[SM-USERS] Moving Squirrel Mail Installation

2009-09-29 Thread Vincent Britton

Greetings,

I hopefully have an easy question.

I am looking to move my squirrelmail installation to a new webserver.

Is there any documentation that outlines what work needs to be done?  Can I
just tar up the old squirrelmail Virutal Host and copy it over to the new
webserver?

Thanks for your time.

Vince



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Re: [SM-USERS] Moving Squirrel Mail Installation

2009-09-29 Thread Rajah Fella
send me the detail of the squirrel mail so i can install it for you.

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Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 1:01 PM



Greetings,

I hopefully have an easy question.

I am looking to move my squirrelmail installation to a new webserver.

Is there any documentation that outlines what work needs to be done?  Can I
just tar up the old squirrelmail Virutal Host and copy it over to the new
webserver?

Thanks for your time.

Vince



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Re: [SM-USERS] [1.4.19] email-address from LDAP addressbook is not properly quoted

2009-09-29 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
> > When I'm retrieving an address from LDAP, then the realname containing an
> > Umlaut not being properly quoted.
> 
> Please try the attached patch.  I'm not sure yet if this is a good
> fix, as it may affect other parts of the software.  If you are
> interested in helping, you can test this patch by using SquirrelMail
> as extensively as possible, and by also watching for my post about it
> on the development and/or i18n mailing lists a bit later today.

This patch renders my server inoperable. It drives the load from 2.57
avg. up to 121 (!) in a few minutes.

Interestingly, it seems to work though :)

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Re: [SM-USERS] Moving Squirrel Mail Installation

2009-09-29 Thread Fredrik Jervfors
>> I am looking to move my squirrelmail installation to a new webserver.
>>
>> Is there any documentation that outlines what work needs to be done?  Can
>> I just tar up the old squirrelmail Virutal Host and copy it over to the
>> new  webserver?
>
> send me the detail of the squirrel mail so i can install it for you.

Don't accept. It's a bad idea to give someone unknown control over your
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[SM-USERS] Moving Squirrelmail Server

2009-09-29 Thread Vincent Britton
I had already sent this email, but I sent it before I got my confirmation
that I had joined the list.  If you received this email twice, I apologize.

Greetings,

I hopefully have an easy question.

I am looking to move my squirrelmail installation to a new webserver.

Is there any documentation that outlines what work needs to be done?  Can I
just tar up the old squirrelmail Virtual Host and copy it over to the new
webserver?

Thanks for your time.

Vince



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Re: [SM-USERS] Moving Squirrel Mail Installation

2009-09-29 Thread Roland Fritz
Hi Vincent,

> I hopefully have an easy question.
>
> I am looking to move my squirrelmail installation to a new webserver.
>
> Is there any documentation that outlines what work needs to be done?  Can
> I
> just tar up the old squirrelmail Virutal Host and copy it over to the new
> webserver?
In most cases, yes. Make sure your new webserver uses the same paths. Else
you have to adjust them ;)

Roland.

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[SM-USERS] email addresses truncating

2009-09-29 Thread Barry R Cisna
Hello,

Same email server setup for our school for the last three years
SquirrelMail version 1.4.8-4.0.1..el5.centos.1
Now after editing the global address book for ALL staff for new teachers
,etc., the secretary is getting random errors/bounce backs from the server
as the following:

u...@domain  550 unknown

this is not always the same error for the same user.
Bottom line, I am not sure if it is the squirrelmail address book itself
or the sendmail or dovecot server needs more memory maybe? I don't think
this is the case as I have not done any updating or server configuration
changes.
in the other words out of each staff entry in the address book at some
point the address gets 'chopped off'.
( Of course all users 'after' this entry does not receive the email that
has been sent)
We have the address book setup in the following manner;

A-C staff
D-I staff
etc
when she sends to all entries a-z * with an attachment* this happens.

It NEVER happens when she does not attach an Word document.

I have tried to get the secretaries to use the mailman setup I have had
setup but teachers are generally narrow minded and want s the email in
their own inbox:(.Its a long story not worth explaining.
Even at that this has not happened till this year when a few more teachers
were entered in the global address book of Squirrelmail


Thanks,
Barry


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Re: [SM-USERS] [1.4.19] email-address from LDAP addressbook is not properly quoted

2009-09-29 Thread Paul Lesniewski
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt
 wrote:
>> > When I'm retrieving an address from LDAP, then the realname containing an
>> > Umlaut not being properly quoted.
>>
>> Please try the attached patch.  I'm not sure yet if this is a good
>> fix, as it may affect other parts of the software.  If you are
>> interested in helping, you can test this patch by using SquirrelMail
>> as extensively as possible, and by also watching for my post about it
>> on the development and/or i18n mailing lists a bit later today.
>
> This patch renders my server inoperable. It drives the load from 2.57
> avg. up to 121 (!) in a few minutes.

Huh.  Obviously more analysis is needed.  Are you absolutely sure this
was the only thing you changed before the load skyrocketed?  If it
caused this kind of load, it seems like you would have noticed a part
of the software that became noticeably slower -- did you or your users
notice anything like that?

> Interestingly, it seems to work though :)

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[SM-USERS] email addresses truncating - Fixed

2009-09-29 Thread Barry R Cisna
OK.

Just thought I would post what I found that fixed what appeared to be
email addresses becoming 'truncated' when sending to a number of users.
About 250 at one time. I disabled the quicksave plugin and now emails with
attachments are sending out fine. I know this should probably be posted on
the squirrelmail-plugins forum ( Now that I know that the plugin was in
fact causing the prob).
Don't know what changed as nothing has been updated/changed at all on this
email server since last school year. In time I will be able to pinpoint as
to why the quicksave plugin is causing this snafoo but for now I simple
have quicksave disabled.
Anyone with any ideas are welcome to post their thoughts,,,:)

Thanks,
Barry

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Re: [SM-USERS] email addresses truncating

2009-09-29 Thread Paul Lesniewski
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Barry R Cisna  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Same email server setup for our school for the last three years
> SquirrelMail version 1.4.8-4.0.1..el5.centos.1
> Now after editing the global address book for ALL staff for new teachers
> ,etc., the secretary is getting random errors/bounce backs from the server
> as the following:
>
> u...@domain  550 unknown

This is not entirely clear.  You need to show the full, real bounce.

> this is not always the same error for the same user.
> Bottom line, I am not sure if it is the squirrelmail address book itself
> or the sendmail or dovecot server needs more memory maybe? I don't think
> this is the case as I have not done any updating or server configuration
> changes.

Read your logs to see if there are any error conditions associated
with the send.

> in the other words out of each staff entry in the address book at some
> point the address gets 'chopped off'.
> ( Of course all users 'after' this entry does not receive the email that
> has been sent)

It would help if you could just show the related headers.  Also, you
can and should carefully inspect your mail logs related to the send.
You will be able to count the number of outgoing messages and match
them to the original message's recipients.

> We have the address book setup in the following manner;
>
> A-C staff
> D-I staff
> etc
> when she sends to all entries a-z * with an attachment* this happens.

Depending on how many recipients are on the message, you can
definitely run into limits, not the least of which is the HTTP POST
size limit.

> It NEVER happens when she does not attach an Word document.

Then my guess is that it's a matter of trying to send too much data
over a HTTP POST.  There is no workaround for this other than to
modify how such messages are sent (by the user).  You can test my
theory by duplicating the outgoing message and dumping the $_POST
variable in compose.php (use "sm_print_r($_POST); exit;") when you
click send or maybe by using some browser plugins that can monitor
POST data, etc.

> I have tried to get the secretaries to use the mailman setup I have had
> setup but teachers are generally narrow minded and want s the email in
> their own inbox:(.Its a long story not worth explaining.
> Even at that this has not happened till this year when a few more teachers
> were entered in the global address book of Squirrelmail

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Re: [SM-USERS] email addresses truncating - Fixed

2009-09-29 Thread Paul Lesniewski
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Barry R Cisna  wrote:
> OK.
>
> Just thought I would post what I found that fixed what appeared to be
> email addresses becoming 'truncated' when sending to a number of users.
> About 250 at one time. I disabled the quicksave plugin and now emails with
> attachments are sending out fine. I know this should probably be posted on
> the squirrelmail-plugins forum ( Now that I know that the plugin was in
> fact causing the prob).
> Don't know what changed as nothing has been updated/changed at all on this
> email server since last school year. In time I will be able to pinpoint as
> to why the quicksave plugin is causing this snafoo but for now I simple
> have quicksave disabled.
> Anyone with any ideas are welcome to post their thoughts,,,:)

I find that difficult to believe.  If you are sending to over 250
addresses, and adding a Word document also causes the issue, it seems
clear that you are trying to send too much POST data.  Quicksave does
nothing when you click send.  Maybe the browser counts its cookie size
against the POST data size, but I'm not sure you've found the real
problem - try adding more recipients or a bigger attachment and even
without Quicksave, you'll probably still see the problem.

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Re: [SM-USERS] [1.4.19] email-address from LDAP addressbook is not properly quoted

2009-09-29 Thread Paul Lesniewski
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Paul Lesniewski  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt
>  wrote:
>>> > When I'm retrieving an address from LDAP, then the realname containing an
>>> > Umlaut not being properly quoted.
>>>
>>> Please try the attached patch.  I'm not sure yet if this is a good
>>> fix, as it may affect other parts of the software.  If you are
>>> interested in helping, you can test this patch by using SquirrelMail
>>> as extensively as possible, and by also watching for my post about it
>>> on the development and/or i18n mailing lists a bit later today.
>>
>> This patch renders my server inoperable. It drives the load from 2.57
>> avg. up to 121 (!) in a few minutes.
>
> Huh.  Obviously more analysis is needed.  Are you absolutely sure this
> was the only thing you changed before the load skyrocketed?  If it
> caused this kind of load, it seems like you would have noticed a part
> of the software that became noticeably slower -- did you or your users
> notice anything like that?
>
>> Interestingly, it seems to work though :)

If you are willing to sacrifice usability of your machine for another
five minutes, you can try re-applying that patch, then changing the
following lines in functions/mime.php:

1) comment out line 792 so it looks like:

//case '"':

2) change line 843 so it looks like:

if ($k > 126 || $string{$i} == '"') {

I think this will have the same result, but having a real world test
to help verify would be a big help.  It seems that encoding quotes
makes too much use of this code, but the only other fix is to rewrite
the function parseAddress in the Rfc822Header class because it tries
to parse by and then strip out quotes regardless of if they are
embedded in an encoded part of the string.

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Re: [SM-USERS] email addresses truncating - Fixed

2009-09-29 Thread Barry R Cisna
Paul,

Thank you much!for the feedback. I am sure you are right. I will attach
below the error message i was getting thrown back after sending, but first
I'll try and explain better my findings. As I said this server has had no
problems sending this number of emails(last two years) with word doc
attachments. I let the secretary edit the global address to delete/add new
teachers for the year. ( I am guessing there may be 5-10 extra users in
the ' All Staff" entry that she uses over what was used last school year).
After she edited the global address book is when these errors started
occuring a week ago. I was even considering there being white spaces in
the address book and everything else imaginable. As I have always done the
editing myself,with Firefox. I found today if I selected all staff about
220 users then tried adding her word doc attachment, browse then do the
ADD the quicksave dialog would pop as if the message had just been lost.
This has never done this before. This led me to believe it was quicksave
related? I tried sending and sure enough at the top as soon as i clicked
send I got a 67 error at the top as if I had a wrong email address
entered. This is the error I received. You will see the users
username/email address is "chopped off".the -k should be -kim This would
happen with different users names appearing this way over the last week
FYI.

he following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
strickle...@localhost
(reason: 550 5.1.1 ...
User unknown)
(expanded from: strickle...@localhost)

Bottom line, as soon as I disabled quicksave out of the plugins I could
send the (47k) attachment to all users with no bounce errors.
My current php settings are; 32M memory, 2M file upload,8M HTTP post.
What are your thoughts of increasing the values to memory 64M, and HTTP
post to 16M?
I have never had to alter these so I don't know if there are behind the
scense ramifications to increasing these?
Sorry for the long post.

Take Care,
Barry


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Re: [SM-USERS] email addresses truncating - Fixed

2009-09-29 Thread Paul Lesniewski
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Barry R Cisna  wrote:
> Paul,
>
> Thank you much!for the feedback. I am sure you are right. I will attach
> below the error message i was getting thrown back after sending, but first
> I'll try and explain better my findings. As I said this server has had no
> problems sending this number of emails(last two years) with word doc
> attachments. I let the secretary edit the global address to delete/add new
> teachers for the year. ( I am guessing there may be 5-10 extra users in
> the ' All Staff" entry that she uses over what was used last school year).
> After she edited the global address book is when these errors started
> occuring a week ago. I was even considering there being white spaces in
> the address book and everything else imaginable. As I have always done the
> editing myself,with Firefox. I found today if I selected all staff about
> 220 users then tried adding her word doc attachment, browse then do the
> ADD the quicksave dialog would pop as if the message had just been lost.
> This has never done this before. This led me to believe it was quicksave
> related?

This is key.  When you explain how the error happens you really have
to detail every mouse click.  Clicking to "recover" the message via
quicksave is a very important ingredient.  The problem is that cookie
size is also limited (see Quicksave docs).  With that many recipients,
you have surely exceeded the cookie size limit.  That causes confusion
for Quicksave and thus the popup.  If you click to retrieve what it
had saved for you, you get the truncated list of recipients -
truncated to max cookie size.  You should be able to see the truncated
recipient address right there in your compose form - you don't have to
send the message to see the issue.

> I tried sending and sure enough at the top as soon as i clicked
> send I got a 67 error at the top as if I had a wrong email address
> entered. This is the error I received. You will see the users
> username/email address is "chopped off".the -k should be -kim This would
> happen with different users names appearing this way over the last week
> FYI.
>
> he following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> strickle...@localhost
>    (reason: 550 5.1.1 ...
> User unknown)
>    (expanded from: strickle...@localhost)
>
> Bottom line, as soon as I disabled quicksave out of the plugins I could
> send the (47k) attachment to all users with no bounce errors.
> My current php settings are; 32M memory, 2M file upload,8M HTTP post.
> What are your thoughts of increasing the values to memory 64M, and HTTP
> post to 16M?

HTTP POST size limitations are not related to memory in the web
server.  It's a protocol limitation that you can't change, although
it's possible that some browsers might implement it differently.

> I have never had to alter these so I don't know if there are behind the
> scense ramifications to increasing these?
> Sorry for the long post.

Beside removing Quicksave, the other solution is never to click to
recover a message from Quicksave when working with so many recipients.
 Quicksave will work fine for your other messages.  Note that you are
asking for trouble no matter what you do when you try to put this many
recipients into a single message.  It is very possible that at some
point you WILL hit the HTTP POST limit, too, at which point you will
be forced to find a better solution than you use now.  End users might
whine that they don't want to use a mailing list, but they *do* have
to be educated.  You can also probably set up a simple alias on your
system that redirects to all the staff accounts or to the mailing
list, so the end users can still use their webmail to do what they
want.

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