Re: [Rd] Plotmath on Fedora 31 broken with with pango >= 1.44 - workarounds?

2020-05-25 Thread Kenny Bell
Hi all,

I have found after upgrading to R 4.0.0 (among other upgrades so this may
not be the cause) that the degree symbol doesn't work correctly on Ubuntu
18.04. Googling brought me to this thread that appears related.

I tried running:
cairo_pdf()
plot.new(); text(0.5,0.5, bquote(120*degree*N), cex=5)
dev.off()

and the ubuntu plot has the degree symbol vertically in the center of the
line. The Windows one correctly shows as superscript.

Anyone else see this behaviour?

Cheers,
Kenny

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 3:36 AM Nicolas Mailhot via R-devel <
r-devel@r-project.org> wrote:

> Le mercredi 08 avril 2020 à 02:55 -0700, Gabriel Becker a écrit :
> > Hi Paul,
>
> Hi Gabriel,
>
> Thanks a lot for the testing.
>
> > The various font family settings seem to work too, from what I can
> > tell. Both font families you suggested, however, Helvetica and Apple
> > Symbols (the s is important) have significantly incomplete coverage
> > with PUA on.
>
> That is to be expected, the AMS symbol dump in PUA space was a quick
> hack to make pre-unicode symbols available in an unicode world, pending
> their normalisation.
>
> That standardisation is long past (IIRC it occured by unicode 3.2
> released in March 2002), so no newly created/updated font family is
> going to place those symbols in PUA anymore.
>
> Now adding the AMS symbols to new fonts has been slow, due to the large
> amount of software hardcoding Symbol (and equivallent) and masking the
> actual glyph userbase to font makers. It will accelerate with more apps
> expecting plain unicode by default.
>
> Thanks for the testing!
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Nicolas Mailhot
>
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Re: [Rd] [FORGED] Re: Plotmath on Fedora 31 broken with with pango >= 1.44 - workarounds?

2020-05-25 Thread Paul Murrell



I am not seeing that problem on my 18.04 ...

> sessionInfo()
R version 4.0.0 Patched (2020-05-12 r78431)
Platform: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu (64-bit)
Running under: Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS

Matrix products: default
BLAS:   /home/pmur002/R/R-4-0-branch/BUILD/lib/libRblas.so
LAPACK: /home/pmur002/R/R-4-0-branch/BUILD/lib/libRlapack.so

locale:
 [1] LC_CTYPE=en_NZ.UTF-8   LC_NUMERIC=C
 [3] LC_TIME=en_NZ.UTF-8LC_COLLATE=en_NZ.UTF-8
 [5] LC_MONETARY=en_NZ.UTF-8LC_MESSAGES=en_NZ.UTF-8
 [7] LC_PAPER=en_NZ.UTF-8   LC_NAME=C
 [9] LC_ADDRESS=C   LC_TELEPHONE=C
[11] LC_MEASUREMENT=en_NZ.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=C

attached base packages:
[1] stats graphics  grDevices utils datasets  methods   base

loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
[1] compiler_4.0.0

Paul

On 26/05/20 2:21 pm, Kenny Bell wrote:

Hi all,

I have found after upgrading to R 4.0.0 (among other upgrades so this may
not be the cause) that the degree symbol doesn't work correctly on Ubuntu
18.04. Googling brought me to this thread that appears related.

I tried running:
cairo_pdf()
plot.new(); text(0.5,0.5, bquote(120*degree*N), cex=5)
dev.off()

and the ubuntu plot has the degree symbol vertically in the center of the
line. The Windows one correctly shows as superscript.

Anyone else see this behaviour?

Cheers,
Kenny

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 3:36 AM Nicolas Mailhot via R-devel <
r-devel@r-project.org> wrote:


Le mercredi 08 avril 2020 à 02:55 -0700, Gabriel Becker a écrit :

Hi Paul,


Hi Gabriel,

Thanks a lot for the testing.


The various font family settings seem to work too, from what I can
tell. Both font families you suggested, however, Helvetica and Apple
Symbols (the s is important) have significantly incomplete coverage
with PUA on.


That is to be expected, the AMS symbol dump in PUA space was a quick
hack to make pre-unicode symbols available in an unicode world, pending
their normalisation.

That standardisation is long past (IIRC it occured by unicode 3.2
released in March 2002), so no newly created/updated font family is
going to place those symbols in PUA anymore.

Now adding the AMS symbols to new fonts has been slow, due to the large
amount of software hardcoding Symbol (and equivallent) and masking the
actual glyph userbase to font makers. It will accelerate with more apps
expecting plain unicode by default.

Thanks for the testing!

Regards,

--
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Re: [Rd] [FORGED] Re: Plotmath on Fedora 31 broken with with pango >= 1.44 - workarounds?

2020-05-25 Thread Kenny Bell
Hi Paul,

I tried downgrading to R 3.4.4 and I still see the problem. I also have a
conda environment that doesn't exhibit the problem so it's something
environmental.

Any tips for possible solutions/troubleshooting would be appreciated!

Cheers,
Kenny

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 3:09 PM Paul Murrell 
wrote:

>
> I am not seeing that problem on my 18.04 ...
>
>  > sessionInfo()
> R version 4.0.0 Patched (2020-05-12 r78431)
> Platform: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu (64-bit)
> Running under: Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS
>
> Matrix products: default
> BLAS:   /home/pmur002/R/R-4-0-branch/BUILD/lib/libRblas.so
> LAPACK: /home/pmur002/R/R-4-0-branch/BUILD/lib/libRlapack.so
>
> locale:
>   [1] LC_CTYPE=en_NZ.UTF-8   LC_NUMERIC=C
>   [3] LC_TIME=en_NZ.UTF-8LC_COLLATE=en_NZ.UTF-8
>   [5] LC_MONETARY=en_NZ.UTF-8LC_MESSAGES=en_NZ.UTF-8
>   [7] LC_PAPER=en_NZ.UTF-8   LC_NAME=C
>   [9] LC_ADDRESS=C   LC_TELEPHONE=C
> [11] LC_MEASUREMENT=en_NZ.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=C
>
> attached base packages:
> [1] stats graphics  grDevices utils datasets  methods   base
>
> loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
> [1] compiler_4.0.0
>
> Paul
>
> On 26/05/20 2:21 pm, Kenny Bell wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have found after upgrading to R 4.0.0 (among other upgrades so this may
> > not be the cause) that the degree symbol doesn't work correctly on Ubuntu
> > 18.04. Googling brought me to this thread that appears related.
> >
> > I tried running:
> > cairo_pdf()
> > plot.new(); text(0.5,0.5, bquote(120*degree*N), cex=5)
> > dev.off()
> >
> > and the ubuntu plot has the degree symbol vertically in the center of the
> > line. The Windows one correctly shows as superscript.
> >
> > Anyone else see this behaviour?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kenny
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 3:36 AM Nicolas Mailhot via R-devel <
> > r-devel@r-project.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Le mercredi 08 avril 2020 à 02:55 -0700, Gabriel Becker a écrit :
> >>> Hi Paul,
> >>
> >> Hi Gabriel,
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot for the testing.
> >>
> >>> The various font family settings seem to work too, from what I can
> >>> tell. Both font families you suggested, however, Helvetica and Apple
> >>> Symbols (the s is important) have significantly incomplete coverage
> >>> with PUA on.
> >>
> >> That is to be expected, the AMS symbol dump in PUA space was a quick
> >> hack to make pre-unicode symbols available in an unicode world, pending
> >> their normalisation.
> >>
> >> That standardisation is long past (IIRC it occured by unicode 3.2
> >> released in March 2002), so no newly created/updated font family is
> >> going to place those symbols in PUA anymore.
> >>
> >> Now adding the AMS symbols to new fonts has been slow, due to the large
> >> amount of software hardcoding Symbol (and equivallent) and masking the
> >> actual glyph userbase to font makers. It will accelerate with more apps
> >> expecting plain unicode by default.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the testing!
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> --
> >> Nicolas Mailhot
> >>
> >> __
> >> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list
> >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
> >>
> >>
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> >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
>
> --
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> Department of Statistics
> The University of Auckland
> Private Bag 92019
> Auckland
> New Zealand
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Re: [Rd] [FORGED] Re: Plotmath on Fedora 31 broken with with pango >= 1.44 - workarounds?

2020-05-25 Thread Kenny Bell
I was actually able to reproduce this on a relatively fresh install of
18.04 (a virtualbox). Paul, did you run apt update && apt upgrade before
trying to reproduce?

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 4:36 PM Kenny Bell  wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> I tried downgrading to R 3.4.4 and I still see the problem. I also have a
> conda environment that doesn't exhibit the problem so it's something
> environmental.
>
> Any tips for possible solutions/troubleshooting would be appreciated!
>
> Cheers,
> Kenny
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 3:09 PM Paul Murrell 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I am not seeing that problem on my 18.04 ...
>>
>>  > sessionInfo()
>> R version 4.0.0 Patched (2020-05-12 r78431)
>> Platform: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu (64-bit)
>> Running under: Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS
>>
>> Matrix products: default
>> BLAS:   /home/pmur002/R/R-4-0-branch/BUILD/lib/libRblas.so
>> LAPACK: /home/pmur002/R/R-4-0-branch/BUILD/lib/libRlapack.so
>>
>> locale:
>>   [1] LC_CTYPE=en_NZ.UTF-8   LC_NUMERIC=C
>>   [3] LC_TIME=en_NZ.UTF-8LC_COLLATE=en_NZ.UTF-8
>>   [5] LC_MONETARY=en_NZ.UTF-8LC_MESSAGES=en_NZ.UTF-8
>>   [7] LC_PAPER=en_NZ.UTF-8   LC_NAME=C
>>   [9] LC_ADDRESS=C   LC_TELEPHONE=C
>> [11] LC_MEASUREMENT=en_NZ.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=C
>>
>> attached base packages:
>> [1] stats graphics  grDevices utils datasets  methods   base
>>
>> loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
>> [1] compiler_4.0.0
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 26/05/20 2:21 pm, Kenny Bell wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I have found after upgrading to R 4.0.0 (among other upgrades so this
>> may
>> > not be the cause) that the degree symbol doesn't work correctly on
>> Ubuntu
>> > 18.04. Googling brought me to this thread that appears related.
>> >
>> > I tried running:
>> > cairo_pdf()
>> > plot.new(); text(0.5,0.5, bquote(120*degree*N), cex=5)
>> > dev.off()
>> >
>> > and the ubuntu plot has the degree symbol vertically in the center of
>> the
>> > line. The Windows one correctly shows as superscript.
>> >
>> > Anyone else see this behaviour?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Kenny
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 3:36 AM Nicolas Mailhot via R-devel <
>> > r-devel@r-project.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Le mercredi 08 avril 2020 à 02:55 -0700, Gabriel Becker a écrit :
>> >>> Hi Paul,
>> >>
>> >> Hi Gabriel,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks a lot for the testing.
>> >>
>> >>> The various font family settings seem to work too, from what I can
>> >>> tell. Both font families you suggested, however, Helvetica and Apple
>> >>> Symbols (the s is important) have significantly incomplete coverage
>> >>> with PUA on.
>> >>
>> >> That is to be expected, the AMS symbol dump in PUA space was a quick
>> >> hack to make pre-unicode symbols available in an unicode world, pending
>> >> their normalisation.
>> >>
>> >> That standardisation is long past (IIRC it occured by unicode 3.2
>> >> released in March 2002), so no newly created/updated font family is
>> >> going to place those symbols in PUA anymore.
>> >>
>> >> Now adding the AMS symbols to new fonts has been slow, due to the large
>> >> amount of software hardcoding Symbol (and equivallent) and masking the
>> >> actual glyph userbase to font makers. It will accelerate with more apps
>> >> expecting plain unicode by default.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for the testing!
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Nicolas Mailhot
>> >>
>> >> __
>> >> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list
>> >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> __
>> >> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list
>> >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
>>
>> --
>> Dr Paul Murrell
>> Department of Statistics
>> The University of Auckland
>> Private Bag 92019
>> Auckland
>> New Zealand
>> 64 9 3737599 x85392
>> p...@stat.auckland.ac.nz
>> http://www.stat.auckland.ac.nz/~paul/
>>
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Re: [Rd] [FORGED] Re: Plotmath on Fedora 31 broken with with pango >= 1.44 - workarounds?

2020-05-25 Thread Kenny Bell
I can also confirm that the latest  https://hub.docker.com/_/r-base has the
correct behaviour.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 5:05 PM Kenny Bell  wrote:

> I was actually able to reproduce this on a relatively fresh install of
> 18.04 (a virtualbox). Paul, did you run apt update && apt upgrade before
> trying to reproduce?
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 4:36 PM Kenny Bell  wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> I tried downgrading to R 3.4.4 and I still see the problem. I also have a
>> conda environment that doesn't exhibit the problem so it's something
>> environmental.
>>
>> Any tips for possible solutions/troubleshooting would be appreciated!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kenny
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 3:09 PM Paul Murrell 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I am not seeing that problem on my 18.04 ...
>>>
>>>  > sessionInfo()
>>> R version 4.0.0 Patched (2020-05-12 r78431)
>>> Platform: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu (64-bit)
>>> Running under: Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS
>>>
>>> Matrix products: default
>>> BLAS:   /home/pmur002/R/R-4-0-branch/BUILD/lib/libRblas.so
>>> LAPACK: /home/pmur002/R/R-4-0-branch/BUILD/lib/libRlapack.so
>>>
>>> locale:
>>>   [1] LC_CTYPE=en_NZ.UTF-8   LC_NUMERIC=C
>>>   [3] LC_TIME=en_NZ.UTF-8LC_COLLATE=en_NZ.UTF-8
>>>   [5] LC_MONETARY=en_NZ.UTF-8LC_MESSAGES=en_NZ.UTF-8
>>>   [7] LC_PAPER=en_NZ.UTF-8   LC_NAME=C
>>>   [9] LC_ADDRESS=C   LC_TELEPHONE=C
>>> [11] LC_MEASUREMENT=en_NZ.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=C
>>>
>>> attached base packages:
>>> [1] stats graphics  grDevices utils datasets  methods   base
>>>
>>> loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
>>> [1] compiler_4.0.0
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On 26/05/20 2:21 pm, Kenny Bell wrote:
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > I have found after upgrading to R 4.0.0 (among other upgrades so this
>>> may
>>> > not be the cause) that the degree symbol doesn't work correctly on
>>> Ubuntu
>>> > 18.04. Googling brought me to this thread that appears related.
>>> >
>>> > I tried running:
>>> > cairo_pdf()
>>> > plot.new(); text(0.5,0.5, bquote(120*degree*N), cex=5)
>>> > dev.off()
>>> >
>>> > and the ubuntu plot has the degree symbol vertically in the center of
>>> the
>>> > line. The Windows one correctly shows as superscript.
>>> >
>>> > Anyone else see this behaviour?
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Kenny
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 3:36 AM Nicolas Mailhot via R-devel <
>>> > r-devel@r-project.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Le mercredi 08 avril 2020 à 02:55 -0700, Gabriel Becker a écrit :
>>> >>> Hi Paul,
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Gabriel,
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks a lot for the testing.
>>> >>
>>> >>> The various font family settings seem to work too, from what I can
>>> >>> tell. Both font families you suggested, however, Helvetica and Apple
>>> >>> Symbols (the s is important) have significantly incomplete coverage
>>> >>> with PUA on.
>>> >>
>>> >> That is to be expected, the AMS symbol dump in PUA space was a quick
>>> >> hack to make pre-unicode symbols available in an unicode world,
>>> pending
>>> >> their normalisation.
>>> >>
>>> >> That standardisation is long past (IIRC it occured by unicode 3.2
>>> >> released in March 2002), so no newly created/updated font family is
>>> >> going to place those symbols in PUA anymore.
>>> >>
>>> >> Now adding the AMS symbols to new fonts has been slow, due to the
>>> large
>>> >> amount of software hardcoding Symbol (and equivallent) and masking the
>>> >> actual glyph userbase to font makers. It will accelerate with more
>>> apps
>>> >> expecting plain unicode by default.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for the testing!
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Nicolas Mailhot
>>> >>
>>> >> __
>>> >> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list
>>> >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> __
>>> >> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list
>>> >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr Paul Murrell
>>> Department of Statistics
>>> The University of Auckland
>>> Private Bag 92019
>>> Auckland
>>> New Zealand
>>> 64 9 3737599 x85392
>>> p...@stat.auckland.ac.nz
>>> http://www.stat.auckland.ac.nz/~paul/
>>>
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Re: [Rd] [FORGED] Re: Plotmath on Fedora 31 broken with with pango >= 1.44 - workarounds?

2020-05-25 Thread Kenny Bell
I also tried just upgrading to 20.04 and that seemed to fix it.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 5:38 PM Kenny Bell  wrote:

> I can also confirm that the latest  https://hub.docker.com/_/r-base has
> the correct behaviour.
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 5:05 PM Kenny Bell  wrote:
>
>> I was actually able to reproduce this on a relatively fresh install of
>> 18.04 (a virtualbox). Paul, did you run apt update && apt upgrade before
>> trying to reproduce?
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 4:36 PM Kenny Bell  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> I tried downgrading to R 3.4.4 and I still see the problem. I also have
>>> a conda environment that doesn't exhibit the problem so it's something
>>> environmental.
>>>
>>> Any tips for possible solutions/troubleshooting would be appreciated!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kenny
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 3:09 PM Paul Murrell 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 I am not seeing that problem on my 18.04 ...

  > sessionInfo()
 R version 4.0.0 Patched (2020-05-12 r78431)
 Platform: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu (64-bit)
 Running under: Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS

 Matrix products: default
 BLAS:   /home/pmur002/R/R-4-0-branch/BUILD/lib/libRblas.so
 LAPACK: /home/pmur002/R/R-4-0-branch/BUILD/lib/libRlapack.so

 locale:
   [1] LC_CTYPE=en_NZ.UTF-8   LC_NUMERIC=C
   [3] LC_TIME=en_NZ.UTF-8LC_COLLATE=en_NZ.UTF-8
   [5] LC_MONETARY=en_NZ.UTF-8LC_MESSAGES=en_NZ.UTF-8
   [7] LC_PAPER=en_NZ.UTF-8   LC_NAME=C
   [9] LC_ADDRESS=C   LC_TELEPHONE=C
 [11] LC_MEASUREMENT=en_NZ.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=C

 attached base packages:
 [1] stats graphics  grDevices utils datasets  methods   base

 loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
 [1] compiler_4.0.0

 Paul

 On 26/05/20 2:21 pm, Kenny Bell wrote:
 > Hi all,
 >
 > I have found after upgrading to R 4.0.0 (among other upgrades so this
 may
 > not be the cause) that the degree symbol doesn't work correctly on
 Ubuntu
 > 18.04. Googling brought me to this thread that appears related.
 >
 > I tried running:
 > cairo_pdf()
 > plot.new(); text(0.5,0.5, bquote(120*degree*N), cex=5)
 > dev.off()
 >
 > and the ubuntu plot has the degree symbol vertically in the center of
 the
 > line. The Windows one correctly shows as superscript.
 >
 > Anyone else see this behaviour?
 >
 > Cheers,
 > Kenny
 >
 > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 3:36 AM Nicolas Mailhot via R-devel <
 > r-devel@r-project.org> wrote:
 >
 >> Le mercredi 08 avril 2020 à 02:55 -0700, Gabriel Becker a écrit :
 >>> Hi Paul,
 >>
 >> Hi Gabriel,
 >>
 >> Thanks a lot for the testing.
 >>
 >>> The various font family settings seem to work too, from what I can
 >>> tell. Both font families you suggested, however, Helvetica and Apple
 >>> Symbols (the s is important) have significantly incomplete coverage
 >>> with PUA on.
 >>
 >> That is to be expected, the AMS symbol dump in PUA space was a quick
 >> hack to make pre-unicode symbols available in an unicode world,
 pending
 >> their normalisation.
 >>
 >> That standardisation is long past (IIRC it occured by unicode 3.2
 >> released in March 2002), so no newly created/updated font family is
 >> going to place those symbols in PUA anymore.
 >>
 >> Now adding the AMS symbols to new fonts has been slow, due to the
 large
 >> amount of software hardcoding Symbol (and equivallent) and masking
 the
 >> actual glyph userbase to font makers. It will accelerate with more
 apps
 >> expecting plain unicode by default.
 >>
 >> Thanks for the testing!
 >>
 >> Regards,
 >>
 >> --
 >> Nicolas Mailhot
 >>
 >> __
 >> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list
 >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
 >>
 >>
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 --
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 Department of Statistics
 The University of Auckland
 Private Bag 92019
 Auckland
 New Zealand
 64 9 3737599 x85392
 p...@stat.auckland.ac.nz
 http://www.stat.auckland.ac.nz/~paul/

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