Re: [R-pkg-devel] [Rd] static html vignette

2024-01-04 Thread Adrian Dușa
(Moved here following Ivan's suggestion)

On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 12:55 PM Ivan Krylov  wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 11:57:15 +0200
> Adrian Dușa  wrote:
>
> > I wonder if it would be possible to include an html static vignette.
>
> I would say that static vignettes are against the spirit of vignettes:
> the idea is to provide another layer of unit testing to the package by
> providing a deeper executable example than is possible with just Rd
> examples. I think that Bioconductor will even refuse a package with a
> vignette with no executable code in it.
>

I understand that perfectly, but for instance my package declared already
has over 800 tests and 100% code coverage. More unit testing in the
vignettes really strikes as unnecessary.

One other reason to use a static vignette, in my case, is that package
Sweave is not available for my version of R (on MacOS, M2 version)



> Still, you can use the R.rsp package to provide static vignettes in
> both PDF and HTML formats:
>
> https://cran.r-project.org/package=R.rsp/vignettes/R_packages-Static_PDF_and_HTML_vignettes.pdf
>
> This will add 6 packages to your total Suggests budget:
>
> setdiff(
>  unlist(package_dependencies('R.rsp', recursive=TRUE)),
>  unlist(standard_package_names())
> )
> # [1] "R.methodsS3" "R.oo""R.utils" "R.cache" "digest"


Yes indeed, I know about R.rsp.
To me at least, zero dependency means that users install that package and
that package alone, the reason for which I am now looking for static
(preferably html) vignettes.

I guess another question is why should the "Suggests" packages need to be
installed by end users. I understand CRAN checks need to make sure the
Vignettes can be processed and the code inside runs fine (just like the
examples in the Rd files) but it is very unlikely that end-users will want
to compile the vignettes themselves.

>From my own experience of almost 20 years of using R, I never-ever build
the vignettes of a certain package because it is much simpler to read them
on CRAN. I wonder, then, why are end users forced to install
Vignette-building "Suggests" packages (with long dependency chains) when
they practically never do that.

Life would be much simpler if the Suggests packages would not be
(automatically) installed, or if CRAN provided a way to include static
Vignettes to avoid the heavy dependencies of building them.

Best regards,
Adrian

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Re: [R-pkg-devel] [Rd] static html vignette

2024-01-04 Thread Adrian Dușa
On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 10:44 PM Uwe Ligges 
wrote:

> On 04.01.2024 21:23, Duncan Murdoch wrote:[...]
> > Users aren't forced to install "Suggests" packages.  That's a choice
> > they make.  The default for `install.packages()` is `dependencies = NA`,
> > which says to install hard dependencies (Imports, Depends, LinkingTo).
> > Users have to choose a non-default setting to include Suggests.
>
> Also note that the maintainer builds the vignette whe calling
> R CMD build
> CRAN checks whether the vignette can be build.
> If a user installs a package, the already produced vignette (on the
> maintainers machine by R CMD build) is instaled. There is no need for
> the user to install any extra package for being able to look at the
> vignettes.
>

I see... then I must have tested with dependencies = TRUE thinking this
refers to hard dependencies (one more reason to read the documentation
properly).

Thank you,
Adrian

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