Re: [R-pkg-devel] preventing auto-update of R and c2d4u r-cran-* packages on Ubuntu 22.04

2023-08-10 Thread Neal Fultz
In the past, I've extracted the pre-built debian packages into the user's
personal folder, instead of installing them via apt. It worked (but it was
not fun), and was pretty manual.  That might interact a bit better with
some of the third party tools for dealing with dependencies in shiny apps,
compared to system-wide installs; ymmv.

On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 8:00 AM Thomas Petzoldt <
thomas.petzo...@tu-dresden.de> wrote:

> Hi Dirk,
>
> thank you very much dirk for the quick response. I was aware that
> r-package-devel may not be the optimal place ;-) but hoped to address
> the right audience between r-devel and r-help.
>
> Many thanks also for the suggestions, especially r2u and sorry for
> confusing the name of Michael.
>
> Thomas
>
> Am 09.08.2023 um 16:41 schrieb Dirk Eddelbuettel:
> > On 9 August 2023 at 16:26, Thomas Petzoldt wrote:
> > | I am running a couple of  shiny servers with several apps that are
> based
> > | around own CRAN packages. It worked stable for years, but due to the
> > | growing number of packages, the compile time for regular manual package
> > | installation and updates became inconvenient.
> > |
> > | Therefore, I have been very happy to use pre-compiled packages from the
> > | c2d4u repository: deb
> > | https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/c2d4u.team/c2d4u4.0+/ubuntu/ jammy
> main
> >
> > These days you also have r2u which has all of CRAN ie 20k binaries
> (each, for
> > two Ubuntu flavors). See  https://eddelbuettel.github.io/r2u
> >
> > | This is indeed a great service, thanks to Dirk Edelbuettel, mark Rutter
> >
> > That would be Michael Rutter.
> >
> > | and the complete team! The downside is, that now the r-cran-* binaries
> > | are installed automatically, together with the system update. I
> > | experienced now repeated cases that crashed some of the shiny apps,
> > | mainly due to conflicts between the binary packages and other packages
> > | installed from sources.
> >
> > If you use r2u (as I do on a laptop, an ec2 server, all my CI testing for
> > work and testing for months now) you get all packages and do not need to
> > mix.  Try r2u, it's good.
> >
> > | My question: what is best practise, to disallow automatic updates for
> > | all r-cran-* packages? Uncommenting the complete package source in the
> > | apt/sources.list.d/cd4u...list file? Fiddling around with
> > | /etc/apt/preferences ?
> > |
> > | The ideal approach would be to put a plain textfile of all installed
> > | r-cran packages somewhere to the system, where packages that are to be
> > | upgraded (or oppositely: pinned) are just commented or outcommented.
> >
> > That is very Debian / Ubuntu specific question.  Can I ask you to bring
> it to
> > the dedicated list r-sig-debian ?
> >
> >  From the top of my head I can think of setting package status 'hold' (a
> > simpler per-package approach) or setting specific apt pinning values to
> not
> > alter packages from specific repos, see the manual pages.
> >
> > But please ask on r-sig-debian. This list is for generic R packaging
> questions.
> >
> > Thanks, Dirk
>
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Re: [R-pkg-devel] macOS results not mirrored/updated at CRAN

2023-08-10 Thread Simon Urbanek
Dirk,

thanks - one of those annoying cases where a script works in the login shell, 
but not in the cron job -- hopefully fixed.

Cheers,
Simon


> On 9/08/2023, at 12:45 AM, Dirk Eddelbuettel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Simon,
> 
> This is still an issue for arm64.  Uploaded tiledb and RQuantLib yesterday,
> both already built binaries for macOS (thank you!) but on the x86_64 ones are
> on the results page.  Can you take another peek at this?
> 
> Thanks so much,  Dirk
> 
> -- 
> dirk.eddelbuettel.com | @eddelbuettel | e...@debian.org
> 

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Re: [R-pkg-devel] preventing auto-update of R and c2d4u r-cran-* packages on Ubuntu 22.04

2023-08-10 Thread Thomas Petzoldt



On 10.08.2023 at 17:56 Neal Fultz wrote:
In the past, I've extracted the pre-built debian packages into the 
user's personal folder, instead of installing them via apt. It worked 
(but it was not fun), and was pretty manual.  That might interact a bit 
better with some of the third party tools for dealing with dependencies 
in shiny apps, compared to system-wide installs; ymmv.


Thank you for the suggestion. My implemented approach works indeed 
similar to this.


After moving this discussion to R-SIG-Debian 
(https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-sig-debian/2023-August/thread.html), 
Dirk Eddelbuettel suggested five different approaches.


I made indeed a snapshot (a local copy) of the complete "site-library" 
folder to another place of the file system (e.g. 
"site-library-snapshot"). In the .Renviron file of the shiny user, the 
environment variable R_LIBS_USER then points to this location. The base 
packages from "library" are conservative, so I decided to use them from 
the original position.


Finally, an rmarkdown script provided by the shiny-server can report the 
value of .libPaths() and versions and locations of installed packages:


installed.packages()[,2:3]

This works well, except for a package that contained relative symbolic 
links to the file system.


Thomas


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