Re: [Rd] Why my messages are filtered from the list?

2015-05-29 Thread Simon Urbanek

On May 29, 2015, at 1:05 AM, Ivan Popivanov  wrote:

> Now I am getting confused. I see two postings from me in the archives:
> 
> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-devel/2015-May/071205.html
> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-devel/2015-April/070982.html
> 
> Were these actually published to the list?


Yes, I remember seeing those, because it did spark my interest. I'm swamped 
with other stuff, but the topic is on my (long) stack to look at.

Cheers,
Simon


> If so - big apology.
> 
> Regards,
> Ivan
> 
> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:43 AM David Winsemius 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 28, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Ivan Popivanov wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Over the last two months I have sent two messages (same topic) to the
>> list.
>>> None of them showed on the list. For the first, I got a message that it
>> is
>>> in some queue and waiting for an administrator to look at it. Is the
>> queue
>>> THAT long?!
>> 
>> The moderators don't know all the spam rules but we are fairly sure that
>> the Spam filter increases the probability of diverting to the queue
>> especially for Nabble postings , but we suspect also for certain high-risk
>> domains, and using HTML mail.
>> 
>> The queue's are fairly short and if your posting doesn't get to the list
>> within 12 hours you can be reasonably sure it was intercepted and will
>> never appear. Some postings from Nabble do not even reach teh moderator
>> queue. If it had a blank Subject or a Subject that was all question marks
>> the moderator might have simply discarded it without even looking at it. I
>> do not see any posting from your address in the Archives for May or April.
>> 
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>> Alameda, CA, USA
>> 
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Re: [Rd] NEWS.md support on CRAN

2015-05-29 Thread Imanuel Costigan
So I assume this commit means NEWS.md is now no longer on blacklist? 

https://github.com/wch/r-source/commit/9ffe87264a1cd59a31a829f72d57af0f1bfa327a

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On 23 May 2015, at 6:05 pm, Kurt Hornik  wrote:

>> Duncan Murdoch writes:
> 
>>> On 22/05/2015 8:49 PM, Imanuel Costigan wrote:
>>> Are there any plans for CRAN to support NEWS files in markdown? Bit of a 
>>> hassle to go the the package’s Github (or other like) site to read NEWS.
> 
>> Not as far as I know.  There have been discussions about increasing the
>> support of Markdown, but so far the conclusion has been that it's too
>> hard to do -- the support is not stable enough on all the platforms
>> where R runs.
> 
> There are actually two issues here.
> 
> For CRAN, we could in principle take inst/NEWS.md files, convert these
> to HTML using pandoc, and use the HTML for the package web page.  (Would
> need the CRAN incoming checks to be taught about inst/NEWS.md.)
> 
> However, we cannot use such files for utils::news() because we do not
> (yet?) know how to reliably parse such files and extract the news items
> (and hence cannot really compute on the news information).
> 
> Btw, currently only one package on CRAN has inst/NEWS.md (another one
> has NEWS.md at top level).
> 
> Best
> -k
> 
>> Markdown is allowed for vignettes (because the package author processes
>> those), so I'd suggest putting your news into a vignette instead of a
>> news file.  Put in a token news file that points to the vignette so
>> users can find it.
> 
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Re: [Rd] NEWS.md support on CRAN

2015-05-29 Thread peter dalgaard


> On 30 May 2015, at 01:20 , Imanuel Costigan  wrote:
> 
> So I assume this commit means NEWS.md is now no longer on blacklist? 
> 

in the development version. Not true of released versions.

-pd


> https://github.com/wch/r-source/commit/9ffe87264a1cd59a31a829f72d57af0f1bfa327a
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 23 May 2015, at 6:05 pm, Kurt Hornik  wrote:
> 
>>> Duncan Murdoch writes:
>> 
 On 22/05/2015 8:49 PM, Imanuel Costigan wrote:
 Are there any plans for CRAN to support NEWS files in markdown? Bit of a 
 hassle to go the the package’s Github (or other like) site to read NEWS.
>> 
>>> Not as far as I know.  There have been discussions about increasing the
>>> support of Markdown, but so far the conclusion has been that it's too
>>> hard to do -- the support is not stable enough on all the platforms
>>> where R runs.
>> 
>> There are actually two issues here.
>> 
>> For CRAN, we could in principle take inst/NEWS.md files, convert these
>> to HTML using pandoc, and use the HTML for the package web page.  (Would
>> need the CRAN incoming checks to be taught about inst/NEWS.md.)
>> 
>> However, we cannot use such files for utils::news() because we do not
>> (yet?) know how to reliably parse such files and extract the news items
>> (and hence cannot really compute on the news information).
>> 
>> Btw, currently only one package on CRAN has inst/NEWS.md (another one
>> has NEWS.md at top level).
>> 
>> Best
>> -k
>> 
>>> Markdown is allowed for vignettes (because the package author processes
>>> those), so I'd suggest putting your news into a vignette instead of a
>>> news file.  Put in a token news file that points to the vignette so
>>> users can find it.
>> 
>>> Duncan Murdoch
>> 
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