Re: standard IDE in python 3000 (or beyond)? *semi-newbie*

2004-12-30 Thread mrkurt
Steve Holden wrote:
Aahz wrote:
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve Holden  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
With respect it wouldn't, since IDLE doesn;t include a GUI builder. I 
think Mike's cri-de-couer is for a tool that makes it as easy as 
Visual Studio to put a GUI-based application together.

Should the Python community really care about this, I suspect Eclipse
might be the best way.

If Eclipse really is the answer I'll have to learn more about it, but 
from the little I know so far it seems like a very heavyweight solution. 
Not that Visual Studio is becomingly trim, of course - it's a fine 
example of bloatware, but it does do a useful job as a GUI builder. 
Perhaps there's a lesson somewhere in there ...

regards
 Steve
About the closest thing to what Mike might want is Boa Constructor, 
which does have a GUI building tool.  It is not as polished as the 
Visual Studio GUI builder, but there are a lot of controls there that 
can be used.  It requires the wxWindows toolkit.

BTW, has anyone used or tried WingIDE?  It does look like a really 
polished product.

--mrkurt
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Re: standard IDE in python 3000 (or beyond)? *semi-newbie*

2004-12-30 Thread mrkurt
mrkurt wrote:
Steve Holden wrote:
Aahz wrote:
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve Holden  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
With respect it wouldn't, since IDLE doesn;t include a GUI builder. 
I think Mike's cri-de-couer is for a tool that makes it as easy as 
Visual Studio to put a GUI-based application together.


Should the Python community really care about this, I suspect Eclipse
might be the best way.

If Eclipse really is the answer I'll have to learn more about it, but 
from the little I know so far it seems like a very heavyweight 
solution. Not that Visual Studio is becomingly trim, of course - it's 
a fine example of bloatware, but it does do a useful job as a GUI 
builder. Perhaps there's a lesson somewhere in there ...

regards
 Steve
About the closest thing to what Mike might want is Boa Constructor, 
which does have a GUI building tool.  It is not as polished as the 
Visual Studio GUI builder, but there are a lot of controls there that 
can be used.  It requires the wxWindows toolkit.
Some self-correction:
Sorry, I meant to call them "widgets", not "controls".  And Boa 
Constructor needs wxPython, which comes with wxWindows.
BTW, has anyone used or tried WingIDE?  It does look like a really 
polished product.

--mrkurt
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