[tor-talk] TOR Network Map
Hi All, The TOR Newtork Map was a very informative and attractive tool for explaining TOR to potential users. Now that the TOR bundle and TAILS don't include the network map software anymore what would be an alternative? -- -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military
Many people use TOR without understanding enough about how it works. They trust TOR because of what they hear about it without their own verification. TOR is just a tool not the solution and you have to know how to use it correctly. -- > controlled opposition is why i skreech about tor - that it is looked to as > THE SOLUTION ... they know what people are using - not as bad as controlled > demolition but... > > would be more effective if people were working on different projects for > security as many as possible > On Jul 29, 2015 11:57 PM, "Alexandre Guillioud" < > guillioud.alexan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I would risk a dumb question : how can it be 'controlled opposition" when > > their (NSA) capacities to listen to whoever they want on tor havn't been > > demonstrated nor refuted ? > > > > Le mercredi 29 juillet 2015, Juan a écrit : > > > > > On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:32:56 + > > > Virgil Griffith > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military > > > >> ntending to use Tor for? > > > > > > me: > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly the same things they use it for right now. > > > > > > > > Communications for their murdering operations, spying, > > > > propaganda. > > > > > > > > Spread of american fascism. > > > > > > > > > addendum : a Pretty Good Name (PGN) and description for tor is > > > 'controlled opposition'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > > > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > > > > -- > > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > > -- > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military
Great idea! -- > devjimsm...@safe-mail.net: > > Many people use TOR without understanding enough about how it works. > > They trust TOR because of what they hear about it without their own > > verification. TOR is just a tool not the solution and you have to > > know how to use it correctly. > > The Tor team should prepare a list of quiz questions. And at every start > the user should answer correctly at least 198 out of 200 questions. And > the results should be published on a public site with name, ID number > and home address so people could build up relevant statistics about the > less knowledgeable that wish to use *our* network to watch *their* porn. > -- > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military
There's enough information available on the internet to gain good knowledge of how to use TOR. Making sure you know the tools you're using is your responsibility. Looking at porn isn't called illegal, *most* self-contained people should be fine using clearnet. -- > > The Tor team should prepare a list of quiz questions. And at every start > the user should answer correctly at least 198 out of 200 questions. And > the results should be published on a public site with name, ID number > and home address so people could build up relevant statistics about the > less knowledgeable that wish to use *our* network to watch *their* porn. > -- > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military
My friend if you hear whinning someone should 'help' you *read* my post. > People which need tor for security, anonymity, can and will inform > themselves.. If they don't, they risk exactly what they were risking > withiut it. Also never say something is a fact about all people that need tor for security, anonymity. > Seriously, what are you whinning about ? You need attention ? That's why ? You appear to be getting of topic here. Please try to relax, there's no problem. Everything is okay. -- > If 'most' of these 'uninformed' peoples should be 'fine' using clearnet, > then, why are you whinning ? > I mean, if they use the tool incorrectly, they will only face no danger. > > People which need tor for security, anonymity, can and will inform > themselves.. If they don't, they risk exactly what they were risking > withiut it. > > A bunch a 'bulldogs' is already debunking these fake stories about being > sniffed while using tor and thing like that. > > Seriously, what are you whinning about ? You need attention ? That's why ? > > Le jeudi 30 juillet 2015, a écrit : > > > There's enough information available on the internet to gain good > > knowledge of how to use TOR. Making sure you know the tools you're using is > > your responsibility. > > > > Looking at porn isn't called illegal, *most* self-contained people should > > be fine using clearnet. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > The Tor team should prepare a list of quiz questions. And at every start > > > the user should answer correctly at least 198 out of 200 questions. And > > > the results should be published on a public site with name, ID number > > > and home address so people could build up relevant statistics about the > > > less knowledgeable that wish to use *our* network to watch *their* porn. > > > -- > > > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > > > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > -- > > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > > -- > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military
This isn't a debate and you appear to have a problem with anger. You should deal with that. > I will stop discussing with you now. Troll or dumb, that's not my problem > and i will not give more time to it. > Your response wasn't edifying. In future replies try to offer something that edifies people instead of hostility. > Plus, making citation on two weird sentences i wrote a 2am, out of a long > and meaningful message, is equally plain non sense. Folly is low energy and makes it hard to be intelligent. That's probably your problem. Who cares about your mistake? Stop whining. -- Original Message From: Alexandre Guillioud Apparently from: tor-talk-boun...@lists.torproject.org To: "tor-talk@lists.torproject.org" Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Historically speaking,what was the U.S. navy /military Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 02:12:22 +0200 > Reread a few post back. > First you are whining about tor being misused, and after being put in place > by Lara, you say "internet is full of ressources anyway" ? > > Plain nonsense. > > Plus, making citation on two weird sentences i wrote a 2am, out of a long > and meaningful message, is equally plain non sense. > > I will stop discussing with you now. Troll or dumb, that's not my problem > and i will not give more time to it. > > Le jeudi 30 juillet 2015, a écrit : > > > My friend if you hear whinning someone should 'help' you *read* my post. > > > > > People which need tor for security, anonymity, can and will inform > > > themselves.. If they don't, they risk exactly what they were risking > > > withiut it. > > > > Also never say something is a fact about all people that need tor for > > security, anonymity. > > > > > Seriously, what are you whinning about ? You need attention ? That's why > > ? > > > > You appear to be getting of topic here. Please try to relax, there's no > > problem. Everything is okay. > > > > > > -- > > > > > If 'most' of these 'uninformed' peoples should be 'fine' using clearnet, > > > then, why are you whinning ? > > > I mean, if they use the tool incorrectly, they will only face no danger. > > > > > > People which need tor for security, anonymity, can and will inform > > > themselves.. If they don't, they risk exactly what they were risking > > > withiut it. > > > > > > A bunch a 'bulldogs' is already debunking these fake stories about being > > > sniffed while using tor and thing like that. > > > > > > Seriously, what are you whinning about ? You need attention ? That's why > > ? > > > > > > Le jeudi 30 juillet 2015, > a > > écrit : > > > > > > > There's enough information available on the internet to gain good > > > > knowledge of how to use TOR. Making sure you know the tools you're > > using is > > > > your responsibility. > > > > > > > > Looking at porn isn't called illegal, *most* self-contained people > > should > > > > be fine using clearnet. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Tor team should prepare a list of quiz questions. And at every > > start > > > > > the user should answer correctly at least 198 out of 200 questions. > > And > > > > > the results should be published on a public site with name, ID number > > > > > and home address so people could build up relevant statistics about > > the > > > > > less knowledgeable that wish to use *our* network to watch *their* > > porn. > > > > > -- > > > > > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > > > > > > > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > > > > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > > > -- > > > > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > > > > > > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > > > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > > > > > > -- > > > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > > > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > -- > > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > > -- > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
