pow() works but sqrt() not!?
Hi all, this is a newbie question on : Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 19 2006, 09:52:17) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 PC with WinXP In http://www.python.org/doc/2.3.5/lib/module-math.html I read: "sqrt( x) Return the square root of x." Now the test for module math with function pow(): --- >>> pow(9,9) 387420489 Fine, but sqrt() fails: --- >>> sqrt(9) I get this error message 'Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in sqrt(9) NameError: name 'sqrt' is not defined' Same for sin() and cos(). ">>> Import math" does not help. Will I have to define the sqrt() function first? If so, how? Please help! Thank you, Siggi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: pow() works but sqrt() not!?
Thank you very much, Tõnis!: *** 1 *** >you forgot to import math module >>> import math Nope, I did not! But I used sqrt(9), and not math.sqrt(9). The latter works excellent, thank you! From now on, I will use "import math" and "math.fuction()" for EVERY mathematical function, even for pow() etc. just to be on the safe side! *** 2 *** >if you want math functions to your current namespace use: >>> from math import * What is a "namespace" and what is the difference between ">>>import math" and ">>>from math import *" ? Siggi "tonisk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you forgot to import math module >>> import math >>> math.sqrt(9) 3.0 if you want math functions to your current namespace use: >>> from math import * -- Tõnis On Jan 4, 10:13 am, "siggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > this is a newbie question on : > Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 19 2006, 09:52:17) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] > on > win32 > PC with WinXP > > Inhttp://www.python.org/doc/2.3.5/lib/module-math.html > I read: > > "sqrt( x) Return the square root of x." > > Now the test for module math with function pow(): > --->>> pow(9,9)387420489 > > Fine, but sqrt() fails: > --->>> sqrt(9)I get this error message > > 'Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > sqrt(9) > NameError: name 'sqrt' is not defined' > > Same for sin() and cos(). ">>> Import math" does not help. Will I have to > define the sqrt() function first? If so, how? > > Please help! > > Thank you, > > Siggi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: pow() works but sqrt() not!?
Thank you Tõnis, both for the link and your patient explanation :-) Siggi "tonisk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >if you want math functions to your current namespace use: > >>> from math import *What is a "namespace" and what is the difference > >>> between ">>>import math" > and ">>>from math import *" ? for namespaces read this http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/pytut/tut_68.html import math creates new namespace "math" for names in that module, so you can acess them by prefixing them with "math", like math.sqrt(9). from math import * imports all names to your local scope, so you do not have to prefix them, sqrt(9) -- Tõnis -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: pow() works but sqrt() not!?
Thanks for the explanation. I am astonished what an interpreted language is able to do! "Fredrik Lundh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "siggi" wrote: > >> Nope, I did not! But I used sqrt(9), and not math.sqrt(9). The latter >> works >> excellent, thank you! From now on, I will use "import math" and >> "math.fuction()" for EVERY mathematical function, even for pow() etc. >> just >> to be on the safe side! > > pow and math.pow are two slightly different things, though. pow() works > on > any type that supports power-of operations (via the __pow__ hook), while > math.pow treats everything as a 64-bit float: > >>>> math.pow(2, 200) > 1.6069380442589903e+060 > >>>> pow(2, 200) > 1606938044258990275541962092341162602522202993782792835301376L > > pow also takes a third modulo argument (pow(x,y,z) is equivalent to > pow(x,y) % z, > but can be implemented more efficiently for certain data types). > > > > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: pow() works but sqrt() not!?
Thanks for that, too! Would be interesting to learn how these different algorithms influence the precision of the result!? "Boris Borcic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > siggi wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> this is a newbie question on : >> Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 19 2006, 09:52:17) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] >> on >> win32 >> PC with WinXP >> >> In >> http://www.python.org/doc/2.3.5/lib/module-math.html >> I read: >> >> "sqrt( x) Return the square root of x." >> >> Now the test for module math with function pow(): >> --- >>>>> pow(9,9) >> 387420489 >> >> Fine, but sqrt() fails: >> --- > > BTW note that (of course) you can write pow(x,.5) or x**.5 for sqrt(x) > without any preliminary import statement -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
where to find wx package
Hi all, a newbie question: I have a program gui03A.py using wxPython, importing it such: "from wxPython.wx import *" The program works, but I get the warning message: "gui03A.py:4: DeprecationWarning: The wxPython compatibility package is no longer automatically generated or activly maintained. Please switch to the wx package as soon as possible." However, after extensive searching on www.python.org and Googling the web, I do not find any package with "wx" as its only name. Where can I get the wx package (for win32 XP)? Thanks, Siggi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: where to find wx package
Thanks Rob! siggi "Rob Williscroft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > siggi wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in > comp.lang.python: > >> Hi all, >> >> a newbie question: >> >> I have a program gui03A.py using wxPython, importing it such: >> "from wxPython.wx import *" >> >> The program works, but I get the warning message: >> >> "gui03A.py:4: DeprecationWarning: The wxPython compatibility package >> is no longer automatically generated or activly maintained. Please >> switch to the wx package as soon as possible." >> >> However, after extensive searching on www.python.org and Googling the >> web, I do not find any package with "wx" as its only name. >> >> Where can I get the wx package (for win32 XP)? > > The "wx package" talked about above is also part of WxPython, > so you have already got it. To import it use: > > import wx > > You will need to translate all (well most) identifiers in > your programme from wxBlah to wx.Blah so: > > class MyFrame( wxFrame ): > pass > > becomes > > class MyFrame( wx.Frame ): > pass > > Rob. > -- > http://www.victim-prime.dsl.pipex.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: where to find wx package
Thanks to you, too, Robert! siggi "Robert Kern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > siggi wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> a newbie question: >> >> I have a program gui03A.py using wxPython, importing it such: >> "from wxPython.wx import *" >> >> The program works, but I get the warning message: >> >> "gui03A.py:4: DeprecationWarning: The wxPython compatibility package is >> no >> longer automatically generated or activly maintained. Please switch to >> the >> wx package as soon as possible." >> >> However, after extensive searching on www.python.org and Googling the >> web, I >> do not find any package with "wx" as its only name. >> >> Where can I get the wx package (for win32 XP)? > > It's the same project (from the people at www.wxpython.org), they just > renamed > the package. You already have it installed. > > -- > Robert Kern > > "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless > enigma > that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it > had > an underlying truth." > -- Umberto Eco > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
where is Microsoft Speech Object Library 5.1 option in PythonWin 2.5?
Hi all, newbie question: I'd like to try speech synthesis with PythonWin 2.5. Problem ** according to several instructions, such as found on http://surguy.net/articles/speechrecognition.xml and in a book on Python, I have to select Tools | COM MakePy Utility | Microsoft Speech Object Library 5.1, SDK 5.1, that is. However, in my Python 2.5/PythonWin 2.5 installation I find as only option "Microsoft Speech Object Library 5.0" to select. Unfortunately, 5.1 is the lowest SDK version I found on http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5E86EC97-40A7-453F-B0EE-6583171B4530&displaylang=en#QuickInfoContainer Will this PythonWin's Tools | COM MakePy Utility for 5.0 work with SDK 5.1? Or will PythonWin's Tools | COM MakePy Utility be updated to SDK 5.1, once I have SDK 5.1 installed? Thanks, Siggi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: where is Microsoft Speech Object Library 5.1 option inPythonWin 2.5?
Gabriel Genellina wrote: > After you download and install version 5.1, it should appear on the list. It should, but it does not! Shutting down and starting the WinXP Home system anew did not help. The SDK 5.1 installation went smoothly, however. What can I do to find out what is wrong? siggi "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > At Friday 5/1/2007 11:24, siggi wrote: > >>However, in my Python 2.5/PythonWin 2.5 installation I find as only option >>"Microsoft Speech Object Library 5.0" to select. > > This list shows all the COM objects currently registered in Windows, does > not depend on Pythonwin. > >>Unfortunately, 5.1 is the lowest SDK version I found on >>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5E86EC97-40A7-453F-B0EE-6583171B4530&displaylang=en#QuickInfoContainer > > After you download and install version 5.1, it should appear on the list. > > > -- > Gabriel Genellina > Softlab SRL > > > > > > __ Preguntá. Respondé. > Descubrí. Todo lo que querías saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, está en > Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). ¡Probalo ya! http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python and SDK5.1 are just terrific!!!
Thanks, Jussi, for your post, but I found that PythonWin's SDK5.0 option
works well with MS SDk5.1.
Just had an Email read for me using a small Python program: correct English,
even the date such as 12/06/06 was correctly transformed into the names of
the month and year. Python is great1
Siggi
"Jussi Salmela" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Siggi kirjoitti:
>> Gabriel Genellina wrote:
>>
>>> After you download and install version 5.1, it should appear on the
>>> list.
>>
>> It should, but it does not! Shutting down and starting the WinXP Home
>> system anew did not help.
>> The SDK 5.1 installation went smoothly, however. What can I do to find
>> out
>> what is wrong?
>>
>> siggi
>>
>
>
> (Sorry for the long post!)
>
>
> Unfortunately I can't comment on this 5.0/5.1 issue but if you look at
> page
> http://www.cs.unc.edu/~parente/tech/tr02.shtml
> you'll find the pyTTS system. I've used it and everything works.
>
> The funny thing is that the page has a link named "Microsoft SAPI 5.1
> redistributable" which links to
> http://www.cs.unc.edu/Research/assist/packages/SAPI5SpeechInstaller.msi
> ie. a SAPI 5 installer. So I'm starting to wonder if it matters at all
> whether the speech kit is a version 5 or 5.1.
>
> Anyway: pyTTS works with Python 2.4 as advertized in the accompanying
> examples. I've used it to resolve the following dilemma: how to guarantee
> that I'm aware of new mail appearing on my ISP.
>
> I had an unfortunate experience where a guy I was working with sent me (to
> my home) mail that I didn't expect to receive just at the moment and to
> which I would have liked to react immediately. Why I didn't notice the
> mail coming: I was outside my house pumping more air to my wife's bicycle
> tires! The mail notification was shown and erased and one more icon among
> the more than dozen icons on my Windows System Tray didn't account for
> much.
>
> So I figured out that a voice to remind me would be nice. I have a low
> rate inbox, usually only a maximum of hald a dozen messages per day so I
> wouldn't have to listen the voice all day long. So the voice keeps
> repeating that I have new mail at my ISP until I download the mail and
> otherwise keeps quiet. So here is my program and a skeleton of the INI
> file it uses. The program is not finished (I have a few ideas still) but
> it runs all day long on my computer keeping me happy.
>
> ==
> New Email Notifier.py
> ==
> #!/usr/bin/python
>
> '''
> License: MIT License. See License.txt. If that file is not attached,
> the license is http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php,
> where
> = 2006 and = Jussi Salmela, Turku, Finland
> '''
>
> # This program checks for new email at ISP and notifies if new email is
> found
>
> import win32serviceutil
> import win32service
> import win32event
> import pyTTS, sys, os, poplib, logging, time
> import ConfigParser,pywintypes
>
> print '\nThis is the New Mail Notifier window\n'
> notifierDirectory = r'C:\Python\OMAT___PROJEKTIT\New Email Notifier
> Service'
> logging.basicConfig(level=logging.DEBUG,
> format='%(asctime)s %(levelname)-8s %(message)s',
> filename=notifierDirectory+r'\error.log')
> logging.info('=')
> logging.info('New Email Notifier Service started')
> config = ConfigParser.ConfigParser()
> config.readfp(open(notifierDirectory+r'\New Email Notifier.INI'))
> POP3Server = config.get('POP3','server')
> POP3Account = config.get('POP3','account')
> POP3Password = config.get('POP3','password')
> totalMessagesFormat = config.get('messages','total_message')
> newMessagesFormat = config.get('messages','new_message')
> wakeupMessageFormat = config.get('messages','wakeup_message')
>
> tts = pyTTS.Create()
> #set the speech volume percentage (0-100%)
> tts.Volume = 100
> #explicitly set a voice
> tts.SetVoiceByName(u'MSMary')
>
> uidDict = {}
> # We wait to be stopped and check for new email every maxTimeToWait
> seconds
> maxTimeToWait = 1 # First check after 1 second
> while True:
> time.sleep(maxTimeToWait)
> maxTimeToWait = 60 # Rest of the checks after 60 second
> try:
> # Conne
help: code formatter?
Hi all, as a newbie I have problems with formatting code of downloaded programs, because IDLE's reformatting capabilities are limited . Incorrect indentation, mixing of TAB with BLANKs or eol are often very nasty to correct. Is there a simple code formatter that first removes all indentations and then refomats correctly? Please help! Thank you, siggi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: help: code formatter?
Bjoern wrote: > Why don't you just write one? :) Very funny! Just learning Python :( Regards, siggi > siggi wrote: > >> as a newbie I have problems with formatting code of downloaded >> programs, because IDLE's reformatting capabilities are limited . >> Incorrect indentation, mixing of TAB with BLANKs or eol are often >> very nasty to correct. >> Is there a simple code formatter that first removes all >> indentations and then refomats correctly? > > Why don't you just write one? :) > > Seriously: Try. > > BTW: Guessing to what amount of space TABs must be converted in > mixed source can be non-trivial. > > Regards, > > > Björn > > -- > BOFH excuse #289: > > Interference between the keyboard and the chair. > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: help: code formatter?
Chuck wrote: > http://lacusveris.com/PythonTidy/PythonTidy.python Wow, what a giant of a program! Trying to find out how this works. Thank you, siggi "Chuck Rhode" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > siggi wrote this on Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 03:33:21PM +0100. My reply is > below. > >> Is there a simple code formatter that first removes all indentations >> and then refomats correctly? > > Why, yes, there is: > > http://lacusveris.com/PythonTidy/PythonTidy.python > > -- > .. Chuck Rhode, Sheboygan, WI, USA > .. 1979 Honda Goldwing GL1000 (Geraldine) > .. Weather: http://LacusVeris.com/WX > .. 26° - Wind W 17 mph > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: help: code formatter?
Thomas wrote: > Tools\scripts\reindent.py in your Python distribution. Thank you Thomas! What a bucket full of toolsin \tools! I didn't know that. siggi "Thomas Heller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > siggi schrieb: >> Hi all, >> >> as a newbie I have problems with formatting code of downloaded programs, >> because IDLE's reformatting capabilities are limited . Incorrect >> indentation, mixing of TAB with BLANKs or eol are often very nasty to >> correct. >> Is there a simple code formatter that first removes all indentations and >> then refomats correctly? >> >> Please help! > > > Tools\scripts\reindent.py in your Python distribution. > > Thomas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: code formatter?
>tabnanny? not quite! "Hendrik van Rooyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "siggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Is there a simple code formatter that first removes all indentations and >> then refomats correctly? > > tabnanny ? > > - Hendrik > > > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
how to clean sys.path
Hi all, when I do >>>sys.path in IDLE (winXP), i get a horrendously long list of paths, paths I may have used during a lot of trials and errors. How can I clean up sys.path? I mean, trim it of unnecessary paths? So far, I know only the command >>>sys.path.append(r'c:etc...'), but how to delete or insert at the beginning of the list, I know not. Thanks, siggi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: how to clean sys.path
Thank you Laszlo! Take care, siggi "Laszlo Nagy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> So far, I know only the command >>>sys.path.append(r'c:etc...'), but >> how to delete or insert at the beginning of the list, I know not. >> > You can delete a slice. For example, > > del sys.path[2:5] > > More about slicing: http://docs.python.org/ref/slicings.html > sys.path is a regular list. List methods: > http://docs.python.org/tut/node7.html > > Best, > > Laszlo > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: how to clean sys.path
"Tim Roberts" wrote: >> >>when I do >>>sys.path in IDLE (winXP), i get a horrendously long list of >>paths, paths I may have used during a lot of trials and errors. How can I >>clean up sys.path? I mean, trim it of unnecessary paths? > > What do mean by "used during a lot of trials and errors"? sys.path is > recreated from scratch every time Python starts. It doesn't accumulate > over time, other than from new packages that you install. > -- > Tim Roberts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. Sorry Tim, my statement was not correct, due to my inexperience with Python. And sorry, too, for my somewhat lengthy reply: After having had inspected my current sys.path... ['C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\My Python files', 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\Lib\\idlelib', 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\python25.zip', 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\DLLs', 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\lib', 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\lib\\plat-win', 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\lib\\lib-tk', 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25', 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\lib\\site-packages', 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\lib\\site-packages\\PIL', 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\lib\\site-packages\\win32', 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\lib\\site-packages\\win32\\lib', 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\lib\\site-packages\\Pythonwin', 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\lib\\site-packages\\wx-2.8-msw-ansi'] or in plain DOS: C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\My Python files C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\Lib\idlelib C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\python25.zip C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\DLLs C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib\plat-win C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib\lib-tk C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25 C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages\PIL C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32 C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32\lib C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages\Pythonwin C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages\wx-2.8-msw-ansi ...it just looked horrible to me at first sight! If I interpret your explanation correctly, all these paths are necessary, and not relics of previous installations and deinstallations. What puzzles me, though, is, that e.g., when I run the wxPython application "AnalogClock.py" with IDLE or in the command line , this works only in the directory "...\My Python files\wxDemos\" . This directory contains all files and folders from the original "\wx-2.8-msw-ansi\demos\"). When I copy AnalogClock.py to ...\My Python Files\ , nothing happens after running it with IDLE or in the command line. Appending 'C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\My Python files\wxDemos ' to the sys.path does not help either. Thinking that I am clever, I changed my sys.path with sclicing and concatenation such that my sys.path starts with 'C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\My Python files', 'C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\My Python files\wxDemos'. Now \wxDemos\ is being searched very early. ... no way! After running AnalogClock.py again, this error message appears: -- Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Documents and Settings\My Documents\My Python files\wxAnalogClock.py", line 14, in import wx ImportError: No module named wx. -- Very strange! Because all this wx stuff IS IN the directory 'C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\My Python files\wxDemos'. And AnalogClock.py does work when residing in that directory. Can you help me again? Thanks, siggi P.S. On another PC where the python program is in c:\programs\python25\, same as above! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
pygame and python 2.5
Hi all, when I rtry to install pygame (pygame-1.7.1release.win32-py2.4.exe, the most ciurrent version I found) it requires Python 2.4! Will I really have to uninstall my Python 2.5 and install the old Python 2.4 in order to use pygame? Thanks, Siggi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: how to clean sys.path
"Tim Roberts" wrote: >wxDemos contains the demos. The "wx" module lives in >site-packages\wx-2.8-msw-ansi. Did you leave that in? Yes! Even on this computer I am writing now with - where the whole Python programs stuff is in a programs folder, such as C:\Programs\Python25\Lib\site-packages\wx-2.8-msw-ansi - it is the same problem! > "siggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>or in plain DOS: >> >>C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\My Python files >>C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\Lib\idlelib >>C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\python25.zip >>C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\DLLs >>C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib >>C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib\plat-win >>C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib\lib-tk >>C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25 >>C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages >>C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages\PIL >>C:\Documents and Settings\User\My >>Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32 >>C:\Documents and Settings\User\My >>Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32\lib >>C:\Documents and Settings\User\My >>Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages\Pythonwin >>C:\Documents and Settings\User\My >>Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages\wx-2.8-msw-ansi >> >>...it just looked horrible to me at first sight! > > It looks horrible to me, too. That's why I install applications like that > in "\Apps" instead of a document off of Documents and setings. This looks > much better: > > C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\My Python files > C:\Apps\Python25\Lib\idlelib > C:\Apps\Python25\python25.zip > C:\Apps\Python25\DLLs > C:\Apps\Python25\lib > C:\Apps\Python25\lib\plat-win > C:\Apps\Python25\lib\lib-tk > C:\Apps\Python25 > C:\Apps\Python25\lib\site-packages > C:\Apps\Python25\lib\site-packages\PIL > C:\Apps\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32 > C:\Apps\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32\lib > C:\Apps\Python25\lib\site-packages\Pythonwin > C:\Apps\Python25\lib\site-packages\wx-2.8-msw-ansi > > Searching these doesn't really take very long. Remember that it doesn't > have to read all the files -- it only has to read the directories. > >>'C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\My Python files', >>'C:\Documents >>and Settings\User\My Documents\My Python files\wxDemos'. Now \wxDemos\ is >>being searched very early. >> >>... no way! After running AnalogClock.py again, this error message >>appears: >> >>-- >>Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "C:\Documents and Settings\My Documents\My Python >>files\wxAnalogClock.py", line 14, in >>import wx >>ImportError: No module named wx. >>-- >> >>Very strange! Because all this wx stuff IS IN the directory 'C:\Documents >>and Settings\User\My Documents\My Python files\wxDemos'. And >>AnalogClock.py >>does work when residing in that directory. > > wxDemos contains the demos. The "wx" module lives in > site-packages\wx-2.8-msw-ansi. Did you leave that in? > -- > Tim Roberts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
python and MOV or MPEG
Hi all, does Python support MPEG or MOV videoclips? I couldn't find anything about it online. Thank you, Siggi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: pygame and python 2.5
Thanks, I'll try that! Siggi "Laurent Pointal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > siggi a écrit : >> Hi all, >> >> when I rtry to install pygame (pygame-1.7.1release.win32-py2.4.exe, the >> most >> ciurrent version I found) it requires Python 2.4! Will I really have to >> uninstall my Python 2.5 and install the old Python 2.4 in order to use >> pygame? > > Note: You can have both versions installed, just be sure to use the > right one when using pygame (until there is a 2.5 compatible version). > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Problem with findinf wx modules solved
I included the "...\wxDemos" path in PYTHONPATH. Everthing fine now! "siggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Tim Roberts" wrote: >>> >>>when I do >>>sys.path in IDLE (winXP), i get a horrendously long list of >>>paths, paths I may have used during a lot of trials and errors. How can I >>>clean up sys.path? I mean, trim it of unnecessary paths? >> >> What do mean by "used during a lot of trials and errors"? sys.path is >> recreated from scratch every time Python starts. It doesn't accumulate >> over time, other than from new packages that you install. >> -- >> Tim Roberts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. > > > Sorry Tim, my statement was not correct, due to my inexperience with > Python. > And sorry, too, for my somewhat lengthy reply: > After having had inspected my current sys.path... > > ['C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\My Python files', > 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\Lib\\idlelib', > 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\python25.zip', > 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\DLLs', > 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\lib', > 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\lib\\plat-win', > 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\lib\\lib-tk', > 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25', 'C:\\Documents > and Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\lib\\site-packages', > 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My > Documents\\Python25\\lib\\site-packages\\PIL', 'C:\\Documents and > Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\lib\\site-packages\\win32', > 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My > Documents\\Python25\\lib\\site-packages\\win32\\lib', 'C:\\Documents and > Settings\\User\\My Documents\\Python25\\lib\\site-packages\\Pythonwin', > 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\My > Documents\\Python25\\lib\\site-packages\\wx-2.8-msw-ansi'] > > or in plain DOS: > > C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\My Python files > C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\Lib\idlelib > C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\python25.zip > C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\DLLs > C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib > C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib\plat-win > C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib\lib-tk > C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25 > C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages > C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages\PIL > C:\Documents and Settings\User\My > Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32 > C:\Documents and Settings\User\My > Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32\lib > C:\Documents and Settings\User\My > Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages\Pythonwin > C:\Documents and Settings\User\My > Documents\Python25\lib\site-packages\wx-2.8-msw-ansi > > ...it just looked horrible to me at first sight! > > If I interpret your explanation correctly, all these paths are necessary, > and not relics of previous installations and deinstallations. > > What puzzles me, though, is, that e.g., when I run the wxPython > application > "AnalogClock.py" with IDLE or in the command line , this works only in the > directory "...\My Python files\wxDemos\" . This directory contains all > files > and folders from the original "\wx-2.8-msw-ansi\demos\"). > > When I copy AnalogClock.py to ...\My Python Files\ , nothing happens > after > running it with IDLE or in the command line. > Appending 'C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\My Python > files\wxDemos ' to the sys.path does not help either. > > Thinking that I am clever, I changed my sys.path with sclicing and > concatenation such that my sys.path starts with > > 'C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\My Python files', > 'C:\Documents > and Settings\User\My Documents\My Python files\wxDemos'. Now \wxDemos\ is > being searched very early. > > ... no way! After running AnalogClock.py again, this error message > appears: > > -- > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "C:\Documents and Settings\My Documents\My Python > files\wxAnalogClock.py", line 14, in >import wx > ImportError: No module named wx. > -- > > Very strange! Because all this wx stuff IS IN the directory 'C:\Documents > and Settings\User\My Documents\My Python files\wxDemos'. And > AnalogClock.py > does work when residing in that directory. > > Can you help me again? > > Thanks, > > siggi > > P.S. On another PC where the python program is in c:\programs\python25\, > same as above! > > > > > > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python and MOV or MPEG
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > siggi wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> does Python support MPEG or MOV videoclips? I couldn't find anything >> about it online. > > Weak in googling today? Must have been a rough weekend. > > There are several options, including pymedia and pygame. > > Diez Thanks, Diez. I forgot to mention that I am learning Python with python 2.5 on WinXP. And both pymedia and pygame require somewhat older versions of python, 1.3 and 2.4, respectively. And the updated binaries are still in the offing. I was naive enough to think MPEG could be done using modules already existing. siggi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python and MOV or MPEG
"Bjoern Schliessmann" wrote: > 1.3? I've found both for 2.4, and in one site's forum some guy > offers windows binaries for 2.5. The links, please! Thank you, siggi "Bjoern Schliessmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > siggi wrote: > >> Thanks, Diez. I forgot to mention that I am learning Python with >> python 2.5 on WinXP. And both pymedia and pygame require somewhat >> older versions of python, 1.3 and 2.4, respectively. > > 1.3? I've found both for 2.4, and in one site's forum some guy > offers windows binaries for 2.5. > > Regards, > > > Björn > > -- > BOFH excuse #303: > > fractal radiation jamming the backbone > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Code reformater?
"Vincent Delporte" wrote: > Hello > > When I copy/paste Python code from the web, every so often, > the TABs are wrong, which means that the code won't work and I have to > manually reformat the code. > > Is there a code reformater that can parse the code to make it right? > > Thanks. Maybe my thread "help: code formatter, 08/01/2007 helps a little? Here are some of the answers: * Why don't you just write one? :) Seriously: Try. * Tools\scripts\reindent.py in your Python distribution. * Why, yes, there is: http://lacusveris.com/PythonTidy/PythonTidy.python * tabnanny ? siggi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Win GUI application: avoiding DOS console
Hi all, how do I avoid the DOS console show-up when starting a WinXP GUI application with mouseclick on the respective Python file? I had this with my previous Python installation; it is very simple, something with a "-i" somewhere in the open command of the MS Windows data types "PY" and "PYW". But after a new Python installation, this was lost, and I cannot find the instruction what to do. Please help! Thanks, siggi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Win GUI application: avoiding DOS console
Thanks, but I don't mean that, I am looking for the method keeping *.py. "Bruno Desthuilliers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Siggi a écrit : >> Hi all, >> >> how do I avoid the DOS console show-up when starting a WinXP GUI >> application with mouseclick on the respective Python file? > > rename yourfile.py to yourfile.pyw -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Win GUI application: avoiding DOS console
"Jarek Zgoda" wrote: > Siggi napisa³(a): > >> how do I avoid the DOS console show-up when starting a WinXP GUI >> application >> with mouseclick on the respective Python file? >> >> I had this with my previous Python installation; it is very simple, >> something with a "-i" somewhere in the open command of the MS Windows >> data >> types "PY" and "PYW". But after a new Python installation, this was lost, >> and I cannot find the instruction what to do. > > Run it using pythonw.exe instead of python.exe (check in file types > properties window). > > -- > Jarek Zgoda > http://jpa.berlios.de/ Thanks! siggi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
how to unistall a Python package?
Hi all, installing a package with 'setup.py' is easy. But how do I uninstall the package, once I want to get rid of it again? Thanks, siggi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Thank you, Martin, Wang and Colin
Thanks for your answers, Martin, Wang and Colin! siggi "siggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi all, > > installing a package with 'setup.py' is easy. But how do I uninstall the > package, once I want to get rid of it again? > > Thanks, > > siggi > > > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
pygame and python 2.5
@Ben Sizer Hi Ben, in January I received your message re Pygame and Python 2.5: >pygame and python 2.5 >Ben Sizer kylotan at gmail.com >Fri Jan 12 11:01:00 CET 2007 >---- > >siggi wrote: > >> when I rtry to install pygame (pygame-1.7.1release.win32-py2.4.exe, the >> most >> ciurrent version I found) it requires Python 2.4! Will I really have to >> uninstall my Python 2.5 and install the old Python 2.4 in order to use >> pygame? > >For now, yes. This is a long-standing problem with Python really, >requiring extensions to always be recompiled for newer versions. I >usually have to wait about 6 months to a year after any new release >before I can actually install it, due to the extension lag. > >-- >Ben Sizer As a Python (and programming ) newbie allow me a - certainly naive - question: What is this time consuming part of recompiling an extension, such as Pygame, from source code to Windows? Is it a matter of spare time to do the job? Or do you have to wait for some Windows modules that are necessary for compiling? I am just asking for sake of "scientific" interest; building, compiling from source code is a mystery to me poor Windows user ;-) Thank you, siggi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: pygame and python 2.5: switch to linux?
"Ben Sizer" wrote: [snip] > Hopefully in the future, some of those convoluted steps will be fixed, > but that requires someone putting in the effort to do so. As is often > the case with Python, and indeed many open source projects, the people > who are knowledgeable enough to do such things usually don't need to > do them, as their setup already works just fine. > > -- > Ben Sizer > Thank you, and all those putting in their comments to my thread. As a python newbie, I conclude now that I will be better off to drop Windows and install Linux on my next PC, to be able to reap the full benefits of Python. Thanks, siggi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
