Re: Time for : comp.lang.python.newbies ??

2004-12-07 Thread Ron Phillips



Speaking for the newbies (or that segment of them who aren't asking you to 
do their homework/job/googling for them):
 
The trouble is, we don't know whether we can't find information(X) 
because:
"X" is not the term "knowbies" use for the concept,
or because: 
information(X) is rare due to the concept being so awful 
that a knowbie would avoid it altogether,
or because: 
information(X) is rare due to being too obvious to document,
or because: 
information(X) is non-existent because "X" comprises some 
legitmate terms, used in a way that makes no sense, with a question mark at the 
end
or because:
X is a genuinely new question and information(X) would advance the 
body of knowledge for all of us.
 

In other words, we don't know what we don't know. If we did, we'd 
know whether our question should be sent to the newbies list or the knowbies 
list. 
 
Maybe just ask us to post *everything* to the .tutor list and let 
the question bubble up to this list if it doesn't get answered there? Or 
ask us to post to the .tutor list until we've responded to someone else's 
post a few times (proven ourselves competent to judge our own 
competence)?
 
Ron
 
>>> James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/7/2004 
12:52:08 PM  Maybe a time for a new discussion group 
along that suggested> by the Subject line ?I would hesitate 
to change too much about this list. I spend about 1 hr. per day (probably 
too much) perusing the technical explanations, musings, and rants--and 
hoping to learn enough to reply with an answer sometimes.As far as lists 
go, this is my favorite, and I've subscribed to lists in a variety of 
fields. I'm afraid that scaring off newbies would remove some of the charm 
of this list.-- James Stroud, Ph.D.UCLA-DOE Institute for 
Genomics and Proteomics611 Charles E. Young Dr. S.MBI 205, UCLA 
951570Los Angeles CA 90095-1570http://www.jamesstroud.com/ 

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PIL and format conversions -- Noobie.

2004-12-14 Thread Ron Phillips



I have a monster jpg (128 mb) that comprises a handful of colors 
(20 or so, max). It should never have been compressed with jpeg 
compression, as I understand it. It should have been a png or gif, since 
they are made to handle blocks of a few colors.
 
I used PIL to convert it to png and to gif, and it got even bigger (6 - 8 
x) -- am I using PIL wrong, or is PIL the wrong tool? If so, how 
should I use PIL so it best compresses the outfile? Or, what tool should I 
use?
 
Ron 
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