[Rd] Using Rtools with gcc 4.8.3

2014-10-05 Thread Jeroen Ooms
I started working on some R bindings for mongo-c-driver [1]. The C
library compiles fine on Ubuntu Trusty (gcc 4.8.2) and osx (clang),
however on my windows machine (gcc 4.6.3 from Rtools 3.1) it fails
with:  'INIT_ONCE_STATIC_INIT' undeclared. Google suggests that this
might be a problem in older versions of mingw-w64. So I grabbed a copy
of mingw-w64 version 4.8.3 and indeed, here the library compiles
without errors.

Now I am unsure how to make mingw 4.8.3 work with Rtools. I extracted
the contents of [2] into "C:\RBuildTools\3.1\gcc-4.8.3\" and my
package Makevars contains

  CC = "c:/RBuildTools/3.1/gcc-4.8.3/bin/gcc"

However it seems like R still uses the old gcc 4.6.3 for R CMD
INSTALL. What am I doing wrong? Is there a recommended setup for
building packages on Windows using a Rtools but with another compiler?

In addition: will I be able to publish this package to CRAN, or do I
have to wait for Rtools to get updated with a more recent gcc?


[1] https://github.com/mongodb/mongo-c-driver
[2] 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw-w64/files/Toolchains%20targetting%20Win32/Personal%20Builds/mingw-builds/4.8.3/threads-posix/dwarf/

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Re: [Rd] Using Rtools with gcc 4.8.3

2014-10-05 Thread Uwe Ligges



On 05.10.2014 12:20, Jeroen Ooms wrote:

I started working on some R bindings for mongo-c-driver [1]. The C
library compiles fine on Ubuntu Trusty (gcc 4.8.2) and osx (clang),
however on my windows machine (gcc 4.6.3 from Rtools 3.1) it fails
with:  'INIT_ONCE_STATIC_INIT' undeclared. Google suggests that this
might be a problem in older versions of mingw-w64. So I grabbed a copy
of mingw-w64 version 4.8.3 and indeed, here the library compiles
without errors.

Now I am unsure how to make mingw 4.8.3 work with Rtools. I extracted
the contents of [2] into "C:\RBuildTools\3.1\gcc-4.8.3\" and my
package Makevars contains

   CC = "c:/RBuildTools/3.1/gcc-4.8.3/bin/gcc"

However it seems like R still uses the old gcc 4.6.3 for R CMD
INSTALL. What am I doing wrong? Is there a recommended setup for
building packages on Windows using a Rtools but with another compiler?

In addition: will I be able to publish this package to CRAN, or do I
have to wait for Rtools to get updated with a more recent gcc?


Currently only 4.6.3 is supported and that is the one used to build 
binary packages on CRAN. Hence you need to wait until it is updated.


Best,
Uwe Ligges



[1] https://github.com/mongodb/mongo-c-driver
[2] 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw-w64/files/Toolchains%20targetting%20Win32/Personal%20Builds/mingw-builds/4.8.3/threads-posix/dwarf/

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Re: [Rd] Using Rtools with gcc 4.8.3

2014-10-05 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Uwe Ligges
 wrote:
>
>
> On 05.10.2014 12:20, Jeroen Ooms wrote:
>>
>> I started working on some R bindings for mongo-c-driver [1]. The C
>> library compiles fine on Ubuntu Trusty (gcc 4.8.2) and osx (clang),
>> however on my windows machine (gcc 4.6.3 from Rtools 3.1) it fails
>> with:  'INIT_ONCE_STATIC_INIT' undeclared. Google suggests that this
>> might be a problem in older versions of mingw-w64. So I grabbed a copy
>> of mingw-w64 version 4.8.3 and indeed, here the library compiles
>> without errors.
>>
>> Now I am unsure how to make mingw 4.8.3 work with Rtools. I extracted
>> the contents of [2] into "C:\RBuildTools\3.1\gcc-4.8.3\" and my
>> package Makevars contains
>>
>>CC = "c:/RBuildTools/3.1/gcc-4.8.3/bin/gcc"
>>
>> However it seems like R still uses the old gcc 4.6.3 for R CMD
>> INSTALL. What am I doing wrong? Is there a recommended setup for
>> building packages on Windows using a Rtools but with another compiler?
>>
>> In addition: will I be able to publish this package to CRAN, or do I
>> have to wait for Rtools to get updated with a more recent gcc?
>
>
> Currently only 4.6.3 is supported and that is the one used to build binary
> packages on CRAN. Hence you need to wait until it is updated.
>
> Best,
> Uwe Ligges
>
>
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/mongodb/mongo-c-driver
>> [2]
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw-w64/files/Toolchains%20targetting%20Win32/Personal%20Builds/mingw-builds/4.8.3/threads-posix/dwarf/
>>

Are there any plans for this?  gcc is already up to 4.9.1 and I am
sure a lot of people would like to see the latest version available as
part of Rtools.


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Re: [Rd] Using Rtools with gcc 4.8.3

2014-10-05 Thread Romain François

Le 5 oct. 2014 à 13:14, Gabor Grothendieck  a écrit :

> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Uwe Ligges
>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 05.10.2014 12:20, Jeroen Ooms wrote:
>>> 
>>> I started working on some R bindings for mongo-c-driver [1]. The C
>>> library compiles fine on Ubuntu Trusty (gcc 4.8.2) and osx (clang),
>>> however on my windows machine (gcc 4.6.3 from Rtools 3.1) it fails
>>> with:  'INIT_ONCE_STATIC_INIT' undeclared. Google suggests that this
>>> might be a problem in older versions of mingw-w64. So I grabbed a copy
>>> of mingw-w64 version 4.8.3 and indeed, here the library compiles
>>> without errors.
>>> 
>>> Now I am unsure how to make mingw 4.8.3 work with Rtools. I extracted
>>> the contents of [2] into "C:\RBuildTools\3.1\gcc-4.8.3\" and my
>>> package Makevars contains
>>> 
>>>   CC = "c:/RBuildTools/3.1/gcc-4.8.3/bin/gcc"
>>> 
>>> However it seems like R still uses the old gcc 4.6.3 for R CMD
>>> INSTALL. What am I doing wrong? Is there a recommended setup for
>>> building packages on Windows using a Rtools but with another compiler?
>>> 
>>> In addition: will I be able to publish this package to CRAN, or do I
>>> have to wait for Rtools to get updated with a more recent gcc?
>> 
>> 
>> Currently only 4.6.3 is supported and that is the one used to build binary
>> packages on CRAN. Hence you need to wait until it is updated.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Uwe Ligges
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> [1] https://github.com/mongodb/mongo-c-driver
>>> [2]
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw-w64/files/Toolchains%20targetting%20Win32/Personal%20Builds/mingw-builds/4.8.3/threads-posix/dwarf/
>>> 
> 
> Are there any plans for this?  gcc is already up to 4.9.1 and I am
> sure a lot of people would like to see the latest version available as
> part of Rtools.

+1. Please. I’d like a newer gcc as part of Rtools too. My reason for it is 
that it would bring actual C++11, rather than unfinished C++0x as gcc 4.6.3 
currently ships. That would allow more adoption of the newer C++ standard for 
packages [*]. 

Furthermore, a current version of gcc will also give a good support for C++14, 
the current C++ standard. 

I said it in the past, I don’t have the skills to make this happen myself but I 
would consider funding someone’s time (within reason) and offer mine for 
testing it. 

Romain

*: currently Rcpp11, the best way to connect R and C++11, has to compromise on 
what C++11 means so that it works on windows. This is bad. The compromise is 
minimal, but still. 

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Re: [Rd] Using Rtools with gcc 4.8.3

2014-10-05 Thread Romain François

Le 5 oct. 2014 à 13:56, Romain François  a écrit :

> 
> Le 5 oct. 2014 à 13:14, Gabor Grothendieck  a écrit :
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Uwe Ligges
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 05.10.2014 12:20, Jeroen Ooms wrote:
 
 I started working on some R bindings for mongo-c-driver [1]. The C
 library compiles fine on Ubuntu Trusty (gcc 4.8.2) and osx (clang),
 however on my windows machine (gcc 4.6.3 from Rtools 3.1) it fails
 with:  'INIT_ONCE_STATIC_INIT' undeclared. Google suggests that this
 might be a problem in older versions of mingw-w64. So I grabbed a copy
 of mingw-w64 version 4.8.3 and indeed, here the library compiles
 without errors.
 
 Now I am unsure how to make mingw 4.8.3 work with Rtools. I extracted
 the contents of [2] into "C:\RBuildTools\3.1\gcc-4.8.3\" and my
 package Makevars contains
 
  CC = "c:/RBuildTools/3.1/gcc-4.8.3/bin/gcc"
 
 However it seems like R still uses the old gcc 4.6.3 for R CMD
 INSTALL. What am I doing wrong? Is there a recommended setup for
 building packages on Windows using a Rtools but with another compiler?
 
 In addition: will I be able to publish this package to CRAN, or do I
 have to wait for Rtools to get updated with a more recent gcc?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Currently only 4.6.3 is supported and that is the one used to build binary
>>> packages on CRAN. Hence you need to wait until it is updated.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Uwe Ligges
>>> 
>>> 
 
 [1] https://github.com/mongodb/mongo-c-driver
 [2]
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw-w64/files/Toolchains%20targetting%20Win32/Personal%20Builds/mingw-builds/4.8.3/threads-posix/dwarf/
 
>> 
>> Are there any plans for this?  gcc is already up to 4.9.1 and I am
>> sure a lot of people would like to see the latest version available as
>> part of Rtools.
> 
> +1. Please. I’d like a newer gcc as part of Rtools too. My reason for it is 
> that it would bring actual C++11, rather than unfinished C++0x as gcc 4.6.3 
> currently ships. That would allow more adoption of the newer C++ standard for 
> packages [*]. 
> 
> Furthermore, a current version of gcc will also give a good support for 
> C++14, the current C++ standard. 
> 
> I said it in the past, I don’t have the skills to make this happen myself but 
> I would consider funding someone’s time (within reason) and offer mine for 
> testing it. 
> 
> Romain
> 
> *: currently Rcpp11, the best way to connect R and C++11, has to compromise 
> on what C++11 means so that it works on windows. This is bad. The compromise 
> is minimal, but still. 

Those missing features in C++0x from 4.6.3 include: 
 - delegate constructors
 - template aliases (a more powerful `using` keyword

We’ve worked around that, but at the expense of some code clarity, safety and 
boilerplateness (esp. the delegate constructor feature). 

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Re: [Rd] Using Rtools with gcc 4.8.3

2014-10-05 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 05/10/2014, 6:20 AM, Jeroen Ooms wrote:
> I started working on some R bindings for mongo-c-driver [1]. The C
> library compiles fine on Ubuntu Trusty (gcc 4.8.2) and osx (clang),
> however on my windows machine (gcc 4.6.3 from Rtools 3.1) it fails
> with:  'INIT_ONCE_STATIC_INIT' undeclared. Google suggests that this
> might be a problem in older versions of mingw-w64. So I grabbed a copy
> of mingw-w64 version 4.8.3 and indeed, here the library compiles
> without errors.
> 
> Now I am unsure how to make mingw 4.8.3 work with Rtools. I extracted
> the contents of [2] into "C:\RBuildTools\3.1\gcc-4.8.3\" and my
> package Makevars contains
> 
>   CC = "c:/RBuildTools/3.1/gcc-4.8.3/bin/gcc"
> 
> However it seems like R still uses the old gcc 4.6.3 for R CMD
> INSTALL. What am I doing wrong? Is there a recommended setup for
> building packages on Windows using a Rtools but with another compiler?

No, but I'd like to update Rtools to use the new compiler.  Have you got
some time to help with that?

Duncan Murdoch

> 
> In addition: will I be able to publish this package to CRAN, or do I
> have to wait for Rtools to get updated with a more recent gcc?
> 
> 
> [1] https://github.com/mongodb/mongo-c-driver
> [2] 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw-w64/files/Toolchains%20targetting%20Win32/Personal%20Builds/mingw-builds/4.8.3/threads-posix/dwarf/

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Re: [Rd] Using Rtools with gcc 4.8.3

2014-10-05 Thread Jeroen Ooms
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Duncan Murdoch  wrote:
> No, but I'd like to update Rtools to use the new compiler.  Have you got
> some time to help with that?

Sure I'm not exactly a windows expert but I'll help where I can (and
it seems others on the list are willing to jump in as well)

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