Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In comp.os.linux.misc Jeroen Wenting > wrote: >> Without Microsoft 90% of us would never have seen a computer more powerful >> than a ZX-81 and 90% of the rest of us would never have used only dumb >> mainframe terminals. > > Uh - when microsoft produced dos 1.0, or whatever it was, I was sitting > at my Sun 360 workstation (with 4M of RAM, later upgraded to 8M), > running SunOS 3.8 or thereabouts. Peter, if you are serious, and not just pulling our legs, your memory is failing. MS-DOS 1.0 came out in August 1981; SunOS 3.0 in February 1986. Sun Microsystems was incorporated (with four employees) in February 1982. There never was a SunOS 3.8. (SunOS 3.5 was succeeded by 4.0.) And I'm not sure what you mean by "Sun 360"--a Sun 3/60, maybe? -- John WingateMathematics is the art which teaches [EMAIL PROTECTED]one how not to make calculations. --Oscar Chisini -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In comp.os.linux.misc John Wingate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> In comp.os.linux.misc Jeroen Wenting >>> wrote: >>>> Without Microsoft 90% of us would never have seen a computer more powerful >>>> than a ZX-81 and 90% of the rest of us would never have used only dumb >>>> mainframe terminals. >>> >>> Uh - when microsoft produced dos 1.0, or whatever it was, I was sitting >>> at my Sun 360 workstation (with 4M of RAM, later upgraded to 8M), >>> running SunOS 3.8 or thereabouts. > >> Peter, if you are serious, and not just pulling our legs, your memory is >> failing. > > Well, it might be a bit off. I am talking about 1986. > >> MS-DOS 1.0 came out in August 1981; SunOS 3.0 in February 1986. > > Seems about right. > > So what version of msdos was around at that time? Obviously I didn't > use it! In 1986? That would be version 3. I have MS-DOS 3.10 (Victor/Sirius version corresponding to 3.1 for x86) dated 1986. >> Sun Microsystems was incorporated (with four employees) in February 1982. >> There never was a SunOS 3.8. (SunOS 3.5 was succeeded by 4.0.) And I'm > It seems to me that I was using 3.x. Maybe it was 3.1? I seem to > remember an earlier major ... was there a 2.8 or 2.9? Dunno. The first version I used was 3.4, in 1987. -- John WingateMathematics is the art which teaches [EMAIL PROTECTED]one how not to make calculations. --Oscar Chisini -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ
Richard Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here in comp.os.linux.misc, > John Wingate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake unto us, saying: > >>Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> It seems to me that I was using 3.x. Maybe it was 3.1? I seem to >>> remember an earlier major ... was there a 2.8 or 2.9? >> >>Dunno. The first version I used was 3.4, in 1987. > > MS-DOS 3.3 was the most popular DOS release back in 1987/1988. I don't > recall there ever being a 3.4 release, though. You snipped the bits that provide the context showing that here Peter and I were talking about versions of SunOS, not MS-DOS. I too don't recall an MS-DOS 3.4. The Victor/Sirius version I mentioned was definitely 3.10 (three point ten)--the version byte was hex 030A. Perhaps the gap in sequencing was introduced to separate the versions for IBM-compatible machines from the versions for non-IBM-compatible machines. -- John WingateMathematics is the art which teaches [EMAIL PROTECTED]one how not to make calculations. --Oscar Chisini -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ
Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That would be a good guess, except that Microsoft's predatory and illegal > behaviour began long before OS/2 was even planned. It began in the mid > 1970s, with MS DOS. Nitpick: MS-DOS first appeared in 1981. -- John WingateMathematics is the art which teaches [EMAIL PROTECTED]one how not to make calculations. --Oscar Chisini -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
