Python Goldmine has been updated: http://preciseinfo.org/Convert/index_Convert_Python.html

2009-12-17 Thread tanix
Python Goldmine has been updated as of dec 15 2009.

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Python Goldmine has been updated: http://preciseinfo.org/Convert/index_Convert_Python.html

2010-01-10 Thread tanix
Python Goldmine collection contains the extensive collection of articles
going back several years. It includes thousands of code
examples and expert discussions on all major topics.

The information is organized by relevant topics, covered
by the corresponding chapters.

The information was filtered with sophisticated filters and vast
majority of artilces with little relevance have been filtered out.

If you have any specific requests for some new chapters to be added
and it is of interest to others, please post your requests on this
thread.

If anyone feels he has above average level of competence, or can
reccommend someone who posts on this group, you may request to be
included in the expert chapters.

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Re: Python Goldmine has been updated: http://preciseinfo.org/Convert/index_Convert_Python.html

2010-01-11 Thread tanix
In article , Terry Reedy 
 wrote:
>On 1/8/2010 11:50 AM, tanix wrote:
>> Python Goldmine collection contains the extensive collection of articles
>> going back several years. It includes thousands of code
>> examples and expert discussions on all major topics.
>>
>> The information is organized by relevant topics, covered
>> by the corresponding chapters.
>>
>> The information was filtered with sophisticated filters and vast
>> majority of artilces with little relevance have been filtered out.
>>
>> If you have any specific requests for some new chapters to be added
>> and it is of interest to others, please post your requests on this
>> thread.
>>
>> If anyone feels he has above average level of competence, or can
>> reccommend someone who posts on this group, you may request to be
>> included in the expert chapters.
>>
>> The Python Goldmine is at:
>>
>> http://preciseinfo.org/Convert/index_Convert_Python.html
>>
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>> http://preciseinfo.org
>>
>> Tens of thousands of code examples and expert discussions on
>> C++, MFC, VC, ATL, STL, templates, Java, Python, Javascript, PHP,
>> organized by major topics of language, tools, methods, techniques.
>
>This site pops up spam windowns. One was blocked, one managed to bypass 
>the popup blocker. Tnis is not friendly behaviour.

I am sorry. But this is a known issue.
This is one of counter vendors doing these popups.
They were contacted about this but they refuse to deal with it.
These popups are totally inappropriate.
These counters will be removed with the next major site update.

>Some categories have 100s of entries. Better, I think, to use a search 
>engine such as  Google with more specific search terms and a snippet of 
>context for each result.

Well, I can not tell you what is better for you.
You have to decide on your own.
What I can tell you is this: when you do Google search, you are not
going to get the most appropriate results. Because their filtering
is orders of magnitude less precise.

There is currenly work going on to do internal site search that
will further increase precision.

But even as it stands right now, you are getting the code examples
on related issues with > 90% certainty of articles to be on topic.

Beyond that, do as you wish.

>tjr

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Re: Python Goldmine has been updated: http://preciseinfo.org/Convert/index_Convert_Python.html

2010-01-11 Thread tanix
In article , Steve Holden 
 wrote:
>Terry Reedy wrote:
>> On 1/8/2010 11:50 AM, tanix wrote:
>>> Python Goldmine collection contains the extensive collection of articles
>>> going back several years. It includes thousands of code
>>> examples and expert discussions on all major topics.
>>>
>>> The information is organized by relevant topics, covered
>>> by the corresponding chapters.
>>>
>>> The information was filtered with sophisticated filters and vast
>>> majority of artilces with little relevance have been filtered out.
>>>
>>> If you have any specific requests for some new chapters to be added
>>> and it is of interest to others, please post your requests on this
>>> thread.
>>>
>>> If anyone feels he has above average level of competence, or can
>>> reccommend someone who posts on this group, you may request to be
>>> included in the expert chapters.
>>>
>>> The Python Goldmine is at:
>>>
>>> http://preciseinfo.org/Convert/index_Convert_Python.html
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Programmer's Goldmine collections:
>>>
>>> http://preciseinfo.org
>>>
>>> Tens of thousands of code examples and expert discussions on
>>> C++, MFC, VC, ATL, STL, templates, Java, Python, Javascript, PHP,
>>> organized by major topics of language, tools, methods, techniques.
>> 
>> This site pops up spam windowns. One was blocked, one managed to bypass
>> the popup blocker. Tnis is not friendly behaviour.
>> 
>> Some categories have 100s of entries. Better, I think, to use a search
>> engine such as  Google with more specific search terms and a snippet of
>> context for each result.
>> 
>Because I habitually run the NoScript extension to Firefox the popups
>didn't appear, but there didn't seem to be any original content on this
>site.

The site contains the selected articles from this group,
filtered with high precision filters.

> Google continues to be your friend.

>regards
> Steve

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Re: Python Goldmine has been updated: http://preciseinfo.org/Convert/index_Convert_Python.html

2010-01-11 Thread tanix
In article , Steve Holden 
 wrote:
>Steve Holden wrote:
>[...]
>> Because I habitually run the NoScript extension to Firefox the popups
>> didn't appear, but there didn't seem to be any original content on this
>> site. Google continues to be your friend.
>> 
>And dammit, why didn't I think to strip the links out instead of
>creating yet one more link to it? Sorry ...

There isn't a single ad on any of these sites beyond those nasty
popups displayed by 3rd party counter vendor.

Sorry, but this is the way it is right now.
The simpliest thing is just to close the popup window without even
looking at it because it is pretty much guaranteed to be totally
off the wall add no one would be interested in seeing anyway.

>regards
> Steve

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Re: Python Goldmine has been updated: http://preciseinfo.org/Convert/index_Convert_Python.html

2010-01-11 Thread tanix
In article , Terry Reedy 
 wrote:
>On 1/11/2010 2:50 PM, tanix wrote:
>> In article, Terry
> Reedy  wrote:
>
>>> This site pops up spam windowns. One was blocked, one managed to bypass
>>> the popup blocker. Tnis is not friendly behaviour.
>>
>> I am sorry. But this is a known issue.
>> This is one of counter vendors doing these popups.
>> They were contacted about this but they refuse to deal with it.
>> These popups are totally inappropriate.
>> These counters will be removed with the next major site update.
>
>Good.
>
>>> Some categories have 100s of entries. Better, I think, to use a search
>>> engine such as  Google with more specific search terms and a snippet of
>>> context for each result.
>>
>> Well, I can not tell you what is better for you.
>> You have to decide on your own.
>> What I can tell you is this: when you do Google search, you are not
>> going to get the most appropriate results. Because their filtering
>> is orders of magnitude less precise.
>
>What you have told me is that you are woefully ignorant of how good 
>Google results are.

Sorry to tell you, but I studied Google architecture in sufficient
detail to say what I am saying.

Read Standford paper on Google architecture.

> For example, search 'pyparsing'. First 3 hits are

You need to understand that the main principle of Google search
engine is backlinks. That will automatically put the sites with
the largest number of links pointing to them to the top of the
SERPS.

What does it mean, you need to think about it.
But I know what it means exactly.

One of the side effects is: you get the smappiest stuff in top
positions on SERPS and closer to the top, the more google spamy ads
you are going to see.

That is just the way their "economics" work.

But I am not interested in arguing about how good or bad Google is.
It is what it is, and if you find it does what you need, there is
no point of arguing about it one way or the other.

>http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/
>http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/examples
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyparsing/
>etc.
>
>Just what one would want to get info about and possibly download 
>PyParsing. Compare that to a linear scan of 100s of titles under your 
>general category 'parsing'.

Well, when you review a chapter index, you are basically into learning
all sorts of things that you may not be able to find easily in all
sorts of places. It is not meant to replace the search.

All it says is if you are looking at code example chapters, you
are guaranteed to see the code examples on the topic of that chapter
with > 90% of a chance. Such a thing is not possible with search
engine in principle.

And that is ALL that is guarantted. To be on topic of the chapter
with very high degree of precision and appropriateness.
How GOOD are the articles, depend on YOU, writers. :--}

>> There is currenly work going on to do internal site search that
>> will further increase precision.

>A site search bar would improve its usefulness a lot.

Yep. Especially if you have time to deal with these kinds of issues
while there is quite a list of priority items you have to deal with.

If any of you are interested in getting the search done, we can
discuss it. The email address is on the home page.

>Terry Jan Reedy

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Re: Is python not good enough?

2010-01-13 Thread tanix
In article <53ec94c0-dbdd-4901-a46b-d7faee121...@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, 
"[email protected]"  wrote:
>On Jan 13, 12:55=A0am, [email protected] (Aahz) wrote:
>> In article <[email protected].=
>com>,
>> ikuta liu =A0 wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >Is python not good enough? for google, enhance python performance is
>> >the good way better then choose build Go language?
>>
>> It is not at all clear that -- despite some comments to the contrary --
>> the Go developers are intending to compete with Python. =A0Go seems much
>> more intended to compete with C++/Java. =A0If they're successful, we may
>> eventually see GoPython. =A0;-)
>> --
>> Aahz ([email protected]) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <*> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http:/=
>/www.pythoncraft.com/
>>
>> "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait
>> until you hire an amateur." =A0--Red Adair
>
>GoPython i think would be neat.

Well, as soon as they restore the braces to identify the code
blocks and provide the functionality of advanced statically
type languages, such as threads, async processing, all synchronization
primitives, garbage collection, events and GUI, i'd be willing
to switch to Python. Some of it is already there. But not all.

Except, before doing it, I'd like to know what Python buys me
compared to say Java.

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Re: Is python not good enough?

2010-01-13 Thread tanix
In article , Dennis Lee 
Bieber  wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:53:19 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
> declaimed the following in
>gmane.comp.python.general:

>> GoPython i think would be neat.
>
>As long as it doesn't get called "GoPy" (too easy to pronounce as
>"goopy")

:--}

You guys are funny, I tellya.

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Re: Python Goldmine has been updated: http://preciseinfo.org/Convert/index_Convert_Python.html

2010-01-27 Thread tanix
In article , [email protected] (tanix) 
wrote:

Good news:

Site search has been fully implemented.

You can search the entire Python collection or a single chapter
related to specific context to find what you are looking for.

Bad news:

We are currently out of sync with google.
So, if you do a google search you might see a different article
than what google shows.

>Python Goldmine collection contains the extensive collection of articles
>going back several years. It includes thousands of code
>examples and expert discussions on all major topics.
>
>The information is organized by relevant topics, covered
>by the corresponding chapters.
>
>The information was filtered with sophisticated filters and vast
>majority of artilces with little relevance have been filtered out.
>
>If you have any specific requests for some new chapters to be added
>and it is of interest to others, please post your requests on this
>thread.
>
>If anyone feels he has above average level of competence, or can
>reccommend someone who posts on this group, you may request to be
>included in the expert chapters.
>
>The Python Goldmine is at:
>
>http://preciseinfo.org/Convert/index_Convert_Python.html
>

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Re: Python and Ruby

2010-01-30 Thread tanix
In article , Nobody 
 wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:29:05 -0800, Jonathan Gardner wrote:
>
>> There's a lot of "magic" in Ruby as well. For instance, function calls are
>> made without parentheses.
>
>That's also true for most functional languages, e.g. Haskell and ML, as
>well as e.g. Tcl and most shells. Why require "f(x)" or "(f x)" if "f x"
>will suffice?
>
>> Python is much, much cleaner. I don't know how anyone can honestly say
>> Ruby is cleaner than Python.
>
>I'm not familiar with Ruby, but most languages are cleaner than Python
>once you get beyond the "10-minute introduction" stage.

I'd have to agree. The only ones that beat Python in that department
are Javascript and PHP. Plus CSS and HTML if you can call those languages.

The very idea of using a number of blanks to identify your block level
is as insane as it gets. First of all, combinations of blanks and tabs,
depending on how your ide is setup to expand tabs, may get you bugs,
you'd never imagine in your wild dreams.

Braces is the most reliable way to identify blocks.

Sane compilers ignore blanks altogether.



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