I saw a few times mentioned around
python about it I am starting to check into it. If the is anyone who has
done such a thing or can oint me in the best direction for learning
about it please respond. Thanks in Advance


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Re: [Tutor] Very Newbie

2005-03-22 Thread Lutz Horn
Hi,

> I have been wanting to write
>  my own Web Server Program and when I saw a few times mentioned around
> python about it I am starting to check into it.

Take a look at the BaseHTTPServer[0] and the SimpleHTTPServer[1], both come
with Python.

[0] http://docs.python.org/lib/lib.html
[1] http://docs.python.org/lib/module-SimpleHTTPServer.html

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Re: [Tutor] Looking for a Pythonic way to pass variable number of lists to zip()

2005-03-22 Thread Shidai Liu
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:51:31 -0800, Sean Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tony Cappellini wrote:
> 
> well, I would have said "apply(zip, (l1, l2, l3, ...))" but apply has
> been deprecated in 2.3.
> 
> So how about this?
> 
> arg_list = []
> # fill up arg_list
> zipped = zip(*arg_list)
> 

I met a similar question.
what if one has L = [[1,2],[3,4]], K = [100, 200]
How to 'zip' a List like [[1,2,100], [3,4,200]]?

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With best wishes!
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Re: [Tutor] OT - SQL methodology.

2005-03-22 Thread Kent Johnson
Liam Clarke wrote:
Hi, 

This is a SQL query for the advanced db gurus among you (I'm looking at Kent...)
Uh oh, you're in trouble if you think I'm an "advanced db guru" :-)
After I've run an insert statement, should I get the new primary key
(it's autoincrementing) by using PySQLite's cursor.lastrowid in a
select statement, or is there a more SQLish way to do this?
AFAIK there is no standard SQL way to do this, it is database-dependent. Python DB-API provides a 
portable interface using lastrowid; I would use that.

You don't have to do another select, lastrowid is an attribute of the cursor itself. It calls the 
SQLite function sqlite_last_insert_rowid().

In the SQL books I've got, they always seem to have an optional select
statement on the end of inserts/updates, and I was thinking maybe I
could do it that way also, but I can't figure out a logical way of
putting
'select primary_key from foo where primary_key value > every other
primary_key value'
Use cursor.lastrowid, that's what it is for.
Kent
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Re: [Tutor] Very Newbie

2005-03-22 Thread Kent Johnson
Terry Johnson wrote:
Hey to the tutors. I am a newbie of course about the only background is
some old qbasic and very little c and perl. I have been wanting to write
 my own Web Server Program and when I saw a few times mentioned around
python about it I am starting to check into it. If the is anyone who has
done such a thing or can oint me in the best direction for learning
about it please respond. Thanks in Advance
There are many options for doing this. For a very simple server you might look at the standard 
library modules mentioned by Lutz; there is also a CGIHTTPServer module. You can also write CGI 
programs in Python for use with another web server such as Apache. Basic information about writing 
CGI's in Python is here:
http://www.python.org/topics/web/basic-cgi.html

Beyond that, the options multiply. This web page lists many of them:
http://www.python.org/moin/WebProgramming
Snakelets is one that is oriented toward ease of learning.
Quixote, CherryPy and Twisted are probably the most popular.
If you give us some more information we might be able to help you narrow down the options a little. 
Is this just for fun and learning or will it be a production site eventually? Do you want to create 
dynamic content or just serve static web pages?

Ultimately though the selection is a matter of finding an alternative you are 
comfortable with.
Kent
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Re: [Tutor] Looking for a Pythonic way to pass variable number of lists to zip()

2005-03-22 Thread Kent Johnson
Shidai Liu wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:51:31 -0800, Sean Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
arg_list = []
# fill up arg_list
zipped = zip(*arg_list)
I met a similar question.
what if one has L = [[1,2],[3,4]], K = [100, 200]
What do you want to do with these lists?
How to 'zip' a List like [[1,2,100], [3,4,200]]?
 >>> zip(*[[1,2,100], [3,4,200]])
[(1, 3), (2, 4), (100, 200)]
If that's not what you mean, please give an example of the input *and results* 
you want.
Kent
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[Tutor] Visual Python from Active State

2005-03-22 Thread rkashyap
Hi,

I would like to get comments on Pros/Cons of using Visual Python. 

On another note, I have created a couple of MS Access databases for my work.  
At a recent conference, a lot of people have expressed an interest in using 
these as products for their own use.  I am looking for ways to code a mechanism 
to have license keys for evaluation (30day/60day trial, and fully licensed 
version, etc.).

I would like to use this opportunity to jump into using Python as the 
development platform if possible.  Most of the work I do is in the MS Office 
Professional.

regards,

Ramkumar

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[Tutor] Python cgi doesn't get data from html form as expected

2005-03-22 Thread Vicki Stanfield
I have recently started doing cgi in Python and have run into a problem. I
have an html form which has various widgets which accept data. I also have
this in that html file:



formdata.py runs but doesn't seem to contain the data from the form. I'm
not sure of the format for the for with regard to FieldStorage btw. Here
is the contents of formdata.py:


#! /usr/bin/python
import cgitb, os, sys
cgitb.enable()

import cgi

print "Content-Type: text/html\n\n"
print ""
form = cgi.FieldStorage()
for each in form:
print "each"
print form['fname'].value, form['lname'].value
#print "address:", form['addr'].value()
print ""
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Re: [Tutor] Python cgi doesn't get data from html form as expected

2005-03-22 Thread Michael Lasky
I haven't done too much web stuff (or much of anything) with python, but
I looked into your question a bit (researching other's problems may help
me avoid them =)).  A quick search brought up this page which seems to
have information which may help you.

http://gnosis.cx/publish/programming/feature_5min_python.html

Hope that helps. 
Best Regards,
Michael Lasky

On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 14:02 +, Vicki Stanfield wrote:
> I have recently started doing cgi in Python and have run into a problem. I
> have an html form which has various widgets which accept data. I also have
> this in that html file:
> 
> 
> 
> formdata.py runs but doesn't seem to contain the data from the form. I'm
> not sure of the format for the for with regard to FieldStorage btw. Here
> is the contents of formdata.py:
> 
> 
> #! /usr/bin/python
> import cgitb, os, sys
> cgitb.enable()
> 
> import cgi
> 
> print "Content-Type: text/html\n\n"
> print ""
> form = cgi.FieldStorage()
> for each in form:
> print "each"
> print form['fname'].value, form['lname'].value
> #print "address:", form['addr'].value()
> print ""
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Re: [Tutor] Python cgi doesn't get data from html form as expected

2005-03-22 Thread Vicki Stanfield
> I haven't done too much web stuff (or much of anything) with python, but
> I looked into your question a bit (researching other's problems may help
> me avoid them =)).  A quick search brought up this page which seems to
> have information which may help you.
>
> http://gnosis.cx/publish/programming/feature_5min_python.html
>
> Hope that helps.
> Best Regards,
> Michael Lasky

I don't see anything in that page that changes what I am doing. I can get
rid of everything that has to do with retrieving data from
cgi-FieldStorage, and the code executes fine although I get a blank page.
I have revised the code somewhat, but the initial problem of
cgi.FieldStorage being empty is still there. I don't get an error now,
just an empty page. Here is the revised code:

 #! /usr/bin/python
print "Content-Type: text/html\n\n"
print
print "\n\n"

import cgitb, os, sys
cgitb.enable()
sys.strerr = sys.stdout

import cgi

form = cgi.FieldStorage()
field_list = '\n'
for field in form.keys():
field_list = field_list + '%s\n' % field
field_list = field_list + '\n'
print field_list
print "\n\n"

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Re: [Tutor] Python cgi doesn't get data from html form as expected

2005-03-22 Thread Kent Johnson
Vicki Stanfield wrote:
I don't see anything in that page that changes what I am doing. I can get
rid of everything that has to do with retrieving data from
cgi-FieldStorage, and the code executes fine although I get a blank page.
I have revised the code somewhat, but the initial problem of
cgi.FieldStorage being empty is still there. I don't get an error now,
just an empty page. Here is the revised code:
 #! /usr/bin/python
print "Content-Type: text/html\n\n"
print
print "\n\n"
import cgitb, os, sys
cgitb.enable()
sys.strerr = sys.stdout
import cgi
form = cgi.FieldStorage()
field_list = '\n'
for field in form.keys():
field_list = field_list + '%s\n' % field
field_list = field_list + '\n'
print field_list
print "\n\n"
Please post the HTML for the form you are submitting and the HTML from a 
View Source on the result.
Kent
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Re: [Tutor] Looking for a Pythonic way to pass variable

2005-03-22 Thread C Smith
On Tuesday, Mar 22, 2005, at 05:01 America/Chicago, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I met a similar question.
what if one has L = [[1,2],[3,4]], K = [100, 200]
How to 'zip' a List like [[1,2,100], [3,4,200]]?
I would do something like:
###
for i in range(len(L)):
  L[i].append(K[i])
###
/c
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Re: [Tutor] primes - sieve of odds

2005-03-22 Thread C Smith
Hi Gregor,
I had done the same thing.  I also noted that assigning (or inserting) 
an element into a list is faster than creating a new list: 
l.insert(0,2) is faster than l = [2]+l.

###
def sieve (maximum):
 if maximum < 2: return []
 limit = int(maximum**0.5)
 nums = range(1,maximum+1,2)
 nums[0] = None
 for p in nums:
 if p:
 if p > limit: break
 nums[(p*p)//2::p] = [False]*(1+(maximum//p- p)//2)
 nums[0] = 2
 return filter(None, nums)
###
/c
Hi Sean!
Thanks for your measurements.
In the meantime I did another amendment,
leaving out the even numbers from the sieve.
It goes like this:
def sieve(maximum):
 nums = range(3, maximum+1, 2)
 for p in nums:
 if p:
 if p*p > maximum: break
 start = (p*p-2)//2
 nums[start::p] = [False]*(1+((maximum-3)//2-start)//p)
 return [2] + filter(None, nums)
Perhaps not very elegant. But approximately twice as fast as
the former version.

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Re: [Tutor] Looking for a Pythonic way to pass variable

2005-03-22 Thread Kent Johnson
C Smith wrote:
On Tuesday, Mar 22, 2005, at 05:01 America/Chicago, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I met a similar question.
what if one has L = [[1,2],[3,4]], K = [100, 200]
How to 'zip' a List like [[1,2,100], [3,4,200]]?
I would do something like:
###
for i in range(len(L)):
  L[i].append(K[i])
###
Oh, the light goes on :-) Thanks C Smith!
Here is another way:
 >>> L = [[1,2],[3,4]]
 >>> K = [100, 200]
 >>> [ x+[y] for x, y in zip(L, K) ]
[[1, 2, 100], [3, 4, 200]]
Note C Smith's approach modifies L to include the items in K; my approach makes 
a new list.
Kent
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[Tutor] OT - SQL methodolgy

2005-03-22 Thread Lloyd Kvam
> > In the SQL books I've got, they always seem to have an optional
select
> > statement on the end of inserts/updates, and I was thinking maybe I
> > could do it that way also, but I can't figure out a logical way of
> > putting
> >
> > 'select primary_key from foo where primary_key value > every other
> > primary_key value'
> >
> 
> select max(primary_key) from foo?

select max will NOT work reliably when you have concurrent database
inserts.  You could obtain the number from someone else's insert.  

You need to use the function provided by the RDBMS that is tied to your
connection/cursor so that you retrieve the primary_key that was assigned
to *your* record.

(I understood your request to be looking for the primary_key
auto-assigned to your insert statement)

-- 
Lloyd Kvam
Venix Corp

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Re: [Tutor] Python cgi doesn't get data from html form as expected

2005-03-22 Thread Vicki Stanfield
> Please post the HTML for the form you are submitting and the HTML from a
> View Source on the result.
>
> Kent

Sorry to have bothered the list. I figured out the answer (sort of). I had
parse the HTML code through an XHTML parser which removed all the name=
leaving id= only. That doesn't work with the cgi.FieldStorage function. I
still don't know how to do it with XHTML which doesn't evidently support
the name= at all. So, html it is.

Thanks,
Vicki



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[Tutor] CGI script to create an XML document from an HTML form

2005-03-22 Thread Gabriel Farrell
Hi,

I'm just starting to get my feet wet with Python.  I'm trying to write
a CGI script to create an XML document using input from a web form.
The created document would be a MODS record[1], so I already have a
Schema for it.  I think I could make it work if I just feed the input
into a long string as variables, then write that out to a new
document, but I'd like to start investigating some of Python's XML
modules because that's a sexier solution and I'll probably be doing
more work in XML in the future.

I've been looking around at various resources such as the Python/XML
Howto[2], some of the articles by Uche Ogbuji[3], and elsewhere, and
frankly I'm a little overwhelmed by the many seemingly overlapping
methods.  Which one would the wise tutors recommend for my situation?

gabe

[1] http://www.loc.gov/standards/mods/
[2] http://pyxml.sourceforge.net/topics/howto/xml-howto.html
[3] http://www.xml.com/pub/au/84
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Re: [Tutor] Looking for a Pythonic way to pass variable

2005-03-22 Thread Bill Mill
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:30:09 -0500, Kent Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> C Smith wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, Mar 22, 2005, at 05:01 America/Chicago,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> I met a similar question.
> >> what if one has L = [[1,2],[3,4]], K = [100, 200]
> >> How to 'zip' a List like [[1,2,100], [3,4,200]]?
> >>
> > I would do something like:
> >
> > ###
> > for i in range(len(L)):
> >   L[i].append(K[i])
> > ###
> 
> Oh, the light goes on :-) Thanks C Smith!
> 
> Here is another way:
>   >>> L = [[1,2],[3,4]]
>   >>> K = [100, 200]
>   >>> [ x+[y] for x, y in zip(L, K) ]
> [[1, 2, 100], [3, 4, 200]]
> 
> Note C Smith's approach modifies L to include the items in K; my approach 
> makes a new list.

Just for kicks - if you don't mind if the 100 and 200 appear first
instead of last, and conversion of your inner lists to tuples, then:

>>> L = [[1,2], [3,4]]
>>> K = [100, 200]
>>> zip(K, *L)
[(100, 1, 3), (200, 2, 4)]

works, and looks a little nicer. Also, to modify the list in-place
with a listcomp, you could use:

>>> L = [[1,2], [3,4]]
>>> K = [100, 200]
>>> [x.append(y) for x, y in zip(L, K)]
[None, None]
>>> L
[[1, 2, 100], [3, 4, 200]]

And, to create a new list in the format you originally asked for, we
can modify the first trick I showed you:

>>> L = [[1,2], [3,4]]
>>> K = [100, 200]
>>> [[b,c,a] for a,b,c in zip(K, *L)]
[[1, 3, 100], [2, 4, 200]]

which I think is pretty cool, if a little obtuse.

Peace
Bill Mill
bill.mill at gmail.com
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Re: [Tutor] Looking for a Pythonic way to pass variable number of lists to zip()

2005-03-22 Thread Danny Yoo


> well, I would have said "apply(zip, (l1, l2, l3, ...))" but apply has
> been deprecated in 2.3.

Hi Sean,

Sorry for straying away from the original poster's question, but do you
know why apply() is being deprecated?  This is new to me!  ... ok, I see
some discussion on it:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-bugs-list/2004-October/025450.html


And I now see the reference to it in the "Code Migration and
Modernization" PEP 290:

http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0290.html#replace-apply-with-a-direct-function-call


Wow, this is somewhat of a shock to me, that the syntactic sugar approach
is the preferred approach to "apply" in Python.  Ok, thanks for letting me
know.

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Re: [Tutor] CGI script to create an XML document from an HTML form

2005-03-22 Thread Kent Johnson
Gabriel Farrell wrote:
I've been looking around at various resources such as the Python/XML
Howto[2], some of the articles by Uche Ogbuji[3], and elsewhere, and
frankly I'm a little overwhelmed by the many seemingly overlapping
methods.  Which one would the wise tutors recommend for my situation?
I'm a fan of ElementTree for XML work. It is kind of bare-bones but what is there is very easy to 
use. The main thing I miss is full XPath support.
http://effbot.org/zone/element.htm

Kent
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Re: [Tutor] Looking for a Pythonic way to pass variable

2005-03-22 Thread Shidai Liu
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:27:02 -0500, Bill Mill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> zip(K, *L)
> [(100, 1, 3), (200, 2, 4)]

Any idea why zip(*L, K) fails?

-- 
With best wishes!
Shidai
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Re: [Tutor] print command

2005-03-22 Thread nicke
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:57:28 -0500
Kent Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Shitiz Bansal wrote:
> > Now this is so basic, i am feeling sheepish asking
> > about it.
> > I am outputting to the terminal, how do i use a print
> > command without making it jump no newline after
> > execution, which is the default behaviour in python.
> > To clarify:
> > 
> > print 1
> > print 2
> > print 3
> > 
> > I want output to be 
> > 
> > 123
> 
> You can suppress the newline by ending the print statement with a comma, but 
> you will still get the 
> space:
> 
> print 1,
> print 2,
> print 3
> 
> will print
> 1 2 3
> 
> You can get full control of the output by using sys.stdout.write() instead of 
> print. Note the 
> arguments to write() must be strings:
> 
> import sys
> sys.stdout.write(str(1))
> sys.stdout.write(str(2))
> sys.stdout.write(str(3))
> sys.stdout.write('\n')
> 
> Or you can accumulate the values into a list and print the list as Lutz has 
> suggested:
> 
> l = []
> l.append(1)
> l.append(2)
> l.append(3)
> print ''.join(map(str, l))
> 
> where map(str, l) generates a list of strings by applying str() to each 
> element of l:
>   >>> map(str, l)
> ['1', '2', '3']
> 
> and ''.join() takes the resulting list and concatenates it into a single 
> string with individual 
> elements separated by the empty string ''.
> 
> Kent
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why make it difficult? ;)

print 1,
print '\b'+str(2),
print '\b'+str(3)

'\b' is the escape character for backspace.
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Re: [Tutor] Looking for a Pythonic way to pass variable

2005-03-22 Thread Sean Perry
Shidai Liu wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:27:02 -0500, Bill Mill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
zip(K, *L)
[(100, 1, 3), (200, 2, 4)]

Any idea why zip(*L, K) fails?
I believe the *'ed item needs to be the last argument.
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[Tutor] iterating through large dictionary

2005-03-22 Thread jeff
Hi,

I'm trying to print out all the attributes of a user account in active
directory. I got a script from:
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/303348/index_txt

Now I'd like it to print pretty.

What I have now is:

import win32com,win32com.client

def ad_dict(ldap_path,value_required=1):
  attr_dict={}
  adobj=win32com.client.GetObject(ldap_path)
  schema_obj=win32com.client.GetObject(adobj.schema)
  for i in schema_obj.MandatoryProperties:
  value=getattr(adobj,i)
  if value_required and value==None: continue
  attr_dict[i]=value
  for i in schema_obj.OptionalProperties:
  value=getattr(adobj,i)
  if value_required and value==None: continue
  attr_dict[i]=value
  return attr_dict


user='LDAP://cn=Wardlaw\, Jeff,OU=IS Department,OU=IT
department,DC=acpdom,DC=acp,DC=edu'
for k, v in ad_dict(user):
print "%s=%s" % (k, v)


I get the following error when I try this:

D:\Python24>ad-attr.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "D:\Python24\ad-attr.py", line 32, in ?
for k, v in ad_dict(user):
ValueError: too many values to unpack

Thanks!

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[Tutor] Fwd: Math Question

2005-03-22 Thread gerardo arnaez
-- Forwarded message --
From: gerardo arnaez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:33:04 -0800
Subject: Math Question
To: tutor@python.org


This is a resend, but I change the subject so I can track this better,
please excuse duplicate

-- Forwarded message --
From: gerardo arnaez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:32:23 -0800
Subject: Re: Tutor Digest, Vol 13, Issue 65
To: tutor@python.org

Hello,
Im a newbie python user,
love the way it "just makes sense"
but Im also a working doctor and have been thinking about coumadin
and how to dose it.

I am not sure where to ask this, so I am going to ask on this list for
two reasons
1. I intend to use python to prototype it.
2. There must some serious math dudes on this list or at least know
enough math to let me know what I am talking about or point me in the
right direction.

The question is,
When I adjust coumadin doses I normal have to use whole or half pills
of the medicien the patient already has.
Fer Instance, if a pt takes 5mg of coumadin a day, that's 35mg of coumadin week
and suppose I do a test that says thye are not taking enough coumadin
and to increase the dose by 10%, ie add another 3.5mg but have it
split evenly over the week or at least every other day.
normall, I would say ok
Take 5mg coumadine everty but on mon and thurs day take 7.5mg
(Note the patient only has 5mg tabs, which they can split to make dose
adjust my 2.5)

My question is,
How would I solve this using math instead of geustimating it.
What kind of math am I talking about here?

If this is the wrong list, please point in the right direction.
i've tried googlie for help, but I dont know enough to even formulate it into a
a search expression

Thanks all

G

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> >
> > This is a SQL query for the advanced db gurus among you (I'm looking at 
> > Kent...)
>
> Uh oh, you're in trouble if you think I'm an "advanced db guru" :-)
> >
> > After I've run an insert statement, should I get the new primary key
> > (it's autoincrementing) by using PySQLite's cursor.lastrowid in a
> > select statement, or is there a more SQLish way to do this?
>
> AFAIK there is no standard SQL way to do this, it is database-dependent. 
> Python DB-API provides a
> portable interface using lastrowid; I would use that.
>
> You don't have to do another select, lastrowid is an attribute of the cursor 
> itself. It calls the
> SQLite function sqlite_last_insert_rowid().
>
> > In the SQL books I've got, they always seem to have an optional select
> > statement on the end of inserts/updates, and I was thinking maybe I
> > could do it that way also, but I can't figure out a logical way of
> > putting
> >
> > 'select primary_key from foo where primary_key value > every other
> > primary_key value'
>
> Use cursor.lastrowid, that's what it is for.
>
> Kent
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[Tutor] Re: Tutor Digest, Vol 13, Issue 65

2005-03-22 Thread gerardo arnaez
Hello,
Im a newbie python user,
love the way it "just makes sense"
but Im also a working doctor and have been thinking about coumadin
and how to dose it.

I am not sure where to ask this, so I am going to ask on this list for
two reasons
1. I intend to use python to prototype it.
2. There must some serious math dudes on this list or at least know
enough math to let me know what I am talking about or point me in the
right direction.

The question is,
When I adjust coumadin doses I normal have to use whole or half pills
of the medicien the patient already has.
Fer Instance, if a pt takes 5mg of coumadin a day, that's 35mg of coumadin week
and suppose I do a test that says thye are not taking enough coumadin
and to increase the dose by 10%, ie add another 3.5mg but have it
split evenly over the week or at least every other day.
normall, I would say ok
Take 5mg coumadine everty but on mon and thurs day take 7.5mg 
(Note the patient only has 5mg tabs, which they can split to make dose
adjust my 2.5)

My question is,
How would I solve this using math instead of geustimating it.
What kind of math am I talking about here?

If this is the wrong list, please point in the right direction.
i've tried googlie for help, but I dont know enough to even formulate it into a
a search expression

Thanks all

G



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> Cc: Tutor Tutor 
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> Liam Clarke wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is a SQL query for the advanced db gurus among you (I'm looking at 
> > Kent...)
> 
> Uh oh, you're in trouble if you think I'm an "advanced db guru" :-)
> >
> > After I've run an insert statement, should I get the new primary key
> > (it's autoincrementing) by using PySQLite's cursor.lastrowid in a
> > select statement, or is there a more SQLish way to do this?
> 
> AFAIK there is no standard SQL way to do this, it is database-dependent. 
> Python DB-API provides a
> portable interface using lastrowid; I would use that.
> 
> You don't have to do another select, lastrowid is an attribute of the cursor 
> itself. It calls the
> SQLite function sqlite_last_insert_rowid().
> 
> > In the SQL books I've got, they always seem to have an optional select
> > statement on the end of inserts/updates, and I was thinking maybe I
> > could do it that way also, but I can't figure out a logical way of
> > putting
> >
> > 'select primary_key from foo where primary_key value > every other
> > primary_key value'
> 
> Use cursor.lastrowid, that's what it is for.
> 
> Kent
> 
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> Terry Johnson wrote:
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> > some old qbasic and very little c and perl. I have been wanting to write
> >  my own Web Server Program and when I saw a few times mentioned around
> > python about it I am starting to check into it. If the is anyone who has
> > done such a thing or can oint me in the best direction for learning
> > about it please respond. Thanks in Advance
> 
> There are many options for doing this. For a very simple server you might 
> look at the standard
> library modules mentioned by Lutz; 

[Tutor] Math Question

2005-03-22 Thread gerardo arnaez
This is a resend, but I change the subject so I can track this better,
please excuse duplicate


-- Forwarded message --
From: gerardo arnaez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:32:23 -0800
Subject: Re: Tutor Digest, Vol 13, Issue 65
To: tutor@python.org


Hello,
Im a newbie python user,
love the way it "just makes sense"
but Im also a working doctor and have been thinking about coumadin
and how to dose it.

I am not sure where to ask this, so I am going to ask on this list for
two reasons
1. I intend to use python to prototype it.
2. There must some serious math dudes on this list or at least know
enough math to let me know what I am talking about or point me in the
right direction.

The question is,
When I adjust coumadin doses I normal have to use whole or half pills
of the medicien the patient already has.
Fer Instance, if a pt takes 5mg of coumadin a day, that's 35mg of coumadin week
and suppose I do a test that says thye are not taking enough coumadin
and to increase the dose by 10%, ie add another 3.5mg but have it
split evenly over the week or at least every other day.
normall, I would say ok
Take 5mg coumadine everty but on mon and thurs day take 7.5mg
(Note the patient only has 5mg tabs, which they can split to make dose
adjust my 2.5)

My question is,
How would I solve this using math instead of geustimating it.
What kind of math am I talking about here?

If this is the wrong list, please point in the right direction.
i've tried googlie for help, but I dont know enough to even formulate it into a
a search expression

Thanks all

G

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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:00:16 -0500
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> Subject: Re: [Tutor] OT - SQL methodology.
> Cc: Tutor Tutor 
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
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> Liam Clarke wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is a SQL query for the advanced db gurus among you (I'm looking at 
> > Kent...)
>
> Uh oh, you're in trouble if you think I'm an "advanced db guru" :-)
> >
> > After I've run an insert statement, should I get the new primary key
> > (it's autoincrementing) by using PySQLite's cursor.lastrowid in a
> > select statement, or is there a more SQLish way to do this?
>
> AFAIK there is no standard SQL way to do this, it is database-dependent. 
> Python DB-API provides a
> portable interface using lastrowid; I would use that.
>
> You don't have to do another select, lastrowid is an attribute of the cursor 
> itself. It calls the
> SQLite function sqlite_last_insert_rowid().
>
> > In the SQL books I've got, they always seem to have an optional select
> > statement on the end of inserts/updates, and I was thinking maybe I
> > could do it that way also, but I can't figure out a logical way of
> > putting
> >
> > 'select primary_key from foo where primary_key value > every other
> > primary_key value'
>
> Use cursor.lastrowid, that's what it is for.
>
> Kent
>
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[Tutor] Apology

2005-03-22 Thread gerardo arnaez
I apologize to the group for the dupes and not cutting the extended
tail of my previous messages
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RE: [Tutor] iterating through large dictionary

2005-03-22 Thread Christian Wyglendowski
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jeff
> 
> Hi,

Hey Jeff,
 
> I'm trying to print out all the attributes of a user account in active
> directory. I got a script from:
> http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/303348
> /index_txt

Hhhmm... I have some code that does basically the same thing, sans the
printing.  Mine looks up the user based on the sAMAccountName instead of
the distinguishedName, though.

> Now I'd like it to print pretty.

[SNIP function]

> user='LDAP://cn=Wardlaw\, Jeff,OU=IS Department,OU=IT
> department,DC=acpdom,DC=acp,DC=edu'
> for k, v in ad_dict(user):
> print "%s=%s" % (k, v)
> 
> I get the following error when I try this:
> 
> D:\Python24>ad-attr.py
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "D:\Python24\ad-attr.py", line 32, in ?
> for k, v in ad_dict(user):
> ValueError: too many values to unpack

Try this instead ... I think it should help:



for k,v in ad_dict(user).items():



HTH,

Christian
http://www.dowski.com
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Re: [Tutor] iterating through large dictionary

2005-03-22 Thread jeff
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:47:19 -0600, Christian Wyglendowski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jeff
> >
> > Hi,
> 
> Hey Jeff,
> 
> > I'm trying to print out all the attributes of a user account in active
> > directory. I got a script from:
> > http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/303348
> > /index_txt
> 
> Hhhmm... I have some code that does basically the same thing, sans the
> printing.  Mine looks up the user based on the sAMAccountName instead of
> the distinguishedName, though.
> 
> > Now I'd like it to print pretty.
> 
> [SNIP function]
> 
> > user='LDAP://cn=Wardlaw\, Jeff,OU=IS Department,OU=IT
> > department,DC=acpdom,DC=acp,DC=edu'
> > for k, v in ad_dict(user):
> > print "%s=%s" % (k, v)
> >
> > I get the following error when I try this:
> >
> > D:\Python24>ad-attr.py
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "D:\Python24\ad-attr.py", line 32, in ?
> > for k, v in ad_dict(user):
> > ValueError: too many values to unpack
> 
> Try this instead ... I think it should help:
> 
> 
> 
> for k,v in ad_dict(user).items():
> 
> 

yup, that was it.

now i've got to make it pretty.

-- 
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Re: [Tutor] iterating through large dictionary

2005-03-22 Thread Sean Perry
D:\Python24>ad-attr.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "D:\Python24\ad-attr.py", line 32, in ?
   for k, v in ad_dict(user):
ValueError: too many values to unpack

Try this instead ... I think it should help:

for k,v in ad_dict(user).items():

in 2.3 and newer, the preferred function is 'iteritems()' instead of 
'items()'. Faster, less mem use, etc.
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Re: [Tutor] Apology

2005-03-22 Thread Sean Perry
gerardo arnaez wrote:
I apologize to the group for the dupes and not cutting the extended
tail of my previous messages
apology accepted. Your penance is to rewrite one of your python programs 
in Perl.

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Re: [Tutor] OT - SQL methodolgy

2005-03-22 Thread Liam Clarke
Hi Lloyd, it's a SQLite database, with only one app connecting, so I'm
not worried about concurrency right here, ( I think SQLite locks when
you connect anyway), but it's always good to get pointers on best
practise.


Thanks to all. 


On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:10:24 -0500, Lloyd Kvam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > In the SQL books I've got, they always seem to have an optional
> select
> > > statement on the end of inserts/updates, and I was thinking maybe I
> > > could do it that way also, but I can't figure out a logical way of
> > > putting
> > >
> > > 'select primary_key from foo where primary_key value > every other
> > > primary_key value'
> > >
> >
> > select max(primary_key) from foo?
> 
> select max will NOT work reliably when you have concurrent database
> inserts.  You could obtain the number from someone else's insert.
> 
> You need to use the function provided by the RDBMS that is tied to your
> connection/cursor so that you retrieve the primary_key that was assigned
> to *your* record.
> 
> (I understood your request to be looking for the primary_key
> auto-assigned to your insert statement)
> 
> --
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> Venix Corp
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[Tutor] Livewires Help

2005-03-22 Thread guadaluperdg
Does python tutor cover livewires w.s help?
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Re: [Tutor] Fwd: Math Question

2005-03-22 Thread Alan Gauld
OK, No fancy math here, so thee might be a cleaner way, but here
is how I'd do it.

> (Note the patient only has 5mg tabs, which they can split to make
dose
> adjust my 2.5)

OK< so we are dealing with a unit size of 2.5mg. Convert the total
dosage into 2.5mg units. 35mg = 35/2.5 = 14 units

Divide the number of units by the number of days using integer
division:

divmod(14,7)   -> 2,0

that tells us you need 2 units per day and no adjustment

Add 10% => 14 + 1.4 = 15.4 units. YOu must decide to either
round up or down, lets say you round up to 16 units

divide the doze as before

divmod(16,7)   -> 2,2

that says 2 units per day and on 2 days an extra unit.
(Which was your guestimate)

If you rounded down to 15

divmoid(15,7)  -> 2,1

which is 2 units/day and 1 day with an extra unit.

> How would I solve this using math instead of geustimating it.
> What kind of math am I talking about here?

integer math with a hint of quantum techniques thrown in

If the above didn't make sense just shout and we can explain
in more detail.

Alan G
Author of the Learn to Program web tutor
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[Tutor] .readlines() condensing multiple lines

2005-03-22 Thread Mike Hall
Unless I'm mistaken .readlines() is supposed to return a list, where 
each index is a line from the file that was handed to it. Well I'm 
finding that it's putting more than one line of my file into a single 
list entry, and separating them with \r. Surely there's a way to have a 
one to one correlation between len(list) and the lines in the file the 
list was derived from...? 

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[Tutor] What does Python gain by having immutable types?

2005-03-22 Thread Tony C
 A friend recently asked my this didn't modify his original string variable

s1="this is a string"
s1.replace("is a", "is a short")
"this is a short string"
print s1
"this is a string"


After showing him to change it to this
s1 = s1.replace("is a", "is a short")
print s1
"this is a short string"


He then asked
Why is it that the sort operation modfies the original list variable?

l1=[]
l1.append(3)
l1.append(44)
l1.append(1)
l1.append(22)
l1
[3, 44, 1, 22]
l1.sort()
l1
[1, 3, 22, 44]

I don't know, but I think it has something to do with strings being
immutable, whiles lists are mutable.

So, other than the non-informative answer " because that's how the
language was written" are there any other reasons how Python benefits
from immutable types?

Does it really matter if s1 is a different object, so long as it
contains the expected
modified string?

The list variable is the same object, and contains the sorted list, so
why bother with the complexity of immutable types at all?
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Re: [Tutor] What does Python gain by having immutable types?

2005-03-22 Thread Sean Perry
Tony C wrote:
The list variable is the same object, and contains the sorted list, so
why bother with the complexity of immutable types at all?
* only immutable objects can be dictionary keys
* specifically immutable strings are a performance optimization
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Re: [Tutor] Fwd: Math Question

2005-03-22 Thread gerardo arnaez
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:59:00 -, Alan Gauld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, No fancy math here, so thee might be a cleaner way, but here
> is how I'd do it.
> 

Yikes.
Thanks for insight and solving it,
Btw, I bought your book a while ago  and it was the first that
explained classes to me in a a a way I got it, by explaining exactly
what *self* stood for in all the examples.
All the other books just went on, and never even thought of explaining
leaving me for months in a dizzy on what the heck *self* meant in
making classes

Thanks for that and the help here


> > (Note the patient only has 5mg tabs, which they can split to make
> dose
> > adjust my 2.5)
> 
> OK< so we are dealing with a unit size of 2.5mg. Convert the total
> dosage into 2.5mg units. 35mg = 35/2.5 = 14 units
> 
> Divide the number of units by the number of days using integer
> division:
> 
> divmod(14,7)   -> 2,0
> 
> that tells us you need 2 units per day and no adjustment
> 
> Add 10% => 14 + 1.4 = 15.4 units. YOu must decide to either
> round up or down, lets say you round up to 16 units
> 
> divide the doze as before
> 
> divmod(16,7)   -> 2,2
> 
> that says 2 units per day and on 2 days an extra unit.
> (Which was your guestimate)
> 
> If you rounded down to 15
> 
> divmoid(15,7)  -> 2,1
> 
> which is 2 units/day and 1 day with an extra unit.
> 
> > How would I solve this using math instead of geustimating it.
> > What kind of math am I talking about here?
> 
> integer math with a hint of quantum techniques thrown in
> 
> If the above didn't make sense just shout and we can explain
> in more detail.
> 
> Alan G
> Author of the Learn to Program web tutor
> http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld
> 
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Re: [Tutor] .readlines() condensing multiple lines

2005-03-22 Thread Liam Clarke
>From the docs - 

In addition to the standard fopen() values mode  may be 'U' or 'rU'.
If Python is built with universal newline support (the default) the
file is opened as a text file, but lines may be terminated by any of
'\n', the Unix end-of-line convention, '\r', the Macintosh convention
or '\r\n', the Windows convention. All of these external
representations are seen as '\n'  by the Python program. If Python is
built without universal newline support mode 'U' is the same as normal
text mode. Note that file objects so opened also have an attribute
called newlines which has a value of None (if no newlines have yet
been seen), '\n', '\r', '\r\n', or a tuple containing all the newline
types seen.


So, try 

x = file(myFile, 'rU').readlines()

Or try:

x = file(myFile, 'rU')
for line in x:
 #do stuff

Let us know how that goes. 

Regards, 

Liam Clarke

PS 

Worse come to worse, you could always do - 
x = file(myFile, 'r').read()
listX = x.split('\r')



On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:10:43 -0800, Mike Hall
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Unless I'm mistaken .readlines() is supposed to return a list, where
> each index is a line from the file that was handed to it. Well I'm
> finding that it's putting more than one line of my file into a single
> list entry, and separating them with \r. Surely there's a way to have a
> one to one correlation between len(list) and the lines in the file the
> list was derived from...?
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Re: [Tutor] Livewires Help

2005-03-22 Thread Kent Johnson
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Does python tutor cover livewires w.s help?
We will try to answer any questions except direct homework questions. Do you have a specific 
question or problem?

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Re: [Tutor] .readlines() condensing multiple lines

2005-03-22 Thread Kent Johnson
Liam Clarke wrote:
Worse come to worse, you could always do - 
x = file(myFile, 'r').read()
listX = x.split('\r')
This will leave the \n in the strings. Reading with universal newlines is a 
better solution.
Kent
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Re: [Tutor] .readlines() condensing multiple lines

2005-03-22 Thread Liam Clarke
Oh right, From his email, I got the impression he was getting a list like - 
[[abc\rdef\rghi\r]]




On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:12:12 -0500, Kent Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Liam Clarke wrote:
> > Worse come to worse, you could always do -
> > x = file(myFile, 'r').read()
> > listX = x.split('\r')
> 
> This will leave the \n in the strings. Reading with universal newlines is a 
> better solution.
> 
> Kent
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