Re: Firefighters at the site of WTC7 "Move away the building is going to blow up, get back the building is going to blow up."
On 2 May 2007 20:10:20 -0700, Midex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES Trying to understand the World Trade Center events is like waking up to act fifteen of a long Greek Tragedy. It needs a complex fabric of description to give a full picture. In explaining this crisis, we will be showing how the situation rests on layers of historical developments, layers of crises and solutions. shamelessly taken from: http://www.againstsleepandnightmare.com/ASAN/ASAN7/ASAN7.html The World After September 11th, 2001 The Old Mole By the time you read this, a crisis different from September 11th may well be foremost in people's minds. Read on. For us today, all the crises merge to one and we can see the form of Enron's Collapse or the Iraq War within September 11th and vice-versa. Now, beyond the death and destruction, the horror of an event like September 11th is the horror of losing control of your world. This feeling is an extension of the ordinary experience of being a resident of modern capitalist society. Here, work, commuting, shopping, and television are transmitted to you in ways that are beyond any individual or collective control. Damn good read. -- == Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News== http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups = East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption = -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Firefighters at the site of WTC7 "Move away the building is going to blow up, get back the building is going to blow up."
On Fri, 04 May 2007 03:26:17 -0700, James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >default wrote: >> On 2 May 2007 20:10:20 -0700, Midex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES >> >> Trying to understand the World Trade Center events is like waking up >> to act fifteen of a long Greek Tragedy. It needs a complex fabric of >> description to give a full picture. In explaining this crisis, we will >> be showing how the situation rests on layers of historical >> developments, layers of crises and solutions. >> >> shamelessly taken from: >> http://www.againstsleepandnightmare.com/ASAN/ASAN7/ASAN7.html >> >> The World After September 11th, 2001 >> >> The Old Mole >> >> By the time you read this, a crisis different from September 11th may >> well be foremost in people's minds. Read on. For us today, all the >> crises merge to one and we can see the form of Enron's Collapse or the >> Iraq War within September 11th and vice-versa. Now, beyond the death >> and destruction, the horror of an event like September 11th is the >> horror of losing control of your world. This feeling is an extension >> of the ordinary experience of being a resident of modern capitalist >> society. Here, work, commuting, shopping, and television are >> transmitted to you in ways that are beyond any individual or >> collective control. >> >> Damn good read. > >Marxist trash. We've been conditioned to think in those terms and the web site is communist. The philosophy of communism isn't so bad, it is the people and application that are the problem. Capitalism works right out of the box then begins to fray and deteriorate - again due to people and application. Either system creates an elite class and poor class with little or no middle ground. Each system is, ultimately, a failure. I'm not advocating either system, both are flawed as long as people can gain and hold power. Somewhere in there is a solution to the problems - I wouldn't presume to know the right course. Our politicians presume to know the right course - but they have no idea what is happening in the real world just their own political world. We have a mix of socialism and capitalism in the US no matter what the government/media hype says it is. Free market capitalism? hardly. -- == Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News== http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups = East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption = -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: *** AMERICAN BASTARDS DESERVE TO BE RAPED ***
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:01:09 -0500, "radiosrfun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I WISH - that the President and Congress of this country would shut off ALL >foreign aid. Ditto that. Israel is the chief beneficiary of our foreign aid largesse. Some 8 billion dollars annually. What doesn't find its way into politicians pockets goes to pay for a military that is winning us a lot of new friends in the Arab world. We pay Egypt ~ 2 billion a year in extortion to keep them from attacking Israel. The actually amount Israel receives is not really known to the public. The official numbers read something like 3 billion in aid, and another 5 billion in guaranteed loans - which are turned into grants year after year. This is money we borrow so there's an additional interest burden. Actually when you talk about shutting off "foreign aid" you may be making thermate's point for him. -- -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: *** AMERICAN BASTARDS DESERVE TO BE RAPED ***
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:15:44 -0800, ChairmanOfTheBored <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are both fucked in the head, coffee or not. He more than you, but >still, you both don't know what you are talking about. Any castigation from Bored is an accolade . . . I must be on the right track to get that knee jerk reaction. -- -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python GUI toolkit
what would be the best python GUI toolkit, it must be cross platform. i have tried gtk, but it interface are real bad and its coding was difficult so i dropped it, the only remaining are qt4 and wx, i would like to know if one of these or any other toolkit is capable of creating good-looking GUI's, like in other apps, for e.g, .net apps. i m a noob, and willing to learn, so difficulty is no problem -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python GUI toolkit
what i meant was, i tried gtk, didnt like it, the main reason was that it had a very bad gui appeal for me, i did try my hand at wx , and i would have stuck with it, but then i saw the qt4 screenshot and couple of examples of its code and i liked it, so i was wondering, if anyone would tell me that i should stick to wx or go forward with qt4. also, is qt4 apps better looking in both win/linux than wx apps, coz the main thing i m looking for is visual appeal of the gui. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Hello boys!
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:56:07 -0700 (PDT), Milenko Stojadinovic Cvrcko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hello, this is Milenko Stojadinovic from town Banjaluka, >Bosnia and Herzegovina, also known as Cvrcko >Does anyone know of any bars in town where I can >swallow a bucket of cum? It can be either dog, >horse or human cum. Also, does anyone know of >any sex bars where people will shit in your mouth? >I also like eating shit. Come to the US and park your mouth in front of George Bush - all the Bshit you can eat - and it keeps on coming! I have a buddy in Bosna - he's normal. -- == Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News== http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Hello boys!
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:56:39 -0700, Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Now you know why I blanket kill-file googlegroups. > >...Jim Thompson I knew that! Every now and then one groper will make it back to the scene of his crime - but, granted, there was no hope for this one. -- == Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News== http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Hello boys!
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:12:59 + (UTC), Cydrome Leader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In rec.crafts.metalworking Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:47:16 -0400, default <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:56:07 -0700 (PDT), Milenko Stojadinovic Cvrcko >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>>Hello, this is Milenko Stojadinovic from town Banjaluka, >>>>Bosnia and Herzegovina, also known as Cvrcko >>>>Does anyone know of any bars in town where I can >>>>swallow a bucket of cum? It can be either dog, >>>>horse or human cum. Also, does anyone know of >>>>any sex bars where people will shit in your mouth? >>>>I also like eating shit. >>> >>>Come to the US and park your mouth in front of George Bush - all the >>>Bshit you can eat - and it keeps on coming! >>> >>>I have a buddy in Bosna - he's normal. >> >> Now you know why I blanket kill-file googlegroups. > >So you and everybody can talk about them nonstop? If you mean Google Groups the condemnation is justified. Who is "them?" Real people do occasionally wander in to GG - or those without news servers - or without understanding of Usenet. Basically, in the engineering groups (in particular) outsiders are welcome. Engineers are smart, creative and tolerant as a general rule. Lighten up. Who are you defending? and Who goes into Usenet with a thin skin? Expect ridicule, expect condemnation - "water off a duck's back." You may think your viewpoint is the only one, the right one, the valid one - but a few million others may disagree. And you ain't started to deal with culture shock - some countries place emphasis on diplomacy _ you know the "how are you?" stuff, others don't, and seem very cold. Adapt. -- == Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News== http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What is Expresiveness in a Computer Language?
Randy Howard wrote: > Keith Thompson wrote > (in article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>): > > > >\/| |\| __\,,\ /,,/__ > > \||/ | | | jgs (__Y__) > > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ > > == > > Out of curiosity, does anyone remember who 'jgs' refers to > above? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Stark Brian -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Xah's edu corner: on Microsoft hatred
J|rgen Exner wrote: > Just for the records at Google et.al. in case someone stumbles across > Xah's masterpieces in the future: > Xah is very well known as the resident troll in many NGs and his > 'contributions' are less then useless. > > Best is to just ignore him. I already had him killfiled. I'm going to add a few of these non-comp.lang.c newsgroups as well, not due to any animosity towards them but because I don't read them and don't plan to, so any message crossed to them is likely a troll. A good newsreader and aggressive use of filtering is the best way to handle such people. Brian -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: function call overhead
The original message in this thread was posted with the intent to disrupt comp.lang.c by setting follow-ups there. Please either ignore this thread or change the distribution. Thanks, and sorry our troll has caused problems in your group. Brian -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Should I Learn Python or Ruby next?
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 02:53, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: > > (that makes me think that Perl should be renamed as it outrageously share >> the same 1st character with Python). >> > > +1. I suggest CalcifiedMolluscSecretion. The very awkwardness > of that name will doom the language to the obscurity that it > deserves relative to the One True Language Whose Name Starts > With P. :-) > > -- > Greg > > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > May I suggest that you read the Python license. Really read it. Then read the Ruby license. Really read it. Ask yourself, if I am just using either internally, and not distributing anything, does it matter which one I use? Then, ask yourself, if I am creating code to distribute, especially for commercial purposes, does it matter which one I use? Which would you be more willing to "bet the farm" on (or your house, your career, your food. etc.)? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python "why" questions
>From "the emperor's new clothes" department:
1) Why do Python lists start with element [0], instead of element [1]?
"Common sense" would seem to suggest that lists should start with [1].
2) In Python 3, why is print a function only, so that: print "Hello, World"
is not okay, but it must be print("Hello, World") instead? (Yeah, I know:
picky, picky . . . )
3) In Python 3, why does 2.0 / 3.0 display as 0., but 8 *
3.57 displays as 28.56 (rounded off to 2 decimal places)? And yet, in
Python 2.6, 8 * 3.57 displays as 28.559?
And we wonder why kids don't want to learn to program.
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Re: Python "why" questions
Not to prolong a good "food fight", but IIRC, many years ago in QBasic, one could choose OPTION BASE 0 or OPTION BASE 1 to make arrays start with element [0] or element [1], respectively. Could such a feature be added to Python without significantly bloating the interpreter? Then, if starting with [0] "works for you", nothing really changes. And if starting with [1] "works for you", then you are not made to feel like a second-class citizen, and about as welcome as a dimwit at the Mensa meeting. Isn't Python supposed to be simple and accessible, and therefore fun? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
develop for Windows on GNU/Linux, using Python
Consider: Can someone do development of programs for use on Windows systems, but developed totally on a GNU/Linux system, using standard, contemporary 32 and / or 64-bit PC hardware? This would be for someone who can not or will not use Windows, but wants to create software for those who do. This might not include the use of VM for developing on GNU/Linux, as that would seem to require a Windows installation disk, which the developer may not be able or willing to obtain and use. Is the correct answer: 1) no. 2) yes. 3) yes, a "Hello World" program will run just fine on the Windows Python interpreter. 4) other. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: develop for Windows on GNU/Linux, using Python
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 14:31, J.O. Aho wrote: > Kev Dwyer wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:55:43 -0500, Default User wrote: > > > >> Consider: > >> > >> Can someone do development of programs for use on Windows systems, but > >> developed totally on a GNU/Linux system, using standard, contemporary 32 > >> and / or 64-bit PC hardware? > >> > >> This would be for someone who can not or will not use Windows, but wants > >> to create software for those who do. > >> > >> This might not include the use of VM for developing on GNU/Linux, as > >> that would seem to require a Windows installation disk, which the > >> developer may not be able or willing to obtain and use. > >> > >> Is the correct answer: > >> 1) no. > >> 2) yes. > >> 3) yes, a "Hello World" program will run just fine on the Windows Python > >> interpreter. > >> 4) other. > > > > Hello, > > > > The answer is "it depends", or 4 on your list of responses. > > > > You can write pure python on a Linux machine and it will run fine on > > Windows as long as you've taken care to program in a portable fashion. > > And not use modules not yet converted to microsoft, seems to happen from > time > to time. > > > > if you have C-extensions in > > your code you'll need to compile them over Windows. If you want to > > program against the Windows API you'll need access to a Windows box. > > You can always cross compile, not only over OS but even CPU architecture, > but > of course testing will be more difficult, on x86 based Linux you can use > wine > or similar to test, but can give you some differences to run on a native or > virtualized instance. > > > < sigh > . . . Well, that's about what I expected, unfortunately. But thanks for the honest replies. [OT] So what's the alternative -- use the end user's browser as an interpreter for JavaScript or HTML5? [/OT] -- > > //Aho > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
