[Python-Dev] audience-instructors for Teach Me Python Bugfixing needed
Hey, everybody... I'm Catherine, a database administrator who makes up
excuses to write Python instead.
I'm not actually here as a core developer, but as somebody who hopes to
become a developer and recruit some more, which brings me to my question:
Who lives close enough to Ohio to make it to PyOhio this summer? I want to
use PyOhio to create new Python devs (including myself), but I need some
existing ones to seed the process.
I need a few veterans (3?) who can commit to come to PyOhio and take part as
audience/instructors in a "Teach Me [Python core / standard library]
Bugfixing" session. (See
http://catherinedevlin.blogspot.com/2010/04/bugfixing-at-pyohio.html.) The
PyOhio Call for Proposals is up May 10 so I'd better find you quick!
I'm pretty much ignorant enough to lead a Teach Me session. In a Teach Me
session, the person at the projector *doesn't* know the material. Instead,
she asks the audience questions ("How do I find a bug to work on?"), and
they talk her through it. It's based on Teach Me Twisted, a mind-blowing
session Steve Holden led at PyCon 2008 (
http://catherinedevlin.blogspot.com/2008/03/teach-me-twisted.html). I think
it's a fantastic way to teach, but it depends on some veterans being in the
audience. There are folks in the greater Python community eager to get hold
of a video of such a session... if we do this well, it could become an
important tool in keeping the quality of core Python code high.
And all I need from you, my audience-instructors, is a promise to show up
(no preparation necessary). Can you make it? Can you pass the appeal on to
others you know of?
Thanks! Hope to see you in July!
--
- Catherine
http://catherinedevlin.blogspot.com/
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[Python-Dev] Become a Python contributor at PyOhio
Thanks to David Murray, we're going ahead with plans to make a full-fledged introduction to core development at PyOhio. We've just started circulating this announcement to drum up interest, so if there are people or groups who you'd like to recruit to the effort, please forward it to them. By the way, I haven't made a peep on this list yet - or even read it - because I'm intentionally preserving my ignorance so that I can be the leader-learner for the Teach Me session. (It's the first time wilful ignorance has actually been a virtue). Anyway, the announcement: Become a Python contributor at PyOhio = Working in Python is awesome. Are you ready to work on Python? The quality of Python and the Standard Library depend on volunteers who fix bugs and make improvements to the codebase. If you're interested in joining these volunteers, good for you! Information on core development is right on Python's homepage. However, if you'd like an in-person boost to get you started, come to PyOhio this July 31 - August 3. One of our many events is "Teach Me Python Bugfixing", an introduction to working on Python that's guaranteed newbie-friendly (because a newbie is running it). Next come two evenings and two full days of Python core sprinting, so you can put your new skills to use with plenty of helpers around. It's classroom learning and real-life practice at one free event! See you there! Core development: http://www.python.org/dev/ PyOhio: http://www.pyohio.org/ Teach Me Python Bugfixing: http://www.pyohio.org/2010/Talks#A.234_Teach_Me_Python_Bugfixing PyOhio sprints: http://www.pyohio.org/Sprints2010 -- - Catherine http://catherinedevlin.blogspot.com/ *** PyOhio 2010 * July 31 - Aug 1 * Columbus, OH * pyohio.org *** ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Become a Python contributor at PyOhio
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Dan Buch wrote: > Does this mean I should repurpose my talk slot, currently entitled > "Intro to Core Involvement"? :) > > Ach! I forgot! Hopefully that's the dumbest mistake I'll make in this year's PyOhio preparations. Fortunately the PyCon blog can be edited... wish emails could be. No, as I wrote to the talk committee, "There is some overlap between this talk and Dan Buch's submission, though his seems to have a heavier focus on doc and triage work. If they're both selected, I'll work with Dan to see that the talks dovetail well together. I would really *love* to see Dan's talk, this talk, and sprints (weekend sprints AND sprints on the following weekdays) fuse into a great big contribu-palooza that will put PyOhio on the map! Well, we're already on the map." I actually think it'll be ideal if we can get - Your talk midday on Saturday, for a clasically planned introduction on multiple aspects of core involvement - Shortly thereafter, my "teach me" talk, which will be specifically about bugfixing and will focus on points of newbie confusion by means of my own all-natural fumbling. Hopefully some people from your talk's audience will take their brand-new knowledge to participate in the "teach me" session as both teachers and learners... nothing solidifies learning like teaching does. (I think I need to *not* watch your talk until afterward on video, incidentally, to keep my ignorance pure. I might end up as the most ignorant person in the room, which would be perfect.) - That evening, the sprinty goodness begins. -- - Catherine http://catherinedevlin.blogspot.com/ *** PyOhio 2010 * July 31 - Aug 1 * Columbus, OH * pyohio.org *** ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Become a Python contributor at PyOhio
So let's try this again: Become a Python contributor at PyOhio = Working in Python is awesome. Are you ready to work on Python? The quality of Python and the Standard Library depend on volunteers who fix bugs and make improvements to the codebase. If you're interested in joining these volunteers, good for you! Information on core development is right on Python's homepage. However, if you'd like an in-person boost to get you started, come to PyOhio this July 31 - August 3. Two talks will get you up to speed on Python contribution: "Intro to Core Involvement" and "Teach Me Python Bugfixing". Next come two evenings and two full days of Python core sprinting, so you can put your new skills to use with plenty of helpers around. It's classroom learning and real-life practice at one free event! See you there! Core development: http://www.python.org/dev/ PyOhio: http://www.pyohio.org/ Intro to Core Development: http://www.pyohio.org/2010/Talks#A.2320_Intro_to_Core_Involvement Teach Me Python Bugfixing: http://www.pyohio.org/2010/Talks#A.234_Teach_Me_Python_Bugfixing PyOhio sprints: http://www.pyohio.org/Sprints2010 -- - Catherine http://catherinedevlin.blogspot.com/ *** PyOhio 2010 * July 31 - Aug 1 * Columbus, OH * pyohio.org *** ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] audience-instructors for Teach Me Python Bugfixing needed
The PyOhio contribu-palooza starts this Saturday! http://www.pyohio.org/Contribute With two talks and a two-day-four-night sprint, I'm very hopeful that it will recruit and train some new core workers. I'm preparing my portion, the teach-the-newbie (me) -to-fix-a-core-bug session, and I want to make sure that I'm prepared in two ways: 1. Any bulky download/compilation steps are complete I pulled the Py3 trunk with svn co http://svn.python.org/projects/python/branches/py3k python, did the compilation steps, and verified that I can fire up the latest build. I also note that http://www.python.org/dev/ doesn't say anything about hg yet. Is there someplace else I should look for hg-centered docs? Should we just teach it using svn if that's better documented? Then again, if hg is the way of the future... I also built the docs (``cd Doc; make html``) Are there other things that I need to do to configure my machine beforehand? Things that are too long/boring for the audience to sit through while I do it live? 2. Have a good set of questions to ask. Here's what I'm planning so far: - While running ``make test`` on the Python trunk, I got an error on "test_os". Is that a problem with my machine's configuration, or with the build? Do I need to report it? Can I ignore it? Now we'll find a bug. - Do I need an account on bugs.python.org? What do I need to do to get one? - How do I find a bug suitable for me to work on? - entry-level - in Python not C - corresponding to my strong points / interests Now we'll "find" a fake bug that David has planted for us. (David, have you planted it yet?) - Can/should I make my edits directly in the trunk that I just pulled down? - Now we'll make the fix... maybe this should involve using a debugging IDE or pdb? - How do I verify that my fix worked? That it didn't break anything else? That it's written with proper style? That it doesn't generally suck? - How do I send my fix back up to the trunk? - How do I record my work in the bug tracker? (If time permits) now let's try writing a test for a gap in test coverage (not necessarily on the code we just worked on - this doesn't have to be fake) DON'T ANSWER THESE! I need to carefully guard my sincere ignorance through Saturday! (Actually, I already have a pretty good idea about some of them, but I don't want my ignorance to become any less sincere than it already is.) But, if you're David or Dan or anybody else who's going to be there, you may want to ponder how you'll guide me through it. But what I want to know from all of you is: what other questions should be on my list? I was going to address this only to David, my primary audience/instructor volunteer, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to get input from the rest of you. Thank you all! -- - Catherine http://catherinedevlin.blogspot.com/ *** PyOhio 2010 * July 31 - Aug 1 * Columbus, OH * pyohio.org *** ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
