Re: [Python-Dev] Python-Dev Digest, Vol 108, Issue 7
thanks for the reply hastings ive been working on a loopback interface its done On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:00 AM, wrote: > Send Python-Dev mailing list submissions to > python-dev@python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > python-dev-requ...@python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > python-dev-ow...@python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Python-Dev digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: GitHub mirror (Was: Bitbucket mirror?) (mar...@v.loewis.de) >2. Bloody FAQ (Was: [Python-ideas] itertools.chunks(iterable, > size, fill=None)) (anatoly techtonik) >3. Re: Bloody FAQ (Was: [Python-ideas] > itertools.chunks(iterable, size, fill=None)) (Mark Lawrence) >4. Re: Bloody FAQ (Was: [Python-ideas] > itertools.chunks(iterable, size, fill=None)) (Stefan Behnel) >5. Re: Bloody FAQ (Was: [Python-ideas] > itertools.chunks(iterable, size, fill=None)) (Paul Boddie) >6. EuroPython 2012 Language Summit is Canceled. (Larry Hastings) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:27:02 +0200 > From: mar...@v.loewis.de > To: python-dev@python.org > Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] GitHub mirror (Was: Bitbucket mirror?) > Message-ID: > <20120705202702.horde.yh-rbqgzi1vp9dx2h7nj...@webmail.df.eu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes > > >> You won't get any changes in to CPython by creating pull requests. We > >> use http://bugs.python.org/ for that, sorry. > > > > Question -- is there a reason to abide by this rule for docs? That is, > if we > > could get a sympathetic core dev to look at pull requests for docs as > part of > > a streamlined process, would it cause problems? > > How do you communicate a "pull request"? On bitbucket, there is a > "pull request" > UI resulting in a tracker item being generated (and an email being sent), > but > hg.python.org doesn't have a notion of pull requests. Of course, you could > use any communication means (email, telephone call, carrier pigeon) to > request > a pull from a "sympathetic core dev". > > > (What I'm really asking is whether or the bugs.python.org process is > > considered critical for potentially minor doc changes and additions.) > > The sympathetic core dev is mostly free to bypass any submission process > initially; commits that bypass established procedures will likely be > questioned > only after the fact. > > In the specific case, I'd be worried to verify that the submitter has > provided > a contributor form. That's easy to do in the bug tracker, but difficult to > do > in an offline pull request. Of course, for a really minor doc change > (e.g. typo > fixes), no contrib form is necessary. > > Regards, > Martin > > > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 22:41:29 +0300 > From: anatoly techtonik > To: Stefan Behnel > Cc: python-id...@python.org, python-dev@python.org > Subject: [Python-Dev] Bloody FAQ (Was: [Python-ideas] > itertools.chunks(iterable, size, fill=None)) > Message-ID: > 6gnqn+o_tb3lmnimhys9zkymwr1g...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote: > > anatoly techtonik, 05.07.2012 15:36: > >> On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > >>> From Raymond's first message on http://bugs.python.org/issue6021 , add > >>> grouper: > >>> > >>> "This has been rejected before. > >> > >> I quite often see such arguments and I can't stand to repeat that > >> these are not arguments. It is good to know, but when people use that > >> as a reason to close tickets - that's just disgusting. > > > > The *real* problem is that people keep bringing up topics (and even spell > > them out in the bug tracker) without searching for existing discussions > > and/or tickets first. That's why those who do such a search (or who know > > what they are talking about anyway) close these tickets with the remark > > "this has been rejected before", instead of repeating an entire heap of > > arguments all over again to feed a discussion that would only lead to the > > same result as it did before, often several times before. > > Make the bloody FAQ and summarize this stuff? Why waste each others > time? If people don't enjoy repeating themselves over and over - there > is a bloody wiki. What should happen to people to start extracting > gems of knowledge from piles of dusty sheets called list "archives" > for others to admire. > > No, it is easier to say "it was already discussed many times", "why > don't you Google yourself", "so far you're only complaining", etc. If > people can't find anything - why everybody thinks they are ignorant
Re: [Python-Dev] Python-Dev Digest, Vol 108, Issue 7
spoke too early on its done sorry On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Ryan Paullin wrote: > thanks for the reply hastings ive been working on a loopback interface its > done > > > On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:00 AM, wrote: > >> Send Python-Dev mailing list submissions to >> python-dev@python.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> python-dev-requ...@python.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> python-dev-ow...@python.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Python-Dev digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Re: GitHub mirror (Was: Bitbucket mirror?) (mar...@v.loewis.de) >>2. Bloody FAQ (Was: [Python-ideas] itertools.chunks(iterable, >> size, fill=None)) (anatoly techtonik) >>3. Re: Bloody FAQ (Was: [Python-ideas] >> itertools.chunks(iterable, size, fill=None)) (Mark Lawrence) >>4. Re: Bloody FAQ (Was: [Python-ideas] >> itertools.chunks(iterable, size, fill=None)) (Stefan Behnel) >>5. Re: Bloody FAQ (Was: [Python-ideas] >> itertools.chunks(iterable, size, fill=None)) (Paul Boddie) >>6. EuroPython 2012 Language Summit is Canceled. (Larry Hastings) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:27:02 +0200 >> From: mar...@v.loewis.de >> To: python-dev@python.org >> Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] GitHub mirror (Was: Bitbucket mirror?) >> Message-ID: >> <20120705202702.horde.yh-rbqgzi1vp9dx2h7nj...@webmail.df.eu> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes >> >> >> You won't get any changes in to CPython by creating pull requests. We >> >> use http://bugs.python.org/ for that, sorry. >> > >> > Question -- is there a reason to abide by this rule for docs? That is, >> if we >> > could get a sympathetic core dev to look at pull requests for docs as >> part of >> > a streamlined process, would it cause problems? >> >> How do you communicate a "pull request"? On bitbucket, there is a >> "pull request" >> UI resulting in a tracker item being generated (and an email being sent), >> but >> hg.python.org doesn't have a notion of pull requests. Of course, you >> could >> use any communication means (email, telephone call, carrier pigeon) to >> request >> a pull from a "sympathetic core dev". >> >> > (What I'm really asking is whether or the bugs.python.org process is >> > considered critical for potentially minor doc changes and additions.) >> >> The sympathetic core dev is mostly free to bypass any submission process >> initially; commits that bypass established procedures will likely be >> questioned >> only after the fact. >> >> In the specific case, I'd be worried to verify that the submitter has >> provided >> a contributor form. That's easy to do in the bug tracker, but difficult >> to do >> in an offline pull request. Of course, for a really minor doc change >> (e.g. typo >> fixes), no contrib form is necessary. >> >> Regards, >> Martin >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 22:41:29 +0300 >> From: anatoly techtonik >> To: Stefan Behnel >> Cc: python-id...@python.org, python-dev@python.org >> Subject: [Python-Dev] Bloody FAQ (Was: [Python-ideas] >> itertools.chunks(iterable, size, fill=None)) >> Message-ID: >> > 6gnqn+o_tb3lmnimhys9zkymwr1g...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Stefan Behnel >> wrote: >> > anatoly techtonik, 05.07.2012 15:36: >> >> On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: >> >>> From Raymond's first message on http://bugs.python.org/issue6021 , >> add >> >>> grouper: >> >>> >> >>> "This has been rejected before. >> >> >> >> I quite often see such arguments and I can't stand to repeat that >> >> these are not arguments. It is good to know, but when people use that >> >> as a reason to cl
Re: [Python-Dev] Python-Dev Digest, Vol 108, Issue 14
looks like theres no forgiveness except for dj yoda On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:00 AM, wrote: > Send Python-Dev mailing list submissions to > python-dev@python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > python-dev-requ...@python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > python-dev-ow...@python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Python-Dev digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Fwd: How to recruit open-source contributors ? The Story of > Data (Steve Holden) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:54:33 -0500 > From: Steve Holden > To: Arc Riley > Cc: python-dev@python.org > Subject: [Python-Dev] Fwd: How to recruit open-source contributors ? > The Story of Data > Message-ID: <44e4e015-4c35-4265-a4ef-51b2d3a64...@holdenweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Interesting article about Gentoo's approach to developer recruitment from > GSoC: > > > http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/2012/07/10/how-to-recruit-open-source-contributors/ > > S > -- > Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com, Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ > Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ > Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ > Next: DjangoCon US Sep 6-8, Washington DC http://djangocon.us/ > > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/attachments/20120711/0a6e9085/attachment-0001.html > > > > -- > > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > > > End of Python-Dev Digest, Vol 108, Issue 14 > *** > ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Python-Dev Digest, Vol 108, Issue 14
<- its just my gmail face On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Ryan Paullin wrote: > looks like theres no forgiveness except for dj yoda > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:00 AM, wrote: > >> Send Python-Dev mailing list submissions to >> python-dev@python.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> python-dev-requ...@python.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> python-dev-ow...@python.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Python-Dev digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Fwd: How to recruit open-source contributors ? The Story of >> Data (Steve Holden) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:54:33 -0500 >> From: Steve Holden >> To: Arc Riley >> Cc: python-dev@python.org >> Subject: [Python-Dev] Fwd: How to recruit open-source contributors ? >> The Story of Data >> Message-ID: <44e4e015-4c35-4265-a4ef-51b2d3a64...@holdenweb.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Interesting article about Gentoo's approach to developer recruitment from >> GSoC: >> >> >> http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/2012/07/10/how-to-recruit-open-source-contributors/ >> >> S >> -- >> Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com, Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ >> Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ >> Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ >> Next: DjangoCon US Sep 6-8, Washington DC http://djangocon.us/ >> >> >> >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/attachments/20120711/0a6e9085/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> -- >> >> ___ >> Python-Dev mailing list >> Python-Dev@python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev >> >> >> End of Python-Dev Digest, Vol 108, Issue 14 >> *** >> > > ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Python-Dev Digest, Vol 108, Issue 14
$ python -m timeit -s 'import test' 'list(test.grouper(2,"abcdef"))' 10 loops, best of 3: 5.34 usec per loop $ python -m timeit -s 'import test' 'test.grouper(2,"abcdef")' 10 loops, best of 3: 2.19 usec per loop $ python -m timeit -s 'import test' 'list(test.chunks(2,"abcdef"))' 10 loops, best of 3: 2.85 usec per loop $ python -m timeit -s 'import test' 'test.chunks(2,"abcdef")' 100 loops, best of 3: 0.685 usec per loop some woman wrote this On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:31 AM, Ryan Paullin wrote: > <- its just my gmail face > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Ryan Paullin wrote: > >> looks like theres no forgiveness except for dj yoda >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:00 AM, wrote: >> >>> Send Python-Dev mailing list submissions to >>> python-dev@python.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> python-dev-requ...@python.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> python-dev-ow...@python.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Python-Dev digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>>1. Fwd: How to recruit open-source contributors ? The Story of >>> Data (Steve Holden) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:54:33 -0500 >>> From: Steve Holden >>> To: Arc Riley >>> Cc: python-dev@python.org >>> Subject: [Python-Dev] Fwd: How to recruit open-source contributors ? >>> The Story of Data >>> Message-ID: <44e4e015-4c35-4265-a4ef-51b2d3a64...@holdenweb.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Interesting article about Gentoo's approach to developer recruitment >>> from GSoC: >>> >>> >>> http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/2012/07/10/how-to-recruit-open-source-contributors/ >>> >>> S >>> -- >>> Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com, Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ >>> Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ >>> Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ >>> Next: DjangoCon US Sep 6-8, Washington DC http://djangocon.us/ >>> >>> >>> >>> -- next part -- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/attachments/20120711/0a6e9085/attachment-0001.html >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ___ >>> Python-Dev mailing list >>> Python-Dev@python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev >>> >>> >>> End of Python-Dev Digest, Vol 108, Issue 14 >>> *** >>> >> >> > ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
