Re: [Rd] (PR#8877) predict.lm does not have a weights argument for
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > (a) case weights: w_i = 3 means `I have three observations like (y, x)' > > (b) inverse-variance weights, most often an indication that w_i = 1/3 > means that y_i is actually the average of 3 observations at x_i. > > (c) multiple imputation, where a case with missing values in x is split > into say 5 parts, with case weights less than and summing to one. > > (d) Heteroscedasticity, where the model is rather > > y = x\beta + \epsilon, \epsilon \sim N(0, \sigma^2(x)) > > And there may well be other scenarios, but those are the most common (in > decreasing order) in my experience. I'd have (d) higher on the list, but never mind. There's also (e) Inverse probability weights: Knowing that part of the population is undersampled and wanting results that are compatible with what you would have gotten in a balanced sample. Prototypically: You sample X, taking only a third of those with X > c; find population mean of X, (or univariate regression on some other variable, which is only recorded in the subsample). (R-bugs stripped from recipients since this doesn't really have anything to do with the purported bug.) -- O__ Peter Dalgaard Øster Farimagsgade 5, Entr.B c/ /'_ --- Dept. of Biostatistics PO Box 2099, 1014 Cph. K (*) \(*) -- University of Copenhagen Denmark Ph: (+45) 35327918 ~~ - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) FAX: (+45) 35327907 __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Suggesting changes to HELP files?
> On 5/21/06, Spencer Graves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Is there a procedure for suggesting changes to HELP files of the core >> R distribution? If yes, what is it? If it would be considered a >> friendly gesture, I could find the relevant *.Rd file and submit a >> suggested modification to it someplace. Alternatively, I could just >> send suggestions someplace if they would receive appropriate >> consideration. >> As Duncan Murdoch already pointed out the easiest way of finding out who in R core is responsible for which part of R is looking at the subversion logs to see who has been working on a particular file, for most Sweave & Vignette-related parts that would be me. >> >> Second, I think the description of 'vignette' could be enhanced to >> include some version of my 'p.s.' to >> 'http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/R/Rhelp02a/archive/73494.html' and other >> similar posts. In particular, I see that the 'edit' method is described >> there, but I didn't understand what it said until I already knew how to >> use it. Also, 'edit' doesn't work for me under ESS / Emacs. For that, >> I use Stangle (as Sundar Dorai-Raj taught me). Done in r-devel, pls have a look. Best, Fritz __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
[Rd] the computation of exact p-value for the nonparametric cor-test with ties
Hello, I wuold like to propose my modifications of the original cor.test to you : I tried to calcolate the correct p-value for Spearman and Kendall's test with ties. Let me know what you think. Thanks you for your time. Antonietta di Salvatore test <- function(x, ...) UseMethod("test") test.default <- function(x, y, alternative = c("two.sided", "less", "greater"), method = c("pearson", "newkendall", "newspearman"), exact = NULL, conf.level = 0.95, ...) { alternative <- match.arg(alternative) method <- match.arg(method) DNAME <- paste(deparse(substitute(x)), "and", deparse(substitute(y))) if(length(x) != length(y)) stop("x and y must have the same length") OK <- complete.cases(x, y) x <- x[OK] y <- y[OK] n <- length(x) PVAL <- NULL NVAL <- 0 conf.int <- FALSE if(method == "pearson") { if(n < 3) stop("not enough finite observations") method <- "Pearson's product-moment correlation" names(NVAL) <- "correlation" r <- cor(x, y) df <- n - 2 ESTIMATE <- c(cor = r) PARAMETER <- c(df = df) STATISTIC <- c(t = sqrt(df) * r / sqrt(1 - r^2)) p <- pt(STATISTIC, df) if(n > 3) { ## confidence int. if(!missing(conf.level) && (length(conf.level) != 1 || !is.finite(conf.level) || conf.level < 0 || conf.level > 1)) stop(paste("conf.level must be a single number", "between 0 and 1")) conf.int <- TRUE z <- atanh(r) sigma <- 1 / sqrt(n - 3) cint <- switch(alternative, less = c(-Inf, z + sigma * qnorm(conf.level)), greater = c(z - sigma * qnorm(conf.level), Inf), two.sided = z + c(-1, 1) * sigma * qnorm((1 + conf.level) / 2)) cint <- tanh(cint) attr(cint, "conf.level") <- conf.level } } else { if(n < 2) stop("not enough finite observations") PARAMETER <- NULL if(method == "newkendall") { method <- "Kendall's rank correlation tau" names(NVAL) <- "tau" r <- cor(x,y, method = "kendall") ESTIMATE <- c(tau = r) if(!is.finite(ESTIMATE)) { # all x or all y the same ESTIMATE[] <- NA STATISTIC <- c(T = NA) PVAL <- NA } else { if(is.null(exact)) exact <- (n < 50) if(exact) { xr<-rank(x) yr<-rank(y) Gx<-table(xr) Gx<-Gx[Gx>1] Gx<-sum(Gx^2-Gx) #Gx is null when x variable is without ties Gy<-table(yr) Gy<-Gy[Gy>1] Gy<-sum(Gy^2-Gy) Gy is null when y variable is without ties q <- round((r + 1)*sqrt(n^2-n-Gx)*sqrt(n^2-n-Gy)/4) pkendall <- function(q, n) { .C("pkendall", length(q), p = as.double(q), as.integer(n), PACKAGE = "stats")$p } PVAL <- switch(alternative, "two.sided" = { if(q > sqrt(n^2-n-Gx)*sqrt(n^2-n-Gy)/4) p <- 1 - pkendall(q - 1, n) else p <- pkendall(q, n) min(2 * p, 1) }, "greater" = 1 - pkendall(q - 1, n), "less" = pkendall(q, n)) STATISTIC <- c(T = q) } else { STATISTIC <- c(z = r / sqrt((4 * n + 10) / (9 * n*(n-1 p <- pnorm(STATISTIC) } } } else { method<- "Spearman's rank correlation rho" names(NVAL) <- "rho" r <- cor(x,y,method="spearman") ESTIMATE <- c(rho = r) if(!is.finite(ESTIMATE)) { # all x or all y the same ESTIMATE[] <- NA STATISTIC <- c(S = NA) PVAL <- NA } else { ## Use the test statistic S = sum(rank(x) - rank(y))^2 ## and AS 89 for obtaining better p-values than via the ## simple normal approximation. ## In the case of no ties, S = (1-rho) * (n^3-n)/6. pspearman <- function(q, n, lower.tail = TRUE) { if(n <= 1290) # n*(n^2 - 1) does not overflow .C("prho", as.in
Re: [Rd] Wishlist: Vignettes on CRAN
> On Mon, 22 May 2006 21:42:34 -0700, > Seth Falcon (SF) wrote: > "Gabor Grothendieck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> This would certainly be nice. >> >> Note that the BioConductor package vignettes are online: >> http://www.bioconductor.org/docs/vignettes.html >> but there is nothing comparable for CRAN. > That page is actually out of date (we'll be updating it real soon > now). However, we are producing links to package vingnettes in the > automatically generated package summary pages. For example, take a > look at the summary page for the Biobase package: > http://bioconductor.org/packages/1.8/bioc/html/Biobase.html > This was fairly easy to setup. I would be happy to share the code, > etc. That looks excellent, I would be happy to use somethink like that for CRAN. But as Kurt already said: looks more like a summer project (currently I am swamped with teaching). .f __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] (PR#8877) predict.lm does not have a weights argument for
On Wed, 24 May 2006, Peter Dalgaard wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> (a) case weights: w_i = 3 means `I have three observations like (y, x)' >> >> (b) inverse-variance weights, most often an indication that w_i = 1/3 >> means that y_i is actually the average of 3 observations at x_i. >> >> (c) multiple imputation, where a case with missing values in x is split >> into say 5 parts, with case weights less than and summing to one. >> >> (d) Heteroscedasticity, where the model is rather >> >> y = x\beta + \epsilon, \epsilon \sim N(0, \sigma^2(x)) >> >> And there may well be other scenarios, but those are the most common (in >> decreasing order) in my experience. > > I'd have (d) higher on the list, but never mind. There's also I find that if you detect heteroscedasticity, then one of the following applies: - a transformation of y would be beneficial - a non-normal model, e.g. a Poisson regression, is more appropriate - the error variance really depends on y or Ey not x, as in most measurement-error scenarios (and the example in ?nls and the example in the addendum to the bug report). - in analytical chemistry as in the example on the addendum to the bug report, there are errors in both y and x to consider, and a functional relationship model is better. So I very rarely actually get as far as predicting from a heteroscedastic regression model. > (e) Inverse probability weights: Knowing that part of the population > is undersampled and wanting results that are compatible with what you > would have gotten in a balanced sample. Prototypically: You sample X, > taking only a third of those with X > c; find population mean of X, > (or univariate regression on some other variable, which is only > recorded in the subsample). I would call this an example of case weights (you are just weighting cases and saying `I have 1/p like this', and in rlm there is a difference between (a) and (b) and you would want to use wt.method="case" for (e)). -- Brian D. Ripley, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UKFax: +44 1865 272595 __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] optim "CG" bug w/patch proposal (PR#8786)
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > On Wed, 17 May 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >>> "Duncan" == Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> on Tue, 16 May 2006 08:34:06 -0400 writes: >> >>Duncan> On 5/16/2006 4:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Duncan> wrote: >>>> Probably I included too much at once in my bug report. I >>>> can live with an unfulfilled wishlist and thank you for >>>> thinking about it. The "badly-behaved" function is just >>>> an example to demonstrate the bug I reported. I think it >>>> is a bug if optim returns (without any warning) an >>>> unmatching pair of par and value: f(par) != value. And it >>>> is easily fixed. >> >>>> Andreas >> >>Duncan> I agree with you that on return f(par) should be >>Duncan> value. I agree with Brian that changes to the >>Duncan> underlying strategy need much more thought. >> >> I agree (to both). >> However, isn't Andreas' patch just fixing the problem >> and not changing the underlying strategy at all? >> [No, I did not study the code in very much detail ...] > > The (minor) issue is that x is updated but not f(x). I think the intended > stategy was to update neither, so Andreas' patch was a change of stategy. In > particular, a question is if this should be marked as a convergence failure. > But people really need to read the reference before commenting, > and I at least need to find the time to do so in more detail. Having spent some time with the reference and a debugger, as far as I can see what is happening here is that the second phase of the line search fails. That can only happen (in exactly this way) for a discontinuous function where the first phase has jumped over a discontinuity to an essentially flat region. In those circumstances updating *Fmin seems sensible: probably ideally one should detect the lack of near-quadratic and force a restart. But I don't think it is worth much effort to detect examples that are a very long way from the assumptions. So we'll just update *Fmin. > >> Martin Maechler >> >>>> Prof Brian Ripley wrote: >>>> >>>>> [Sorry for the belated reply: this came in just as I was leaving for >> a >>>>> trip.] >>>>> >>>>> I've checked the original source, and the C code in optim does >>>>> accurately reflect the published algorithm. >>>>> >>>>> Since your example is a discontinuous function, I don't see why you >>>>> expect CG to work on it. John Nash reports on his extensive >>>>> experience that method 3 is the worst, and I don't think we should >> let >>>>> a single 2D example of a badly-behaved function override that. >>>>> >>>>> Note that no other optim method copes with the discontiuity here: >> had >>>>> your reported that it would have been clear that the problem was >> with >>>>> the example. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>> >> Dear R team, >> >> when using optim with method "CG" I got the wrong $value for the >> reported $par. >> >> Example: >> f<-function(p) { >> if (!all(p>-.7)) return(2) >> if (!all(p<.7)) return(2) >> sin((p[1])^2)*sin(p[2]) >> } >> optim(c(0.1,-0.1),f,method="CG",control=list(trace=0,type=1)) >> $par 19280.68 -10622.32 >> $value -0.2346207 # should be 2! >> >> optim(c(0.1,-0.1),f,method="CG",control=list(trace=0,type=2)) >> $par 3834.021 -2718.958 >> $value -0.0009983175 # should be 2! >> >> Fix: >> --- optim.c (Revision 37878) >> +++ optim.c (Arbeitskopie) >> @@ -970,7 +970,8 @@ >> if (!accpoint) { >> steplength *= stepredn; >> if (trace) Rprintf("*"); >> - } >> + } else >> + *Fmin = f; >> } >> } while (!(count == n || accpoint)); >> if (count < n) { >> >> After fix: >> optim(c(0.1,-0.1),f,method="CG",control=list(trace=0,type=1)) >> $par 0.6993467 -0.4900145 >> $value -0.2211150 >> optim(c(0.1,-0.1),f,method="CG",control=list(trace=0,type=2)) >> $par 3834.021 -2718.958 >> $value 2 >> >> Wishlist: >>>>> >>>> [wishlist deleted] >>>> >>>> >> >>Duncan> __ >>Duncan> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list >>Duncan> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >> >> __ >> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >> >> > > -- Brian D. Ripley, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road
[Rd] Problem with pasteing formulas (PR#8897)
Hi, If I create a formula with say 100 terms and then paste it: xnam <- paste("x", 1:100, sep="") fmla <- as.formula(paste("y ~ ", paste(xnam, collapse= "+"))) paste(fmla) The result seems to cut off everything after the first 500 characters and gives no warning message. I have the most recent version of R from the R website and the problem occurs on both Unix and Windows machines Thanks John -- John Little Department of Mathematical Sciences Durham University Durham UK __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Problem with pasteing formulas (PR#8897)
See ?as.character (which paste effectively calls on non-character objects, as ?paste says): Note: 'as.character' truncates components of language objects to 500 characters (was about 70 before 1.3.1). so it is working as documented. Not then a bug. You can (and probably should) use a construct like that in terms.formula: else paste(deparse(form[[2]]), collapse = "") to convert a formula to a complete character string. On Wed, 24 May 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > If I create a formula with say 100 terms and then paste it: > > xnam <- paste("x", 1:100, sep="") > fmla <- as.formula(paste("y ~ ", paste(xnam, collapse= "+"))) > paste(fmla) > > The result seems to cut off everything after the first 500 characters > and gives no warning message. > > I have the most recent version of R from the R website and the problem > occurs on both Unix and Windows machines > > Thanks > > John > -- Brian D. Ripley, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UKFax: +44 1865 272595 __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Problem with pasteing formulas (PR#8897)
[Brian Ripley] >Note: > 'as.character' truncates components of language objects to 500 > characters (was about 70 before 1.3.1). >so it is working as documented. Not then a bug. Wrong reasoning. Bugs may well be documented :-) -- François Pinard http://pinard.progiciels-bpi.ca __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
[Rd] 2.3 issues on Mac
/Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/2.3/Resources/etc/ppc/Renviron and /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/2.3/Resources/etc/i386/Renviron both use /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current for LaTeX related variables. Could this be updated for i386 to take into account the teTeX intel binaries? Also, Makeconf is not setup to create universal binary libraries. Will this be done at some point? Lastly, R.mpkg crashes Apple's Remote Desktop 2.2 when installing on a client. I was wondering if anyone else sees this? Thanks, Ryan __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] (PR#8877) predict.lm does not have a weights argument for newdata
Prof. Ripley, thank you for being more explicit now! Thank you also for the fix to the wish that you derived from my bug report. Here comes the rationale for my updated patch, which I *humbly* propose as a more general solution to the problem. I have spent several days now on this problem, but I am no statistician, so please excuse my ignorance of any notational or other conventions that I might disregard below. I tried hard to do it right. Judging from the documentation to lm, I find that lm has only *one* perspective on weights which I propose is reasonable and sufficient. It minimises "sum(w*e^2))", more clearly expressed as sum(w_i * e_i^2) I infer that the point is to construct the weights such that the errors \epsilon = sqrt(w_k) * \epsilon_k are from a normal distribution N(0, \sigma^2), where index k covers all observations, past as well as future ones, the model is y = x\beta + \epsilon_k with \epsilon_k \sim N(0, \sigma_k^2) and \sigma_k^2 = \sigma^2 / w_k This is my view on this, it might be naive, it might be wrong, but if so, I can't see my mistake. An estimator for \sigma^2 is then sum(w_i * e_i^2) / df which is called res.var in the R code to predict.lm. An estimator for \sigma_k^2, the variance for observation k, is therefore res.var / w_k which is what my proposed patch, which can now be found in an updated form under http://www.uft.uni-bremen.de/chemie/ranke/r-patches/predict.lm.patch.r38195 implements. I removed the first version called lm.predict.patch because it did not correctly deal with prediction intervals for old data, sorry for the inconvenience ("Not found"). Meanwhile you disabled prediction intervals for old data, which the above patch reverts (no offense, please, I just think if predict.lm does confidence intervals for the regression line at the location of old data points, it might as well do illustrative prediction intervals at these locations. At least for the old data, the weights are known from the model object.) I tested my solution with the script http://www.uft.uni-bremen.de/chemie/ranke/r-patches/test.predict.lm.R * Prof Brian Ripley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060524 07:50]: > I am more than 'a little disappointed' that you expect a detailed > explanation of the problems with your 'bug' report, especially as you did > not provide any explanation yourself as to your reasoning (nor did you > provide any credentials nor references). I am sorry for this, and I worked hard to supply the information in the followups including this one. > Note that > > 1) Your report did not make clear that this was only relevant to > prediction intervals, which are not commonly used. I am not really sure if confidence intervals couldn't be improved in scenario (d). > 2) Only in some rather special circumstances do weights enter into > prediction intervals, and definitely not necessarily the weights used for > fitting. Yes, under these circumstances R would then need weights from the user in order to construct prediction intervals. > Indeed, it seems that to label the variances that do enter as > inverse weights would be rather misleading. Possibly. I assume it can be correctly done and documented (see my patch for a proposal). > 3) In a later message you referenced Brown's book, which is dealing with a > different model. > > The model fitted by lm is > > y = x\beta + \epsilon, \epsilon \sim N(0, \sigma^2) > > (Row vector x, column vector \beta.) I assumed that the model in Brown's book is a special case of the model fitted by lm, the only difference being that x is a row vector (1, x_B), where x_B is Brown's random variable X, and \beta contains \alpha_B and \beta_B. > If the observations are from the model, OLS is appropriate, but weighting > is used in several scenarios, including: > > (a) case weights: w_i = 3 means `I have three observations like (y, x)' I am not sure what you mean by this. Do you mean you have three exactly equal observations? In this case this could be regarded as a special case of (b) and w_i = 1/3 would be used as input for lm. What does the "'" mean in (y, x)'? > (b) inverse-variance weights, most often an indication that w_i = 1/3 > means that y_i is actually the average of 3 observations at x_i. Yes, and I take the reasoning for this to be as follows: An estimator for the variance of the means of n observations is 1/n times the variance of the single observations. Why shouldn't this apply to the means of multiple future observations? > (c) multiple imputation, where a case with missing values in x is split > into say 5 parts, with case weights less than and summing to one. I don't understand this, but I suppose lm works in the same way for weights w_i derived from such a procedure. > (d) Heteroscedasticity, where the model is rather > > y = x\beta + \epsilon, \epsilon \sim N(0, \sigma^2(x)) > >