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[SM-USERS] Looking for advice on best IMAP implementation for speed
We have performance issues with Squirrelmail and imap in general due to users with large amounts of mail. We have one user, the president of the company, who insists on keeping every mail he ever sent anyone or received, and routinely sends 8 MB emails. His mail is topping 4 GB sorted into various folders, and he is bringing our 2 X 2.4 GHz Xeon server to a halt. His email account has become a file system, as he travels extensively and wants access to these files while on the road using Squirrelmail. As he is the president I can’t tell him to clean up his act. My biggest fear is he will insist on a move to Exchange and that it would be faster as I have always advocated Linux servers. I suspect the the standard Redhat 9 uw-imap is not the best imap implementation for this type of usage. Cyrus is interesting but I suspect a bear to administer, and I don’t know what else to consider. What have you found to be faster for users with huge mail accounts, what kind of speed enhancements work, and how did you migrate the users? I'm open to any ideas and comments. Chris Mason -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.4 - Release Date: 11/30/2004 --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id)95 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Several general questions regarding SM (massmailing, Hardware Suggestions, Security Updates)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan Angliss schrieb: | Hello Benjamin, | On Thursday, December 02, 2004, Benjamin Zeller wrote... | | |>But due to the fact, that SuSE (the distribution we use) is offering |>SM as an RPM, we'll be save enough to use their rpm, which is |>maintained by YOU, | | | Cool, when did we start doing that? As far as I know, the only RPM we | maintain is the one on the SM website. | I dont't know since when, but e.g. with SuSE 9.1, there is a squirrelmail-1.4.2-44.noarch.rpm and a squirrelmail-plugins-1.4.1-198.i586.rpm Greetinx, Benni -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBsC8wyqQqpcmyLisRAtUgAJ47GGvon3vbyBUVgVOad4biCRnVbQCgvoQF 379sePiF5Tj+H8VShK9LQnQ= =bpkk -END PGP SIGNATURE- begin:vcard fn:Benjamin Zeller n:Zeller;Benjamin org:WorNet AG adr;quoted-printable:;;B=C3=BCrgermeister-Graf-Ring 28;Geretsried-Gelting;Bavaria;82515;Germany email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:08171-418090 tel;fax:08171-418099 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.wor.net version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [SM-USERS] Several general questions regarding SM (massmailing, Hardware Suggestions, Security Updates)
> |>Regarding the amount of attendance, we are asking ourselves, how much > |>security-updates have been released during the last year. Is there any > |>list, where one could find out? > | > | > | Not really. We are talking about being more intentional about that, but > | if you want to be the safest, use a snapshot of the CVS code from the > | STABLE branch (currently 1.4.4) and you'll be up to date. > | > > I didn't want a list, showing pending vulnarabilites in SM (dont't > guess there are too much). Just wanted to know, how often we need to > update SM to have a secure version. > But due to the fact, that SuSE (the distribution we use) is offering > SM as an RPM, we'll be save enough to use their rpm, which is > maintained by YOU, http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/vendor/ There are search options for SquirrelMail. If you use SLES, you should ask suse representatives about support options. If you use free version of SUSE Linux, SUSE has six months update cycle. But they still provide security patches for older versions. Some suse representative can say more. In case of squirrelmail suse 8.1-9.1 versions should include patches for vulnerabilities fixed in 1.4.3a release. I don't see fixes for latest xss fix. -- Tomas --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Several general questions regarding SM (massmailing, Hardware Suggestions, Security Updates)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomas Kuliavas schrieb: |>|>Regarding the amount of attendance, we are asking ourselves, how much |>|>security-updates have been released during the last year. Is there any |>|>list, where one could find out? |>| |>| |>| Not really. We are talking about being more intentional about that, but |>| if you want to be the safest, use a snapshot of the CVS code from the |>| STABLE branch (currently 1.4.4) and you'll be up to date. |>| |> |>I didn't want a list, showing pending vulnarabilites in SM (dont't |>guess there are too much). Just wanted to know, how often we need to |>update SM to have a secure version. |>But due to the fact, that SuSE (the distribution we use) is offering |>SM as an RPM, we'll be save enough to use their rpm, which is |>maintained by YOU, | | | http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/vendor/ | There are search options for SquirrelMail. | This really was a huge help mate. I just wanted to be able to measure the amount of maintenance work. | If you use SLES, you should ask suse representatives about support options. | | If you use free version of SUSE Linux, SUSE has six months update cycle. | But they still provide security patches for older versions. Some suse | representative can say more. In case of squirrelmail suse 8.1-9.1 versions | should include patches for vulnerabilities fixed in 1.4.3a release. I | don't see fixes for latest xss fix. | SuSE indeed *does* release Security Updates (we're quite firm in using SuSE Linux ;-) ). They do *not* release Version-Updates, they just do patches. Reagarding Security Focus, I conclude, that we are able to maintain SM in our normal maintenance circle, and only skip this one, if there is a critical vulnerability. Greetinx, Benni -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBsEWoyqQqpcmyLisRAvnzAJ0eCnbUJLGko/BhEp48LmzgT77wQwCeLjVJ 1p63QFMBROGi+bYv4q41aG4= =ON8l -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Looking for advice on best IMAP implementation for speed
Chris Mason said: > We have performance issues with Squirrelmail and imap in general due to > users with large amounts of mail. We have one user, the president of the > company, who insists on keeping every mail he ever sent anyone or > received, Same thing I do, why should I be bothered to pull the information out of emails to hard copy, a word processor or PIM? I file my emails into folders and it gives me a simple filing cabinet of all my correspondence. I encourage my users to do likewise. With a president who demands this kind of usage you shouldn't have to hard of a time getting a hardware budget to support it. > and routinely sends 8 MB emails. His mail is topping 4 GB sorted into > various folders, and he is bringing our 2 X 2.4 GHz Xeon server to a halt. > His email account has become a file system, as he travels extensively and > wants access to these files while on the road using Squirrelmail. As he is > the president I cant tell him to clean up his act. My biggest fear is he > will insist on a move to Exchange and that it would be faster as I have > always advocated Linux servers. Then you need to get Linux performing as well as Exchange would. Time for an upgrade. > I suspect the the standard Redhat 9 uw-imap is not the best imap > implementation for this type of usage. No it definitely is not. uw's mailbox storage format is ineffecient (at least in terms of speed) and prone to corruption. It's also a memory hog. > Cyrus is interesting but I suspect > a > bear to administer, Yes, it is (a bear) > and I dont know what else to consider. What have you > found to be faster for users with huge mail accounts, what kind of speed > enhancements work, Consider Courier-IMAP http://www.courier-mta.org It's a simple setup, especially on RedHat based systems where you can quickly compile the RPM from source. Courier stores messages in Maildirs, these are much quicker and nearly immune to locking/corruption issues because 1 email = 1 file. In addition to the storage format, Courier uses much less memory and resources to begin with. I have folders with +10,000 emails and they still open in seconds. > and how did you migrate the users? Back in January, I migrated about 1,000 accounts from a Windows IMAP Server with mail storage similar to UW-IMAP over to Courier-IMAP. I created a squirrelmail plugin that makes use of Armin Diehl's IMAPCopy program (http://home.arcor.de/armin.diehl/imapcopy/imapcopy.html) in order to move all messages from the old IMAP Server to the new one. The copy had to occur when the user logged in to Squirrelmail so that their password was available for login to both IMAP Servers. I still have the plugin code posted at http://www.intranet.pbu.edu/imap_move/imap_move.001-1.4.2.tar.gz However, this might not be the best route for you as the accounts I moved were limited to 50mb. 4gb mailboxes would take an eternity. My suggestion would be to manually move the really big accounts then use IMAPCopy or one of the mbox2md (Mailbox to Maildir google for them) scripts. -- Jay Lee Network / Systems Administrator Information Technology Dept. Philadelphia Biblical University -- --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id)95 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Looking for advice on best IMAP implementation for speed
Chris Mason wrote: > We have performance issues with Squirrelmail and imap in general due to > users with large amounts of mail. We have one user, the president of the > company, who insists on keeping every mail he ever sent anyone or received, > and routinely sends 8 MB emails. His mail is topping 4 GB sorted into > various folders, and he is bringing our 2 X 2.4 GHz Xeon server to a halt. > His email account has become a file system, as he travels extensively and > wants access to these files while on the road using Squirrelmail. As he is > the president I can’t tell him to clean up his act. My biggest fear is he > will insist on a move to Exchange and that it would be faster as I have > always advocated Linux servers. sounds to me like squirrelmail is the wrong client. I use mozilla mailnews to read my 14k+ mail folders and it's lightning fast. let's face it, squirrelmail sucks at handling large folders. -- Morten --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id)95 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Looking for advice on best IMAP implementation for speed
>> We have performance issues with Squirrelmail and imap in general due >> to users with large amounts of mail. We have one user, the president >> of the company, who insists on keeping every mail he ever sent anyone >> or received, and routinely sends 8 MB emails. His mail is topping 4 GB >> sorted into various folders, and he is bringing our 2 X 2.4 GHz Xeon >> server to a halt. His email account has become a file system, as he >> travels extensively and wants access to these files while on the road >> using Squirrelmail. As he is the president I cant tell him to clean >> up his act. My biggest fear is he will insist on a move to Exchange >> and that it would be faster as I have always advocated Linux servers. Switch to Cyrus IMAP, use a better filesystem, and yes, perhaps a better client. John -- John Madden UNIX Systems Engineer Ivy Tech State College [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id)95 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Looking for advice on best IMAP implementation for speed
> > I suspect the the standard Redhat 9 uw-imap is not the best imap > implementation for this type of usage. Cyrus is interesting but I suspect > a > bear to administer, and I dont know what else to consider. What have you > found to be faster for users with huge mail accounts, what kind of speed > enhancements work, and how did you migrate the users? I recently switched from uw-imap on RedHat 8 to Courier-imap on Gentoo. My own 22k item mailstore was becoming painfully slow, now using Courier the performance is more than acceptable again. I was previously using one of the php accelerators, with no discernable improvement, so it's no longer part of the setup. In the new setup I am also using up-imapproxy (http://www.imapproxy.org/) which saves squirrelmail having to login and logout of the imap server each time it wants to do anything. I can definitely recommend Courier as a worthwhile improvement over uw. I looked at Cyrus, but as all the users on my network are also shell account users it seemed unnecessarily complex. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id)95 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Looking for advice on best IMAP implementation for speed
Peter Campion-Bye wrote: >> >> I suspect the the standard Redhat 9 uw-imap is not the best imap >> implementation for this type of usage. Cyrus is interesting but I suspect >> a >> bear to administer, and I don’t know what else to consider. What have you >> found to be faster for users with huge mail accounts, what kind of speed >> enhancements work, and how did you migrate the users? > > I recently switched from uw-imap on RedHat 8 to Courier-imap on Gentoo. > My own 22k item mailstore was becoming painfully slow, now using Courier > the performance is more than acceptable again. > I was previously using one of the php accelerators, with no discernable > improvement, so it's no longer part of the setup. > In the new setup I am also using up-imapproxy (http://www.imapproxy.org/) > which saves squirrelmail having to login and logout of the imap server > each time it wants to do anything. > I can definitely recommend Courier as a worthwhile improvement over uw. I'm using courier under trustix, and SM is horribly slow when reading mail in a folder with 14k items (not counting subfolders) > I looked at Cyrus, but as all the users on my network are also shell account > users it seemed unnecessarily complex. I have the notion of Cyrus being a pita. mostly because I use cyrus-sasl for postfix authentication of users. -- Morten --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id)95 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Looking for advice on best IMAP implementation for speed
Chris Mason wrote: [snip] I suspect the the standard Redhat 9 uw-imap is not the best imap implementation for this type of usage. Cyrus is interesting but I suspect a bear to administer, and I don’t know what else to consider. What have you found to be faster for users with huge mail accounts, what kind of speed enhancements work, and how did you migrate the users? I'm open to any ideas and comments. I believe a lot of RH users are using Dovecot. I've been using it (without heavy load) for about a month, having switched from UW, mainly because I wanted to use maildirs and I had a problem (memory) building Courier on my host. My migration was easy cause I only had a handful of users--just set MTA to queue, ran a mbox2maildir script and voila. Todd --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Looking for advice on best IMAP implementation for speed
> > I'm using courier under trustix, and SM is horribly slow when reading > mail in a folder with 14k items (not counting subfolders) Do you have 'Allow server-side sorting = true' (General options - item 12)? My largest folder currently has 4100 items, and loads in under a second. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Looking for advice on best IMAP implementation for speed
Morten Nilsen said: > Chris Mason wrote: >> We have performance issues with Squirrelmail and imap in general due to >> users with large amounts of mail. We have one user, the president of the >> company, who insists on keeping every mail he ever sent anyone or >>received, >> and routinely sends 8 MB emails. His mail is topping 4 GB sorted into >> various folders, and he is bringing our 2 X 2.4 GHz Xeon server to a >>halt. >> His email account has become a file system, as he travels extensively >>and >> wants access to these files while on the road using Squirrelmail. As he >>is >> the president I cant tell him to clean up his act. My biggest fear is >>he >> will insist on a move to Exchange and that it would be faster as I have >> always advocated Linux servers. > > sounds to me like squirrelmail is the wrong client. > > I use mozilla mailnews to read my 14k+ mail folders and it's lightning > fast. > > let's face it, squirrelmail sucks at handling large folders. That's because you've got most of the headers/messages cached on the local machine which would never be possible with a webmail client. Squirrelmail does not suck on large folders but it's never going to be as fast as a "real" IMAP client that does local caching. I can open the first 50 message list of my 11k message folder in 3 seconds flat. That's using Courier and Maildir though, doing the same thing on UW-IMAP/mbox would be quite painful. Jay -- Jay Lee Network / Systems Administrator Information Technology Dept. Philadelphia Biblical University -- --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id)95 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Looking for advice on best IMAP implementation for speed
Peter Campion-Bye wrote: >> >> I'm using courier under trustix, and SM is horribly slow when reading >> mail in a folder with 14k items (not counting subfolders) > > Do you have 'Allow server-side sorting = true' (General options - item 12)? > My largest folder currently has 4100 items, and loads in under a second. no, it was off .. didn't know about it, that really helped usability a lot, thanks :) -- Morten --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Looking for advice on best IMAP implementation for speed
Peter Campion-Bye said: > I can definitely recommend Courier as a worthwhile improvement over uw. I > looked at Cyrus, but as all the users on my network are also shell account > users it seemed unnecessarily complex. Courier IMHO, offers sysadmins the best of both worlds, you can use auth_pam and give mail access to all shell users or you can use auth_ldap, auth_mysql, auth_pgsql or auth_userdb and have virtual users. Jay -- Jay Lee Network / Systems Administrator Information Technology Dept. Philadelphia Biblical University -- --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Looking for advice on best IMAP implementation for speed
Jay Lee wrote: > Morten Nilsen said: >> Chris Mason wrote: >>> We have performance issues with Squirrelmail and imap in general due to >>> users with large amounts of mail. We have one user, the president of the >>> company, who insists on keeping every mail he ever sent anyone or >>>received, >>> and routinely sends 8 MB emails. His mail is topping 4 GB sorted into >>> various folders, and he is bringing our 2 X 2.4 GHz Xeon server to a >>>halt. >>> His email account has become a file system, as he travels extensively >>>and >>> wants access to these files while on the road using Squirrelmail. As he >>>is >>> the president I can’t tell him to clean up his act. My biggest fear is >>>he >>> will insist on a move to Exchange and that it would be faster as I have >>> always advocated Linux servers. >> >> sounds to me like squirrelmail is the wrong client. >> >> I use mozilla mailnews to read my 14k+ mail folders and it's lightning >> fast. >> >> let's face it, squirrelmail sucks at handling large folders. > > That's because you've got most of the headers/messages cached on the local > machine which would never be possible with a webmail client. Squirrelmail > does not suck on large folders but it's never going to be as fast as a > "real" IMAP client that does local caching. I can open the first 50 > message list of my 11k message folder in 3 seconds flat. That's using > Courier and Maildir though, doing the same thing on UW-IMAP/mbox would be > quite painful. I never said sm should/could be as fast. -- Morten --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id)95 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] /tmp directory permissions?
when I turn on safe_mode in php.ini, I get the following error during SM login attempt Error opening ../data/default_pref Default preference file not found or not readable! Please contact your system administrator and report this error. At 06:09 PM 12/2/2004, you wrote: Execute permissions on directories means that users can change into the directory. It has no effect on whether the files inside are executable. Most versions of PHP write their session files to /tmp, so SquirrelMail will require it if that's how your PHP is setup. The data directory is where settings are kept. You need both directories to have the execute bit set so SquirrelMail can write files there. Seth. Scott Kopel said: > I have been using Squirrelmail for a few years with no problems. > I am currently using version 1.4.0 > imap server is uw webserver is apache 1.3.27 a few days ago I found in the > /tmp directory and executable file named "b" > ... which was owned by apache user > I couldn't tell what the file was doing so I deleted it and changed the > permissions to 666 on the /tmp directory.. ie not executable.. when I did > this I found that users couldn't login to squirrelmail so it seems that > squirrelmail requires apache to have execute permission on the /tmp and on > squrrrelmail/data directories. but in my case at least it seems that > apache can write to those files and execute whatever... can anyone shed > any light on this problem? is there anyway to run squirrelmail without > execute permission on the directories /tmp and squirrelmail/data? or is > there any way to keep apache from writing files to these directories and > executing them? thanks for any help > > Scott Kopel > English Department - FSU > 850 644 6177 > > > > > --- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > -- > squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: > http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines > List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > List Archives: > http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user > List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 > List Info: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users > > -- Seth Randall IT Support Specialist Missoula Federal Credit Union [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users Scott Kopel English Department - FSU 850 644 6177 --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] /tmp directory permissions?
> At 06:09 PM 12/2/2004, you wrote: >>Execute permissions on directories means that users can change into the >>directory. It has no effect on whether the files inside are executable. >>Most versions of PHP write their session files to /tmp, so SquirrelMail >>will require it if that's how your PHP is setup. The data directory is >>where settings are kept. You need both directories to have the execute >>bit set so SquirrelMail can write files there. >> >>Seth. >>Scott Kopel said: >> > I have been using Squirrelmail for a few years with no problems. >> > I am currently using version 1.4.0 >> > imap server is uw webserver is apache 1.3.27 a few days ago I found in >> the >> > /tmp directory and executable file named "b" >> > ... which was owned by apache user >> > I couldn't tell what the file was doing so I deleted it and changed >> the >> > permissions to 666 on the /tmp directory.. ie not executable.. when I >> did >> > this I found that users couldn't login to squirrelmail so it seems >> that >> > squirrelmail requires apache to have execute permission on the /tmp >> and on >> > squrrrelmail/data directories. but in my case at least it seems that >> > apache can write to those files and execute whatever... can anyone >> shed >> > any light on this problem? is there anyway to run squirrelmail without >> > execute permission on the directories /tmp and squirrelmail/data? or >> is >> > there any way to keep apache from writing files to these directories >> and >> > executing them? thanks for any help > > when I turn on safe_mode in php.ini, I get the following error during SM > login attempt > > Error opening ../data/default_pref > Default preference file not found or not readable! > Please contact your system administrator and report this error. > You must understand the way safe mode works. If file is not owned by same user, that owns script used to access file, safe mode denies access to file. http://www.php.net/features.safe-mode http://www.squirrelmail.org/wiki/en_US/SafeMode -- Tomas --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Looking for advice on best IMAP implementation for speed
Morten Nilsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Peter Campion-Bye wrote: >>> >>> I'm using courier under trustix, and SM is horribly slow when reading >>> mail in a folder with 14k items (not counting subfolders) >> >> Do you have 'Allow server-side sorting = true' (General options - item 12)? >> My largest folder currently has 4100 items, and loads in under a second. > > no, it was off .. didn't know about it, that really helped usability a > lot, thanks :) Also, if your server supports threading, enable that in sm, too. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Looking for advice on best IMAP implementation for speed
Chris Shenton wrote: > Morten Nilsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Peter Campion-Bye wrote: I'm using courier under trustix, and SM is horribly slow when reading mail in a folder with 14k items (not counting subfolders) >>> >>> Do you have 'Allow server-side sorting = true' (General options - item 12)? >>> My largest folder currently has 4100 items, and loads in under a second. >> >> no, it was off .. didn't know about it, that really helped usability a >> lot, thanks :) > > Also, if your server supports threading, enable that in sm, too. already done that, the options were listed right next to eachother in config.php -- Morten --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Trying to set up my SquirrelMail in Outlook Express
Tim, I'm not sure why you signed your e-mail Christie but in any case, you do not need SquirrelMail at all to use MSN. You need to ask MSN for information on how to setup Outlook Express to use their e-mail service. Get them to talk you through it step-by-step if you have to. You mentioned that you purchased a domain from SavingHosting. What, if I may ask, are you planning on using your domain for? Also, what is the domain? Tim Cook wrote: [cut] I have tried every combination I could possibly think of. I do not know what IMAP I have what addies to use or even where to find them. I have searched all over the OE page, Squirrelmail page as well as the SavingsHosting website that I purchase my domain from and could find nothing to help me. I have chatted with MSN, emailed several, etc... I've been told by MSN to use HTTP (not POP3 or IMAP), told by SAVINGSHOSTING that all I had to do was do the autoconfig, which did not set everything up. Please guide me! I need to know EXACTLY what to type into those textfields. Or atleast where I can find that info. Please don't say "Put your so-and-so address here" when I do not know what the so-and-so address is. On the verge of going insane Christie BTW.. Just to see if it worked... I did hook up my hotmail acct in Outlook Express and it works perfectly. I used the HTTP option for it though. But it does work! So I know that my problem with my other is not --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
[SM-USERS] Problems and questions
I have version 1.2.11, This morning I could not get the login page to appear. After downloading your new patch it did appear. Have no idea how the two might be related. Should I be using the latest version? I am on an iMac G5, OSX. I have also recently -- in the last month -- begun to receive tons of spam on this account. Do you have a filter system? I A yes to any of the above will mean I might need pointing in the right direction where to find and how to do. Thanks, [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] Loign Error when sending message
> > On Thu, December 2, 2004 5:22 pm, Kevin Carpenter said: >> All - >> >> I'm having an annoying problem - fairly frequently after composing a >> message, I hit "Send" and am greeted with "Error - you must be logged in >> to access this page. Go to the login page". The message is >> lost. I've sensed one situation that feels like its time oriented - if >> I >> take more than an hour to compose a message, this seems to happen >> frequently. If I use FireFox, I can force it simply by opening another >> FireFox session to the login screen and returning to the first screen. >> (I >> have a lot of problems using FireFox and Squirrelmail when having two >> sessions open - like it forgets what account its logged into.) Anyhow, >> the long message issue is the most annoying, since it generally occurs >> after spending an hour writing a long letter. >> >> I'm running SquirrelMail 1.4.3.a on a Gentoo Linux that is fully up to >> date. >> >> imap = uw_imap 2002e-r4 >> php & mod_php = 4.3.9 >> apache = 2.0.52-r1 >> gentoo linux, with 2.4.26-gentoo-r9 kernel >> Squirrelmail = 1.4.3.a-r2, installed via emerge >> no plugins (yet!) >> >> Any and all (polite) suggestions welcome! >> >> Kevin C. you could try refreshing the folder list from time to time or even better have it do so automaticly every now and then (options/folder prefs) .. . > http://www.squirrelmail.org/wiki/en_US/AutoLogout if you do have the autologout option it refreshes the whole page and tell's you that you've been autlogged out after x minutes etc etc. manu. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
Re: [SM-USERS] sporadic ultra-slow logins
> > On Dec 2, 2004, at 5:54 AM, Tony Earnshaw wrote: > >> tor, 02.12.2004 kl. 03.15 skrev Joe Auty: >> >>> here's my deal.. I'm hoping somebody can help me, I'd be truly >>> appreciative! >>> >>> What is the best way to troubleshoot SM when it takes ultra-long >>> periods of time (sometimes minutes) to login? It seems to happen >>> sporadically, but more often than not these days. >> >> [...] >> >> Smells of DNS problems, to me ... > > Hmmm. my SM config is set with the server set as localhost, so I > thought I had accounted for this possibility. Am I missing something > else? > i have the same kind of trouble, maybe not the same origin though, i have a bi-proc 266Mhz and courrier-imapd, i noticed if the inbox (first folder to be shown) is empty, or at least not fully loaded i log in faster, bassicly big folders take longer to show up probably beceause of imap sorting.. . .i keep my inbox as small as possible and i created myself a folder for keeping the older mails.. .for me there is no workaround besides getting a computer that is less than a decade old.. :] manu. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
[SM-USERS] check spelling
Hi Can someone help me please since we change our provider to exetel.com.au I haven't been able to use the check spelling facility. Hlp please. Cheers, Maria-Elena Chidzey --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
