Re: [SM-USERS] Mail_fetch & gmail
A single GUI for all accounts, of webmail... I think it is not that simple. I will give you a few ideas that are reasonable to me (and also to many friends that use them like me, and even people that have very small tech interests or habilities). 1. An email client like Thunderbird (there are many others that should be capable of the same, in any OS, any PC and most mobiles - mobile are wacky for simple things, these days). With Mozilla Thunderbird we may configure any number of different email accounts. We do not have to put the messages from each different server in just a single place. They may stay where they are, in the server, we just read them and use the service. Eventually, we may move some message to a "favorite" account, for archive or whatever reason we personally may have. Each server can use its own protocol (IMAP, POP), users and passwords, of course. We may filter message and many other "smaller" things. 2. Some webmail services offer the feature to check other email account we may have. For example, Hotmail may check our IMAP account in YahooMail using either our IMAP or POP configuration (the same we would use for Thunderbird or other programs). Basically, the service is moving or copying the messages so we just check one place - his place. Not misterious, but the client has much more flexibility with this feature than Thunderbird (or others). But it exists, people may prefer it. 2.1. Squirrelmail does not have this feature (maybe through some plugin, but I don't know it). It can be achieved indirectly by setting up our secondary email service (in the example above, it's YahooMail) to redirect all messages to another email address. The side effect may be either: the server will also keep a copy of all redirect messages on our account; redirect messages, but keep no copy of them, ever, so they will only be permanent kept in the redirected to destination (and if we do so there). This redirection is not something "just for Squirrelmail". Changing account/address is one common example where such redirection is a desired feature: we don't lose messages from people who has only the "old" address. 3. I see no problem using several tabs or windows to open a few different email account. Right now I have 3 of them running Squirrelmail, for completely different accounts and servers. When I need this, I keep all the mail tabs in one separate browser window, so it is "close enough" to what a program like Thunderbird would do, although it has much less features to the "full set of accounts", obviously. Configuring Squirremail to use IMAP is straight forward, I think. Use the configure program that it has. I was familiar with many details the first time I set it up, so I don't even searched docs for this. It should not be hard for you to discover, I assume. But if you have any problems or doubts that are not covered in the documentation ( http://squirrelmail.org/docs/admin/admin.html ), ask here. :) Using POP instead of IMAP will commonly make the messages stop existing on the server (removed from there) and exist only where the client downloaded them to (which may be a single computer, away from your house). I hope I've been clear and useful (although a bit too long). Regards, André > Hi André > My customer ( email account user) want keep in a single GUI all accounts email > of 3 different providers. > Provider 1 ( Me ), 1 email of customer webpage domain. > Provider 2 ( ISP), 3 emails provided by ISP. Only pop3 allowed > Provider 3 ( gmail), 2 emails provided by gmail. > Of this i dont know if gmail allow imap, and i dont know how configure > squirrelmail to use imap. > > Best Regards > Christian > > El Dom 27 Sep 2015, André Z. D. A. escribió: > >> I am just curious with one detail. Why do you use POP instead of IMAP? >> >>> El Vie 25 Sep 2015, Christian Schmitz escribió: Hi everyone: I am have installed a webmail server (squirrel 1.4.23-svn20150923) i have installed most plugins without problem. The only problem that i have is with mail_fetch. I am trying to check emails from gmail but i get connection error. Looking seem like mail_fetch (the included inside package) do not support TLS. How i can implement or get working TLS on mail_fetch? Best Regards Christian Installed Plugins 1. html_mail 2. filters 3. folder_synch 4. image_buttons 5. show_user_and_ip 6. mail_fetch 7. message_details 8. newmail 9. delete_move_next 10. bug_report 11. jsclock 12. sent_subfolders 13. spamcop 14. administrator 15. calendar 16. info 17. msg_flags 18. squirrelspell 19. translate 20. squirrel_logger 21. dictionary-0.6 22. download_all 23. compatibility 24. smallcal 25. archive_mail 26. add_address 27. attachment_doc 28. autocomplete 29. per_recipie
Re: [SM-USERS] Mail_fetch & gmail
Please stop top-posting. > 2. Some webmail services offer the feature to check other email account we > may have. For example, Hotmail may check our IMAP account in YahooMail using > either our IMAP or POP configuration (the same we would use for Thunderbird > or other programs). Basically, the service is moving or copying the messages > so we just check one place - his place. Not misterious, but the client has > much more flexibility with this feature than Thunderbird (or others). But it > exists, people may prefer it. Also try fetchmail package > 2.1. Squirrelmail does not have this feature (maybe through some plugin, but > I don't know it). Of course it does, in that it's a server-side feature and there are many plugins that support managing such features in SquirrelMail. Also see the mail_fetch plugin. > It can be achieved indirectly by setting up our secondary > email service (in the example above, it's YahooMail) to redirect all > messages to another email address. The side effect may be either: the server > will also keep a copy of all redirect messages on our account; redirect > messages, but keep no copy of them, ever, so they will only be permanent > kept in the redirected to destination (and if we do so there). This > redirection is not something "just for Squirrelmail". Changing > account/address is one common example where such redirection is a desired > feature: we don't lose messages from people who has only the "old" address. > > 3. I see no problem using several tabs or windows to open a few different > email account. Right now I have 3 of them running Squirrelmail, for > completely different accounts and servers. Any cookie-based webmail system can only work like this if all accounts are on different domains. > Configuring Squirremail to use IMAP For Gmail, there is a server type prefix in SquirrelMail. For checking multiple IMAP accounts from the same SquirrelMail login session/account, you need customizations. I have a proprietary plugin that can do this (offlist inquiries please). > >> Hi André >> My customer ( email account user) want keep in a single GUI all accounts >> email >> of 3 different providers. >> Provider 1 ( Me ), 1 email of customer webpage domain. >> Provider 2 ( ISP), 3 emails provided by ISP. Only pop3 allowed >> Provider 3 ( gmail), 2 emails provided by gmail. >> Of this i dont know if gmail allow imap, and i dont know how configure >> squirrelmail to use imap. >> >> Best Regards >> Christian >> >> El Dom 27 Sep 2015, André Z. D. A. escribió: >> >>> I am just curious with one detail. Why do you use POP instead of IMAP? >>> El Vie 25 Sep 2015, Christian Schmitz escribió: > Hi everyone: > I am have installed a webmail server (squirrel 1.4.23-svn20150923) > i have > installed most plugins without problem. The only problem that i have is > with mail_fetch. > I am trying to check emails from gmail but i get connection error. > > Looking seem like mail_fetch (the included inside package) do not > support TLS. > > How i can implement or get working TLS on mail_fetch? > > Best Regards > Christian > > Installed Plugins > 1. html_mail > 2. filters > 3. folder_synch > 4. image_buttons > 5. show_user_and_ip > 6. mail_fetch > 7. message_details > 8. newmail > 9. delete_move_next > 10. bug_report > 11. jsclock > 12. sent_subfolders > 13. spamcop > 14. administrator > 15. calendar > 16. info > 17. msg_flags > 18. squirrelspell > 19. translate > 20. squirrel_logger > 21. dictionary-0.6 > 22. download_all > 23. compatibility > 24. smallcal > 25. archive_mail > 26. add_address > 27. attachment_doc > 28. autocomplete > 29. per_recipient_sent_folders > 30. show_thumb > 31. check_quota > 32. block_attach HI: The answer i mode WORKS FOR ME i found on: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.mail.squirrelmail.plugins/12569 "Not a documented feature, but you can type ssl://host and change the port number, and it will work assuming your PHP version has SSL enabled. tls:// can also be used too. This is because the fsockopen call doesn't attempt to specify a protocol, so you can "cheat" the code by setting it in the hostname" So i configure: server=tls://pop.gmail.com port=995 user pass destination folder. I think that is absolutely required that TLS figure as an option when the user configure mail_fetch in options. Best Regards Christian -- En un mundo sin fronteras ¿Quién necesita Puertas y Ventanas? EN INGLES: In a world without frontiers, who needs Gates and Windows http://www.schdev.com.ar http://gnc2.schdev.com.ar >>> >>> --- >>> --- - >>> squirrelmail-users maili
[SM-USERS] Mail_fetch shows fetch date, not message date
*** Updated Topic *** After building a wheezy 7.8 box (XEN VM) this seems to be a new issue, or I've missed something I did with my last install (10+ years ago). All was installed with apt-get. SquirrelMail version: 1.4.23 [SVN] Config file version:1.4.0 Config file last modified: 29 September 2015 10:45:38 Checking PHP configuration... PHP version 5.4.41-0+deb7u1 OK. Running as www-data(33) / www-data(33) display_errors: error_reporting: 22527 variables_order OK: GPCS. PHP extensions OK. Dynamic loading is disabled. Checking paths... Data dir OK. Attachment dir OK. Plugins OK. Themes OK. Default language OK. Base URL detected as: https://mail.texnet.com/src (location base autodetected) Checking outgoing mail service SMTP server OK (220 mail.texnet.com ESMTP Postfix (Debian/GNU)) Checking IMAP service IMAP server ready (* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UIDPLUS CHILDREN NAMESPACE THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES SORT QUOTA IDLE ACL ACL2=UNION STARTTLS] Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-2011 Double Precision, Inc. See COPYING for distribution information.) Capabilities: * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UIDPLUS CHILDREN NAMESPACE THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES SORT QUOTA IDLE ACL ACL2=UNION STARTTLS Checking internationalization (i18n) settings... gettext - Gettext functions are available. On some systems you must have appropriate system locales compiled. mbstring - Mbstring functions are available. recode - Recode functions are unavailable. iconv - Iconv functions are available. timezone - Webmail users can change their time zone settings. Checking database functions... not using database functionality. Congratulations, your SquirrelMail setup looks fine to me! Plugins Installed Plugins 1. view_as_html 2. calendar 3. mail_fetch 4. message_details 5. compatibility 6. smallcal 7. filters 8. bug_report apache2: Installed: 2.2.22-13+deb7u4 Also installed is mailscanner (deb http://apt.baruwa.org/debian wheezy main) and spamassassin, postfix is configured via mysql DB Not sure how to get to the "bug_report" plugin ;~(> TIA -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- - squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/postingguidelines List address: squirrelmail-users@lists.sourceforge.net List archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List info (subscribe/unsubscribe/change options): https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Mail_fetch & gmail
"Top-posting is a natural consequence of the behavior of the "reply" function in many current e-mail readers, such as Microsoft Outlook, Gmail, and others. By default, these programs insert into the reply message a copy of the original message (without headers and often without any extra indentation or quotation markers), and position the editing cursor above it." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting, accessed in 2015-09-30. I prefer to do it this way. Many mail services and websites can even quote the start of the currect message, leaving quoted parts out (above or bellow the new words, does not matter). I like it. And Squirrelmail also does it. Thank you p...@squirrelmail.org wrote: -- > > Please stop top-posting. -- - squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/postingguidelines List address: squirrelmail-users@lists.sourceforge.net List archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List info (subscribe/unsubscribe/change options): https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
[SM-USERS] [OT] Top-posting
On 9/30/15, André Z. D. A. wrote: > "Top-posting is a natural consequence of the behavior of the "reply" > function in many current e-mail readers, such as Microsoft Outlook, Gmail, > and others. By default, these programs insert into the reply message a copy > of the original message (without headers and often without any extra > indentation or quotation markers), and position the editing cursor above > it." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting, accessed in > 2015-09-30. > > I prefer to do it this way. Many mail services and websites can even quote > the start of the currect message, leaving quoted parts out (above or bellow > the new words, does not matter). I like it. And Squirrelmail also does it. Well, it's nice that you like it. It's not all about you, however. It's a long tradition to post in-line on Open Source mailing lists, and that's one of our mailing list guidelines. Please refresh yourself before top-posting again: Posting guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/postingguidelines -- Paul Lesniewski SquirrelMail Team Please support Open Source Software by donating to SquirrelMail! http://squirrelmail.org/donate_paul_lesniewski.php -- - squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/postingguidelines List address: squirrelmail-users@lists.sourceforge.net List archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List info (subscribe/unsubscribe/change options): https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] [OT] Top-posting
> On 9/30/15, André Z. D. A. wrote: > >> "Top-posting is a natural consequence of the behavior of the "reply" >> function in many current e-mail readers, such as Microsoft Outlook, Gmail, >> and others. By default, these programs insert into the reply message a copy >> of the original message (without headers and often without any extra >> indentation or quotation markers), and position the editing cursor above >> it." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting, accessed in >> 2015-09-30. >> >> I prefer to do it this way. Many mail services and websites can even quote >> the start of the currect message, leaving quoted parts out (above or bellow >> the new words, does not matter). I like it. And Squirrelmail also does it. > > Well, it's nice that you like it. It's not all about you, however. > It's a long tradition to post in-line on Open Source mailing lists, > and that's one of our mailing list guidelines. Please refresh > yourself before top-posting again: > > Posting guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/postingguidelines > Good to see that some documentation exist. But why this is pointed when we join the list? (I just check the message I received when I joined) It is at least normal that many users will not post as you wish... > -- > Paul Lesniewski > SquirrelMail Team > Please support Open Source Software by donating to SquirrelMail! > http://squirrelmail.org/donate_paul_lesniewski.php > > -- > - > squirrelmail-users mailing list > Posting guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/postingguidelines > List address: squirrelmail-users@lists.sourceforge.net > List archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user > List info (subscribe/unsubscribe/change options): > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users -- - squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/postingguidelines List address: squirrelmail-users@lists.sourceforge.net List archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List info (subscribe/unsubscribe/change options): https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
