Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

[David Steuber]

Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > If that's the best example of what macros can be used for, frankly I'm
> > unimpressed.
> 
> We're shocked.

Don't anyone tell him about LOOP.

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Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

[David Steuber]

"Wolfram Fenske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Paul Rubin  writes:
> 
> > "Wolfram Fenske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> Yes, I wrote about it in another post.  It was introduced in Python
> >> 2.5. And if it hadn't been I'd still have to write code like this.
> >
> > You could do something with decorators that's not too bad.  You'd end
> > up writing:
> >
> >@withConnection
> >def some_func():
> >   do_whatever_stuff ()
> 
> Yes, now I can.  But I had to wait until Python 2.4 to be able to
> that.  What I like so much about Lisp macros is that they allow me to
> make these changes myself.

Besides, who wants to write production code in a language that keeps
changing?  It's enough work just keeping up with new libraries.

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Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

[David Steuber]

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> How am I being silly? Do you not believe that people write case blocks
> with fifty tests? Okay, how about twenty? Ten? Eight?

You should check out generic functions in CLOS.  Rather than writing a
ridiculously long case block, you can use EQL specialized functions.
It's a great way to do dispatch.

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Re: A critic of Guido's blog on Python's lambda

[David Steuber]

"Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In this post, i'd like to deconstruct one of Guido's recent blog about
> lambda in Python.

Why couldn't you keep this to comp.lang.python where it would almost
be relevant?  Before I pulled down the headers, I thought maybe
something interesting was posted to comp.lang.lisp.

Followups set.

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Re: Tabs versus Spaces in Source Code

[David Steuber]

Spaces work better.  Hitting the TAB key in my Emacs will auto-indent
the current line.  Only spaces will be used for fill.  The worst thing
you can do is mix the two regardless of how you feel about tab vs
space.

The next step in evil is to give tab actual significance like in
make.

Xah Lee is getting better at trolling.  He might fill up Google's
storage.

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Re: Software Needs Less Idiots

[David Steuber]

"PofN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Xah Lee wrote:
> > Software needs philosophers.
> 
> No, software neds less idiots. So please take your medication and
> change profession.

Perhaps fewer would do.

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Re: John Bokma harassment

[David Steuber]

I'm loath to crosspost this but I don't know which (if any) news group
Xah actually reads.  I also don't want to make just a private response
to Xah's email to a public post.  Anyway, the TOS of dreamhost.com is
here:

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IANAL, but it looks like you can have your account canceled, Xah.
Although to tell the truth, even though I find your crossposting
excessive and your rants uninteresting I don't think it is frequent
enough to bitch about.  I do hope that no refund policy doesn't apply
when they terminate your account.

You would probably stand a good chance of keeping your account if you
stop crossposting so much.  Dreamhosting has defined internet
etiquette for you.  Stick within those bounds and you can defend
yourself against people who complain.

Good luck

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