[Rd] Bogus warning in splinefun (PR#13954)
Full_Name: Paul Dunmore Version: 2.9.2 OS: Windows Submission from: (NULL) (99.236.3.129) The statement rm(x,y,nx,ux,o,method,iMeth) at line 95 in splinefun.R often throws a warning because ux is not found (it is only conditionally defined at line 35). spline.R handles this correctly, with rm(ux) at the end of the conditional block. __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
[Rd] Memory-management crash with UTF-8 on Windows (PR#13955)
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Dear R-Bugs,
thank you for your wonderful software, which we use a lot. We are having a =
bit of difficulty right now because it crashes sometimes with Unicode=20
characters.
Actual sessionInfo:
R version 2.9.0 (2009-04-17)=20
i386-pc-mingw32=20
locale:
LC=5FCOLLATE=3DGerman=5FGermany.1252;LC=5FCTYPE=3DGerman=5FGermany.1252;LC=
=5FMONETARY=3DGerman=5FGermany.1252;LC=5FNUMERIC=3DC;LC=5FTIME=3DGerman=5FG=
ermany.1252
attached base packages:
[1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base=20
We can crash R by reading or copy-pasting the following file into it (for=20
example, Rgui --vanilla).
I see a message "Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library", "Runtime Error!".=20
If you do not, please let me know and I'll try installing 2.9.2 and see if =
that fixes the problem (the list of bug fixes doesn't seem to include this =
one, but I'm not sure).
Many thanks and best wishes,
George Russell
EOS Risk Management
KG EOS Holding GmbH & Co | Steindamm 71, 20099 Hamburg | AG Hamburg HRA=20
95 748
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Re: [Rd] Memory-management crash with UTF-8 on Windows (PR#13955)
Without the file, we can do nothing with this, so please put it somewhere accessible. Also, we need exact reproduction instructions: how did you tell R this was a UTF-8 file? If you copy-pasted it, what did you copy it from? The posting guide and FAQ did ask you not to report on obsolete versions of R, so please do test a current version before replying with details of where the file is. It would also be helpful to have your exact OS, as the error appears to be in MSVCRT.dll, an operating system component. On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, g.russ...@eos-solutions.com wrote: --=_mixed 00289247C1257634_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear R-Bugs, thank you for your wonderful software, which we use a lot. We are having a = bit of difficulty right now because it crashes sometimes with Unicode=20 characters. Actual sessionInfo: R version 2.9.0 (2009-04-17)=20 i386-pc-mingw32=20 locale: LC=5FCOLLATE=3DGerman=5FGermany.1252;LC=5FCTYPE=3DGerman=5FGermany.1252;LC= =5FMONETARY=3DGerman=5FGermany.1252;LC=5FNUMERIC=3DC;LC=5FTIME=3DGerman=5FG= ermany.1252 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base=20 We can crash R by reading or copy-pasting the following file into it (for=20 example, Rgui --vanilla). I see a message "Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library", "Runtime Error!".=20 If you do not, please let me know and I'll try installing 2.9.2 and see if = that fixes the problem (the list of bug fixes doesn't seem to include this = one, but I'm not sure). Many thanks and best wishes, George Russell -- Brian D. Ripley, rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UKFax: +44 1865 272595 __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
[Rd] Display image in tcl/tk information window: path to file ?
Dear DevelopeRs,
for an R-Commander plugin, I want to display a pre-stored information image,
if the user presses a button. Everything works fine with the command
tcl("image", "create", "photo", "MaxC2.image", file="MaxC2res3image.gif")
for image creation, as long as the file entry refers to the correct location
of the file on my hard drive. How can I make this portable ?
I currently have the image stored in the inst directory. "R CMD INSTALL
--build" moves it to the top directory in the zip file. I have no idea how
to tell R (or tcl) where to look for the file. Any help is appreciated!
Best regards,
Ulrike
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Re: [Rd] Display image in tcl/tk information window: path to file ?
?system.file
for example (if the file lives in inst/images of your source package)
system.file( "images", "MaxC2res3image.gif", package = "yourpackage" )
Romain
On 09/17/2009 02:09 PM, Ulrike Groemping wrote:
Dear DevelopeRs,
for an R-Commander plugin, I want to display a pre-stored information image,
if the user presses a button. Everything works fine with the command
tcl("image", "create", "photo", "MaxC2.image", file="MaxC2res3image.gif")
for image creation, as long as the file entry refers to the correct location
of the file on my hard drive. How can I make this portable ?
I currently have the image stored in the inst directory. "R CMD INSTALL
--build" moves it to the top directory in the zip file. I have no idea how
to tell R (or tcl) where to look for the file. Any help is appreciated!
Best regards,
Ulrike
*
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BHT Berlin
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Re: [Rd] Display image in tcl/tk information window: path to file ?
Dear Ulrike,
If I understand correctly what you want to do, the image file is stored in
your package. If so, you can use the .path.package() function to locate your
package on the file system. For example, the Rcmdr uses the following code
to find its etc subdirectory: file.path(.path.package(package="Rcmdr")[1],
"etc").
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> Dear DevelopeRs,
>
> for an R-Commander plugin, I want to display a pre-stored information
image,
> if the user presses a button. Everything works fine with the command
>
> tcl("image", "create", "photo", "MaxC2.image", file="MaxC2res3image.gif")
>
> for image creation, as long as the file entry refers to the correct
location
> of the file on my hard drive. How can I make this portable ?
>
> I currently have the image stored in the inst directory. "R CMD INSTALL
> --build" moves it to the top directory in the zip file. I have no idea how
> to tell R (or tcl) where to look for the file. Any help is appreciated!
>
> Best regards,
> Ulrike
>
> *
> Ulrike Groemping
> BHT Berlin
>
>
> --
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[Rd] Windows Source Install Without Rtools
Regarding this from this week: 2.10.0 PACKAGE INSTALLATION (Windows) It is possible to install source packages without Rtools provided they have no compiled code and no configure.win or cleanup.win script. - what are the instructions to perform such a source install? - I assume one still needs MiKTeX -- is that right? - is the source install done from a tar.gz (in which case one would need tar to create it) or directly from the source directory tree? __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
[Rd] Antwort: Re: Memory-management crash with UTF-8 on Windows (PR#13956)
Dear Professor Ripley, a. I apologise for not including the file. I sent the E-Mail to=20 r-b...@r-project.org with an attachment, but the attachment evidently got=20 lost. However the text of the file is as follows: --- CUT HERE gctorture() characters <- intToUtf8(200:300) indices <- rep(sequence(5),10) substrings <- substring(characters,indices,indices + 5) factor(substrings) --- CUT HERE --- b. There is no Unicode file involved, the Unicode comes from the=20 "intToUtf8" function. c. The operating system is Windows XP Professional (2002), Service Pack 2. d. I have just tried installing R 2.9.2. This also crashes. Best wishes, George Russell EOS Risk Management KG EOS Holding GmbH & Co | Steindamm 71, 20099 Hamburg | AG Hamburg HRA=20 95 748 Tel: +49 (0)40 2850-1574 | g.russ...@eos-solutions.com Fax: +49 (0)40 2850-1559 | http://www.eos-solutions.com Pers=F6nlich haftend | EOS Holding GmbH | AG Hamburg HRB 78 748 Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrer | Hans-Werner Scherer, Klaus Engberding, Justus=20 Hecking-Veltman, Dr. Axel Steuernagel, Dr. Andreas Witzig, Paul Leary sen. Vorsitzender des Beirates | J=FCrgen Schulte-Laggenbeck=20 Diese E-Mail enth=E4lt vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich gesch=FCtzte=20 Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese E-Mail = irrt=FCmlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und = vernichten Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte=20 Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet This email may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you=20 are not the intended recipient or have received this email in error,=20 please notify the sender immediately and destroy this email. Any=20 unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this=20 email is strictly forbidden.=20 Prof Brian Ripley =20 17.09.2009 10:39 An g.russ...@eos-solutions.com Kopie r-de...@stat.math.ethz.ch, r-b...@r-project.org Thema Re: [Rd] Memory-management crash with UTF-8 on Windows (PR#13955) Without the file, we can do nothing with this, so please put it=20 somewhere accessible. Also, we need exact reproduction instructions:=20 how did you tell R this was a UTF-8 file? If you copy-pasted it, what=20 did you copy it from? The posting guide and FAQ did ask you not to report on obsolete=20 versions of R, so please do test a current version before replying=20 with details of where the file is. It would also be helpful to have your exact OS, as the error appears=20 to be in MSVCRT.dll, an operating system component. On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, g.russ...@eos-solutions.com wrote: > --=3D=5Fmixed 00289247C1257634=5F=3D > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Dear R-Bugs, > > thank you for your wonderful software, which we use a lot. We are having = a =3D > > bit of difficulty right now because it crashes sometimes with Unicode=3D20 > characters. > > Actual sessionInfo: > > R version 2.9.0 (2009-04-17)=3D20 > i386-pc-mingw32=3D20 > > locale: >=20 LC=3D5FCOLLATE=3D3DGerman=3D5FGermany.1252;LC=3D5FCTYPE=3D3DGerman=3D5FGerm= any.1252;LC=3D >=20 =3D5FMONETARY=3D3DGerman=3D5FGermany.1252;LC=3D5FNUMERIC=3D3DC;LC=3D5FTIME= =3D3DGerman=3D5FG=3D > ermany.1252 > > attached base packages: > [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base=3D20 > > We can crash R by reading or copy-pasting the following file into it=20 (for=3D20 > example, Rgui --vanilla). > > I see a message "Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library", "Runtime=20 Error!".=3D20 > If you do not, please let me know and I'll try installing 2.9.2 and see=20 if =3D > > that fixes the problem (the list of bug fixes doesn't seem to include=20 this =3D > > one, but I'm not sure). > > Many thanks and best wishes, > > George Russell --=20 Brian D. Ripley, rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UKFax: +44 1865 272595 __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Windows Source Install Without Rtools
On 17 September 2009 at 11:32, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: | Regarding this from this week: | | 2.10.0 PACKAGE INSTALLATION (Windows) | It is possible to install source packages without Rtools provided they | have no compiled code and no configure.win or cleanup.win script. | | - what are the instructions to perform such a source install? | - I assume one still needs MiKTeX -- is that right? | - is the source install done from a tar.gz (in which case one would | need tar to create it) or directly from the source directory tree? You may want to stick this http://developer.r-project.org/blosxom.cgi/R-devel into your RSS reader so that you get daily summaries of changes. I don't follow this too religiously (as I typically only built r-devel once we have alpha/beta/rc candidates) but even I am aware that a) dynamic .Rd conversion at runtime, so Miktex may no longer be needed b) untgz.exe on Windows to read (compressed) tarballs Dirk -- Three out of two people have difficulties with fractions. __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Windows Source Install Without Rtools
Thanks. Perhaps someone in the core group can still provide explicit information on how to install such a package. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > > On 17 September 2009 at 11:32, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > | Regarding this from this week: > | > | 2.10.0 PACKAGE INSTALLATION (Windows) > | It is possible to install source packages without Rtools provided they > | have no compiled code and no configure.win or cleanup.win script. > | > | - what are the instructions to perform such a source install? > | - I assume one still needs MiKTeX -- is that right? > | - is the source install done from a tar.gz (in which case one would > | need tar to create it) or directly from the source directory tree? > > You may want to stick this > > http://developer.r-project.org/blosxom.cgi/R-devel > > into your RSS reader so that you get daily summaries of changes. > > I don't follow this too religiously (as I typically only built r-devel once > we have > alpha/beta/rc candidates) but even I am aware that > > a) dynamic .Rd conversion at runtime, so Miktex may no longer be needed > > b) untgz.exe on Windows to read (compressed) tarballs > > Dirk > > -- > Three out of two people have difficulties with fractions. > __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Windows Source Install Without Rtools
On Sep 17, 2009, at 12:43 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Thanks. Perhaps someone in the core group can still provide explicit information on how to install such a package. R CMD INSTALL (see R --help and it has been *the* way to install packages for quite a while so I'm not sure how more explicit we have to make it...) Cheers, Simon On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: On 17 September 2009 at 11:32, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: | Regarding this from this week: | | 2.10.0 PACKAGE INSTALLATION (Windows) | It is possible to install source packages without Rtools provided they | have no compiled code and no configure.win or cleanup.win script. | | - what are the instructions to perform such a source install? | - I assume one still needs MiKTeX -- is that right? | - is the source install done from a tar.gz (in which case one would | need tar to create it) or directly from the source directory tree? You may want to stick this http://developer.r-project.org/blosxom.cgi/R-devel into your RSS reader so that you get daily summaries of changes. I don't follow this too religiously (as I typically only built r- devel once we have alpha/beta/rc candidates) but even I am aware that a) dynamic .Rd conversion at runtime, so Miktex may no longer be needed b) untgz.exe on Windows to read (compressed) tarballs Dirk -- Three out of two people have difficulties with fractions. __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Windows Source Install Without Rtools
Note that that is not currently the recommended way. Also, what comes after INSTALL? The source .tar.gz name? The pathname to the source directory? On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote: > > On Sep 17, 2009, at 12:43 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > >> Thanks. Perhaps someone in the core group can >> still provide explicit information on how to install such >> a package. >> > > R CMD INSTALL > > (see R --help and it has been *the* way to install packages for quite a > while so I'm not sure how more explicit we have to make it...) > > Cheers, > Simon > > > >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel >> wrote: >>> >>> On 17 September 2009 at 11:32, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >>> | Regarding this from this week: >>> | >>> | 2.10.0 PACKAGE INSTALLATION (Windows) >>> | It is possible to install source packages without Rtools provided they >>> | have no compiled code and no configure.win or cleanup.win script. >>> | >>> | - what are the instructions to perform such a source install? >>> | - I assume one still needs MiKTeX -- is that right? >>> | - is the source install done from a tar.gz (in which case one would >>> | need tar to create it) or directly from the source directory tree? >>> >>> You may want to stick this >>> >>> http://developer.r-project.org/blosxom.cgi/R-devel >>> >>> into your RSS reader so that you get daily summaries of changes. >>> >>> I don't follow this too religiously (as I typically only built r-devel >>> once we have >>> alpha/beta/rc candidates) but even I am aware that >>> >>> a) dynamic .Rd conversion at runtime, so Miktex may no longer be >>> needed >>> >>> b) untgz.exe on Windows to read (compressed) tarballs >>> >>> Dirk >>> >>> -- >>> Three out of two people have difficulties with fractions. >>> >> >> __ >> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >> >> > > __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Windows Source Install Without Rtools
On Sep 17, 2009, at 16:09 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Note that that is not currently the recommended way. Now that would be a surprise to me - to quote R-admin: 6.3.1: "R CMD INSTALL works in Windows to install source packages if you have the source-code package files". Also, what comes after INSTALL? The source .tar.gz name? The pathname to the source directory? R CMD INSTALL --help Usage: R CMD INSTALL [options] pkgs Install the add-on packages specified by pkgs. The elements of pkgs can be relative or absolute paths to directories with the package (bundle) sources, or to gzipped package 'tar' archives. The library tree [...] Cheers, S On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote: On Sep 17, 2009, at 12:43 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Thanks. Perhaps someone in the core group can still provide explicit information on how to install such a package. R CMD INSTALL (see R --help and it has been *the* way to install packages for quite a while so I'm not sure how more explicit we have to make it...) Cheers, Simon On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: On 17 September 2009 at 11:32, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: | Regarding this from this week: | | 2.10.0 PACKAGE INSTALLATION (Windows) | It is possible to install source packages without Rtools provided they | have no compiled code and no configure.win or cleanup.win script. | | - what are the instructions to perform such a source install? | - I assume one still needs MiKTeX -- is that right? | - is the source install done from a tar.gz (in which case one would | need tar to create it) or directly from the source directory tree? You may want to stick this http://developer.r-project.org/blosxom.cgi/R-devel into your RSS reader so that you get daily summaries of changes. I don't follow this too religiously (as I typically only built r- devel once we have alpha/beta/rc candidates) but even I am aware that a) dynamic .Rd conversion at runtime, so Miktex may no longer be needed b) untgz.exe on Windows to read (compressed) tarballs Dirk -- Three out of two people have difficulties with fractions. __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Windows Source Install Without Rtools
Maybe on other platforms but on Windows help does not get linked properly with all variations. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote: > On Sep 17, 2009, at 16:09 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > >> Note that that is not currently the recommended way. >> > > Now that would be a surprise to me - to quote R-admin: 6.3.1: "R CMD INSTALL > works in Windows to install source packages if you have the source-code > package files". > > >> Also, what comes after INSTALL? The source .tar.gz name? >> The pathname to the source directory? >> > > > R CMD INSTALL --help > > Usage: R CMD INSTALL [options] pkgs > > Install the add-on packages specified by pkgs. The elements of pkgs can > be relative or absolute paths to directories with the package (bundle) > sources, or to gzipped package 'tar' archives. The library tree > [...] > > Cheers, > S > > >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Simon Urbanek >> wrote: >>> >>> On Sep 17, 2009, at 12:43 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >>> Thanks. Perhaps someone in the core group can still provide explicit information on how to install such a package. >>> >>> R CMD INSTALL >>> >>> (see R --help and it has been *the* way to install packages for quite a >>> while so I'm not sure how more explicit we have to make it...) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > > On 17 September 2009 at 11:32, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > | Regarding this from this week: > | > | 2.10.0 PACKAGE INSTALLATION (Windows) > | It is possible to install source packages without Rtools provided > they > | have no compiled code and no configure.win or cleanup.win script. > | > | - what are the instructions to perform such a source install? > | - I assume one still needs MiKTeX -- is that right? > | - is the source install done from a tar.gz (in which case one would > | need tar to create it) or directly from the source directory tree? > > You may want to stick this > > http://developer.r-project.org/blosxom.cgi/R-devel > > into your RSS reader so that you get daily summaries of changes. > > I don't follow this too religiously (as I typically only built r-devel > once we have > alpha/beta/rc candidates) but even I am aware that > > a) dynamic .Rd conversion at runtime, so Miktex may no longer be > needed > > b) untgz.exe on Windows to read (compressed) tarballs > > Dirk > > -- > Three out of two people have difficulties with fractions. > __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >>> >>> >> >> > > __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Windows Source Install Without Rtools
On 17/09/2009 4:40 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Maybe on other platforms but on Windows help does not get linked properly with all variations. I think you are thinking of building binaries, not installing packages. Generally the only variation we advise against is R CMD build --binary Everything else should work fine, as far as I know. Duncan Murdoch On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote: On Sep 17, 2009, at 16:09 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Note that that is not currently the recommended way. Now that would be a surprise to me - to quote R-admin: 6.3.1: "R CMD INSTALL works in Windows to install source packages if you have the source-code package files". Also, what comes after INSTALL? The source .tar.gz name? The pathname to the source directory? R CMD INSTALL --help Usage: R CMD INSTALL [options] pkgs Install the add-on packages specified by pkgs. The elements of pkgs can be relative or absolute paths to directories with the package (bundle) sources, or to gzipped package 'tar' archives. The library tree [...] Cheers, S On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote: On Sep 17, 2009, at 12:43 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Thanks. Perhaps someone in the core group can still provide explicit information on how to install such a package. R CMD INSTALL (see R --help and it has been *the* way to install packages for quite a while so I'm not sure how more explicit we have to make it...) Cheers, Simon On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: On 17 September 2009 at 11:32, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: | Regarding this from this week: | | 2.10.0 PACKAGE INSTALLATION (Windows) | It is possible to install source packages without Rtools provided they | have no compiled code and no configure.win or cleanup.win script. | | - what are the instructions to perform such a source install? | - I assume one still needs MiKTeX -- is that right? | - is the source install done from a tar.gz (in which case one would | need tar to create it) or directly from the source directory tree? You may want to stick this http://developer.r-project.org/blosxom.cgi/R-devel into your RSS reader so that you get daily summaries of changes. I don't follow this too religiously (as I typically only built r-devel once we have alpha/beta/rc candidates) but even I am aware that a) dynamic .Rd conversion at runtime, so Miktex may no longer be needed b) untgz.exe on Windows to read (compressed) tarballs Dirk -- Three out of two people have difficulties with fractions. __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Windows Source Install Without Rtools
On 17/09/2009 5:55 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: On 17/09/2009 4:40 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Maybe on other platforms but on Windows help does not get linked properly with all variations. I think you are thinking of building binaries, not installing packages. Generally the only variation we advise against is R CMD build --binary Everything else should work fine, as far as I know. And I forgot to add: the way HTML help is handled in the upcoming 2.10.0 is different, so I suspect R CMD build --binary will work. I haven't tested it though... Duncan Murdoch Duncan Murdoch On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote: On Sep 17, 2009, at 16:09 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Note that that is not currently the recommended way. Now that would be a surprise to me - to quote R-admin: 6.3.1: "R CMD INSTALL works in Windows to install source packages if you have the source-code package files". Also, what comes after INSTALL? The source .tar.gz name? The pathname to the source directory? R CMD INSTALL --help Usage: R CMD INSTALL [options] pkgs Install the add-on packages specified by pkgs. The elements of pkgs can be relative or absolute paths to directories with the package (bundle) sources, or to gzipped package 'tar' archives. The library tree [...] Cheers, S On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote: On Sep 17, 2009, at 12:43 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Thanks. Perhaps someone in the core group can still provide explicit information on how to install such a package. R CMD INSTALL (see R --help and it has been *the* way to install packages for quite a while so I'm not sure how more explicit we have to make it...) Cheers, Simon On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: On 17 September 2009 at 11:32, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: | Regarding this from this week: | | 2.10.0 PACKAGE INSTALLATION (Windows) | It is possible to install source packages without Rtools provided they | have no compiled code and no configure.win or cleanup.win script. | | - what are the instructions to perform such a source install? | - I assume one still needs MiKTeX -- is that right? | - is the source install done from a tar.gz (in which case one would | need tar to create it) or directly from the source directory tree? You may want to stick this http://developer.r-project.org/blosxom.cgi/R-devel into your RSS reader so that you get daily summaries of changes. I don't follow this too religiously (as I typically only built r-devel once we have alpha/beta/rc candidates) but even I am aware that a) dynamic .Rd conversion at runtime, so Miktex may no longer be needed b) untgz.exe on Windows to read (compressed) tarballs Dirk -- Three out of two people have difficulties with fractions. __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Windows Source Install Without Rtools
Does that mean that Rcmd INSTALL --binary myPackage/ is still ok or should one use: Rcmd INSTALL myPackage/ without --binary and is this advice the same with and without Rtools? Also, as there is potential confusion here could the combinations of flags that are not recommended result in a warning? In the latter case at least one knows right off that its not the thing to do and can immediately abort and try something else if they don't want to suffer the consequences of bad help linking. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > On 17/09/2009 5:55 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: >> >> On 17/09/2009 4:40 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >>> >>> Maybe on other platforms but on Windows >>> help does not get linked properly with all >>> variations. >> >> I think you are thinking of building binaries, not installing packages. >> Generally the only variation we advise against is >> >> R CMD build --binary >> >> Everything else should work fine, as far as I know. > > And I forgot to add: the way HTML help is handled in the upcoming 2.10.0 is > different, so I suspect R CMD build --binary will work. I haven't tested it > though... > > Duncan Murdoch > >> >> Duncan Murdoch >> >>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Simon Urbanek >>> wrote: On Sep 17, 2009, at 16:09 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > Note that that is not currently the recommended way. > Now that would be a surprise to me - to quote R-admin: 6.3.1: "R CMD INSTALL works in Windows to install source packages if you have the source-code package files". > Also, what comes after INSTALL? The source .tar.gz name? > The pathname to the source directory? > R CMD INSTALL --help Usage: R CMD INSTALL [options] pkgs Install the add-on packages specified by pkgs. The elements of pkgs can be relative or absolute paths to directories with the package (bundle) sources, or to gzipped package 'tar' archives. The library tree [...] Cheers, S > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Simon Urbanek > wrote: >> >> On Sep 17, 2009, at 12:43 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >> >>> Thanks. Perhaps someone in the core group can >>> still provide explicit information on how to install such >>> a package. >>> >> R CMD INSTALL >> >> (see R --help and it has been *the* way to install packages for quite >> a >> while so I'm not sure how more explicit we have to make it...) >> >> Cheers, >> Simon >> >> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel >>> wrote: On 17 September 2009 at 11:32, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: | Regarding this from this week: | | 2.10.0 PACKAGE INSTALLATION (Windows) | It is possible to install source packages without Rtools provided they | have no compiled code and no configure.win or cleanup.win script. | | - what are the instructions to perform such a source install? | - I assume one still needs MiKTeX -- is that right? | - is the source install done from a tar.gz (in which case one would | need tar to create it) or directly from the source directory tree? You may want to stick this http://developer.r-project.org/blosxom.cgi/R-devel into your RSS reader so that you get daily summaries of changes. I don't follow this too religiously (as I typically only built r-devel once we have alpha/beta/rc candidates) but even I am aware that a) dynamic .Rd conversion at runtime, so Miktex may no longer be needed b) untgz.exe on Windows to read (compressed) tarballs Dirk -- Three out of two people have difficulties with fractions. >>> __ >>> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >>> >>> >>> __ >>> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >> >> > > __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Windows Source Install Without Rtools
Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Does that mean that Rcmd INSTALL --binary myPackage/ is still ok or should one use: No, that has never worked. Please follow Simon's advice, and read the manual. Duncan Murdoch Rcmd INSTALL myPackage/ without --binary and is this advice the same with and without Rtools? Also, as there is potential confusion here could the combinations of flags that are not recommended result in a warning? In the latter case at least one knows right off that its not the thing to do and can immediately abort and try something else if they don't want to suffer the consequences of bad help linking. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: On 17/09/2009 5:55 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: On 17/09/2009 4:40 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Maybe on other platforms but on Windows help does not get linked properly with all variations. I think you are thinking of building binaries, not installing packages. Generally the only variation we advise against is R CMD build --binary Everything else should work fine, as far as I know. And I forgot to add: the way HTML help is handled in the upcoming 2.10.0 is different, so I suspect R CMD build --binary will work. I haven't tested it though... Duncan Murdoch Duncan Murdoch On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote: On Sep 17, 2009, at 16:09 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Note that that is not currently the recommended way. Now that would be a surprise to me - to quote R-admin: 6.3.1: "R CMD INSTALL works in Windows to install source packages if you have the source-code package files". Also, what comes after INSTALL? The source .tar.gz name? The pathname to the source directory? R CMD INSTALL --help Usage: R CMD INSTALL [options] pkgs Install the add-on packages specified by pkgs. The elements of pkgs can be relative or absolute paths to directories with the package (bundle) sources, or to gzipped package 'tar' archives. The library tree [...] Cheers, S On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote: On Sep 17, 2009, at 12:43 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Thanks. Perhaps someone in the core group can still provide explicit information on how to install such a package. R CMD INSTALL (see R --help and it has been *the* way to install packages for quite a while so I'm not sure how more explicit we have to make it...) Cheers, Simon On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: On 17 September 2009 at 11:32, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: | Regarding this from this week: | | 2.10.0 PACKAGE INSTALLATION (Windows) | It is possible to install source packages without Rtools provided they | have no compiled code and no configure.win or cleanup.win script. | | - what are the instructions to perform such a source install? | - I assume one still needs MiKTeX -- is that right? | - is the source install done from a tar.gz (in which case one would | need tar to create it) or directly from the source directory tree? You may want to stick this http://developer.r-project.org/blosxom.cgi/R-devel into your RSS reader so that you get daily summaries of changes. I don't follow this too religiously (as I typically only built r-devel once we have alpha/beta/rc candidates) but even I am aware that a) dynamic .Rd conversion at runtime, so Miktex may no longer be needed b) untgz.exe on Windows to read (compressed) tarballs Dirk -- Three out of two people have difficulties with fractions. __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Windows Source Install Without Rtools
I meant to write: Rcmd INSTALL --build myPackage/ vs. Rcmd INSTALL myPackage/ You, yourself, have mentioned the problem of linking help pages on r-devel within the last few months: http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/e6/devel/09/05/1721.html and now that this is all changing it would be helpful to have comments on what now works best on Windows with the new change. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >> >> Does that mean that >> >> Rcmd INSTALL --binary myPackage/ >> >> is still ok or should one use: >> > > No, that has never worked. Please follow Simon's advice, and read the > manual. > > Duncan Murdoch >> >> Rcmd INSTALL myPackage/ >> >> without --binary and is this advice the same with and without Rtools? >> >> Also, as there is potential confusion here could the combinations of flags >> that are not recommended result in a warning? In the latter case at least >> one knows right off that its not the thing to do and can immediately abort >> and try something else if they don't want to suffer the consequences of >> bad help linking. >> >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Duncan Murdoch >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 17/09/2009 5:55 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: >>> On 17/09/2009 4:40 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > > Maybe on other platforms but on Windows > help does not get linked properly with all > variations. > I think you are thinking of building binaries, not installing packages. Generally the only variation we advise against is R CMD build --binary Everything else should work fine, as far as I know. >>> >>> And I forgot to add: the way HTML help is handled in the upcoming 2.10.0 >>> is >>> different, so I suspect R CMD build --binary will work. I haven't tested >>> it >>> though... >>> >>> Duncan Murdoch >>> >>> Duncan Murdoch > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Simon Urbanek > wrote: > >> >> On Sep 17, 2009, at 16:09 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Note that that is not currently the recommended way. >>> >>> >> >> Now that would be a surprise to me - to quote R-admin: 6.3.1: "R CMD >> INSTALL >> works in Windows to install source packages if you have the >> source-code >> package files". >> >> >> >>> >>> Also, what comes after INSTALL? The source .tar.gz name? >>> The pathname to the source directory? >>> >>> >> >> R CMD INSTALL --help >> >> Usage: R CMD INSTALL [options] pkgs >> >> Install the add-on packages specified by pkgs. The elements of pkgs >> can >> be relative or absolute paths to directories with the package (bundle) >> sources, or to gzipped package 'tar' archives. The library tree >> [...] >> >> Cheers, >> S >> >> >> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Simon Urbanek >>> wrote: >>> On Sep 17, 2009, at 12:43 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > > Thanks. Perhaps someone in the core group can > still provide explicit information on how to install such > a package. > > R CMD INSTALL (see R --help and it has been *the* way to install packages for quite a while so I'm not sure how more explicit we have to make it...) Cheers, Simon > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel > > wrote: > >> >> On 17 September 2009 at 11:32, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >> | Regarding this from this week: >> | >> | 2.10.0 PACKAGE INSTALLATION (Windows) >> | It is possible to install source packages without Rtools >> provided >> they >> | have no compiled code and no configure.win or cleanup.win >> script. >> | >> | - what are the instructions to perform such a source install? >> | - I assume one still needs MiKTeX -- is that right? >> | - is the source install done from a tar.gz (in which case one >> would >> | need tar to create it) or directly from the source directory >> tree? >> >> You may want to stick this >> >> http://developer.r-project.org/blosxom.cgi/R-devel >> >> into your RSS reader so that you get daily summaries of changes. >> >> I don't follow this too religiously (as I typically only built >> r-devel >> once we have >> alpha/beta/rc candidates) but even I am aware that >> >> a) dynamic .Rd conversion at runtime, so Miktex may no longer be >> needed >> >> b) untgz.exe on Windows to read (compressed) tarballs >> >> Dirk
Re: [Rd] Windows Source Install Without Rtools
On 17/09/2009 7:47 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: I meant to write: Rcmd INSTALL --build myPackage/ vs. Rcmd INSTALL myPackage/ You, yourself, have mentioned the problem of linking help pages on r-devel within the last few months: More recently than that. This is the problem I was referring to in the messages you quote below. http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/e6/devel/09/05/1721.html and now that this is all changing it would be helpful to have comments on what now works best on Windows with the new change. Why don't you try the new system, and report on what goes wrong? There is still time to fix it, so writing advice on what doesn't work seems a little premature. Duncan Murdoch On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Does that mean that Rcmd INSTALL --binary myPackage/ is still ok or should one use: No, that has never worked. Please follow Simon's advice, and read the manual. Duncan Murdoch Rcmd INSTALL myPackage/ without --binary and is this advice the same with and without Rtools? Also, as there is potential confusion here could the combinations of flags that are not recommended result in a warning? In the latter case at least one knows right off that its not the thing to do and can immediately abort and try something else if they don't want to suffer the consequences of bad help linking. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: On 17/09/2009 5:55 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: On 17/09/2009 4:40 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Maybe on other platforms but on Windows help does not get linked properly with all variations. I think you are thinking of building binaries, not installing packages. Generally the only variation we advise against is R CMD build --binary Everything else should work fine, as far as I know. And I forgot to add: the way HTML help is handled in the upcoming 2.10.0 is different, so I suspect R CMD build --binary will work. I haven't tested it though... Duncan Murdoch Duncan Murdoch On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote: On Sep 17, 2009, at 16:09 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Note that that is not currently the recommended way. Now that would be a surprise to me - to quote R-admin: 6.3.1: "R CMD INSTALL works in Windows to install source packages if you have the source-code package files". Also, what comes after INSTALL? The source .tar.gz name? The pathname to the source directory? R CMD INSTALL --help Usage: R CMD INSTALL [options] pkgs Install the add-on packages specified by pkgs. The elements of pkgs can be relative or absolute paths to directories with the package (bundle) sources, or to gzipped package 'tar' archives. The library tree [...] Cheers, S On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote: On Sep 17, 2009, at 12:43 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Thanks. Perhaps someone in the core group can still provide explicit information on how to install such a package. R CMD INSTALL (see R --help and it has been *the* way to install packages for quite a while so I'm not sure how more explicit we have to make it...) Cheers, Simon On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: On 17 September 2009 at 11:32, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: | Regarding this from this week: | | 2.10.0 PACKAGE INSTALLATION (Windows) | It is possible to install source packages without Rtools provided they | have no compiled code and no configure.win or cleanup.win script. | | - what are the instructions to perform such a source install? | - I assume one still needs MiKTeX -- is that right? | - is the source install done from a tar.gz (in which case one would | need tar to create it) or directly from the source directory tree? You may want to stick this http://developer.r-project.org/blosxom.cgi/R-devel into your RSS reader so that you get daily summaries of changes. I don't follow this too religiously (as I typically only built r-devel once we have alpha/beta/rc candidates) but even I am aware that a) dynamic .Rd conversion at runtime, so Miktex may no longer be needed b) untgz.exe on Windows to read (compressed) tarballs Dirk -- Three out of two people have difficulties with fractions. __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Windows Source Install Without Rtools
The software and manuals are not yet in readily accessible form on CRAN based on the date of the feature and I would prefer not to have to build it myself when any day now it will be there automatically anyways. Also, I was hoping to avoid a frustrating session of trial and error when surely someone in the core team already knows the likely answer. Building a package takes time and repeatedly trying it with different flags is time consuming. We are only discussing one line of code: R CMD ...something... On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > On 17/09/2009 7:47 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >> >> I meant to write: >> >> Rcmd INSTALL --build myPackage/ >> >> vs. >> >> Rcmd INSTALL myPackage/ >> >> You, yourself, have mentioned the problem of linking help >> pages on r-devel within the last few months: > > More recently than that. This is the problem I was referring to in the > messages you quote below. > >> http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/e6/devel/09/05/1721.html >> >> and now that this is all changing it would be helpful to have comments >> on what now works best on Windows with the new change. > > Why don't you try the new system, and report on what goes wrong? There is > still time to fix it, so writing advice on what doesn't work seems a little > premature. > > Duncan Murdoch > >> >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Duncan Murdoch >> wrote: >>> >>> Gabor Grothendieck wrote: Does that mean that Rcmd INSTALL --binary myPackage/ is still ok or should one use: >>> No, that has never worked. Please follow Simon's advice, and read the >>> manual. >>> >>> Duncan Murdoch Rcmd INSTALL myPackage/ without --binary and is this advice the same with and without Rtools? Also, as there is potential confusion here could the combinations of flags that are not recommended result in a warning? In the latter case at least one knows right off that its not the thing to do and can immediately abort and try something else if they don't want to suffer the consequences of bad help linking. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > On 17/09/2009 5:55 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > >> On 17/09/2009 4:40 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >> >>> Maybe on other platforms but on Windows >>> help does not get linked properly with all >>> variations. >>> >> I think you are thinking of building binaries, not installing >> packages. >> Generally the only variation we advise against is >> >> R CMD build --binary >> >> Everything else should work fine, as far as I know. >> > And I forgot to add: the way HTML help is handled in the upcoming > 2.10.0 > is > different, so I suspect R CMD build --binary will work. I haven't > tested > it > though... > > Duncan Murdoch > > >> Duncan Murdoch >> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Simon Urbanek >>> wrote: >>> On Sep 17, 2009, at 16:09 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > Note that that is not currently the recommended way. > > Now that would be a surprise to me - to quote R-admin: 6.3.1: "R CMD INSTALL works in Windows to install source packages if you have the source-code package files". > Also, what comes after INSTALL? The source .tar.gz name? > The pathname to the source directory? > > R CMD INSTALL --help Usage: R CMD INSTALL [options] pkgs Install the add-on packages specified by pkgs. The elements of pkgs can be relative or absolute paths to directories with the package (bundle) sources, or to gzipped package 'tar' archives. The library tree [...] Cheers, S > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Simon Urbanek > wrote: > >> On Sep 17, 2009, at 12:43 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >> >> >>> Thanks. Perhaps someone in the core group can >>> still provide explicit information on how to install such >>> a package. >>> >>> >> R CMD INSTALL >> >> (see R --help and it has been *the* way to install packages for >> quite >> a >> while so I'm not sure how more explicit we have to make it...) >> >> Cheers, >> Simon >> >> >> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel >>> >>> wrote: >>> On 17 September 2009 at 11:32, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: | Regarding this from this week: | | 2.10.0 PACKAGE INSTALLATION (Windows) | It is po
