[tcpdump-workers] Link-Layer Header Type request for Linux Kernel Messages

2013-04-17 Thread Michal.Labedzki
Hello,

I would like to request a new link-layer header type value:
LINKTYPE_DEV_KMSG_LINUX
DLT_DEV_KMSG_LINUX

and

LINKTYPE_KLOG_LINUX
DLT_KLOG_LINUX

Linux Kernel Message can be captured on Linux by /dev/kmsg and klogctl. Kernel 
logs can be useful for analysis Linux and network(etc.) behaviour.
Test patch for libpcap for /dev/kmsg is prepared, so you can test it: 
https://github.com/MichalLabedzki/libpcap/commit/c671673753bba413fe3fc839425162d682289bec
 (works kernel >= 3.5 and /dev/kmsg, patch need some fixes to check that)

Capture format specification is available at:
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/tree/Documentation/ABI/testing/dev-kmsg

Linux logs can be dissected by Wireshark to improve readability/filtering.

There is also klogctl (http://linux.die.net/man/3/klogctl) and /proc/kmsg - but 
there is different format. So another Linktype can be add.


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Re: [tcpdump-workers] Link-Layer Header Type request for Linux Kernel Messages

2013-05-14 Thread Michal.Labedzki
Hi, 

Are there any comments on that? (since month)


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[tcpdump-workers] Link-Layer Header Types request for Android

2013-05-14 Thread Michal.Labedzki
Hello,

I would like to request a new link-layer header type values:
LINKTYPE_ANDROID_ADB
DLT_ANDROID_ADB

LINKTYPE_ANDROID_LOGGER
DLT_ANDROID_LOGGER

First is ADB. Android Debug Bridge is protocols used to manage Android 
platforms (connect, send command, receive data). Please check also Android 
documentation: http://developer.android.com/tools/help/adb.html
For example: There are commands like: OKAY, WRTE (write),  CLSE (close), etc. 
They can be dissected, for example in Wireshark.

Second: Android Logger (knowns as Logcat logs) is format of (debug, for analyse 
of issues) Android processes messages.  Logger is something like Linux kernel 
messages or/and syslog.
You can see implementation on Wireshark side - it can be useful to understand 
this request:  
https://bugs.wireshark.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=8279

Main purpose of Logger: add system logs allow to analyse application/protocols 
issues. (example: file over Bluetooth is not send and there is logcat log 
"socket not open: permission denied")
Main purpose of ADB: it is protocols.

Technically:
1. There can be a lot of Android interfaces: see "adb devices" (one interface 
per device [formally two: one for ADB, second for LOGCAT])
2. Logger can be put over ADB.
3. ADB can be put over TCP (adb connect localhost) or USB (default).


I think you can replace LOGGER by LOGCAT is you think that "logcat" is more 
clear.

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Re: [tcpdump-workers] Link-Layer Header Type request for Linux Kernel Messages

2013-05-15 Thread Michal.Labedzki
Hi,

I guess area what I am working blur the boundaries of existing tools. So what 
about feature? (maybe it is time to little extend tool boundary)
Linux Kernel Messages and Android Logs are similar to "syslog", ok, but think 
about wide perspective.

The question are:
1. What can be supported by libpcap, but what cannot be. (~ we need one tool or 
two/infinite number of tools)
2. kmsg/syslog seems to be helper for other payloads analyse, so why it cannot 
be keep together? (for example: kernel close data socket, we know that from 
kernel logs and see that in protocol payloads)
3. Should I think about new tool? (On the other hand - my ideas should not 
completely break your tool or primary intention and should not disturb anyone)
4. kmsg seems to be regular interface, we can treat log as packet (or packet as 
log!), compute received, dropped, etc.

PS. If all logs are in pcap (kernel, application logs [syslog/logcat], networks 
payloads  (Internet, Bluetooth, NFC, DBus, etc...)  ), than user can simply 
send it to developer, and we do not need syslog anymore.

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> "Michal" == Michal Labedzki  writes:
Michal> Are there any comments on that? (since month)

I agree... I don't understand why putting these things into a pcap layer
helps anyone.

Have you looked at:
 http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/syslog/charter/

and
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc5848/

might provide a more standard, more portable container?

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Re: [tcpdump-workers] Link-Layer Header Type request for Linux Kernel Messages

2013-05-15 Thread Michal.Labedzki
Hi,

Ok. Let start thinking only about: LINKTYPE_DEV_KMSG_LINUX & 
DLT_DEV_KMSG_LINUX, other can be ignored because /dev/kmsg is only one which 
can be used easy and powerfully. Implementation on two sides is ready (libpcap 
and Wireshark)


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Re: [tcpdump-workers] DLT for Bluetooth Low Energy

2013-06-11 Thread Michal.Labedzki
Hi,

This is good idea. +1 from me.
What name is proposed for new values?

DLT_BLUETOOTH_LL?
DLT_BLUETOOTH_LE?
other?


According to pointed specification, "2.1.2.2 Link Manager":
". The link manager achieves this by communicating with the link manager in 
remote Bluetooth devices using the Link Management Protocol (LMP) in BR/EDR and 
the
Link Layer Protocol (LL) in LE."... maybe it is good idea to request two new 
DLT too :
1. For Bluetooth LMP (described in the same specification, page 455) (optional 
for me)
2. For Ubertooth (preferred by me)


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