Re: [tcpdump-workers] bpf.tcpdump.org vs github

2014-11-25 Thread Denis Ovsienko
> c) there is some issue (please explain more) with bpf.tcpdump.org 
> experiencing auto-merging difficulties. 

When a repository exists in two copies and each copy has the same branch (i.e. 
master) and some new commits go to that branch in one copy but not the other, 
and also the other way around, the branches will look like this (this is how 
GitHub and bpf.tcpdump.org look right now):

a-b-c-d-e-m-n-t
a-b-c-d-e-x-y-z

Then git-merge in any of the directions will not be fast-forward and will 
require explicit merge commits and sometimes conflict resolution. That is 
additional work for no gain. If instead the copies get converged first and then 
new commits go to one copy only, the other copy will always enjoy fast-forward 
pulls, making it possible to run git-pull every 15 minutes from crontab.

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Re: [tcpdump-workers] Official patches for CVE-2014-8767/CVE-2014-8768/CVE-2014-8769?

2014-11-25 Thread Romain Francoise
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:26:06AM -0800, Michal Zalewski wrote:
> I didn't request one, but probably. RH or Debian folks can likely just
> assign one from their pools.

I can ask the Debian security team to assign one, or we can ask
cve-assign@mitre directly. Or perhaps the other Michal can get one via
internal Red Hat channels?

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Re: [tcpdump-workers] Official patches for CVE-2014-8767/CVE-2014-8768/CVE-2014-8769?

2014-11-25 Thread Michal Sekletar
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 09:52:59AM +0100, Romain Francoise wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:26:06AM -0800, Michal Zalewski wrote:
> > I didn't request one, but probably. RH or Debian folks can likely just
> > assign one from their pools.
> 
> I can ask the Debian security team to assign one, or we can ask
> cve-assign@mitre directly. Or perhaps the other Michal can get one via
> internal Red Hat channels?

I will contact Red Hat SRT to look into that.

Michal

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Re: [tcpdump-workers] Official patches for CVE-2014-8767/CVE-2014-8768/CVE-2014-8769?

2014-11-25 Thread Kishore Kumar
Hi All,
I need to capture traffic over dynamically created UDP port, I am unable to
capture some RTP traffic flowing through some dynamic udp port.I am using
latest TCPDUMP version 4.6.2

Please help me in sorting this issue
Thanks,
Kishore

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Michal Sekletar 
wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 09:52:59AM +0100, Romain Francoise wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:26:06AM -0800, Michal Zalewski wrote:
> > > I didn't request one, but probably. RH or Debian folks can likely just
> > > assign one from their pools.
> >
> > I can ask the Debian security team to assign one, or we can ask
> > cve-assign@mitre directly. Or perhaps the other Michal can get one via
> > internal Red Hat channels?
>
> I will contact Red Hat SRT to look into that.
>
> Michal
>
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Re: [tcpdump-workers] bpf.tcpdump.org vs github

2014-11-25 Thread Michal Sekletar
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:01:11PM -0500, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> okay, can we start again.
> I would appreciate some clear data and clear complaints.  
> 
> This is what I heard:
>  a) which is "master", bpf or github?

There are commits on github/master which are not on bpf. We already have
maintenance branch for 4.7 but there was no release yet. No commit on master has
tcpdump-4.7 tag. This is very confusing.

>  b) bpf is unreliable.

I mean an outage for hour or two and regular maintaince windows are
fine but if site is unreachable for days without prior notice then it is
unreliable in my book.

>  c) there is some issue (please explain more) with bpf.tcpdump.org
>  experiencing auto-merging difficulties.

In my opinion you are putting this mildly. I am sorry, but current situation 
with
tcpdump/libpcap git is very unfortunate.
Why auto-merging doesn't work I can't tell. I have no idea who is an admin of
bpf and what cron job doing the merge actually does.

>  d) this CVE process has been botched (I said this, and I take
>  responsability for this)

It could have been much less painful if all of the above was not the case.

> 
> before I propose some solution/policy/adjustment, I want to make sure that
> I've heard all the issues.

I don't follow, you don't like the idea to use GitHub then why we encourage
people to use it as tool for contributing to the project.

Michal

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Re: [tcpdump-workers] Official patches for CVE-2014-8767/CVE-2014-8768/CVE-2014-8769?

2014-11-25 Thread Michal Sekletar
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 03:43:21PM +0100, Michal Sekletar wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 09:52:59AM +0100, Romain Francoise wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:26:06AM -0800, Michal Zalewski wrote:
> > > I didn't request one, but probably. RH or Debian folks can likely just
> > > assign one from their pools.
> > 
> > I can ask the Debian security team to assign one, or we can ask
> > cve-assign@mitre directly. Or perhaps the other Michal can get one via
> > internal Red Hat channels?
> 
> I will contact Red Hat SRT to look into that.

I got a response from a member of Red Hat's SRT stating that since the issue was
already reported publicly they can not assign CVE number. If we want to request
CVE number we should either write to oss-security list or ask MITRE directly.

Michal

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Re: [tcpdump-workers] bpf.tcpdump.org vs github

2014-11-25 Thread Michael Richardson

Michal Sekletar  wrote:
>> okay, can we start again.  I would appreciate some clear data and
>> clear complaints.
>> 
>> This is what I heard: a) which is "master", bpf or github?

> There are commits on github/master which are not on bpf. We already
> have maintenance branch for 4.7 but there was no release yet. No commit
> on master has tcpdump-4.7 tag. This is very confusing.

Right, but the idea was supposed to be that we DO NOT PUBLISH the fault until
after you guys (the distros) actually have a package.So, this is ENTIRELY
ON PURPOSE.   Are you saying that you'd prefer to have a zero-day exploit?

>> b) bpf is unreliable.

> I mean an outage for hour or two and regular maintaince windows are
> fine but if site is unreachable for days without prior notice then it
> is unreliable in my book.

I am unaware of it being unreachable for more than a Sunday afternoon to
Monday morning; and that instability with power was solved.

>> before I propose some solution/policy/adjustment, I want to make sure
>> that I've heard all the issues.

> I don't follow, you don't like the idea to use GitHub then why we
> encourage people to use it as tool for contributing to the project.

github has lots of nice features.

Maybe we should only use github --- certainly when I first proposed github,
many people were uncertain about it --- it was too new, and we were too
experienced with sourceforge coming and going to want to sign up for another
disaster.

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Re: [tcpdump-workers] bpf.tcpdump.org vs github

2014-11-25 Thread Michal Sekletar
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 01:12:18PM -0500, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> Michal Sekletar  wrote:
> >> okay, can we start again.  I would appreciate some clear data and
> >> clear complaints.
> >> 
> >> This is what I heard: a) which is "master", bpf or github?
> 
> > There are commits on github/master which are not on bpf. We already
> > have maintenance branch for 4.7 but there was no release yet. No commit
> > on master has tcpdump-4.7 tag. This is very confusing.
> 
> Right, but the idea was supposed to be that we DO NOT PUBLISH the fault until
> after you guys (the distros) actually have a package.So, this is ENTIRELY
> ON PURPOSE.   Are you saying that you'd prefer to have a zero-day exploit?

Disregarding security patches, those two git trees are out-of-sync anyway. If I
understand current state correctly, then whatever is pushed to GH must be pull 
to
bpf manually. Other way around somewhat works.

> 
> >> b) bpf is unreliable.
> 
> > I mean an outage for hour or two and regular maintaince windows are
> > fine but if site is unreachable for days without prior notice then it
> > is unreliable in my book.
> 
> I am unaware of it being unreachable for more than a Sunday afternoon to
> Monday morning; and that instability with power was solved.

I was also referring to other occurrences in the past. IIRC buildbot was sending
emails to workers multiple times that build is failing and reason at the time
was bpf server unreachability.

> 
> >> before I propose some solution/policy/adjustment, I want to make sure
> >> that I've heard all the issues.
> 
> > I don't follow, you don't like the idea to use GitHub then why we
> > encourage people to use it as tool for contributing to the project.
> 
> github has lots of nice features.
> 
> Maybe we should only use github --- certainly when I first proposed github,
> many people were uncertain about it --- it was too new, and we were too
> experienced with sourceforge coming and going to want to sign up for another
> disaster.

GitHub or something else, I will let this decision to you, core developers. All
I am saying is that having to "master" trees is sub-optimal, confusing and adds
needless work to people.

Michal

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